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Trump Mugshot Rorschach Test (Reader Poll)

Trump Mugshot Rorschach Test (Reader Poll)

Do a word association. What is the word to describe the mugshot — not how you feel about it (e.g. anger) — but what you think his ‘look’ shows.

I wasn’t sure what ‘look’ Trump would use when he went for his mugshot when he turned himself in at the Fulton County jail.

Would he be smiling, like Jenna Ellis (one of the best mug shots ever IMO)? Nah, gave that maybe a 20% chance of happening.

I knew Trump would want to convey a stronger message.  And that it would be done in a way that he and his advisors thought would best serve his campaign.

Not sure I expected the actual result.

The reaction among OnlyTrump supporters on social media is nothing short of euphoric, they see in that image victory to come for someone falsely accused and harassed who is ready to get even, big league. Among NeverTrump haters, well you know, they see the opposite, a criminal rightly accused who is dangerous, even more so now because he is ready to get even, big league.

What about people who are neither OnlyTrump nor NeverTrump? I think the reactions may be more mixed. Clearly, a desire for retribution is in his eyes — deliberately — but whether that is what people want in a general election candidate is the wild card. Get outside your respective bubbles.

I described my own first reaction on NTD TV (an affiliate of The Epoch Times):


Do a word association. What is the word to describe the mugshot — not how you feel about it (e.g. anger) — but what you think his ‘look’ conveys. I tried to come up with some choices that covered the spectrum. You may have others, that’s why we have the comment section.

Pick up to three choices.

(Poll open until 9 a.m. Eastern, Monday. Viewing poll requires you have Javascript enabled.)


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Said here yesterday, immediately on it’s release: “Trump looks like he has a purpose.”

Will leave it to others to analyze his mind and motivations. Without doubt, he is a singular figure in American history, even more if he overcomes. The tragedy may be he is remembered for the way he was persecuted and the dark period created by his globalist Inquisitors.

It’s not Trump that is responsible. It’s his Inquisitors, and the list is long who they are.

Close The Fed | August 25, 2023 at 7:43 pm

Trump has a worldwide audience – including other world leaders. He should look fierce, determined, undeterred, unbowed and completely focused, and he does.

Perfect photo. Ideal photo.

DeSantis supporter here.

    Also a DeSantis supporter, and I hate what is happening to our country. But this is not about Trump, not at rock bottom. This was always the plan, Trump just got in the way.

      JohnSmith100 in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 25, 2023 at 9:09 pm

      Turning what is happening around is about Trump. I have many traits similar to Trump, the difference is that Trump focused on making money his whole life while at about mid life I switched to good works. That was driven by mentors, friends who were very successful making charitable contributions where most of the value was squandered in bureaucracies. I discussed with them that there was a need to have people truly committed to our cause, not just suits sucking up resources. So that is how I spent the 2nd half of my life.

      I see a kindred spirit in Trump. He is a fighter and today we need that, if I was younger, really healthier, I would be active in this.

        healthguyfsu in reply to JohnSmith100. | August 25, 2023 at 9:18 pm

        Trump was born with lots of money to try and make money, too. I don’t think he is “one of us”, but I’ve never needed someone who was considered as such.

        The problem is that I think he has some serious character flaws and shortcomings that he can’t or won’t learn from. While I’m done with him politically at this point, he did good things and shouldn’t be prosecuted politically.

        I like your honesty and your clear connection to some part of Trump’s magic. I know there’s some magic or draw there, it just doesn’t reach me because I am more results oriented than feelzy. He really wants stuff, but he can’t get any of it done. That’s a drag for me. But I do respect your connection to him, very much. 🙂

          Pick those that are still in effect or not about to expire (like the tax cuts) and get back to me.

          Fuzzy, I think your response to rduke007 is merely glib. Almost everything an administration or congress accomplishes can be destroyed on otherwise undone by subsequent administrations or congresses. Take the policy on our border for example.

          Of course, Bakr al-Baghdadi and Qassem Soleimani are still dead. The Abraham Accords are still in effect, as is the USMCA (i.e., the U.S., Mexico, Canada trade accords) that improved upon NAFTA.

          Don’t be silly, Ira. Presidents make history by passing laws, not by EO. Trump cannot (well, would not and still will not) work with Congress to get anything passed into law. Sure, he killed some baddies, but so did Obama. Want to elect him again? Or are you just being resistant to the fact that Trump was a great president (a fact I have not denied) but the second he was replaced almost all his “achievements” were undone by Biden?

          The Abraham Accords are his crowning achievement, and (so far at least) Biden has not moved our embassy out of Jerusalem (another very important Trump accomplishment). I think the other lasting thing he did was to remove the ObamaCare tax. These are good things! Very good things, but he didn’t do a thing he promised on the campaign trail, right? The Abraham Accords were negotiated by his son-in-law, not Mr. Art of the Deal.

          He did good in so many ways, or he INTENDED to do good, but the problem was that he didn’t actually accomplish much that was lasting. I find this unacceptable. YMMV.

          By the way, I was at a dinner with 3 liberals and 2 conservatives here in L.A.. One liberal asked me who was my choice to be sworn in as POTUS in January 2025. My immediate response was Trump or DeSantis. In turn, I asked the liberal who was his choice. He hemmed and hawed for 5 minutes, and other than saying Klobuchar, and not Newsom, would be on his list, he had no one. Not even Biden.

          That is interesting! Klobuchar is kind of hard core rightwing to lefties from Cali, right? (Yes, we find that hilarious, but still). No one wants Biden. But no one wants Trump, either. Well, the Trump faithful do, but they couldn’t win him a chicken dinner in the general when the vast majority of voters would actually rather have corrupt pedo Joe than Trump. This is set in stone, these people would rather eat bugs in the dark than vote for Trump. It’s not hard if you recall how much we hated Hillary . . . and then multiply that by a zillion. There is a true visceral hatred for Trump, and he’s not even TRYING to win new voters. In fact, his herd of crazies is turning off more potential voters than Trump himself ever could.

