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A Video of October 7 Massacre I Will Not Forget

A Video of October 7 Massacre I Will Not Forget

The October 7 Massacre was 20 weeks ago today. There was one piece of video I had not seen, that I saw for the first time today. It’s not the most gruesome, but it’s particularly disturbing. I don’t know if I’ll ever forget it.
Posted by Saturday, February 24, 2024 at 09:00pm
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We’ve covered the Hamas and Palestinian “civilian” butchery on October 7 in exhaustive detail, including some extremely gory images and video. Some of it we saved on our own for fear social media companies would take them down, which happened in the early days after the massacre, but doesn’t seem to be happening anymore.

I knew I had not seen everything. I’ve not seen the 45-minute film the Israeli government has shown to thousands of journalists, diplomats, and others at organized gatherings. That film is not public, but from descriptions, many of the atrocities documented were described in a way that made me think I’d already seen that piece of video.

Today is 20 weeks since October 7. Many people are posting video and images of that day (see lower in the post for some examples).

But there was one piece of video I had not seen, that I saw for the first time. It’s not the most gruesome, but it’s particularly disturbing. I don’t know if I’ll ever forget it.

It’s a video of Gaza “civilians” dragging the body of an almost completely naked and apparently dead Israeli woman through the streets on a motorcycle.

They bragged about it in Gaza, and treated the bodies of dead woman as trophies:

This still image appears to be a dead body of a man on the back of another motorcycle (version dated Oct. 7 here):

Israeli “reportedly” is getting ready to strike a deal with Hamas for a 6-week ceasefire in exchange for 35-40 of the 120 hostages still held by Hamas, other terror groups, and Palestinian “civilians.” If that is the deal, it’s a victory for Hamas. They survive unlike the girl being dragged on that motorcycle, and they continue to hold almost 80 hostages. I hope these reports are wrong, but Israeli is under immense combined pressure from the Biden administration and the families of the hostages who are organizing protests reminiscent of those that paralyzed Israeli society just before October 7.

I’m with Kurt.

Additional images posted today:

From our prior reporting:

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guyjones | February 24, 2024 at 9:14 pm

The west’s failure/refusal to acknowledge the Islamic supremacism, totalitarianism, fascism and hatred towards Jews and other non-Muslims that underpinned and motivated the 10/7 attacks (like innumerable attacks before that date) represents a continuation of the same indefensible naivete, stupdity, dhimmitude and fecklessness that we saw, post-9/11.

Not one western leader has stood up to say what needs to be said — that the Fakestinians are 110% to blame for their own, self-inflicted miseries, poverty and ideological devotion to waging jihad; that they’ve had innumerable opportunities and ample time and foreign aid money to create a peaceful and prosperous state, and, they have squandered those opportunities on waging perpetual war; and, that Israeli Jews are the indigenous people of the area, their forebears having lived in the middle east for millennia before the ideology of “Submission’s” founding, and, it’s am outrageously offensive slander and a despicable bit of dishonest historical revisionism/erasure to insult Jews as alleged “settlers,” “colonizers” and occupiers in their ancient homeland.

    guyjones in reply to guyjones. | February 24, 2024 at 9:19 pm

    To elaborate — the Fakestinians, specifically, and, Muslims at-large, more broadly, are never held to account for their behavior and their ideological predilections, by western dhimmis and Dhimmi-crats.

    A complete lack of personal responsibility and agency over their choices and actions is ascribed to Fakestinians/Muslims, such that their terrorism, belligerence towards and hatred of Jews and other non-Muslims is always alleged to be the rational and understandable response of alleged Muslim “victims,” towards alleged grievances and wrongs committed against them, by Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc.

    Which is precisely the same justification for terrorism that is proffered by ISIS, al-Qaeda and every other Muslim terrorist outfit around the globe — “Our terrorism is a defense of Islam and Muslims against Zionist and Crusader wrongs.”

gonzotx | February 24, 2024 at 9:40 pm

Horrible videos

We will see this in America

It has begun

    Fuzzy Slippers in reply to gonzotx. | February 24, 2024 at 9:56 pm

    “We will see this in America.”

    This is my fear, too.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to gonzotx. | February 25, 2024 at 7:40 am

    And, it will be the time when we find out just how brave those with “From My Cold Dead Hands”, “We Don’t Call 911”, and “Never Mind the Dog…” stickers and signs really are.

