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Five years after Trayvon Martin’s death, myths and lies about case live on

Five years after Trayvon Martin’s death, myths and lies about case live on

The Not Guilty verdict came as no surprise to those of us following the actual evidence.

Today is the 5th Anniversary of the death of Trayvon Martin, who was shot dead by George Zimmerman.

I don’t think any other website has covered the case as extensively as we have. We have hundreds of posts under the tags Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman and George Zimmerman trial. We covered the initial publicity, the pre-trial criminal proceedings, the trial itself, and the post-trial problems George Zimmerman experienced.

Andrew Branca’s live coverage of the trial was epic and widely credited, including by Don West, co-defense counsel for Zimmerman, Unexpected thanks to Legal Insurrection on 2nd Anniversary of Zimmerman Acquittal.

This is Don West, co-counsel for George Zimmerman in the Treyvon Martin shooting.

Today is the second anniversary of George Zimmerman’s acquittal. Because of the hectic pace of the trial, I’ve only recently begun to review much of the coverage of the case; and I want to compliment Legal Insurrection, Professor Jacobson, and especially Andrew Branca for their exceptional coverage of the trial.

The facts of the case were reported fairly and accurately, and the legal analysis was always first rate.

Where so many news outlets and bloggers seemed unconcerned with the actual facts or the law, and were content to combine misinformation with their own misunderstanding, its obvious from the reporting that Legal Insurrection was genuinely interested in the truth and fully understood the legal issues of the case.

Your effort is truly appreciated. Thank you.

From our very first post on March 23, 2012, Zimmerman-Martin questions, we took the position that we needed the facts to roll in before jumping to conclusions:

Let’s allow the facts to come in before we opine on the legal significance of the facts.  Did Zimmerman hunt Martin down, or did the two come into unexpected contact with deadly results?  It could be important.

Given the high political profile the case already has taken, we owe it to the victim and the accused for there to be a professional investigation free from politics.

The media, activists, and Trayvon’s family lawyers took a different approach, developing narratives before the facts were known.

In my third post on the case, on March 24, 2012, I warned that they were setting up a very bad situation if and when those narratives fell apart, What happens when Zimmerman is found “not guilty”?

George Zimmerman has been tried and convicted in the media and public opinion for the shooting of Trayvon Martin, with the case almost uniformly being portrayed as racially motivated, with the wearing of a hoody by a young black male as the symbol.

Violence is in the air….

Even Obama has framed the case in racial terms, saying that if he had a son, he would look like Trayvon, which has thrust the issue into presidential politics as Newt pushed back on Obama’s racial narrative of the case.

Zimmerman, not surprisingly, is in hiding and has not returned to work, where his employer fears for the safety of fellow employees.

A case which should be focused on the guilt or innocence of the accused based on evidence, and finding justice for a victim based on law, has been turned into a racial political play.

The evidence made public so far, however, is not as conclusive as public opinion either as to Zimmerman’s guilt of a criminal offense or racial motivation.  Based on what is known so far, the possibility of a not guilty verdict is very real.

That prediction was prescient.  Sometimes you just have to go with you gut, and the early evidence suggested to me the case would not turn out the way the media and the activists wanted.

There is no possible way I can cover every aspect of the case in this one post, so I’ll focus on just a few aspects of the lies about the case that framed the case and continue to live on in the coverage today of the anniversary.

False Hoodie Narrative

In trying to turn the case into a racial narrative, the initial burst of publicity and activism turned on Trayvon wearing a hoodie.

There were hoodie protests around the nation.

And even at Cornell Law School, where I teach.

Yet early on the evidence demonstrated the falsity of that narrative, as I explained on March 28, 2012, Sourcing narrative “facts” in the Martin case:

2. Hoody.  The Hoody has become the symbol of protests, based on the assertion that Zimmerman found Martin suspicious because he was wearing a hoody.  But the audio tape [link now dead](language warning) in which Zimmerman mentions a hoody is clear that a hoody was mentioned only after Zimmerman had described why Martin was suspicious, and in response to a later question by the 911 operator as to what the suspicious person was wearing.  What is the source of this fact that Zimmerman found the wearing of a hoody suspicious? [current note: I spelled “Hoody wrong,” but got the facts right]

I expanded the discussion on April 1, 2012, Speculative hoodie symbolism

The hoodie has become the symbol of protests regarding the shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman.