          “Klobuchar is kind of hard core rightwing to lefties from Cali, right?”
          Yes. That friend who said Klobuchar would be on his list is super left wing. As were the other 2 liberals. What I found interesting, was that none of them actually volunteered the name of anyone that he or she would actually want.

          Fuzzy, I get from where you are coming. I personally know some only-Trumpers and some Republicans/conservatives who are never-Trumpers when it comes to the issue of who should be sworn in as POTUS in January 2025. I think, with respect to that issue, that they’re all crazy.

          By the way, I’m a firm believer in the Republicans’ 11th Commandment. And, yes, I’m super-pissed at Trump’s violating it.

          Yet, as you can see, Trump and DeSantis are my current picks.

          From a rightfully-respected blog ( with excellent writers and researchers, which blog consistenly puts every single legacy news source to shame (emphasis added),

          President Donald Trump understood the U.S.’s vulnerability [to communist China] in the semiconductor sector. Despite criticism from the mainstream media, he made it front and center of his China policy. The Australian think tank Lowy Institute noted in a 2021 paper:

          Export control policy in the semiconductor sector – an industry that supplies the world’s computer, smartphone, appliances and medical equipment industry with electronic chips – was at the forefront of Donald Trump’s tech war against China. The addition of China’s top chipmakers, such as Huawei and the Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation (SMIC), to the US Department of Commerce’s “entity list” between 2019 and 2020 brought an abrupt stop to the two countries’ technological cooperation.

        jhkrischel in reply to JohnSmith100. | August 26, 2023 at 8:38 am

        I think DeSantis is a great governor. But the universe is calling out for justice, and the Democrats need to be punished.

        At this point, DeSantis would need to convince me that he would punish Trump’s enemies with more zeal and conviction than Trump would, and become so Trump like, Trump’s enemies would *wish* they had Trump instead.

        But so far, DeSantis is playing “safe-Trump” instead. Maybe that changes later on.

        For now, the biggest punishment for Ds would be 4 more Trump years and two more SCOTUS appointments from him.

          broomhandle in reply to jhkrischel. | August 26, 2023 at 4:32 pm

          DeSantis will punish the Democrats but not because of what they did to Trump. He will do it because of what they are doing to America.

          And he will punish them by getting better legislation passed, not by saying the right thing to frustrate leftists on TV and Platform X.

          Trump not only did not “punish” his known enemies while in office and had the power, but he appointed more of them or gave them more power (especially Fauci). I just do not get this “sqvior” complex people have about him. Trump’s policies were great, except for Covid. But, in fact, he made the swamp worse and, because of that, was not re-elected. It is also 100% on Trump the 2 Senate losses in Georgia in Jan 2021, which cost us the entire Biden legislative agenda.

      MattMusson in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 26, 2023 at 7:34 pm

      If the Democrats had a functioning Candidate, they would never have indicted Trump.

        Dr.Dave in reply to MattMusson. | August 27, 2023 at 11:37 am

        I don’t understand blaming Trump for having a bureaucrat in place that was actually promoted to the position under Regan. Donal Trump is not perfect bur was extraordinary successful while being constantly investigated, sued, hostile press, Hollywood,. Excessively aggressive opposition party and let’s not forget Rhinos in his on party line Paul Ryan. Had it not been for Ryan, we may actually would have had a secure boarder and the crisis may be much less than it is now that includes sex trafficking and overdoses. Other Republican president were far less successful with far less resistance. I’m personally ready for Trump to clean hose. Be prepared for another season of love from the democrats. They mainly destroy themselves anyway.

      From a rightfully-respected blog ( with excellent writers and researchers, which blog consistenly puts every single legacy news source to shame (emphasis added),

      President Donald Trump understood the U.S.’s vulnerability [to communist China] in the semiconductor sector. Despite criticism from the mainstream media, he made it front and center of his China policy. The Australian think tank Lowy Institute noted in a 2021 paper:

      Export control policy in the semiconductor sector – an industry that supplies the world’s computer, smartphone, appliances and medical equipment industry with electronic chips – was at the forefront of Donald Trump’s tech war against China. The addition of China’s top chipmakers, such as Huawei and the Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation (SMIC), to the US Department of Commerce’s “entity list” between 2019 and 2020 brought an abrupt stop to the two countries’ technological cooperation.

    rebelgirl in reply to Close The Fed. | August 26, 2023 at 7:04 am

    Desantis here also and I completely agree with you.

    CommoChief in reply to Close The Fed. | August 26, 2023 at 8:07 am

    Agreed. Very smart photo. Looks IMO like righteous indignation which absolutely appropriate under the circumstances.

    Then using political judo to reverse the situation and put the mugshot onto merch and offer it for sale, that’s an incredibly smart and effective move by Team Trump.

I picked Pride, Determination, and Righteous Indignation.

My concern with Trump is that these are all about him and not about America. Where is his message about making America great? It can’t be all revenge, the sin of pride, determination to punish his enemies, and righteous indignation, right? Where does that leave us?

This campaign is not about making anything great again, let alone our country. Does he even talk about that very much these days? Trump’s campaign is about wrath and discord and revenge and payback and retribution, and I’m not comfortable with that, so I am not comfortable with Trump.

He’s walking anger and wrath, and I don’t see this as a positive or as having any hope of bearing positive fruit. How can it?

    Close The Fed in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 25, 2023 at 7:57 pm

    Damn, I didn’t read the fine print and only picked one.

      Go pick more! <3

        henrybowman in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 26, 2023 at 1:51 pm

        I tried that, didn’t work.

        I chose only Threatening… in a righteous sort of way. What I read in his face was, “When this clownshow is over, I’m coming back to get all of you.” And I hope he does.

          We already know that he won’t. He’ll pull the same thing he did with Hillary after he won (whinge on about how she needs to “heal” and she’s really one of his bestest friends ever and he loves her and Bill so much).

          He only cares about winning, and once he does that, to him, everything’s rosy again, and he can let bygones be bygones. That’s his pattern. He’s never deviated from it. Not once. And he won’t this time, either.

          henrybowman in reply to henrybowman. | August 28, 2023 at 5:08 pm

          Hillary “only” hurt America, as an abstraction.
          The people he’s gunning for now caused him personal pain and expense.
          I suspect that will make a big difference.