    We will also find out just whose side our police are on, but, given their non-response to the “mostly peaceful” stuff of 2020, I think I already know.

    I believe it will be the Average Joe who retaliates with force first.

      DaveGinOly in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | February 25, 2024 at 7:42 pm

      Police, fire, and EMT personnel are not “first responders.” First responders are those people at the scene when an incident occurs. They are responsible for their own safety and the safety of those in their charge. Everyone else arrives late.

      Strap up, people. Always carry, everywhere, including most, if not all, “gun free zones” (I do). Think about how you’d react. Watch people. Always look for cover (not just concealment). If you’re not a combat vet, condition yourself to be ready to kill. Imagine scenarios, think seriously about killing. Learn Jeff Cooper’s “color code” and rehearse it (and learn what it is not: https://www.breachbangclear.com/cooper-color-code/).

      Violence does not come naturally to “civilized” people. One must think evil thoughts to defeat evil people.

      ss396 in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | February 26, 2024 at 12:38 pm

      We already know that the police are on the side of their pensions. I don’t blame them for that, because that is the very human thing to do: it’s tough to walk away from comfort and assurance when there is nothing yet really to walk towards.

      But it does greatly color my expectations concerning them. They’ll switch to supporting the uprisings when it’s clear that the butter will be on that side of the bread.

ChrisPeters | February 24, 2024 at 9:42 pm

The utter brutality puts me at a loss for words.

If I had had any sympathy remaining for the so-called Palestinians after all the years of their terrorism, it has now been completely eradicated.

I can understand Israel’s retrained efforts in this war, given its desire to save the hostages that Hamas is holding, but a part of me wishes they had acted with the ferocity Hamas deserves, and bombed them completely out of existence.

4fun | February 24, 2024 at 10:10 pm

I lay a lot of the blame at barack’s feet. He’s scum and I believe he and his pals have had a lot to do with the palasstinians feeling free to commit this atrocity.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to 4fun. | February 25, 2024 at 7:43 am

    It’s not just him. It is the harumphing and speechifying cowards in various congresses, diets, parliaments, althings, and other legislative bodies who second guess or outright condemn Israel or Jews at every turn.

    Obama is responsible for a lot, but he is far from a solo act in this routine.

BierceAmbrose | February 24, 2024 at 10:34 pm

This “US framework”(*) doesn’t say what the US will do, for example to prevent or respond to bombings, rockets, assassinations, or incursions of hyped-up folks on motorcycles taking people back into Gaza — no doubt for joyrides. Speaking hypothetically, of course.

What good is proclaiming what other people *should* do in a complex situation that isn’t yours? Oh, wait: that is the gig for important people, any more.

Nevermind.

(*) Called a “US framework” in the liked X post. Link reproduced here:
https://twitter.com/BarakRavid/status/1761447322368496091

BierceAmbrose | February 24, 2024 at 10:49 pm

Just realized, neither does this “US framework” talk about how the parties end up for doing this.

— Hamas gets tactical, operational, strategic and propaganda improvements.

— US gets to feel smug at only moral cost — that is no cost at all as no moral standing left any more. Israel gets … what?

— Some number of hostages back, while others known to remain.

Who else is in play here and what do they want? “Relief” and movement in Gaza means fewer Hamas squirt through the border nto Egypt, so they get that. (Israel must not have gotten all the tunnels across the Gaza border with Egypt, yet.)

— “People of Gaza” or “the Palestinians” get… some relief from being caught between two fighting forces (one which tends to colocate with civilians.) That relief remains only if the hostilities remain stopped. before neutralizing Hamas in Gaza. So, presumably this deal means Israel isn’t going to resume…? And Hamas gets to continue operating out of Gaza, without at least having to rebuild?

There’s a lot of moral screeching, and horror reaction around stopping the carnage in Gaza right now. Only try at a plan to keep it stopped that I’ve seen is from Israel.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | February 25, 2024 at 12:31 am

the families of the hostages who are organizing protests reminiscent of those that paralyzed Israeli society just before October 7.

It’s telling that, from October 7th, no one spoke again of the threats from the insane “protesters” to desert their units and not serve reserve duty in the IDF. It was as if that had never happened … And that was all over the idea that Israel would reduce the insane, unbridled powers of its Supreme Court to be more in line with the American Supreme Court (though the Israeli court would still be much more powerful and unaccountable).

Brian | February 25, 2024 at 12:40 am

I saw a video composed of an IDF interrigator’s questions to various Hamas “fighters.”

