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MAGA Inc. Triggered After Ron DeSantis Has Fun With Family in Iowa on Day of Trump’s Georgia Arrest

MAGA Inc. Triggered After Ron DeSantis Has Fun With Family in Iowa on Day of Trump’s Georgia Arrest

“The TRUMP team is UPSET because Ron DeSantis played ball with his family while their dear leader was getting his mugshot taken. I seriously thought it was a parody account, but they really expect the world to stop spinning because Trump surrendered.”

On Thursday, former President Donald Trump was booked and released, complete with viral mugshot, after turning himself in at the Fulton County Jail in Georgia in response to the 13-count indictment he was hit with earlier this month by Democrat District Attorney Fani Willis.

Though this indictment along with the other three Trump has faced over the last five months is widely viewed in Republican circles as politically motivated election interference, as far as the other GOP presidential campaigns are concerned the show must go on, which is exactly how Ron DeSantis approached a Thursday trip he made to Iowa alongside his family.

The Florida Governor, his wife Casey, and their three kids traveled to Dyersville, Iowa, which is the location of the iconic Field of Dreams and home seen in the classic 1989 movie, which starred Kevin Costner.

During their trip, photos and videos were shared to Twitter, which included some of DeSantis–a former Yale baseball captain–pitching and his kids playing on the field.

Not surprisingly, while DeSantis was there he was asked by a reporter about the “split screen” of him campaigning in Iowa with his family while Trump was getting booked.

“Well, I’m glad I’m at the Field of Dreams. I’m happy to be here,” DeSantis replied, not taking the bait.


Because the silly season is definitely upon us, DeSantis making it clear he’s not going to revolve his entire campaign around Donald Trump’s legal battles caused some hurt feelings among MAGA Inc., including former Trump officials like Cliff Sims:

As per the norm, Trump Jr. and others portrayed DeSantis, without evidence, as a puppet being controlled by “establishment never-Trump consultants” and the Bush family:

But DeSantis’ defenders were quick to hit back, with many pointing to what Donald Trump has previously said about Sims:

Others put things in perspective, noting how ridiculous the complaint was, suggesting that DeSantis didn’t owe Trump much in the way of loyalty after how he’d treated him, and opining along the lines of how it really was okay that DeSantis doesn’t spend his every waking moment focusing on Trump:

There was also this one from “TheUnusualSuspect”:

“Trump and his lackeys have called DeSantis every name in the book. Even suggesting he’s a pedo, that his wife faked her cancer and that Ron killed his sister.

But Ron is not supposed to take a moment to play a little baseball with his kids on the field of dreams but instead defend Trump.

GTFOH you all are giant pieces of Sh*t”

And this one from Twitter user C.A. Britt:

“National mood:

Some people are pissed off and highly motivated to vote for Trump

Many more people are pissed off and highly motivated to vote for any Dem opponent against Trump.

And Desantis showing us all that there’s a better way.

If you want virtue signaling and culture of losing you can fuck right off. I’m done with that shit on both sides.”

My thought on this is that Trump’s Very Online supporters can’t expect everyone, certainly not the GOP presidential candidates, to have this Marjorie Taylor Greene-like 24-7 focus on the Trump indictments.

After all, one can believe that what’s happening to Trump is a witchhunt designed to take down a potential Joe Biden 2024 opponent–something most of the candidates have already acknowledged and condemned–and still understand that those same candidates cannot make their entire candidacies about it when so many voters want to know where they stand on other issues.

Further, from the scattered reports I saw, some of the other candidates who were asked about Trump’s arrest and booking didn’t have much more to say about it than DeSantis did. And yet DeSantis is the one who got the most criticism from MAGA Inc., which just goes to show this was less about being outraged over DeSantis’ actual comments and more about DeSantis’ continued refusal to play by the media’s–and the Trump campaign’s–very one-sided rules when it comes to All Things Trump.

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“Is this heaven? No, it’s Iowa!”

“Since they built it, we had to come.”

Nicely done. “Field of Dreams” is one of my favorite movies, and I’d love the chance to “have a catch” with my deceased father on that field in Iowa — or at least imagine that I am.

    Iowa is NOT heaven. Especially Davenport.

    I do wish congress would walk into the corn field and disappear.

      alien in reply to MrE. | August 26, 2023 at 7:28 pm

      It’s a line from the movie. Never been to Iowa, might be interesting to see.

      I’m from West Virginia so I’ve been to “Almost Heaven.”

While I enjoy this blog, I trust DJT far more than LI

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to rduke007. | August 26, 2023 at 6:45 pm


    Concise in reply to rduke007. | August 26, 2023 at 7:38 pm

    Some republican presidential hopefuls (and some LI contributors) fail to understand that the corruption and weaponization of the law directed against President Trump is a fundamental threat to our constitutional republic, not just a rival candidate.

      GravityOpera in reply to Concise. | August 26, 2023 at 9:02 pm

      We understand it. That’s why we despise Trump so thoroughly.