From images of former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm wearing a hoodie, to the “million hoodie march,” to Havard law students wearing hoodies with a sign “Do we look suspicious?,” to Congressman Bobby Rush appearing on the House floor in a hoodie, the hoodie has come to symbolize alleged racial profiling by Zimmerman which led to the shooting.

But as relates to the Zimmerman-Martin case, the hoodie at best is speculative symbolism, not based on any known facts connected to the shooting.  While Martin was wearing a hoodie that night, there is nothing other than surmise to suggest that Martin was considered suspicious by Zimmerman for that reason.

In the 911 call (audiotranscript) in which Zimmerman reported a suspicious person, the clothing Trayvon was wearing was not initially mentioned:

Dispatcher: Sanford Police Department. …

Zimmerman: Hey we’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there’s a real suspicious guy, uh, [near] Retreat View Circle, um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he’s up to no good, or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

A hoodie was mentioned but only in response to questioning by the dispatcher as to what the suspicious person was wearing (emphasis mine):

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy is he white, black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

Dispatcher: Did you see what he was wearing?

Zimmerman: Yeah. A dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie, and either jeans or sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now, he was just staring…

Dispatcher: OK, he’s just walking around the area…

Zimmerman: …looking at all the houses.

Dispatcher: OK…

The suggestion that Zimmerman found the wearing of a hoodie suspicious simply is not supported by the 911 call, made at a time Zimmerman could not have known how the evening would end or how the case would gain national attention.

Despite the lack of evidence of the wearing of a hoodie as an actual factor in the case, the hoodie today remains the symbol of the case, as evidenced by these tweets:

False Racial Narrative

First came the racial narrative, that Trayvon was followed and shot because he was black. That was based on multiple falsehoods, most particularly the NBC News doctoring of police audio in which it falsely made it seem as though Zimmerman said he was following Trayvon because Trayvon was black.

But that’s not what happened. Zimmerman only mentioned race when the police operator asked about race.

There also was the claim that Zimmerman used the term “f-ing coons” on the police tape. But that was debunked early on, as I wrote on April 12, 2012, Affidavit of Probable Cause destroys claim Zimmerman used racial epithet:

One of hotest topics of argument has been whether George Zimmerman said “f-ing coons” under his breath on the 911 tape.  The left-blogosphere has used the alleged racial epithet endlessly to paint this as a racially motivated hate crime.

CNN used three different audio experts to analyze the tape, but one of whom found “f-ing coons,” another “f-ing cold,” and another “f-ing punks.”

In the Affidavit of Probable Cause, which just was made available, State of Florida investigators swore under oath that that Zimmerman used the term “f-ing punks”:

An FBI investigation also found no history of racism in Zimmerman’s past.

Feeding the media racial narrative, there were widespread but false claims that neo-Nazis were patrolling the neighborhood where the shooting took place, Sanford (FL) Police deny any indication of neo-Nazis patrolling.

False Stand Your Ground Narrative

As Andrew Branca has explained many times, Florida’s Stand Your Ground law was not invoked in Zimmerman’s defense. SYG also is very misunderstood, it is not a “license to kill” – it only kicks in when all the other elements of lawful use of deadly force is established. SYG only addressed the need to retreat.

It made sense for Zimmerman not to rely on SYG, because Stand Your Ground would only be relevant if Zimmerman had a route of exit, but the shooting took place while Zimmerman was on his back on the grass, his head having been pounded on the pavement and being beaten Mixed Martial Arts style by Trayvon:

O’Mara: OK. And do you stand by that today, that what you saw is was a Ground-and-Pound event?

Good: It looked like that position was a Ground-and-Pound type of position, but I couldn’t tell 100% that there were actually fists hitting faces.

O’Mara: But you did see [reading] “the guy in the top in the black hoodie pretty much just throwing down blows on the guy kind of MMA-style.”

Good: Meaning arm motions going down on the person on the bottom. Correct.

O’Mara: You’re’ not going to tell the jury here today that you saw fists hit flesh or face if you didn’t actually see it, right?

Good: I wouldn’t tell them that anyway, because i didn’t actually see it.

O’Mara: Great, thanks very much , no further questions.

Forensic analysis demonstrated that the trajectory of the single shot fired and burns on Trayvon’s sweatshirt were consistent with Zimmerman being on his back with Trayvon hovering over him at the time of the shot.

Since Zimmerman was pinned to the ground, he didn’t need to invoke SYG because there was no reasonable means of avoidance.

While the jury instructions did contain language similar to the SYG standard, the SYG statutory protection itself was not invoked.

