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House Will Vote on ‘Resolution Broadly Condemning Hate’ Without Naming Ilhan Omar

House Will Vote on ‘Resolution Broadly Condemning Hate’ Without Naming Ilhan Omar

I guess the Democrats cannot admit that anti-Semitism is the problem they face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrcaCrkuofg

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer announced the House will vote “on a resolution broadly condemning hate” on Thursday after the recent anti-Semitic remarks from Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN).

Hoyer also said “the resolution would not specifically name Omar.”

I guess “broadly condemning hate” means it won’t exclusively apply to anti-Semitism, even though that’s what has been in the news lately since Omar took office in January.

The House has released the resolution. It says:

Condemning anti-Semitism as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values and aspirations that define the people of the United States and condemning anti-Muslim discrimination and bigotry against minorities as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contrary to the values and aspirations of the United States.

Whereas the first amendment to the Constitution established the United States as a country committed to the principles of tolerance and religious freedom, and the 14th amendment to the Constitution established equal protection of the laws as the heart of justice in the United States;

Whereas adherence to these principles is vital to the progress of the American people and the diverse communities and religious groups of the United States;

It goes on to list how white supremacists “have exploited and continue to exploit bigotry and weaponize hate for political gain.” The Democrats also mentioned the riots in Charlottesville, the murder of nine blacks in South Carolina, and the Tree of Life Synagogue massacre.

The fact is Omar and Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) have caused problems for the Democrats over anti-Semitism. Here are a few examples:

Not any other kind of hate or bigotry. The problem for the Democrats is exclusively anti-Semitism.

The Republicans have quieted down lately over it. Instead, they decided to allow Democrats to “inflict damage on themselves.” From Politico:

But Republicans, who already successfully used procedural tools to rebuke Omar for using anti-Semitic tropes last month, are instead choosing to not respond right now, forcing Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to pick from a difficult set of options.

“I would like to see what the Democrats are going to do,” Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told reporters Wednesday. “We’ve already led on this issue.”

Republicans, who saw years of infighting when they were in the majority, are now relishing watching the other side erupt into chaos and are eager to exploit those intraparty divisions.

“They have disarray in their own conference,” said Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) during a pen and pad. “Ultimately, we’ve been very clear that Speaker Pelosi has the full power and authority to take action on her own. And she should. But she hasn’t.”

I do not blame them.

Earlier this week, Politico reported the House Democrats drafted a resolution to condemn anti-Semitism, but did not name Omar in it.

It sounded like they planned to bring it to a vote on Wednesday, but other reports came out that they wanted to add anti-Muslim language into it.

House Majority Whip James Clyburn came to Omar’s defense. From The Hill (emphasis mine):

Clyburn came to Omar’s defense Wednesday, lamenting that many of the media reports surrounding the recent controversy have omitted mentioning that Omar, who was born in Somalia, had to flee the country to escape violence and spent four years in a Kenyan refugee camp before coming to the United States.

Her experience, Clyburn argued, is much more empirical — and powerful — than that of people who are generations removed from the Holocaust, Japanese internment camps during World War II and the other violent episodes that have marked history.

“I’m serious about that. There are people who tell me, ‘Well, my parents are Holocaust survivors.’ ‘My parents did this.’ It’s more personal with her,” Clyburn said. “I’ve talked to her, and I can tell you she is living through a lot of pain.”

Clyburn said that long talks with former Rep. Norman Mineta (D-Calif.), a Japanese-American who was interned during WWII, gave him a special appreciation for Omar’s experiences. And he rejected the idea that the Democrats’ resolution will single her out for condemnation.

“She won’t be targeted. We’re going to target those people who had her picture on the Twin Towers,” Clyburn said. “This resolution is going to be inclusive; it’s going to be expansive; and I might just try to add something to deal with that billboard that’s up in Pennsylvania this morning calling John Lewis and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus racists.”

Excuse me? So Omar’s experiences in Somalia gives her a pass to to gush out hatred towards another minority group?

Look, Omar isn’t just criticizing Israel. I have no problem when people legitimately criticize Israel and our foreign policy. I don’t even always agree with Israel and everyone knows I don’t like the majority of our foreign policy.

The fact is, Omar uses classic anti-Semitic language.

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And the MSM/DNC axis will use this resolution to claim the Republican Party has an anti-Semitic problem, an Islamophobia problem, an immigrant problem, a race problem, a gender problem, a transphobia problem, blah blah blah….