        Concise in reply to GravityOpera. | August 26, 2023 at 9:38 pm

        You despise the victim? Not too smart. Unless of course you support the democrat hack goon thugs intent on transforming this country into a police state. In which case, I don’t give a crap what you think.

          GravityOpera in reply to Concise. | August 26, 2023 at 10:21 pm

          Victim or not, Trump is an enabler. He (and his family) is actively destroying the opposition that has a chance of improving the situation.

          Concise in reply to Concise. | August 27, 2023 at 10:48 am

          Yeah, and all those other enablers in gulags and jails in N. Korea, Cuba, China. Damn those enablers.

          GravityOpera in reply to Concise. | August 27, 2023 at 5:15 pm

          Were those that you call “enablers in gulags and jails in N. Korea, Cuba, China” actively attacking other opponents of those regimes? No, they weren’t making your response vacuous.

          Concise in reply to Concise. | August 27, 2023 at 7:13 pm

          I’d say they were probably silenced and imprisoned for exercising rights that would be protected under our constitution and for opposing their despotic leaders, similar to the police state tactics targeting President Trump. You should probably stop little police state troll.

          GravityOpera in reply to Concise. | August 27, 2023 at 9:07 pm

          So you’re admitting that the people in the gulags and jails in N. Korea, Cuba, China are NOT enablers.

        gonzotx in reply to GravityOpera. | August 26, 2023 at 10:01 pm

        Are you like BLM/ communist type?
        I’m guessing I’m close

        You will bring down the country to ease your pain, but you’ll just seek out something else to hate.

          GravityOpera in reply to oldschooltwentysix. | August 26, 2023 at 10:18 pm

          You’re projecting.

          If only. However, you said that you despise Trump, which must be painful, and certainly is an expression of hate. No need to project there!

          GravityOpera in reply to oldschooltwentysix. | August 27, 2023 at 1:45 am

          I came right out and explicitly stated I despised Trump. There’s no projection there. It’s projection to believe I’m tearing down the country and would move on to hate a decent, competent, and experienced candidate once Trump is finally left by the wayside.

          “No need to project there!” Stop hating so much and READ!

          “Stop hating so much”?! Channeling your ideological brethren here?

          If we don’t support Trump in the primary (but are perfectly happy to vote for him the general), we are “haters.” Oh, good grief. Yeah, let’s ratchet up the progressive crap to eleventy. From “Never Trump” to “haters.” Need a safe space to blow some bubbles and knead your Play-doh because we made you feel “unsafe” with our terroristic failure to support your chosen candidate (in the primaries)?

          I’ve long held that the political spectrum is not linear, it’s circular. And you Trump fanatics prove it every day that you sink into the sewer of leftist strategy, language, and tactics. It’s sickening how much like them you are. Look at yourselves. LISTEN to yourselves. Be horrified.

        deadrody69 in reply to GravityOpera. | August 27, 2023 at 2:26 pm

        WTF ? That could be the dumbest comment I’ve read in a long, LONG time. It’s Trump’s fault that Democrats have weaponized the government against him / US ?

          GravityOpera in reply to deadrody69. | August 27, 2023 at 5:20 pm

          There is nothing in the statement “We understand it. That’s why we despise Trump so thoroughly.” that implies an accusation is that Trump is at fault.

          If I had pointed out that Trump ran on “Lock Her Up” and this is the entirely predictable blowback you still couldn’t make that claim because the Democrats have been working on weaponizing the government since their inception.

        herm2416 in reply to GravityOpera. | August 28, 2023 at 7:16 am

        You couldn’t possibly understand, now with a comment like yours.
        My goodness.

      gonzotx in reply to Concise. | August 26, 2023 at 9:24 pm


      Mark Steyn knows….

      “Everyone says, if you nominate Trump, he’ll lose in the general;

      2) But that only matters if the general is on the up-and-up;

      3) And, if it isn’t, you might as well take a stand with Trump rather than losing with Nikki Haley. ( or in case of this blog, little d)

      Indeed, if you think the central issue is not Ukraine or the next variant but the suffocating corruption in which the most powerful agencies in the land behave ever more openly as organs of a one-party state, you’re sticking with Trump because the permanent state’s weekly indictments of him are the most outrageous embodiment of the problem.

      These are not normal times: in the years ahead, ever greater corruption – political, judicial, bureaucratic, technological – will be necessary to constrain the people’s choices to the shriveled offerings of the Uniparty. So, if you reckon it’s bad now, wait till next time. GOP primary voters seem to get that at least. The real GOP “suicide mission” (to use John Hinderaker’s phrase) is pretending that any of what’s happening right now is part and parcel of politics in a long-settled society of self-governing citizens.

      Whatever their “suicidal” inclinations, the base seems to get that – and they’re disinclined to be told by their betters to pretend otherwise.”

        txvet2 in reply to gonzotx. | August 26, 2023 at 11:36 pm

        Once again demonstrating that when you express a thought, it’s somebody else’s. I used to endure Stein when he was a Limbaugh fill-in, but the nasal twang and stuttering drove me crazy.