So why is SYG so frequently mentioned when talking of the Zimmerman case? Because it is a convenient excuse for gun control advocates to try to scale back self defense laws.

False Claim That Zimmerman Disobeyed Police Instructions Not To Get Out of the Car

This is perhaps the most frustrating false narrative of the case: That George Zimmerman supposedly was told by the police dispatcher not to leave his car, but did so against police instructions.

This allegation is used to claim that the entire confrontation was Zimmerman’s fault, and had he merely followed police instructions, nothing would have happened.

It is a claim made again on February 14, 2017, in an updated CNN post from 2013 (but republished as updated), Trayvon Martin Shooting Fast Facts (emphasis added):

February 26, 2012 – George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch captain in Sanford, Florida, calls 911 to report “a suspicious person” in the neighborhood. He is instructed not to get out of his SUV or approach the person. Zimmerman disregards the instructions. Moments later, neighbors report hearing gunfire. Zimmerman acknowledges that he shot Martin, claiming it was in self-defense. In a police report, Officer Timothy Smith writes that Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose and back of the head.

I have debunked this claim many times, including in response to a column by Jonathan Capehart at WaPo, in which he dealt forthrightly with many problem narratives, but repeated the police instruction narrative, In busting Zimmerman myths, Jonathan Capehart perpetuates the greatest myth of all:

Zimmerman was not in the car at the time of the comment “we don’t need you to do that.”

Here’s the transcript of the call from Andrew Branca’s post at his blog addressing the call:

Zimmerman:  Shit, he’s running.

Dispatcher:  He’s running?  Which way is he running?

[Sound of car door opening.]

Zimmerman:  [Grunts.]  Down towards the other entrance of the neighborhood.

[Sound of car door closing.]

Dispatcher:  OK, and which entrance is that he’s heading towards.

Zimmerman:  The back entrance. . . .  [mutters] Fucking punks [puddles?].

[Wind/breathing noise.]

Dispatcher:  Are you following him?

Zimmerman:  Yeah.

Dispatcher:  OK, we don’t need you to do that.

Zimmerman:  OK.

On direct examination, the 911 operator acknowledged hearing the car door chime go off right after the “he’s running” statement by Zimmerman (at 3:15):

Here’s the cross-examination of the 911 operator, including his acknowledgement of hearing the door chiming (at 12:30) and that at the time of instruction there was wind noise from having cell phone outside the car (15:30).  The denial that there was an order not to follow appears at 14:00:

(More video and analysis of the police dispatcher’s testimony at trial is here.)

This is important because it defeats a key narrative of the case, that Zimmerman was in his car at the time the police made the suggestion (not the direction) that “we don’t need you to do that.”

Despite the clear evidence, the claim that Zimmerman disregarded instructions became Soap in a sponge: The enduring myth that George Zimmerman was told not to get out of his car:

In this sea of media malpractice, one enduring fabrication lives on despite conclusive trial testimony, the concept that Zimmerman was ordered, instructed, or told not to get out of his car by the 911 operator.

I completely debunked this concept when it was assumed by Jonathan Capehart at WaPo, In busting Zimmerman myths, Jonathan Capehart perpetuates the greatest myth of all.  I emailed Capehart about it, he responded “fair point,” and as of this writing the offending comment about Zimmerman being told not to get out of this car no longer is in Capehart’s column.  Good for him.

But the myth lives on in part because other media is not as responsible….

There is a second and implicit part of the myth, namely that Zimmerman was told not to follow Martin (in addition to being told not to get out of his car)…. If the media refuses to correct the obvious factual inaccuracy that Zimmerman was told not to get out of his car, it seems hopeless to get the media to correct this other part of the myth….

The myth will survive because it is part of the background narrative, an assumption upon which arguments implicitly rest.

Regardless of what they think of the verdict, most Americans will go to their graves believing the myth that “if only George Zimmerman had not gotten out of the car when the police told him not to.”

Bottom Line – The Jury Got It Right

The verdict came as no surprise to those of us following the evidence. It came as a shock to those who bought into the false narratives.

If you really are a glutton for punishment, you watch a 1:40 hour presentation by me and Andrew Branca at Cornell Law School about the case, Did The Zimmerman Jury Get It Right? The short answer is, YES.

I gave a shorter explanation in this radio interview, “The jury reached the right result”:

Andrew also gave his take in this interview:


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A good example of the BIG LIE used by the left. The lies, distortion and deception that surrounded this case are epic examples of this tactic.

Wow, Tryvon has been crime free for FIVE YEARS.