…a resolution broadly condemning hate…

In the fine print: Does not apply to hatred directed toward deplorable conservative Republican Nazis.

Another meaningless gesture….. the hate and bigotry will continue in the Dem caucus.

A glowing example of our legislator’s ability to stay away from solving a problem. For if they did, they’d have to find a new problem to solve and so on and so on …. For them it is easier to continue to create problems because, well, that is where their future is. Cultural Marxism on display.

I’m not understanding why the Jewish community is not going to general quarters over this. This is REALLY dangerous stuff. We all know where this is headed and how fast the worm turns.

The Democrat party has been taken over by forces that hate Christians and Jews and seek to bring America to its knees. My fear is that too many liberal Jews are so steeped in the joy of browbeating the oh-so inferior Deplorables that they will be unable to react to the threat.

    elle in reply to elle. | March 7, 2019 at 12:23 pm

    To be clear, many non-Jewish liberals are just as guilty of making themselves feel bigger by looking down on a state-sanctioned group of “others”. However, non-Jewish liberals have nothing to lose by this turn of events. It would be foolish to expect their support.

    Why isn’t the Jewish community grasping that the lack of enthusiasm to quell the bashing those wearing MAGA hats will become an issue for those wear yarmulkes.

      Milhouse in reply to elle. | March 7, 2019 at 12:51 pm

      Most of those who cheer on the MAGA-hat-bashers don’t wear yarmulkes, and don’t much care about assaults on those who do.

        elle in reply to Milhouse. | March 7, 2019 at 2:01 pm

        You missed the point. The point is that the same people feeling entitled to bash those wearing MAGA hats are the same people whom, given a green light, will feel entitled to bash yarmulke wearers.

        The Jewish community would be wise to speak up and demand a stop to it as the writing is already on the wall…in letters so big they can be seen from space.

    PersonofInterests in reply to elle. | March 8, 2019 at 2:45 pm

    “First they came for those who wear MAGA Hats, and I did not speak out—
    Because I didn’t wear a MAGA Hat.

    Then they came for those who wear Yarmulkes, and I did not speak out—
    Because I didn’t wear a Yarmulkes.

    Then they came for Whites who wear Christian Jewelry, and I did not speak out—
    Because I didn’t wear Christian Jewelry.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

    What we are seeing has happened before and if we don’t soon crush this Socialist/Communist Juggernaut to replace our Capitalist Republic and the Constitution that our genius Founders provided to create the Greatest Country on Planet Earth, the cold Civil War that is currently being waged, will turn hot once the present day “Fort Sumter” is attacked.

    It seems that is EXACTLY what they are attempting to get started as Engels and Marx proffered: Violent Revolution to gain power and control. Thus, so that accidents like Hugo Chavez, Nick Maduro, Fidel Castro, Vladimir Lenin, Joe Stalin, and Mao Zedong will emerge to create yet another Socialist failure just like all the other Socialist failures before.

IMHO, her “latest” hiccup (if this had been her only hiccup), I don’t find that antisemitic. A number of congress members have dual citizenship with Israel (Pelosi, et al).

I think it is NOT inappropriate to question any person of congress who has dual citizenship with Israel. Which citizenship do they place first? If the US and Israel have a conflict of interest, where do their loyalties truly lie?

However, taken in context with all her other blatantly antisemitic remarks, this definitely falls in the same bucket.

    Milhouse in reply to hrunting. | March 7, 2019 at 12:18 pm

    A number of congress members have dual citizenship with Israel (Pelosi, et al).

    WTF are you talking about? There is not one person in Congress with Israeli citizenship. And Pelosi?! Even if there were Israelis in Congress, why on earth would Pelosi be one of them? What connection, however remote, does she have to Israel? Seriously, what drugs are you on, or what universe do you inhabit? Or are you just here to troll us?

      hrunting in reply to Milhouse. | March 7, 2019 at 12:25 pm
        Milhouse in reply to hrunting. | March 7, 2019 at 12:50 pm

        You’re not helping yourself. Citing some piece of nazi propaganda does not help you. Feinstein is no more an Israeli than Pelosi is. To the best of my knowledge there are no Israeli citizens in the Congress, though there’s no reason there shouldn’t be, if the voters choose to put them there.

          hrunting in reply to Milhouse. | March 7, 2019 at 1:08 pm

          Thanks for encouraging me to do more research. This is how people create these lists of dual-citizenship congressmen. “Oh, X is Jewish. They are citizen of Israel” (even if they never claimed that citizenship).

          http://web.law.columbia.edu/open-university-project/curricula/citizenshipnationalityisrael-palestine

          Law of Return – The Law of Return of 1950, the Nationality Law of 1952, and the Entry into Israel Law of 1952 establish the right of all Jews and their family members worldwide to immigrate, or return, to Israel and to immediately become Israeli citizens.