    Close The Fed in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 25, 2023 at 7:58 pm

    Wrath and revenge are far underrated. If he obtains revenge against the deep state, he frees us all.

      Un-huh. And he does that how given that he pretty much rolled over and let them rub his tum tum last time?

        Close The Fed in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 25, 2023 at 8:10 pm

        I support DeSantis. That said, I do believe the man has the intelligence and will to do better the second time, with no prospect of re-election in particular.

        I have read some of his books. If someone stabs him, he gets payback.

          Yeah, I am good with him having a spine of steel. You’ve also probably noted that he doesn’t let his people hang out to dry or get them indicted or worry about them leaking or turning on him. DeSantis doesn’t demand loyalty without returning that loyalty, and that’s a huge plus over Trump who demands loyalty but has no sense of loyalty to his own people. DeSantis can get the very best people to work in his admin. Trump? He’ll get below the kraken level crap he had the first time (and that was already scraping the bottom of the barrel).

          Team Trump kept tweeting that the GOP debate was about jockeying for Trump’s VP. There was only one person on that stage who is weak and spineless and malleable and useless enough to accept that job: Nikki Haley. And honestly, she came out stronger than I thought, so even she may reject a slot as Trump’s VP.

          Trump is toxic. EVERYONE knows it except the Only Trumpers who huddle in their nutter holes and imagine all of America is just like them. We are not.

          DeSantis will disappoint you all you needed to see was when he couldn’t even hold a hand up at the debate without permission

          He’s being handled and the world is too big a stage for him

          henrybowman in reply to Close The Fed. | August 26, 2023 at 1:52 pm

          “There was only one person on that stage who is weak and spineless and malleable and useless enough to accept that job”
          Not counting the one who accepted it the first time?

          LOL! But, yeah, there is no way Pence would agree to be his VP again. A lot’s changed and happened since 2015.

          henrybowman in reply to Close The Fed. | August 28, 2023 at 5:05 pm

          The bigger question is whether Trump would be oblivious enough to ask him again. The man’s choices of “allies” are a complete and utter puzzlement to me.
          Ronna. McCarthy. Sessions. Barr. Wray.
          It’s as if Julius Caesar had hand-picked all his senators.

      jhkrischel in reply to Close The Fed. | August 26, 2023 at 8:41 am

      We could also call “wrath and revenge” justice.

      Ds deserve to be punished. They should be humiliated. Their favorite institutions should be dismantled. Their rules and regulations should be eliminated. They should lose their fortunes, and their fame, and be embarrassed for the disasters they brought to this republic in the name of “orange man bad”.

      And maybe, just maybe, in an act of contrition impossible to believe at this moment, Ds will apologize, repent, and atone for their sins.

    You have not been listening. He has talked about what he would do, and even how, as he speaks about the injustice. It’s frankly insulting to maintain it’s all about him. As he has said many times, he had a great life, and did not need this. But he saw what was happening and acted. And look at the result. Look at the reaction. He and his family has taken a huge beating. It’s not to say he has no ego. They all do. But when he says America First, it’s more than a slogan.

      healthguyfsu in reply to oldschooltwentysix. | August 25, 2023 at 9:19 pm

      He talked about what he would do for his first time and he did almost none of them.

      At this point, his truth is not reality.

        Sorry, healthyguyfsu, just a tiny quibble. Trump did NONE of them, not with any lasting value because he relied on his Obama pen (but not phone because Trump alienated everyone in Congress).

        He’s running on his 2016 agenda because he couldn’t do any of it, but we are expected to believe he just needs one more chance? Duuuude!?! That works with friends and spouses (to a point), but this is OUR COUNTRY. Not your day job to screw up and then tell us all the reasons you couldn’t get it done (it’s someone else’s fault, so I can’t fix it anyway because those big baddies are still there making me fail, making me suck). Uh huh. How will you get it done THIS TIME?

        Waiting . . . .

          “Trump did NONE of them, not with any lasting value”

          Supreme Court. Exxagerated claims affect credibility and reflect prejudice.

          Too bad Trump did not get the extra 4 years to try and cement the policies he was putting into place. Too bad that pandemic thing happened and permitted legalized cheating, even as he exceeded the performance of any incumbent ever. Guess we will never know what would have happened in the second term. Yes, he deserves all the blame!

          Oh come on, any Republican president would have selected right-leaning jurists for SCOTUS. Indeed, some would have chosen even more originaliists than Trump did. While I’m glad he appointed conservatives, this is literally nothing any other Republican would have done.

          How does another term “cement” rule by fiat (i.e. executive orders)? Not sure our government works like you think it does. But another term would just mean that four more years before a Democrat president erased every single EO Trump ever wrote. And just like that, Trump’s “accomplishments” are gone. Not “cemented,” gone.

          And yeah, about that pandemic. Too bad Trump followed Fauci like a pet puppy and rolled over to have his belly rubbed by a Democrat hacktivist media who hates him when he wanted to do the right thing (open by Easter). Trump’s instincts are right, but he sold out our entire nation so the media wouldn’t “write bad stories” about him. If you’re good with that, that’s fine. I’m not. And I never will be.

          As to all the pandemic-related Democrat cheating? You have ONE person to blame for that, Trump. He knew it was happening and chose to do nothing. He knew we were sinking economically but instead of opening back up, he chose to use taxpayer money to pay workers to sit at home. Heck, DeSantis had to REJECT federal moneys from the Trump trillions because our workers were earning more to do NOTHING than to work. DeSantis fixed that in Florida. Not Trump. Trump was the one paying people more to not work than to work. It was disgusting and unAmerican. And my governor stopped it in our state because it was hurting our economy, our state, and more importantly our American spirit. Paid more to sit on our fat ass than work? That’s American HOW?

          But yeah, you keep those Trump goggles on, and take a few more Trump vax boosters while you’re at it. Totally safe. The BEST vax in the HISTORY OF THE WORLD. Utterly useless, but hey, get that 7th booster now, it’s both Trump AND Biden approved. What can go wrong?