Had Trayvon lived, he woulda,

– scored 800 on each one of his SATs,

– been admitted to one (or more) Ivy League school, where he would have been admitted on his own merits and not because of AA, and where he woulda graduated in the top 10% of his class, having majored in one of the STEM disciplines,

– within 5 years of his BS graduation he would have won a Fields Medal,

What coulda been?

    murkyv in reply to fscarn. | February 26, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    “That’s real retarded, sir”

      Like, you know !

        murkyv in reply to pfg. | February 26, 2017 at 8:11 pm

        I knew I would get some downvotes for that.

        I guess not everybody here watched the coverage that LI provided at the time.

        That is a direct quote from the prosecutions star witness, Rachel Jeantel in response to questioning from the defense.

        You know, the one who couldn’t read her own letter to St. Trayvons parents because it was written in cursive.

        “You figured if Trayvon Martin was getting ready to sucker punch someone and get in a fight, he would have told you, “Let me take care of this and I’ll call you right back?”‘ West asked.

        ‘No sir, he would not allow me on the phone with him if he was about the have a fight,’ Jeantel answered.

        At one stage, Jeantel says to West: ‘That’s real retarded sir.

          tom swift in reply to murkyv. | February 26, 2017 at 9:22 pm

          Were I the type to use those goofy “thumb” things, I’d have given you a “down” myself … just for your gratuitous reminder of Jeantel.

    Old0311 in reply to fscarn. | February 27, 2017 at 10:17 am

    Zimmerman killed the one guy smart enough to find a cure for cancer.

    Char Char Binks in reply to fscarn. | February 27, 2017 at 5:07 pm

    Let’s not confuse intelligence with morality, or respect for the law.

I watched the entire trial. George Zimmerman may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he was innocent of the charges. The mainstream media narrative was full of lies. O’Mara was absolutely brilliant. The prosecution was pretty despicable.

And I’m thankful the jury made the right call.

Living in Central Florida and watching the local tv, the coverage was fairly balanced. This may have been because O’Mara is a hometown guy and the prosecutors were the outsiders. Also, O’Mara was one of the legal experts during the Casey Anthony trial.

The coverage by Legal Insurrection was on target and informative. Mr. Branca’s detailed explanation of our “Stand your Ground” law certainly highlighted for us non attorneys what to look for. No doubt whenever the media explains SYG, I think that they are selling us a bunch of “very fake news.”

Finally, if I ever needed an attorney to fight and go head to head with a judge or anyone’ else, yeah Don West is who I want. O’Mara was masterful in using the state’s “dummy”. Judge Nelson reminded me of a female version of Chris Farley and the prosecution could have starred in a remake of the Adam’s Family.

Finally, finally. After Casey Anthony, George Zimmerman and the Pulse tragedy, we need a break from negative news here in Central Florida.

Two points: 1) Zimmerman did not call 911, he called the police non-emergency number. 2) 9/11 refers to the September 11, 2001 attacks. The emergency number is written as “9-1-1” or “911”.

Andrew was brilliant and LI was the go-to place for the real stuff all through this little American vignette.

Travon’s parents have a book and a “foundation” to profit from. Lies are needed to maximize donations. Democrat Convention speaking gig surely helped. Make it fit the narrative, dinosaur media needs this for ratings/advocacy purposes also.

The Zimmerman case was clear evidence that MSM is an enemy of the American people.

Professor Jacobsen, I don’t know if you know this or not, but I created transcripts of the non-emergency call and all of Zimmerman’s police interviews and posted them to my blog. If you don’t have those, you can certainly access mine whenever needed. The last one (1042) is the non-emergency call.

I also created a transcript of the non-emergency call that included my interpretations of the sounds that you can hear on the tape.

The one thing about the case that has always bothered me is why the prosecution proceeded with the case when they had to know that he would be found not guilty. Isn’t that prosecutorial abuse? Shouldn’t they have been censored for that?

    If I remember right, there was a lot of political pressure to bring the case to trial. This pressure included most of the radical social justice warriors, starting with Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Calypso Louis Farrakhan, the Black Panthers and the Obama administration. To drop the case would have been political suicide and quite possibly being hounded to death by the above people.

      In other words, the order came from Valerie Jarrett.

      Gremlin1974 in reply to Stan25. | February 27, 2017 at 5:43 pm

      Yea, you could say that. The first investigators, police chief, and prosecutor to review the case refused to charge Zimmerman. So the city fired the police chief, demoted the investigators back to patrol level and then he supposed “Republican” Governor appointed that horrid woman, Angela Corey, as special prosecutor.