        GravityOpera in reply to gonzotx. | August 27, 2023 at 2:02 am

        1) What happened to number 1?
        2) A different candidate, even “little d”, can defeat the fraud.
        3) And, should Trump sabotages the general election after losing the primary, it’s still better for the people and the remainder of the ballot to stand by a conservative candidate of high moral stature and a stellar record of achieving results at the state level.

        Suicidal is sacrificing the future of the Party and the USA to an anti-gun, welfare spreading, deficit ballooning, “due process later”, adulterer, and egotistical octogenarian.

      Danny in reply to Concise. | August 27, 2023 at 11:34 am

      Did you spend every day before Trump was indicted in a cave in Afghanistan?

      Trump was targeted LAST and the entire reason he is under federal indictment is illegal activities he took in choosing to illegally retain classified documents, refusal to turn them back over when asked, and then lying to his lawyers and the government about having them.

      As for state things no he was not first targeted by state courts either.

      The U.S. federal government tried to put away an ORDINARY MAN for 11 years for defending his child against attack while at a pro-life rally.

      The U.S. Federal government was ALREADY TRYING to put large groups of pro-life protestors in jail for peacefully protesting near an abortion clinic.

      Trump is under federal indictment because he decided “I love hoarding and Hillary got away with it so I should get away with it” (which also should open up questions about his intelligence. If you know they want you in jail DO NOT FLAGRANTLY BREAK THE LAW).

      Trump would likely be fine vis a vis federal government right now without his decision to hoard documents he very clearly had no right to.

      The pro-life protestors facing decades behind bars who committed no crimes but are being railroaded anyway?

      Not so much, they had no choice about will the federal government press charges (Trump absolutely had a choice about facing charges, when hoarding illegally the national archives openly told him “hand over documents or we turn over this case to the DOJ”).

      Mobilizing state…….I do not remember Trump giving a dam about that when the target was Scott Walker.

    Lucifer Morningstar in reply to rduke007. | August 26, 2023 at 10:02 pm

    Then perhaps you’d be happier going on over to where all the rest of the Only Trumpers post the same anti-DeSantis, Trump worshipping nonsense all day long and let the rest of us have adult discussions here at LI without having to deal with the lame Only Trumper comments disrupting everything.

when the question of ” will you support Trump if he is convicted ?” was asked at the debate

the weasel meatball looked around and then finally halfway raised his hand

one of the most cowardly displays I have ever seen on the tube

this guy is such slouch of a person

and you can down vote if you like but it’s on tape

that’s what you are defending

    Othniel in reply to REDACTED. | August 26, 2023 at 6:35 pm

    He already explained earlier in the debate before that question came up that the hand raise thing was stupid. Meanwhile weasel Trump refused to agree to support whoever wins the primary.

      chrisboltssr in reply to Othniel. | August 26, 2023 at 6:54 pm

      So what if it was stupid? Lots of tests in courage is stupid. Vivek raises his hand no question, but DeSantis had to look around to see if its cool for him to raise his hand. Utter coward.

        Othniel in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 26, 2023 at 7:03 pm

        More of an “Ugh, we’re really doing this? Oh, fine.” No cowardice there.

          chrisboltssr in reply to Othniel. | August 26, 2023 at 7:49 pm

          It’s all cowardice. Should have been a man like Vivek: Either keep your hand down and say no, I won’t support Trump or put it up immediately. Looking for validation is a punk move.

          Concise in reply to Othniel. | August 26, 2023 at 9:02 pm

          A lack of leadership and conviction. And complete obliviousness as to the seriousness of the threat to the rule of law in this country. Not good things for someone who wants to be President.

          herm2416 in reply to Othniel. | August 28, 2023 at 7:24 am

          No cowardice.
          If he really meant ugh, he would have just rolled his eyes, shook his head, and crossed his arms to make a point.
          Instead, he looked at all the other candidates.
          Leading from behind.

        Lucifer Morningstar in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 26, 2023 at 9:39 pm

        At least DeSantis actually showed up for the debate and didn’t chicken out like Trump. What an utter coward. And don’t tell me it was because he didn’t have anything to gain by showing up. He was just scared to actually confront DeSantis face to face after all the name calling he engaged in. Anything else is just a convenient excuse for his not showing.

        And if the GOP had any balls (they don’t so don’t worry) they’d tell Trump at this point if he couldn’t be half arsed to show up for the first debate then he doesn’t get to participate in any other GOP activities or debates.

      Concise in reply to Othniel. | August 26, 2023 at 9:00 pm

      The question of supporting the primary winner is thousands of light years removed in importance from the question of supporting President Trump against this corruption of the legal process. It’s not even in the same galaxy.

        txvet2 in reply to Concise. | August 27, 2023 at 12:58 am

        I’d written a comment in response to this quite some time ago, but apparently I neglected to hit the “SUBMIT” button. Support for Trump WRE these bogus charges is pretty much universal. That has nothing to do with supporting him for another term of office.