          So some exxageration is better than others. It’s not the only time. Who said anything about fiats? Why introduce irrelevant things. You want to support DeSantis, who cares? The point was that the negative judgment does not adequately take into account what was actually going on, and blames him for it. There was an elephant in the room. Not to mention, the hindsight is amazing. Believe what you like, but that does not make it persuasive. People may simply believe that, all things considered, Trump is best equipt to handle the situation we are in, and the actions of his enemies show what he’s been saying, concerning himself and them.

          MarkSmith in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 26, 2023 at 8:26 am

          As to all the pandemic-related Democrat cheating? You have ONE person to blame for that, Trump. He knew it was happening and chose to do nothing.

          A very simple minded statement that does not understand the complex political working of the government including shadow and contractors.

          Trump’s existence “alienated” congress.
          The republicans were gunning for him before he was even inaugurated.

        Zero sum games. He led the country in the right direction in spite of the resistance, and brought the wolves out of the shadows, but gets little credit for much of anything. Maybe your truth is the one challenging reality. It glosses over so much.

        gonzotx in reply to healthguyfsu. | August 25, 2023 at 10:16 pm

        Your confused , take a look at the list of things accomplished on his website

        Fuzzy gets all shaved when I post his accomplishments so you’ll have to do the work yourself

          healthguyfsu in reply to gonzotx. | August 25, 2023 at 11:43 pm

          Lol…reposting his propaganda isn’t work…it’s carrying water and it’s irrelevant in this case if you had comprehended the conversation.

          I’m referring specifically to kept campaign promises pre-2016 since the post I responded to was about his campaign promises this time around. It is you that are confused.

          Danny in reply to gonzotx. | August 27, 2023 at 11:37 am

          The biggest achievement was failure to win the popular vote in 2016, while barely carrying three uncontested swing states Hillary thought was out of play, and losing both popular and electoral college vote in 2020.

          Nearly everything on his achievement list is something Romney would have done to like lowering taxes, and raising military spending.

          If you like the traditional Bush era priorities admit it, stop lying to yourself (and no you are not a pacifist if you murder Russian soldiers unprovoked with no declaration of war).

          You’re right. I think even Romney would have been talked into thinking it was a great idea to send out checks haphazardly (with Trump’s signature front and center, because branding is more important than governing to this clown) . . . many of which were sent to dead people, prisoners in state and federal prisons, and a whole host of fake crap that the Biden admin is now trying to retrieve. That whole thing was stupid. Helping people is one thing, but literally paying them more to sit on their lazy asses was a huge problem.

          My corner store here in Free Florida (deepest red Florida) couldn’t keep employees because they were getting more money from Trump’s largess with our taxpayer money to stay home than to work. It got so bad, they were only open for spurts of time (most of which was just the manager carrying the whole load). So we went from a 24-corner store to a ‘well, maybe it will be open at noon’ store. It was outrageous. And that poor woman was trying to hire people, but Trump paid them more to STAY HOME.

          This was a nationwide problem because of Trump. He screwed the pooch so hard on that call that many governors, including mine (DeSantis), refused future “covid stimulus” for “unemployment” because all it did was “stimulate” people to stay home and collect money for nothing. That is NOT America. That is utter crazy bullcrap.

        healthguyfsu in reply to healthguyfsu. | August 25, 2023 at 11:41 pm

        Are you conceding that the only thing Trump did of any lasting relevance was appoint SCOTUS justices? That’s actually a pretty damning concession for your favorite candidate.

        What about the border wall? What about Hilary? What about reducing the deficit?

          No. What a predictable response. The way to show that “none” is wrong is to show ONE example.

          healthguyfsu in reply to healthguyfsu. | August 26, 2023 at 12:18 pm

          That doesn’t carry weight in any grown up conversation. Sorry. Ben Shapiro effectively defeated this tactic when Dems try to use it for abortion.

          The idea that one exception carries a change of the rule is tenuous at best. Shapiro countered Dem abortion arguments easily by essentially saying that if we concede cases of rape and danger to mother for abortion, will abortion activists agree that the rest are immoral and should be banned? Of course, the answer is no.

          You are using a version of the same tactic here. And you also dont’ answer for any of the promises he did not keep, which are legion.

          You are no one to be speaking about grown ups. The idea was not to create an exhaustive list, only to disprove the absolute statement made. Any grown up would see that!

          What about the, blah, blah, blah. Maybe you should address the substance of the remark. Maybe too grown up?

          When all you look for is bad stuff, funny how that’s all you see. Some grown up advice for you.

      I think fuzzy should return to her “unboxing” instead of her constant drumming hatred s for President Trump

      It’s not working and little d ain’t going to win

    I think he looks just like Jack Nicholson before he broke down that door in “The Shining”. My grandchildren told me he looked scary. Not presidential. I don’t want the next administration to be all about retribution.

      nordic prince in reply to RNJD. | August 26, 2023 at 3:52 pm

      If there is no punishment for the Ds behaving badly (stealing elections, persecuting their political enemies – which includes any and all who are not flaming leftists, not just politicians), then expect more of the same.

      Retribution may not be desired, but it may be necessary.

I’m sure the left would have liked it better if he’d gone for the Nick Nolte look.

I would have chosen smug, if that was a choice. Should probably rename it his (s)mug shot.

the dims give the world’s thugs and dictators all the cover they will need for a while

“oh, lookee, totes cool to lock up our enemies ”

makes Putin seem sane

Rupert having a bad week

first , his debate flops and now his own post debate poll shows Trump at 61, Duh at 9

what in the hell is the rational here ?

Suburban Farm Guy | August 25, 2023 at 8:08 pm

Poor Lefties. Didn’t get their way. They should get some coloring books at a safe space

Some of the defendants are using their mug shots for their Twitter profile pic.

Trump is selling campaign merchandise with his. Based!