      So after hiring a more sympathetic police chief and getting some brand spanking new investigators they moved forward by charging Zimmerman directly with a bogus document (can’t remember what it was called but it sited evidence that the prosecution didn’t have and it sited media narratives that were proven false) that was so bad that Alan Dershowitz called it a miscarriage of justice. Oh, and this was done going around the Grand Jury that was already seated at the time and had more than enough time to review the case. Wonder why that was, maybe because they knew that they couldn’t actually get a conviction out of a Grand Jury?

      So yea, there was just a touch of political pressure, lol.

      And that was just getting to trial without bringing up all of the unethical behavior by the prosecution and judge.

Listened to the YouTube interview, and it went about as I expected. The anti-SYG/anti-gun side was perfectly willing to pop out with their own questionable statistics, and compare Florida with other countries instead of other states when discussing SYG, which of course was no element of the Zimmerman defense at all.

Thank you, Mr. Branca.

How about the myth of aTrayvon as an innocent young child.

He was a 6′ adult, experienced thug.

DouglasJBender | February 27, 2017 at 2:58 am

Whenever anyone in the MSM tries to use the “fake news” meme to discredit conservative reports, just remind them of NBC’s deceptive editing of the 9-1-1 call by Zimmerman.

Jacobson, I wish you had used the ‘real’ picture of Martin instead of the one used which was very outdated, to further show the bias in the story.

When I voted in November, I stood in line in front of an educated (judging from their speech and chatting with me) black couple about my age. The woman was on the phone talking to someone about having been to church and seen a video of the “Mothers of the Movement,” which included Trayvon’s mother. These were heroes in her eyes. I didn’t want to create a ruckus in a voting line, but of course, since I’d followed the case here, I knew Trayvon’s death was precipitated by his own decision to attack the neighborhood watchman.

There are still, regrettably, some actual cases of racism and police misconduct. The “Movement” would have so much more credibility if it focused on those cases rather than confusing the issue with these cases of justifiable shootings.

The Martin-Zimmerman case was a classic example of liberals being played. It was also the poster child for modern “fake news”.

Whether one views the death of Trayvon Martin as tragic or not is irrelevant to the legal aspects of this case. Whether one finds George Zimmerman to be an unsympathetic figure or not is irrelevant. What is relevant is whether the use of deadly force by George Zimmerman was legally justified under Florida law. But, to the politicians, media, damage attorneys and fellow travelers [with multiple agendas] that point was irrelevant.

The local police investigation was excellent. And the original SA was entirely correct in his decision that there was more than sufficient evidence to support a conclusion that the use of deadly force, in self defense, was lawful under statute. What was reprehensible was the entry of the attorneys for Martin’s parents, the entry of civil rights activists, the dissemination of totally false information by all aspects of the media [both local and national] and the insertion of state politicians into an active homicide case. And, it was all based upon falsehoods, for which no one was ever held accountable.

This case was never about justice. It was about the Benjamins. Look at who benefited from the false narrative provided and how they benefited. Follow the money here and you get a very clear picture as to how the criminal justice system was used to ruin a man for the benefit of others. It is terrifying. And, people still have not learned the lessons taught by this case.

I know Stately McDaniel covered this cases and between LI, The Last Refuge and Stately McDaniel, I did a lot of readying.

I am curious to find out what happens to the off duty copy in CA that had a bunch of thug teenagers attacking him and he pull his gun. Also, whatever happened to the cop in Minn. that shot the guy with a gun that kicked off the Dallas cop shooting. These things seem to have disappears. Is it because they became unless for the media to exploit?

The Marxist media gins up these stories leading up to every election. It’s to get the “get whitey” vote off their donut eating, soda drinking, tv watching, fat lazy @sses to go vote…

I knew a few MSNBC addicts at the time of Zimmerman’s trial. They were walking around crying! I asked one about it and she sobs: That means there is no justice! We can never have justice again!! MSNBC plays the feelings oriented personality types like fiddles… It’s truly psychological warfare all day every day

The one thing you missed: It is obvious from the audio of the 911 recording (I can’t recall if this came out in testimony) that, as soon as the 911 Operator said to Zimmerman “We don’t need you to do that”, Zimmerman STOPPED PURSUING Martin.

The 911 operator says “We don’t need you to do that” Zimmerman responds “OK” and his breathing immediately starts to return to normal, indicating that he is no longer walking or running as he was before.