          Concise in reply to txvet2. | August 27, 2023 at 10:09 am

          Yeah, that’s comforting. “Pretty much” universal means not all candidates, the republican party or commenters here oppose the democrat police state. I half expect Christie to hug Fani Willis, Pence probably wants to be witness at some trials, and DeSantis, well who knows, it depends on what he sees others do.

      gonzotx in reply to Othniel. | August 26, 2023 at 10:00 pm

      Lol none of those losers outside of maybe Viv would support President Trump

      Asa baby has already said no and crispy crème

      You trust those people?


      Not with a dead dog

        txvet2 in reply to gonzotx. | August 27, 2023 at 12:45 am

        And yet, the only ones who have emphatically declared their opposition to supporting anybody but the nominee are the Trumpbots – including you.

Manufacturing outrage used to be exclusive to lefty d/prog. MAGADONIANS doing a ‘pearl clutching’ routine b/c DeSantis took time off while campaigning in Iowa to take his family to an outing at the Field of Dreams place in Iowa is Looney. The world doesn’t revolve around Trump and every time the Only Trump fanatics go over the top to show that to them it does, it undercuts their credibility.

    Other supporters are immune. Goit it.

    chrisboltssr in reply to CommoChief. | August 26, 2023 at 6:52 pm

    Then why do you DeSantis freaks get so mad when Trump and Trump supporters attack the man?

      Why do you Trump supporters get so mad when people criticize Trump?

        chrisboltssr in reply to txvet2. | August 26, 2023 at 7:49 pm

        I don’t get mad when you criticize Trump. Do it to your hearts content. Just come up with original content!

      CommoChief in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 26, 2023 at 7:40 pm

      I haven’t picked a candidate to throw my support behind as yet. It is way too early to pick someone IMO. It’s not even past labor day of the year before the election. All sorts of black swan events can occur before we get to the meat of the primary and the real polls are taken at the ballot box.

      I could care less about political elbows being thrown in a contested GoP primary. Let’s not forget just which candidate sought to avoid a contested primary. Hint, it wasn’t DeSantis who didn’t want competition and tried to derail efforts of other campaigns to show up and compete.

      Though Trump did seem to invite and/or welcome both Haley and Ramaswamy into the race, both of whom seem to be laser focused on damaging DeSantis. At least as much as Christi is focused on damaging Trump.

        chrisboltssr in reply to CommoChief. | August 26, 2023 at 7:51 pm

        Oh, stop and stop posting these giant, long expositions when none is needed. Right now, there only three men worth your time, you’ve been opening your mouth mostly about DeSantis. Just stop with the nonsense.

          CommoChief in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 26, 2023 at 8:00 pm

          So I should shut up and do what you want?
          Go fuck yourself you totalitarian twat.

          The nonsense and hypocrisy comes straight from the MAGADONIANS who in cult like fashion move as one against anyone who dissents from their narrow minded view.

          By th way three paragraphs is hardly excessive in a long form blog comment section. This ain’t X (Twitter) where there’s A character count. Go play in that sandbox if you don’t like it here or stay and continue to see some of us use the opportunity of a long form blog comment section to its fullest at times.

          So…. you’re unilaterally cutting the field. Why not go all the way and eliminate everyone but Trump? Oh wait, you did – below.

          chrisboltssr in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 26, 2023 at 8:27 pm

          txvet2, I didn’t eliminate anyone. Now that all these unnecessary people are in the race I want to see them get their asses whooped.

          “”Now that all these unnecessary people are in the race I want to see them get their asses whooped.””

          Which will bother me at all. Most of them are “candidates’ to advance some other motive – like a book, or potential VP, or to get a gig selling sleep medication like Huckabee.

          Which will bother me NOT at all. Failure to proofread.

        gonzotx in reply to CommoChief. | August 26, 2023 at 10:06 pm

        Heap big chief talks out of both sides…

          CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | August 27, 2023 at 6:23 pm

          What I do is try and be fair in my posts. Make an honest assessment of what is happening. If there are trends I point them out. If I can discern secondary or tertiary impacts I point those out. When I see hypocrisy I always point that out.

          I try and do that across the board though the fervent Only Trump contingent here does draw fire b/c they tend to engage in hypocrisy and a determined refusal to acknowledge errors by Trump. Some of you tend to make broad claims/statements that don’t hold up under scrutiny.

          This is particularly true concerning his clear missteps on Covid by letting Fauci and Birx run wild and not employing his Veto on any budget lacking funding for the border wall.

          There’s plenty of things to like about Trump but he isn’t infallible. I and many others here not currently committed to Trump in the primary voted for him at least twice in the general. I have cast four ballots for him, both primary elections and both general elections.