If you are looking for the “thug” face, absent the gang and face tattoos, then this look is what you are wanting to convey to American voters. It will invigorate the Trump base, but alienate all the Independents and moderate Democrats that Trump needs to win in the general election. Chalk this up as a big win for the mainstream liberal media and the leftists who want so badly for Trump to win the Republican primary and then lose in the general election. As usual, Trump falls right into their trap,

When I saw it I thought that Trump has girded his loins and woe be unto Fani

Last time he had this look was the day he decided to run for POTUS the first time – when he was at the National Correspondents Association Dinner and was getting roasted by the “comedians” that were supposed to be roasting Obama.

Do the authorities not allow people to smile in mugshots? Because, if allowed, that’s the look I would’ve gone with.

    henrybowman in reply to guyjones. | August 26, 2023 at 2:09 pm

    The DMV doesn’t anymore, at least in my state.
    Glasses off, too, even if you’re restricted to driving with them.

Where is crime boss and dotard-marionette, Biden’s mug shot, for running a multi-decade, $20 million-plus family racketeering and influence-peddling scheme?

Subotai Bahadur | August 25, 2023 at 9:10 pm

As an addition to my poll votes, let me say that his picture conveys something else. Conservatives are all too used to being promised that sogannante conservative politicians will actually stand and fight for what we sent them to do and then being betrayed time after time. This picture symbolizes in a lot of peoples’ minds a hope for an actual willingness to fight for us and not cave.

We are kind of in what seems to be the end of the constitutional era and we have no real rule of law for everyone, so it may not work. And if it does not work, the modern American experiment at peaceful government transitions may revert to the untidy norm of human history. The picture implies that there is at least a slight hope that my grandchildren will grow up in a better world.

Subotai Bahadur

I chose anger, determination, and posturing. I think all three are fair assessments but it is subjective, of course.

I had no problem with his look in the shot as he is being politically prosecuted.

No choice for trolling so I chose posturing.
Why does my screen keyboard keep closing?

“Martin Luther King 👑 Posed For 29 MUG Shots “

I wonder if the Professor would have posted such a silly post if that was little d being photographed for the Georgia DA?

The look of a dissident.

Trump opted for the power stare, unlike Tom DeLay

Fuzzy Slippers in reply to Close The Fed. | August 25, 2023 at 8:21 pm

You know I
Was on another site a few weeks ago talking about how incredulous it is that legalinsurrection administration is so anti President Trump, and a poster said they use to post here but found fuzzys constant damming of President Trump disgusting and unfounded, and they felt you had a great deal of influence on the Professor

I said the professor is a grown ass man and makes his own decisions, wrong as they may be with regards to President Trump

They said it went way back with you and your hatred for President Trump

I certainly believe them

    thad_the_man in reply to gonzotx. | August 26, 2023 at 12:02 pm


    It’s an ancient of books and movies ( for example Anne of Green Gables ), Girls real hates boy.

    Sorry Fuzzy and he’s not gonna let her go if can avoid it. You’ll just have to find some else to grab your ehhm.

    nordic prince in reply to gonzotx. | August 26, 2023 at 4:02 pm

    Yeah, the way Fuzzy (along with a few others) constantly snipe at Trump and Trump supporters is rather tiresome. Boring, but predictable. The shame is that such behavior is really beneath them.

    I don’t care who you are, ad hominem is childish and just plain lazy. Nothing says “Vote for Candidate X!” like mocking Candidate Y and his supporters.

    LOL. More of the “that one neighbor everyone hates” sniping. ‘I don’t like to tell tales or start rumors, you KNOW me, but I heard . . . . ‘ We’ve all had that neighbor. And nobody likes her. (And yes, it’s ALWAYS a her.)

    This may come as a surprise to you, but I am allowed to have my own opinion, and I am allowed to state it. Why is that a problem for you? Do you think I should be “cancelled” because I don’t support Trump in the primary? What a horrible human being you are.

LI sure is “choppy” with comments.
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    DSHornet in reply to scooterjay. | August 26, 2023 at 11:20 am

    Try using Brave browser. I’m doing it more and more on my phone.

      nordic prince in reply to DSHornet. | August 26, 2023 at 4:06 pm

      Brave exhibited the same behavior.

      Brave also used to block the ads that appeared within the content, but lately they’ve been showing up, as well as tiny box ads at the bottom… the annoying kind that are so small that (on a phone) you accidently click on the stupid ad when you’re merely trying to close the damn box. 😡

Donald Trump’s Georgia mugshot has been viewed more times than the 1969 moon landing, and maybe more times than the moon itself. Trump used it to herald his return to Twitter, with the motto of “Never Surrender!” at 9:38 pm New York time, and it was viewed 100 million times before dawn.

I’m believing the 200million plus Tucker views

My man is a rock star

It really is a Rorschach’s test and can be influenced! At first look I saw the sloping shoulders, the head slumped forward, and tilted down, the eyebrows slightly covering the eyes, and the flat unsmiling expression and interpreted it as a tired, broken-down old man. After hearing all of the praise for him being “determined” and whatnot I see a little bit of that.

Well it’s definitely a Rorschach’s test, and that test tells more about the viewers than the picture itself. And so we find out more about Fuzzy than DJT. To Fuzzy, who admits she hasn’t been listening to any of what DJT has to say, DJT’s plans are only about revenge, not good policy. Never mind that he was always about good policy, and vigorous in pursuit of it. Also, he accomplished noting in office but getting competent judges, and any Repub could have done that. Also, it’s Trump’s fault the Dems threw a hissy fit, not to mention riots, ending the notion of peaceful transition to a Republican Presidency. And apparently it’s Trump’s fault we have such embarrassingly bad policy under Biden, too.

So, if you shut your ears and stomp your feet, you can be deaf to what happened. How is that?

A little blast from the past. We’ve been dealing with a campaign of slander that morphed into censorship, as well. There is a source for the poison in our society, and it is not him.

This is a verified email from from Patrick Healy, National Political Correspondent, New York Times, to members of the Clinton campaign. Circulation information is available, as well.

“We’re told that President Clinton (like Mrs. Clinton and some other Dems) thinks that Trump would be a formidable opponent in the general election, and that Dems are in a form of denial if they dismiss Trump as a joke who would be easily defeated in November. President Clinton, like others, thinks that Trump has his finger on the pulse of the electorate’s mood and that only a well-financed, concerted campaign portrayed him as dangerous and bigoted will win what both Clintons believe will be a close November election.”