          A close reading of these laws reveals that the 1950 Law of Return treats every Jew worldwide as having “returned,” including those in Israel/Palestine who were born in Israel and never left.

          It is interesting to note that Israel’s “Law of Return” confers Israeli citizenship automatically, without the immigrant having to apply for it, attend any ceremony, or swear any oath of allegiance.

          http://www.richw.org/dualcit/faq.html

          hrunting in reply to Milhouse. | March 7, 2019 at 1:13 pm

          FYI, I down-voted myself finding out the source of the dual-citizenship claims.

          Milhouse in reply to Milhouse. | March 7, 2019 at 2:11 pm

          It is interesting to note that Israel’s “Law of Return” confers Israeli citizenship automatically, without the immigrant having to apply for it.

          That is only true by a very technical definition. A person must apply for an immigrant visa and express the intention of establishing residence in Israel, and go through the whole process of obtaining it. It’s understood that immigration normally includes citizenship, so if the immigrant doesn’t want this they have until 90 days after they arrive to say they don’t want it.

        Colonel Travis in reply to hrunting. | March 7, 2019 at 1:16 pm

        Your link says “89% of our Senators and Congress hold dual citizenship citizenship with Israel”

        Forget the illiteracy of “Senators and Congress” – but 89%? Did you even add up the names? Not only does it come nowhere close to 89%, it comes nowhere close to 89/535. There are names on that page of people who aren’t even Jewish. Does your BS detector not even go off?

        I don’t even have to google to see if this is garbage to know it’s garbage.

    Milhouse in reply to hrunting. | March 7, 2019 at 12:24 pm

    The only congressman I know of who was until recently a dual citizen is Ted Cruz, but he isn’t one any more.

So is Representative She Who Shall Not Be Named behind this bill and willing to vote for it?

How brave they are, they’re going to condemn hatred.

Know what I hate? Child abuse/porn and human trafficking. Thank God for the headway Trump has made on these fronts.

Righteous hatred is a good thing.

Connivin Caniff | March 7, 2019 at 12:20 pm

If they are including not hating broccoli, they are going way too far.

Tell me again why Rep. Steve King(R) was removed from his seat on committee?

That comment is sardonic.

This Omar Jew hater and the house leadership which enables her is why I say
‘danger zone morality’
is in affect – until its not.

    What he said was horrible, and if he meant it then he deserved to lose his committee seats regardless of how the Dems treat their bigots. But if they were an innocent slip of the tongue, as I understand he claims them to have been, then he was badly mistreated. The only way to determine whether his claim is plausible is from a recording or transcript of his words, in their entirety; but I have not been able to find one.

Dems can’t do the right thing so they resort to a dishwater resolution? Pull the plug and let the stuff drain.

I guess “broadly condemning hate” means it won’t exclusively apply to anti-Semitism

Much worse than that; it will perpetuate the myth that “Islamophobia” is a problem equal to or even greater than antisemitism.

I don’t deny that anti-Moslem bigotry exists; we see it even here in this forum, and not all anti-Moslem crimes are hoaxes. Just think back to the Sikh who was murdered right after the Sep-2001 attacks, because some “anerican patriot” (his own self-description) was too dumb to tell the difference between a Moslem and a Sikh, which is not at all difficult. That was a genuine anti-Moslem hate crime; the murderer thought he was killing a Moslem. So it exists and it can be deadly, but it’s nothing like the problem of antisemitism. It’s like comparing ebola to cancer. It’s like demanding equal billing at Holocaust memorials for the ~15K gay men the nazis murdered together with the 6M+ Jews.

    I won’t argue with your legal interpretation, but I am going to put forward the idea that there is no such thing as a “hate crime”. I am aware that the law makes the distinction, but to a non-lawyer like myself the notion is pure insanity. Is a woman who is angry at her cheating husband and snuffs him guilty of a “hate crime”? Is a motorist who guns down another motorist in a fit of road rage also guilty of a “hate crime”? If not, why not?