          My advice would be to admit where he made errors instead of denying their reality. It will increase your effectiveness as his surrogate. That and stop making ad hominem attacks on commenters or candidates while also eliminating the juvenile name calling unless you want it directed back at you. This is a long form blog comment section not X (Twitter) that encourages discussions not pithy one liners. This isn’t really the venue for ‘sick burns’, alternate sites exist for those. I suspect that if you keep doing it and more folks will ignore you or begin pushing back.

      GravityOpera in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 26, 2023 at 9:05 pm

      Because the attacks, like this one, are baloney or are attacking him from the left.

      Lucifer Morningstar in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 26, 2023 at 9:41 pm

      Then why do you Trump freaks get so mad when DeSantis and DeSantis supporters attack the man?

    Concise in reply to CommoChief. | August 26, 2023 at 9:48 pm

    DeSantis is headed down that Howard Dean path. He needs to pull of this race.

    wendybar in reply to CommoChief. | August 27, 2023 at 8:23 am

    Nobody cares. Didn’t even know this happened until I read it here, and read all the Never Trumpers complaining….AGAIN.

Silly inside baseball stuff and cheerleading. Most people, including Trump supporters, care a lot less than made out here.

Nor does anyone ask DeSantis to “revolve his entire campaign around Donald Trump’s legal battles.” What an exxageration. When had this event EVER occurred before? To acknowledge such an event would be far from “revolving.” But, in truth, who really cares outside of social media, which seems to be the driver of too much political news.

The Gentle Grizzly | August 26, 2023 at 6:50 pm

Gee. In my small city, the traffic did not cease movement for three minutes in solidarity with Trump, nor did the food court at the mall observe a moment of silence.

    Same here in VA, Grizz. Why, if you can believe it, I even saw people laughing and enjoying a coffee with friends, even saw some people shopping at the grocery store. Downright disrespectful.

      gonzotx in reply to Telemachus. | August 26, 2023 at 10:10 pm

      And that is precisely the pro, people are so dumber down they haven’t got a real handle on the severity of the issue

      Hell, most peope couldn’t tell you what the difference is between a Republic vs Democracy vs communism

      Much less the bill of right and the Constitution

      We are a failed Country grasping at that last stew of liberty and you think it’s a joke

        Telemachus in reply to gonzotx. | August 27, 2023 at 8:10 am

        No, I don’t think it’s a joke, and I do worry about the direction of the country, just as much as you. I just pointed out that for most people the world didn’t stop turning for those few moments.

        As other commenters have pointed out, we can both recognize and despise the lawfare and destruction of the rule of law being perpetrated against President Trump, and also prefer another candidate for president in 2024. I don’t think either of these positions excludes the other.


      amwick in reply to gonzotx. | August 27, 2023 at 6:16 am

      I believe Mr. Grizzly shared his home city… It is not Detroit.. IIRC, it is not that far from where I live and, it is lovely.

All that debate showed was that DeSantis is a snake. Looking left and right to see if other GOP candidates would raise their hand to support Trump, before radish his own hand.
And then when asked about it he deflects and screams, “I signed the pledge! I signed the pledge!”

Utterly pathetic. 2024 should have been so easy. Nope!

    How do you radish a hand?

    “I signed the pledge! I signed the pledge!” HE did! He did! Trump didn’t.

    “”2024 should have been so easy.”” You’re confusing Trump with Charles. We don’t crown kings here.

      Telemachus in reply to txvet2. | August 26, 2023 at 7:31 pm

      But tx, that’s what they (and Trump) demand – a coronation. They won’t get it from me.

        chrisboltssr in reply to Telemachus. | August 26, 2023 at 7:56 pm

        I don’t demand anything from you NeverTrumpers and SomewhatTrumpers. You’re good for nothings.

          You’ll be singing another song come the general election – IF Trump’s the nominee – or if he isn’t.

          Telemachus in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 27, 2023 at 8:16 am

          NeverTrumper? I voted for him twice, and will do so again in Nov 2024 if he is the nominee. That is not the definition of a NeverTrumper.

          And I stand by my assertion that he and his most fervent supporters wanted a coronation. “By their deeds you shall know them.” Someone made that observation long before me.

      chrisboltssr in reply to txvet2. | August 26, 2023 at 7:55 pm

      Oh, don’t be cute. You know what us supposed to be there.

      And I’m fine that Trump didn’t sign a pledge. Why do dumb Republicans do dumb stuff like signing a pledge.

      And support whomever you want. I just look at the past and saw how a disunified ultimately destroyed itself before the general. And of course you want a coronation, thats why you want all of us to get behind DeSantis. F that and f that guy.

        healthguyfsu in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 26, 2023 at 9:20 pm

        No he just asked people to swear loyalty to him in a rally. Nothing wrong with that at all.

          chrisboltssr in reply to healthguyfsu. | August 26, 2023 at 9:37 pm

          I have no problem giving my loyalty to a man who, for the most part, kept all of his promises to the people who helped get him elected. Why is it you NeverTrumpers, SomewhatTrumpers, and Leftists have a problem with people being loyal to someone else? When did being loyal become a vice?