Immediately after that the dispatcher asks for Zimmerman’s name, which he gives and then says “he ran” [Past Tense].

It’s clear to me that the narrative was wrong not only in whether the suggestion from the dispatcher was actually an order from Police, but also in whether Zimmerman obeyed it. From the audio, it’s obvious to me that Zimmerman DID follow the suggestion and immediately broke off the pursuit when asked to.

    Char Char Binks in reply to Sailorcurt. | February 27, 2017 at 5:17 pm

    All true. Not only that, but it would have been nearly impossible for pudgy George to pursue and catch up to Slimm, given that Slimm had an approximate 10-second head start while George was still exiting his vehicle. Picking the right direction to run, not knowing where Martin was going, after having lost sight of him in the dark, would have been close enough to impossible to prove absurd the claim that Zimmerman ran down and attacked Martin.

      Gremlin1974 in reply to Char Char Binks. | February 27, 2017 at 5:49 pm

      Also people like to ignore that from the time Zimmerman lost site of St. Trayvon of the Sacred Hoodie, Trayvon could have made it to his home behind his locked door like 3 times in the time he waited to ambush Zimmerman. So running scared wasn’t part of Trayvon’s thinking.

        Char Char Binks in reply to Gremlin1974. | February 27, 2017 at 6:11 pm

        Thom Hartmann says the defense claim that Martin had four minutes to run home means they were saying he had the OBLIGATION to run home because he was Black. SJWs have an answer for everything, but it usually boils down to “You’re a racist.”.

          Gremlin1974 in reply to Char Char Binks. | February 28, 2017 at 2:24 pm

          Yea, that was along the same lines as those who were claiming that St. Trayvon of the Sacred Hoodie was not at fault for attacking Zimmerman because Zimmerman was following him and St. Trayvon was just “standing his ground”. Because you know walking the same direction as someone is the same as attacking them!

There are several crimes that were gotten away with during this incident.

1: None of the prosecution team was disbarred, nor even censured, for their blatant violations of evidence and ethics laws.

2: The completely bias and obstructionist judge was allowed to remain on the bench and not disbarred.

3: Then they let the bias and obstructionist judge preside over and then dismiss Zimmerman’s civil suit against the people who were proven to have deceptively edited the phone recording of Zimmerman to the police.

4: Worst of all in my opinion John Guy a member of the prosecution team has since been elevated to the bench and is now a judge.

All of these are crimes that have gone unanswered.

Another part of the narrative that always bugs me is the “innocent young boy out to buy Skittles and iced tea” idea. It was well established that Saint Trayvon enjoyed becoming intoxicated on “Purple Drank,” and on the night he died, he was coming back from the store with some of the ingredients to mix up a batch. Of course that has no bearing on why he was shot, but it does establish that he wasn’t just a good kid with a sweet tooth.

    Gremlin1974 in reply to Hal Jordan. | February 28, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    It’s the same stuff as using the deceptive picture of ST. Trayvon of the Sacred Hoodie that was 5 years old showing a clean cut 12 year old boy, instead of the tattoo’d, gold grilled, thug that was accurate.

    People will look at the first picture and be outraged by the shot kid. People look at the 2nd picture and just see a gang banger who got what was coming to him. I’m not saying it’s right I am just saying it’s reality.

    But this is what the left does and they are very good at it. They create an Image and perception before facts then they do what they are truly good at…never admit that they were wrong and if something was inaccurate well you only feel that way because you are a racist bigot.

    Milhouse in reply to Hal Jordan. | March 2, 2017 at 12:47 am

    No, it isn’t “well established”, it’s actually complete bullsh*t from Conservative Nuthouse. The entire basis for that story was some nut’s unsupported assertion that Skittles™ and Arizona™ Watermelon Fruit Juice Cocktail are the standard ingredients in this mixture, and that the MSM, well aware of this, were trying to cover up his drug abuse by remaining vague about the specific candy and drink he had bought. But this is simply not true. Wikipedia, which on a subject like this is likely to be reliable, says the usual mixers are Sprite™ or Mountain Dew™, and optionally Jolly Rancher™. But the key ingredients, without which it’s no more than a soft drink, are codeine and promethazine, which are only found in prescription cough syrups. If Martin was in the habit of mixing ordinary OTC or BTC Robitussin™ and soda to make “fire-ass lean”, then he was not getting high. In any event there’s not a shred of evidence that his purchases that night had anything to do with this. His brother said he had asked for the Skittles, and there’s no reason not to believe him.