    To a non-lawyer like myself “hate crime” laws smell suspiciously like a perk or benefit for politically-favored groups like highway appropriations or funding for colleges. We have laws, police and courts because the alternative – each person deciding for themselves what the law is, who is guilt and what punishment they receive – is a recipe for disaster. A crime is supposed to be an offense against ALL of society, not just some favored group. “Hate crime” laws tell me that some groups are less worthy than others of legal protection. I don’t see how a society can survive long when a situation that that exists.

    In short, “hate crime” laws are an injustice cooked up by politicians who think some animals are more equal than others.

    RedEchos in reply to Milhouse. | March 7, 2019 at 5:32 pm

    You’re correct. We have had a few incidents and people want to conflate the numbers to make them seem equal

    I wonder how many ‘hate crimes’, if all could be solved, would be real? My guess is probably about 1/3 are not actual hate crimes.

    “You hate me because I’m !”
    “No, I hate you because you’re a jerk!”

    Milhouse wrote: “Much worse than that; it will perpetuate the myth that “Islamophobia” is a problem equal to or even greater than antisemitism.”

    /This.

    Arminius in reply to Milhouse. | March 8, 2019 at 1:07 am

    I agree. Somehow Omar’s Jew hatred will be twisted into Muslims being the real victims. It’s similar to how people deface the statue commemorating Cristofero Columbo in Columbus circle in Manhattan. One of the reasons that statue was erected in 1892 is because in 1891 the largest mass lynching in US history was perpetrated in New Orleans. Guess what; it wasn’t against blacks although northern Italians still call us southerners Africani.

    https://allthatsinteresting.com/new-orleans-lynchings

    And I believe the KKK felt the same way about us southern Italians. And BTW Milhouse they felt the same way about Jews as Omar does. I wonder if Omar would accuse me of dual loyalties because I still love Italian food and culture. I in general dislike Italy, though. I inherit my dislike for Italy. My family left for a reason. My uncle Tony, who unfortunately for us departed this world too soon, served in the USN in the Med during WWII. And he got a few liberty ports in Italy after they switched sids. Although defeated, they were still contemptuous of Americans. In Italian we are collectively Americano. But in 1944 Italians would elide the words “merde de can” (the o is dropped from the word cano in southern dialects) and basically Americanos merde de cans or in simple terms dog sh*t. And my uncle Tony would just lay into them.

    YOu did not f*** with my uncle Tony. Or for that matter, my also departed father the sainted USCG senior chief who served in the ironically named Pacific. No Italian who tangled with my uncle Tony dared repeat the performance let alone fight with him.

    I take a certain amount of pride in my heritage. But I’m most proud of being an unhyphenated American. I can’t hold a grudge forever because some Americans were and still are racist a&&maggots.

    I was transferring between duty stations and decided to take a northern route for a change of pace (normally I’d take a southern route so I could stop in New Orleans and take revenge on the locals for lynching my paisani by drinking up all the liquor and messing with the girls). I was pulling up over a hill in Wyoming and a sign for a truck stop gradually came into view. First it said “gas.” Then a bit more of the sign came into view. “Guns.” And then “Beer.” I actually go a little misty. This is my country and these, these are my people. So I spent the night in Cheyenne.

    But I do have to question Omar’s loyalties. Muslims are commanded in the Quran to hate the enemies of Allah. Paramount among these enemies are (Surah 9) are the “people of the book” i.e. Jews and Christians. Because they rejected Muhammad because they recognized him for the false prophet he clearly was. So her Jooo hatred is baked into the cake, if she is a semi-serious Muslima. She also needs to hate Christians. The fatiha prayer (the first chapter in the Quran) is also known as the cursing prayer. So multiple times a day Muslims curse Jews (those who have earned Allah’s wrath) and Christians (those who have been led astray) during their five daily prayers.

    But I don’t hate Muslims. I hate and despise Islam. But that’s an ideology like Naziism or communism. Islam isn’t a person. One of the main reasons I hate the ideology of Islam is what it does to its adherents. There are women in Iran facing close to twenty years in prison for taking off their chadors or hijabs in protest against the government. The charge? Incitement to prostitution. This isn’t just a Shia doctrine. The former senior Sunni cleric in Australia, Taj El-Din Hilaly, likened uncovered women to uncovered meat. If you set out a tray of uncovered meat in your yard you can’t blame the stray cats that will eat it. He said this in a Ramadan sermon after members of a Muslim rape gang had been sentenced to what he thought were unduly harsh prison terms for raping the uncovered meat. Really, it was the uncovered meat’s fault.