        You’re getting really confused. NOBODY is asking you to get behind DeSantis. We know you’re locked into Trump, but not all of the people who are presently supporting him in polls will necessarily support him with the primaries come around. There’s lots of water to go under the bridge before then. BUT, you Trump supporters have been demanding essentially since 2020 that we lock in with you. We aren’t into nomination by acclamation. If Trump wins the nomination, that’s fine. The difference is, we can handle our preferred candidate(s) losing the nomination. You can’t.

        gonzotx in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 26, 2023 at 9:55 pm

        You’re right but Viv made billions in very BS pharmaceutical way and he just flip flops all over the place.

        I don’t trust him, but I appreciate his immediate hand raise to support President Trump, he didn’t need affirmation from his handlers.

        It couldn’t be clearer that little d doesn’t have the intelligence to understand the gravity of the situation

        He goes out for a photo op on one of the saddest days of the Republic

        He’s a bonafide


          Telemachus in reply to gonzotx. | August 27, 2023 at 8:26 am

          Gonzo, you undercut your credibility when you say things like DeSantis is “… a bonafide idiot” or “doesn’t have the intelligence …” That is so obviously incorrect. And calling him “little d” makes you sound brainwashed, cultist even.

          I’ve decided not to bait you anymore, and hopefully other commenters here will agree, but surely you can see how difficult you make that when you make such outlandish and hate-filled statements?

    Lucifer Morningstar in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 26, 2023 at 9:57 pm

    And as I said before at least DeSantis bothered to show up for the debate. Unlike Trump who blew it off with the lame excuse that he doesn’t have anything to gain from attending. Utterly pathetic. 2024 should have been so easy. But Trump never makes anything easy.

Every President will be called upon to comment on key news events, DeSantis taking the Biden approach is not a good look for a candidate running for President.

DeSantis is the Republican version of Carter or Dukakis – men who could handle the state executive office (Governor), but were not suitable for the US executive office (President).

    CommoChief in reply to luckydog. | August 26, 2023 at 7:53 pm

    Nah. Refusing to play the lapdog legacy media game of ‘gotcha’ is smart. First it PO the media and that’s always a plus. Second it shifts attention back to what he wants to talk about v the made up ‘media memo question of the day’ BS. Third if you play the media gotcha game where the script is:
    Media Q -Hey candidate this GoP person did/said X what’s your reaction?

    If you are dumb enough to play they edit your response to make whatever you say out of context to damage you. Then they critique your answer ‘it wasn’t forceful enough or it wasn’t clear enough or emphatic enough’. The goal is try and force every other prominent GoP member to discuss what someone else did or said. Eff that, refuse to play their game by resting the formula.

    The lapdog legacy media wants to cover the mechanics of the horse race they don’t like covering the horses themselves. Refusing to play the gotcha game forces them out of their comfort zone and into covering the horses. Smart political communication strategy that DeSantis has effectively used as Gov to get HIS message delivered v the lapdog legacy media spin about the message.

      alien in reply to CommoChief. | August 26, 2023 at 8:08 pm

      Uh-oh — you wrote another three-paragraph response.
      Someone might get upset because they can’t hold a cogent thought for that long.

      I second your sentiments. It’s waaaaaay too early to make a choice.
      And I won’t be selecting anyone in the primary — FL’s is closed and I’m NPA.

      Shorter (and somewhat less on-point) : When Republicans screw up, that’s the story. When Democrats screw up, the Republican reaction is the story.

      Don’t play their game.

The co-bloggers here at LI are trolling! And the Prof’s rate-a-mugshot poll? lmao.

I liked Ron De Santis. He’s been a top-notch governor in Florida. Everyone relevant in the party liked him, across the nation.

Taking up with the Rove/GOPe aside, I don’t think he’s ready for the presidency. Close, but not quite yet.

He should have let Trump take it, because he’d have been the VP. He blew it.

    Ii use to like him til Mara Lago and then he showed his true self hiding like Biden for 5 days in his basement and producing a weak text, could t even use President Trumps. Ame…

    Hi I’m
    Little d and I’ve been bought…

    “”I liked Ron De Santis. “”

    You’re a liar.

      deadrody69 in reply to txvet2. | August 27, 2023 at 2:24 pm

      Nonsense. Lots of people had a favorable opinion of DeSantis. Less so after his Ukraine flub and the obvious GOPe support.

    He was a top notch governor until he wasn’t. Some people in Florida feel cheated.

    A huge issue in FL that I have read about it is the thing with home insurance skyrocketing. Not sure if that is being exaggerated because I don’t live there. Has he taken time to address that for his constituents?

      alien in reply to amwick. | August 27, 2023 at 7:29 am

      Who in FL feels cheated? Perhaps the Donks that didn’t support DeSantis during both of his terms.