“We’re told that President Clinton (like Mrs. Clinton and many other Dems) thinks the single greatest weapon against Trump is Trump’s own instinct to make outrageous, divisive, even hateful comments that can come across as unpresidential. He, Mrs. Clinton, and the campaign all agree that they will need to seize on opportunities to paint Trump as extremist and recklessly impulsive.”

Notice that the Clintons thought that Trump would be a formidable candidate, and so they chose NOT to confront him on the issues, but use scare-mongering based on twisted versions of things he said. This explains why we were talking about sex instead of policy during that election, even though Mrs. Clinton had spent all of her political life loudly maintaining that Bill Clinton’s sex life was a private matter.

My vindicated take on the leaks was that they originated, not with Russia, but with horrified Democrats who saw what was happening. And since the Democrats at the national level have no limits, no respect for either our Constitution, voters, or the rule of law, we have lawbreakers taking a mug shot of a Presidential candidate, thinking it’s a trophy.

And Fuzzy fell for it, hook, line, and sinker.

    wendybar in reply to Valerie. | August 26, 2023 at 9:38 am

    Add another 500 likes to this comment!!!

    GravityOpera in reply to Valerie. | August 26, 2023 at 12:26 pm

    “To Fuzzy, who admits she hasn’t been listening to any of what DJT has to say,”

    After her getting locked up, Mexico paying for the wall, the Second Amendment Coalition ending the assault on our rights, the best people being hired (like nominating Canterbury for ATF director), and the national debt being paid off we are tired of winning. Since we’re tired of winning we no longer care what he has to say. Or we’re tired of listening to a liar and no longer care except for the game of spotting the inconsistencies.

    “We’re told that President Clinton (like Mrs. Clinton and some other Dems) thinks that Trump would be a formidable opponent in the general election”

    If you think the last four elections are indicative of a formidable opponent to Democrats then I have a bridge to sell you. He did poorly in 2016 then lost to Biden in 2020 and Republicans have lost ground is the federal Congress, state governors, and state legislatures.

    henrybowman in reply to Valerie. | August 26, 2023 at 2:20 pm

    “To Fuzzy, who admits she hasn’t been listening to any of what DJT has to say, DJT’s plans are only about revenge, not good policy.”
    But some of us believe that revenge against Marxists IS good policy.

    “Vigorous pursuit” of policy is exactly meaningless if there is nothing to show for it, right? I tried really really hard, but yeah, I still didn’t build the wall (and get Mexico to pay for it), prosecute Hillary (he’d not be having ANY of these problems if he had, but he was so worried about her, his long-time friend, that he decided she needed “time to heal,” despite her clear crimes, up to and possibly including treason.), repeal ObamaCare, and on and on.

    And yeah, ANY Republican would have chosen the same SCOTUS justices Trump did. You get that, right? He got the list for the DC establishment, so who do you think a Republican would NOT have seated? And remember, it’s entirely possible that an actual conservative would have chosen even more originalist thinkers (we’ve already seen Trump’s picks choke on rulings, right?).

    But no, I did not say Trump is to blame for Biden’s policies. He IS, however, to blame for the FACT that his “legacy” (except for the Abraham Accords) has been undone, destroyed, trashed, rolled back by Biden. It’s Trump’s fault because he couldn’t get anything done and couldn’t work with Congress. He didn’t drain the swamp, he trotted around like Fauci’s pet and deferred to the genocidal gnome on covid policy (unforgivable!). But no, Trump is not to blame what for Biden has DONE, just what Trump handed him to undo (the vast majority of Trump’s successes).

    And finally, no, it’s not Trump’s fault the Democrats took advantage of his incompetence in office. Of course they would do that. The key is to ensure that we don’t elect another incompetent (or the same one) to office again.

    He can’t win. And if he did, he would do everything exactly the same (with a third-rate staff this time because NO ONE of quality will work for him; most of his team was second-rate last time).

    He has not acknowledged any failing or fault, and he has not said he would do anything different this time (with far weaker support on his side and a far more determined and emboldened deep state). So you are doubling down on stupid. That’s your prerogative, but don’t attack me for pointing out that you are doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

If you have the desire to take a poll asking what Trump’s look conveys…

…then you already know what it conveys.

I didn’t take a close look before because it is only a picture, but doing so now I think Kim Carnes should make a song “He’s got Singletary eyes.”

didn’t consult the available options–see “outrage” that the ” legal system ” has been so thoroughly perverted / corrupted that an incident like this has actually occurred in our country

he’s human so was never expecting perfection and when tempted to criticize him / his efforts have to consider the organized resistance he’s had to fight (including outright betrayal) going-on for years now and also the state we’d be in if clinton had been “elected” instead–day and night, literally

based on the last few years, am no longer certain that an “election” can right the ship, and of course that’s by design–regardless of his personal failings (and have a few myself) cannot vote for a democrat and expect us to remain a free country

I kinda thought his look said FU.

Trump’s “official” response to Fani:

DeSantis supporter, will vote for Trump if he is GOP nominee.

I don’t think the mug shot matters, but…

Seems like he’s making a face (anger), and looking down (maybe that was the photographer’s doing). I would have preferred a straight-on, neutral expression. I think of the 18 mug shots I saw, I liked the black guy’s best. I think his name is Harrison Ford.

I read daily the county police reports website. Maybe half or more of the mugshots are smiling. I don’t know if the photographer is telling them to smile. I don’t think being booked on a legitimate charge should be a reason to smile, for a normal (non-criminal) person.

Also, Fuzzy, Haley has said she’s not interested in VP (for whatever that’s worth).

Where is crime boss and dotard-marionette, Biden’s mug shot, for running a multi-decade, $20 million-plus family racketeering and influence-peddling scheme?