    Islam doesn’t just victimize women. Muslims like to point to the fact that Islam is the world’s fastest growing religion as somehow proof that Islam must be true. Which is absurd. Islam is of course the fastest growing religion, but it is growing precisely because it is evil. If you hold a knife to someone’s throat and tell them to submit or die you will get submission. If that person doesn’t adhere to some religion that Islam deigns to consider to have divine revelation (i.e. Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians primarily) submission means conversion to Islam. And if anyone attempts to leave their Islamic religion they must be killed (Sahih al Bukhari 9.57). Of course it’s going to grow. Women are fields to be plowed (Surah 2.223) and are making babies by their early teens. They have no other options in Sharia compliant nations.

    But Islam also enslaves men. That’s why so many of them blow themselves up. Martydom is their only guarantee of salvation. Muslims are told that when they are born two angels sit on their shoulders. The one on the right records their good deeds, the on on their left their bad deeds. But who knows how much a deed weighs? Or how many of one or another they’ve done? Then there’s the fact that Allah is the khayru al-makireen, the greatest of all deceivers. Abu Bakr, the first of the “rightly guided” Caliphs after Muhammad died said that even if he had set one foot into the Islamic sensual paradise he would still feer Allah’s makr or deception. Not until he had both feet in Jenna would he be able to be sure that he wasn’t going to be cast into h3ll. Which is luridly described in the Quran and the traditions (both Sunni and Shia) as a place where your brains will boil, your skin will be burnt off and then Allah will issue a new skin just so he can burn it off again, you’ll drink molten lead, etc., etc.

    Islam is an empire of fear. Here’s where I do the obligatory “Most Muslims” spiel. Most Muslims aren’t terrorists. But if they take their religion at all seriously they like Abu Bakr are worried that despite their best efforts they’ll be cast into h3ll. In fact, Allah in the Quran vows to fill h3ll with men and jinn (genies). Unlike the God of the bible Allah does not want to see all people be saved. Allah delights in the fact he will send people to h3ll. There is one and only one guarantee that anyone can avoid eternal torture.

    Surah 9 verse 111

    “Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah ? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.”

    Yeah, you can read the Torah and the Gospels until your brains fall out and you won’t find this “binding promise” anywhere in them. But devout Muslims believe it. It’s why you hear about supposedly secular Muslims committing acts of terrorism. They have (for lack of a better term) a “come to Jesus” moment when they realize that they’ve been committing bad deeds all their lives. Smoking pot, drinking alcohol, sleeping with girs, or worse sleeping with other boys, clubbing, what have you. And they doubt that if they turn their lives around and strictly adhere to Islam they’ll ever rack up enough good deeds to outweigh all the bad deeds they’ve committed. But they know they are promised heaven if they kill and are killed in jihad.

    This is why I pray for their souls. Don’t get me wrong. I was in on some their killings. If I’m recalled to a duty status I’ll do it again. But I don’t hate Muslims. I feel sorry for them. I admit to hating Islam, though, because of what it does to people.

Omar, who was born in Somalia, had to flee the country to escape violence and spent four years in a Kenyan refugee camp before coming to the United States.

Her experience, Clyburn argued, is much more empirical — and powerful — than that of people who are generations removed from the Holocaust, Japanese internment camps during World War II and the other violent episodes that have marked history.

“I’m serious about that. There are people who tell me, ‘Well, my parents are Holocaust survivors.’ ‘My parents did this.’ It’s more personal with her,”

I’m sorry, what does this even mean? What is Clyburn actually saying? What kind of bigotry is she supposed to have suffered? Not “Islamophobia”; the violence her parents fled was Moslem. If anything her experience should have made her an “Islamophobe”; but how could it possibly have made her an antisemite?

    RedEchos in reply to Milhouse. | March 7, 2019 at 5:37 pm

    Is he saying that Jews funded the warlords that tore Somalia apart and therefore Omar’s Jew-hatred is understandable?

    Maybe they’re both just vile idiots…

    Arminius in reply to Milhouse. | March 8, 2019 at 1:34 am

    “I’m sorry, what does this even mean?”

    That the whole idea for reparations for slavery and Jim Crow is off the table. If we’re generations removed from the Holocaust and Japanese internment camps, how many more generations are we removed from slavery. I don’t know about you Milhouse, but was no night rider or grand Kleagle. Clyburn has just put a large hole amidships in the entire rationale (such as it is) for any reparations whatsoever.

    I plan on quoting from this frequently.

    But I also don’t understand what a Kenyan refugee camp has to do with Omar’s rabid Joooo hatred.