      The property insurance market in FL has been in turmoil since Hurricane Andrew in 1991. One past governor, Charlie Crist, told major insurers that they could just leave the state if they wanted to charge more in premium to allow for the increased costs of doing business here. That wasn’t a smart move and he backed off right away when State Farm, among others, announced that they would cease doing business in FL.

      Gov. DeSantis has been working with the legislature to help reduce pressure on the consumer insurance market — results won’t come overnight, but it takes some time to reverse 30 years of turmoil in the industry. (Full disclosure: retired after 32 years as an adjuster.) One example (there are others): Gov. DeSantis signs property insurance package after Florida lawmakers pass bills in special session

      “Until he wasn’t”? And when was that? Be specific. And who in Florida “feels cheated” and why? Be specific.

      I am a Free Floridian, and I can assure you that he is an excellent governor and has been all along. I do not “feel cheated” (I don’t have a clue what you even mean, thus my question).

      Alien has responded to the insurance question (as have I in previous threads), so I won’t go into that again here.

Don Jr just took things even lower.

Is Rhonda Santis transitioning?

Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr

Trumpets channeling their inner progressive thought police and demanding everyone validate their feelings.

So many comments about DeSantis’ body language when raising his hand?? Give me a break!

The most important question for the Only Trumpers: If Trump is not the GOP nominee, will you do your civic duty for the good of your country and vote for an electable candidate against the Democrat, or will you take your ball and go home, because you didn’t get your way?

    gonzotx in reply to Tom Orrow. | August 26, 2023 at 10:27 pm

    I will take my ball and go home

    There is not a one that will put America and
    My Family first and I’ve voted for RINOs for years and, in reality, better to know their democrats then just have them lie to my face.

    These RINOs just know to pocket money and hold committees
    While our borders have been eliminated, our cities full of murderers, our children being cut up and having balls shoved in their faces
    Yes many times by willing sick f-king parents that should have their children taken from them…

    And allow china to set up in the Caribbean and Cuba.. not a word

    Our freaking Representatives do absolutely nothing will our manufacturing goes abroad, our rights are destroyed amd our money is made worthless

    And you want me to back little d, VIV, Haley

    Putin and Xi are already eating their lunches

    They respected President Trump

    I’ll put my energy, money and time into my family, land , lock and load…

    Because the only thing standing between complete chaos and us is President Trump

    ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to Tom Orrow. | August 27, 2023 at 2:18 am

    If Trump is not the GOP nominee,

    Meaning what? That Trump loses the GOP primary?

    If he loses the GOP primary I’ll vote for the GOP candidate, no doubt.

    But do you mean that Trump is either jailed by traitors, or illegally thrown off of the state ballots by treasonous SecStates, or assassinated by the lowlife dems?

    In any of those cases, all bets are off, really. If you don’t realize that then you are just dense … or worse.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | August 27, 2023 at 2:13 am

The TRUMP team is UPSET because Ron DeSantis played ball with his family while their dear leader was getting his mugshot taken.

“dear leader”… puh-leeease. That is completely retarded. The dems have declared open war on America and Americans and some moron is trying to pretend that this is …. just another day in the United States.

The dems are in open civil war against this nation and there are too many people who are either too stupid to understand that or too cowardly to acknowledge it or too sinister to even want to fight it. These are morons who would have watched the old Soviet trials and pretended that they were faithful mechanisms of fair law … as if.

It would be nice if the leading Republicans would act as if the dems are waging an insane, nihilistic war against us. They are destroying everything about America. It’s sort of a big deal.

    DeSantis has been under attack by Trump and his surrogates since long before he entered the race. While the government’s actions against Trump are abhorrent, it’s certainly understandable if DeSantis chooses NOT to make Trump’s predicament the focus of his campaign, and subsequently boost Trump’s poll number as every prosecutorial step has.

      ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to ChrisPeters. | August 27, 2023 at 2:44 am

      While the government’s actions against Trump are abhorrent, it’s certainly understandable if DeSantis chooses NOT to make Trump’s predicament the focus of his campaign,

      The government’s actions are not against Trump. They are against the United States of America.

      That is the point. It is an important point. The most important. There is nothing else, really.

        I wish you had showed up earlier. I feel exactly the same way.

        We are debating(?) discussing(?) the dinner menu, and our ship is sinking.

          AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to amwick. | August 27, 2023 at 8:02 am

          But the band is doing a fine job playing tunes on the lido deck, while the USS America lists to port.

          I said it once recently on this site, and I’ll say it again.

          Looking at the comments on this page, the Democrat candidate will win, hands down. This includes Joe Biden campaigning from his basement, Kamala Harris cackling her way to the hen house, or even Michelle Obama, who may be a dark horse candidate.

          Why? Because the Dems will rally around a dead mosquito for president while the republicans will clutch their pearls because the media set off a bullshit comment war between the NeverTrumpers, the OnlyTrumpers, the little d DeSantis Only, DeSanctimonious no way, and the Also Ran candidates.