Yes this too shall pass
Set jaw steely glare it’s time
You should eat more bran

Maybe because it’s the people I hang out with, which are Republicans, Democrats, Independents, no party, etc. We get along because we don’t define our friendships by politics, and we don’t exclude people just because we don’t agree 100% with their politics. I like to live my life this way. But when I see Trump’s choice of a mug shot, I guarantee you he is trying to drive away anyone who is not already 100% pro Trump. This is not how you win and election.

Eastwood Ravine | August 26, 2023 at 11:07 pm

Wrath. If the media and the Democrats, but I repeat myself, thought 1994 was the “Election of the Angry White Man”. they haven’t seen anything yet.

“War” – Andrew Breitbart

Subotai Bahadur | August 27, 2023 at 6:01 pm


“Fuzzy Slippers in reply to Ira. | August 27, 2023 at 12:23 pm”

With all due respect I think that we are carefully tapdancing around some realities that absolutely will manifest themselves soon if they are not dealt with before the election, if it still in fact remains possible for us to deal with them. As both a non-credentialed amateur historian all my long life, and someone who has dealt with sociopaths and psychopaths my entire career [which covers both politicians and the felons who were the basis of that career] I see certain base facts. Every society/polity has assumptions that its members/citizens share. Those assumptions may differ from society/polity to society/polity, but it is that sharing of beliefs and assumptions that defines them. Such is referred to as a Social Contract. Our Social Contract originated in the middle east and Mediterranean, via Greece, Rome, their collapse and the rise of the European Enlightenment, as it evolved in England and was focused by the English onto the then largely empty North American continent. Our Social Contract here included the inherent worth of the individual citizen regardless of station, the concept that everyone was subject to the same law equally enforced, the idea that laws to be valid have to be made with the consent of the governed, and be citable and enforced with due process. There are other things too, but look at that list and look at our society/polity today. Feel free to shudder.

1) Today, we are governed by two parties [Democrat and Republican], supposedly different yet they share certain basics that are counter to that Social Contract. Both are corrupt. Both lie blatantly to their voters about what they support and will try to do. Both have absolute contempt for the mass of citizens and their wants and needs. And the Republicans are quite content to be in a subordinate position to the Democrats in all things so long as the graft and corruption continue uninterrupted. The Republicans are willing to go to war with their own voters to prevent the election of someone who will try to enforce the law, the Constitution, and the larger Social Contract. We have seen it repeatedly here in Colorado, now a Democrat state.

2) In our Social Contract, one absolute key is being able to believe in the integrity of the electoral process. If that is rigged, then the concept of a constitutional republic governed by democratic means is moot. It only takes a small percentage of the citizenry to not believe in the integrity of that process to collapse the Social Contract. Look at the last several elections and events going on today.

3) It has happened several times in our country’s past where if the political parties did not match what the people wanted, new parties would arise reflecting the wishes of at least the unhappy citizens, taking their membership from the existing parties. I submit that the TEA Party movement, and MAGA could have become that; and that the current Trump campaign might possibly. However, the current mass media, “the Press” in terms of the First Amendment, are joined ideologically and financially at the hip and all other points of contact with the current party structure above all.

4) Contrary to the statements of political activists of both parties, this election if it happens [there are already murmurings of canceling or postponing due to some emergency or other, and there is the penumbra of fraud now surrounding the electoral process] may well be the last one. Our society is not nearly as strong as it was a generation ago. Economically we are collapsing. We cannot [and choose not to] defend our very borders from invasion. Our enemies do not fear us, and our allies cannot trust us, nor can we them because they are following the same paths we are. The law and the Constitution are ignored at will by the government. And the very concept of equality under the law is being rubbed in our face as a joke.

5) We are, very seriously, in a war for the survival of the very core of what makes us Americans. And it is not being taken seriously at all. Perhaps generations of trying to make sure that no one has any consequences for what they do wrong, either legally or socially is to blame. Donald Trump is far from perfect. However, he is the sharpest blade in our scabbards. He will fight. Including against the Institutional Republicans who will try to stab him in the back. Incidentally, they will do the same thing to DeSantis, but I don’t know if he will fight them back. In this war, we need that. It will be neither operationally nor politically effective to try to win while leaving the enemy unscathed. We are not going to be able to use the Institutional Republican tactic of trying to “nice them into submission”. Politically, we are approaching the equivalent of Meriam’s Corner, which American historians should understand.

6) Although a lot of people seem to assume that if we lose this election, that there always will be a next time despite electoral fraud, I think that a growing percentage of the electorate is figuring out that the Social Contract holding us together is rapidly fraying beyond repair. And as I said, in reference to elections, it only takes a small minority to destroy what it took generations to build. When a Social Contract collapses, it is not simply a matter of going back a short ways and picking up from there. Society has to reconstitute itself from scratch because there is no law, no legitimacy until it is imposed or agreed to. The last 250 or so years of mostly relatively peaceful political change here [Civil War excepted, and the worst wars are civil wars] have been an absolute aberration in human history. What we need to fear and try to avoid is going back to the normal means used by Homo Sapiens throughout its history, while at the same time trying to forestall tyranny.

Subotai Bahadur

    Great comment and much food for thought. Thanks.

    I extend my thanks and respect. I have been trying to remain hopeful; my husband is where you are, although he expresses the idea at a more base level. Do you think the BRICS nations will take over? I have been edgy about the state of affairs for months. When Trump was first indicted in New York by fabrication, I was worried [It is not only Trump issues, but they are the most “in your face” example]. Then the successive indictments and the mug shot… The documents case was a ploy to stop Trump from keeping the Crossfire Hurricane documents. There is not one official who believed that Trump was in danger of selling secrets to the highest bidder. I don’t want to get into the weeds. I will be looking for your comments.

      willow in reply to willow. | August 27, 2023 at 8:52 pm

      My husband is resigned to it and just motors on, focusing on the matters and hand. For me, here is where faith has to control, and I have to keep in mind who I am.

      Subotai Bahadur in reply to willow. | August 27, 2023 at 10:12 pm

      To be honest, we cannot know exactly what the trigger for things hitting the fan will be. We can know from their actions that the Nomenklatura ruling us will not be opposing it, and will probably aid whichever enemy starts things. Our only route at this point is to support a candidate who will fight back until elections are moot. But as we do that, keeping in mind that the Nomenklatura are restricted by neither law nor loyalty to country and people, nor morality and since electoral fraud is the norm now it must be expected. Further, the violent casualty rate amongst those who oppose the Left is high and may begin to climb at any time.