Clearly, the Legal Insurrection Foundation is needed now more than ever.

Look, Omar isn’t just criticizing Israel. I have no problem when people legitimately criticize Israel and our foreign policy. I don’t even always agree with Israel and everyone knows I don’t like the majority of our foreign policy.

Criticizing some specific Israeli policy may or may not be legitimate, depending on what it is. But criticizing Israel itself, i.e. its very right to exist and defend itself, is not legitimate, unless one is an anarchist who believes no states should exist, or a pacifist who believes nobody should defend themselves.

    Arminius in reply to Milhouse. | March 8, 2019 at 1:47 am

    The only Israeli policy I criticize is that they are too nice to terrorists. If you need to bomb an apartment building or hospital or UNRWA school in Gaza because Hamas has weaponized those sites, bomb the freaking buildings. Don’t “knock on the roof” or call people to tell them to get out.

    Does this make me an anti-Semite? Kind of, I suppose. After all the Arabs living in Gaza and the West Bank are indistinguishable from Arabs to the east and north of Israel. Arabs are a Semitic people. And I really wish the Israelis would apply themselves and kill enough of them that the others surrender.

      Milhouse in reply to Arminius. | March 8, 2019 at 4:25 pm

      There are many more Israeli policies that deserve criticism. Even after all the economic reforms since the ’80s, Israel is still basically a welfare state. Even with its very high defense burden, its taxes are unconscionably high. Its land use policy has caused a housing crisis to rival any in the Western world. It seriously abridges the freedom of speech and the RKBA. Its schools indoctrinate children in leftist “values”. Its self-selecting judiciary and career DOJ dictate to the elected government and to the IDF what they must do, so elections are of very little consequence.

      There is one bright spot: the new Zehut Party, led by the only libertarian ever to have sat in the Knesset, appears to be clearing the 3.5% threshold for representation, and if its votes are needed to form a government we may see some meaningful reforms.

So it will be up to the Republicans to offer a Motion to Recommit invoking Omar’s antisemitic remarks and condemning her by name. Then watch as dems vote down their own resolution.

How long will it be before the Democrat Organization is classified as a Terrorist Organization?
They want to kill babies, they are Antisemitic, they physically abuse anyone who thinks differently, etc

    Milhouse in reply to texasron. | March 7, 2019 at 2:49 pm

    What they want is irrelevant; the first amendment protects their right to want and to advocate anything, even the return of slavery or another Holocaust. Designated foreign terrorist organizations, to which it’s illegal to give material support, must themselves engage in actual terrorist attacks, and I believe must also be foreign.

      Arminius in reply to Milhouse. | March 8, 2019 at 2:15 am

      The Foreign Terrorist Organization list is maintained by the State Department. There are other terrorist organization lists such as that maintained by DHS.

      https://www.afcea.org/content/?q=Article-homegrown-violent-extremists-top-homeland-threat-list

      You don’t have to be a foreigner to be designated a terrorist or a terrorist organization. The FBI considers the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) and the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) to be domestic eco-terrorist organizations.

      And, he says while modestly buffing his finger nails on his puffed out chest, I was honored by AFCEA (the Armed Forces Communications and Electronics Association) as the top graduate of the Basic Intelligence Officer’s course at the Navy and Marine Corps Intelligence Training Center (NMITC) in Dam Neck VA back in 1990. Sure, it’s not like I graduated from BUD/S or the Army Ranger course. Still, I’m happy with it. I have the plaque around here somewhere. When I got the award I kinda felt like I was following in my father’s footsteps as he is in the Coast Guard (radio) Operator’s Association Hall of Fame.

      Zut Zut.

        Milhouse in reply to Arminius. | March 8, 2019 at 4:33 pm

        The DHS list doesn’t have any legal consequences. It’s not a crime to give material support to ELF, if you can find it. So long as you don’t commit any actual crimes you can identify as ELF, and advocate anything you like in its name, and the government can’t touch you. Whereas giving a dollar to a foreign group designated by the State Dept makes you an automatic criminal, with no right to judicial review of the grounds for the designation. (I have knowingly broken this law by giving cash to someone representing himself as a representative of a designated group. I will not say when or where this happened, there are no witnesses or records, and the person collecting the money didn’t know me from a bar of soap, so I feel safe admitting it here. I do not believe I did anything wrong.)

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

Humphrey's Executor | March 7, 2019 at 9:12 pm

This is a victory for Omar. She got equal billing for the made-up problem of “Islamophobia.” This is a major defeat for decency and common sense.

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