          And nearly everyone on this comment section is falling for it.

          And nearly everyone on this site will grab their toys and go home if their candidate isn’t THE CANDIDATE.

          No wonder I and many of the people I meet prefer to be Libertarian / Independent / Conservative voters. People are leaving the UniParty in droves because they are tired of the cult of personality that is covering up their collusion of taking money from International Corporations hellbent on buying their votes.

          But go ahead. They’ll continue to insult and shit on each other until the water is at the gun wale.

          I don’t think this is the case, Chief. I haven’t seen anyone (except me, once, in a fit of pique) say that they won’t vote for Trump if he wins the nomination (I will, of course), so this is about the primary not about the general election. The only people who have stated, loud and proud, that they won’t vote for anyone BUT Trump in the general are Only Trumpers (thus their name). But maybe these are the people you are addressing in your comment? Not sure, but it sounds like you mean those of us who will not be voting for Trump in the primary (and I certainly won’t be).

          These people keep calling those of us who voted for Trump (twice!), don’t support him in the GOP primary, but are committed to voting for him in the general election if he wins the nomination “Never Trumpers.” That’s ridiculous.

          If he wins the nomination without our primary votes (and he’ll win the primary in my state without my vote, as things stand today), we’ll vote for him in the general. These people are just ticked off that we won’t bend to their will and that we aren’t “true” MAGA (whatever that means). So the heck what, my vote in the general is exactly the same as theirs. There is no “I really really” support this candidate box on a ballot.

“After all, one can believe that what’s happening to Trump is a witchhunt designed to take down a potential Joe Biden 2024 opponent.”

Wrong. What’s happening to Trump is about making political disagreement with the left illegal. The commies will not stop with him.

    CommoChief in reply to Paddy M. | August 27, 2023 at 11:14 am

    Yes and using the sometimes over-the-top communication style, bombastic statements and edgy actions of Trump against him.

    Lots to like about Trump but he does tend to have a bit of a devil may care attitude. While admirable in many respects and always entertaining that part of his persona is being used as a wedge in the d/prog lawfare operation(s) to try and damage or take him out.

Why is it if Trump is anywhere near as wealthy as he claims he uses his campaign to pay for his legal defenses instead of his wealth and the codefendants are stuck paying their own legal bills?

    Also, if Trump is anywhere near as wealthy as he claims to be, then why doesn’t he spend part of his fortune going toe to toe with Soros and get some conservative District Attorneys elected to stop the politicization of criminal prosecutions?

What Trump is going through is a “legal battle”?

That’s why the entire Republican field is in the single digits: they will gladly step over Trump’s imprisoned body to become President.

Anyone who fails to recognize that jailing political opponents during an election campaign for the first time in our history is as serious-as-eye-cancer to our freedom doesn’t deserve to be within 1,000 miles of the White House.

I will vote for whoever the Republican candidate, except Chris Christie, who would have Trump jailed, and Mitt Romney or Liz Cheney, if they should come in late and win the nomination. Although it is quite early, Trump is set to be the candidate unless he is barred from running, which means America would have entered an even darker period. DeSantis does not have independent money, most candidates d0, and rely on big donors. Trump has had big donors fall away and still appears pretty solid in his support. Will DeSantis compromise for his donors? I don’t know. He has solid support in Florida, but the presidency is a whole different landscape. Also, he played coy about running. He should have waited. No matter what happens in 2024, had he held back as Kristi Noem did, he would have had the MAGA base and more. Even so, I am not convinced that he is a terrible candidate and would vote for him if he wins the nomination, from what I know now. I am voting for Trump in the primary. Failure to build to wall and arrest HRC does not make me feel that I was less safe or that my life in general took a downturn under Trump. I am not going to rehash Covid; I don’t blame Trump [I actually believe that he was affected when a close friend of his died from it; I watched every presser]. I am not looking for a Messiah; God is reliable for coming through on his promises. I don’t put my faith in men, not even Trump.

What is quite … don’t know the word I want here … is that people who believe that Trump is all about himself, did nothing for the country, failed to keep one promise, is the “orange [fill in the blank], is arrogant, cowardly, etc. are definitely voting for him if he wins the primary.

So says a member in good standing of NeverTrump Conservative Inc ???

Deliberately not understanding.

Ron could have shone here. He could have put some of the steel in his eye that made us love him –all of us– when he was creating Fortress Florida as an American bastion against the left.

He could have talked about the travesty, the evil that is happening as the left uses governmental power as it’s own personal weapon. As the entirety of the system of American justice is destroyed to cater to leftist aims and how HE is the one to stop it. Forever.

But he didn’t do that. He mealy mouthed. Not good. Not bad. Just meh.


Ron needs to STOP being meh.

He’s pissing away HIS no-longer-worried-about-reelection term in which he could be expanding his policies into new areas and shoring up and making permanent the policies he’s already implemented to chase a ghost term that the people who claim to support him are using to render him forever unelectable.