      As you might have guessed from my avatar, I am Chinese in ancestry, Things have an end-of-dynasty feel to them. May the coming American version be an American equivalent of the Han or Ming, and not the Qin.

      Subotai Bahadur

        “Our only route at this point is to support a candidate who will fight back until elections are moot.”


        We should be supporting people who will end up making elections moot, or we should be supporting people who will fight to forestall elections ever being moot?

TY Mr. Bahadur re our social contract which included

the concept that everyone was subject to the same law equally enforced

That one is gone now. Plain as day. I am tired of shuddering.

The memes alone have made this the best media buy for Trump ever.

Ben Shapiro’s “vote” today:
“The goal here is to look as though he is the face of doom and coming for his enemies. And that’s what it looks like.”

I see regret.

I’m a day late and a dollar short with this one, but I really needed the time and rest to sort it out.

So let’s look at some of the things going on behind my Trump leanings:

1) Culture clashes. Read Colin Woodward’s excellent book, America Nations on the different cultures in the US. If you live in a city or have different interactions with people from different backgrounds, you’ll immediately recognize a lot of the friction that’s going.

2) I’m 61 and live in a suburb of one of the cities of the New South. The more the city has expanded to the point of crossing the county line and absorbing what was a small town into a bedroom community as just another neighborhood of the metropolis, the less I recognize it.

3) In my 43 years as a voting citizen, I count 2 good Presidencies; Reagan from 1981-1987 and Trump from 2017-2021. Nixon tried, but the Democrats also were Hell Bent to destroy him.

4) I’ve watched Democrat Presidents and what I’ll call Republic-crat Presidents basically turn JFK’s quote “My fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country” into “What have you done for me lately.?” Ask yourself “How many POTUS’ in my lifetime came into office having a normal amount of money, only to leave rich?”

5) I started the 2016 Campaign as a Carly Fiorina supporter, as we desperately need someone in charge who is”business minded, but she “burned out” before the SC Primary.

6) I chose Trump partially for the reason above, but also equally for his Economic Plan to “on shore” businesses, but also for the through that as he was already rich, he’d not be trying to enrich himself at our expense. I also want him to finish the Border Wall that he campaigned on.

7) Since he won the election, “the Wicked Witch of Chappaqua” has claimed “the election was stolen from her.” Let’s be real: Take an acidic, unfriendly person, who believes she’s better that the rest of the population and let her insult roughly 1/2 of the voting population as belonging to the “basket of deplorables” and then watch as she can’t figure out why they didn’t vote for her..

8) Let a megalomaniacal outgoing POTUS, whose goal was to “fundamentally change” America, who gave more than a few questionable scoldings, using the “race card” and projecting guilt against the majority race, who saw the Election of Trump as something that could undo all of his hard won transformational work, and his desperate need to keep America as he left it, combine it with an angry old bitch who desperately wanted to acquire power, but was scorned by voters and add congressional power that hated Trump’s guts and an ”investigator” who the voters of America had previously rejected as POTUS, and the might of the CIA and FBI to combine to thwart Trump’s Agenda and keep him tied up defending his actions, while wasting Millions of Dollars of taxpayer money.

9) While the hand-wringing, vagina-hat wearing protests and OMG! look what Trump posted! He must “be Incompetent! 25th Amendment!”were annoying to the point of irritation, his policies were pretty good. Energy costs were less.

As a Country, we chose to use all kinds of Energy.

The Economy roared in a way that was comparable with Reagan’s second term.

Moving the US Embassy to Israel to Jerusalem fulfilled an important commitment we made to them and he should have gotten a Nobel Peace Prize for the Abraham Accord.

10) It was apparent to me that there were just too many shall we say “inconsistencies” in the last Presidential Election. If everything was kosher, why all of the need for subterfuge?

So this time, yes, I’m voting for Trump as POTUS again…with hopes that he completes his mission that he first started years ago.

That’s IF they even have an election this time.

And since, if he wins, he’ll be a lame duck, he can’t run for another term. SO, if Trump wins, I want him to shuffle things up. Make a department work or shut it down.

As far as the FBI is concerned, decapitate it above inspector level and move it under the U. S. Marshall’s,

As far as the Department of Justice is concerned, do the same, but since the term “Justice” has been corrupted, what’s left of it becomes the Department of Law Enforcement.

Why should the Government regulate Fuel Economy and why is this under NHTSA?

The EPA has gotten the exhaust emissions as clean as possible for the current technology, especially for Diesel Engines. They need to stop harassing truckers, performance shops, and owners.

AMTRAK has NEVER been profitable, let alone broken even. Why are we subsidizing it ( seems to me if we were going to let the class 1 Railroads merge from 30+ in 1971 to 6 today, we’d have mandated they provide passenger service. If AMTRAK gets ANY FUNDING, IT SHOULD BE TO BUY LOCOMOTIVES AND CARS AND SET NATIONAL PASSENGER TRAIN SCHEDULES and EVEN WORK WITH STATE AND REGIONAL COMMUTER RAILROADS TO COORDINATE WITH THEIR NETWORKS..


Defiance is what I see. And that approach is what this country needs right now, not tomorrow. Trump isn’t going to take it anymore. Neither should we. We should no longer accept a two tiered Justice system, unpunished criminals in the ruling party, enviro and trans decrees from ignorant bureaucrats, Lawfare, policies designed to wreck our economy. Nor should we accept the victim enabling racists who continue to divide us. We must stand up and refute the Niagara of Big Lies that most Media drown us with daily. Trump is defiant and the mugshot expresses that clearly. He will NOT take it anymore. After the Mueller investigation, the 2 congressional impeachments without Senate conviction, the 2020 mockery of an election, and 3 years of corruption and a weakening of the USA under this Biden administration, this toxic disregard of constitutional principles stops here. Here we stand.