I found the utter depravity of the answer to the interrigator in this exchange to be something I will nevef forget:

Interrogator question: “Why did you rape the women?”

Hamas butcher’s answer, made with a shrug: “To make them dirty.”

Beasts. Utterly devoid of what we westerners consider compassion.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to Brian. | February 25, 2024 at 11:30 am

    ” Utterly devoid of what we westerners consider compassion.”

    This is why they should not receive any compassion. Look at what they did in Africa, and are now doing in Europe.

    BierceAmbrose in reply to Brian. | February 25, 2024 at 7:26 pm

    “Beasts. Utterly devoid of what we westerners consider compassion.”

    I’d like to see longer interviews. In the short clips they read as having pretty simple thinking and psychology. This is contra interviews with Imams, Islamic scholars, and yes Hamas officials I’ve seen; setting their doctrine aside.

    Weird.

RITaxpayer | February 25, 2024 at 5:55 am

And yet there are many people in my country that back these butchers.

I dont understand the moral compass.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to RITaxpayer. | February 25, 2024 at 7:56 am

    I find myself going back and forth between two trains of thought, RI:

    1) Virtually all of the pro-Hamas are college people, either students or professors. The students want something to protest about and to upturn the norms of society and to shock their parents. The professors arfe just denizens of the faculty lounge, never having held a real job, and don’t associate with the great unwashed.

    The other thought:

    2) The American people really ARE Jew-haters, and 10/7 just tore off the mask.

Skip | February 25, 2024 at 7:03 am

Gaza doesn’t deserve a state, they deserve to be wiped out Biblical style

texansamurai | February 25, 2024 at 12:02 pm

1) Virtually all of the pro-Hamas are college people, either students or professors. The students want something to protest about and to upturn the norms of society and to shock their parents. The professors arfe just denizens of the faculty lounge, never having held a real job, and don’t associate with the great unwashed.

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true for a large portion of the ” protesters “–believe the others are paid (either directly or indirectly) agitators of the “progressive” ranks

regardless, should the unthinkable happen and muslim fascists actually come to / seize power in this country the ” intelligentsia ” and their ” students ” as well as blm/antifa/other groups of that ilk will be among the first to die–they produce nothing, are ” entitled ” and aggravating to maintain and no longer serve any viable purpose to a muslim regime–doubt many of the student/prof ” protesters ” have considered the same

ttucker99 | February 25, 2024 at 2:40 pm

Thing is Israel is winning and the world wants them to negotiate like they are losing. Negotiations should start with unconditional release of all hostages and the planners of 10/7 handed over to be prosecuted, by Israel, for war crimes. Then and only then will they sit down and talk about a cease fire.

LukeHandCool | February 25, 2024 at 2:40 pm

Agree. Not as gruesome as some videos, but disturbing beyond words.

It’s equal parts infuriating and mind boggling that there are many people online and marching in our streets and chanting at our universities that the Israelis either manufactured this or, if not, deserved it as a legitimate form of “resistance.”

These people are so far gone. And so many so-called women’s advocacy groups are forever discredited by their silence over the torture, rape, and murder of Israeli women. It’s astonishing how anti-Semitism causes people and organizations to thoroughly debase themselves.

I hope Israel doesn’t bow to pressure from the laughable “world community” and finishes the job.

DaveGinOly | February 25, 2024 at 8:17 pm

“The very existence of an army is a danger to the state, a danger to democracy, because it is a group of people with power. Twenty thousand armed men are more powerful than 20 million unarmed people. If in a country there are 20 thousand men who can seize power, who wish to seize power, they can rule over 10 million unarmed people, who will be completely helpless”

David Ben-Gurion
From 1949: The First Israelis (Tom Segev)
As quoted from meeting of MAPAI Central Committee with party’s MKs (member of the Knesset), July 22-23, 1949, Labor Party Archive, 11/2/1

With this understanding (the correct view, IMHO), I’m surprised that Ben-Gurion (a very intelligent and capable man) didn’t come to the same conclusion as did our founders – adopt the principle of the people’s right to arms. And in all the time since its founding, it is similarly surprising that the state hasn’t yet fully adopted a general right to arms, and is still limiting the ability of its own citizens to defend themselves against very serious threats.

rochf | February 25, 2024 at 9:26 pm

Filth and animals–they should be wiped from the face of the earth

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