The House is Not Pleased With the Senate Over Shutdown Deal
Does the Senate know how to government?
There have been many times when I thought the Senate was getting too big for its britches, often forgetting that they are the second chamber and not the end all, be all of everything in the government. Basic civics teaches us that everything starts in the House of Representatives.
The Senate has received a lot of backlash, especially the Democrats, due to a deal to stop the government shutdown. Now the House has added to the criticism, with House Democrats claiming that the Senate has screwed them with the deal and House Majority Whip Steve Scalise stating that the lawmakers are not bound by the deal.
The fractures within the Democrat Party came into the spotlight after Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (NY) reached an agreement with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (KY) due to a promise “to hold a vote resolving the status of young undocumented immigrants by mid-February.”
The House Democrats
Yesterday, Kemberlee and Professor Jacobson wrote about the implosion within the Democrat party in the Senate after the chamber voted to stop the debate on the bill to end the shutdown and then voted on said bill.
That anger within the party leaked to the House. From Politico:
“They blink, they just do, and it’s unfortunate,” Illinois Rep. Luis Gutiérrez said about Senate Democrats. “I thought they were going to stand tall and firm.”
Rep. Gwen Moore of Wisconsin was blunter at a House Democratic Caucus meeting Monday afternoon. “How do we know the Senate isn’t screwing us?” she said, according to two sources.
“They are,” responded House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.).
During the caucus meeting, the Democrats agreed that “they could shoulder some of the blame in the public eye for shutting down the government.”
Anyone could see the splinter between the Democrats in the chambers before anyone spoke out. Only 16 Senate Democrats voted against the funding bill while 144 House Democrats voted no, which is the majority of the caucus.
House Republicans Also Spoke Out
While the disagreements within the Democrat Party may catch the right’s eye, we shouldn’t ignore the fact that the House Republicans have also spoken out against the Senate deal. Over the weekend, the House Republicans told the Senate Republicans that they “will not be bound by any agreement reached across the Capitol on immigration.” Roll Call continued:
“I don’t see any of our people interested in some half-baked idea that’s produced by a self-appointed group of senators,” Oklahoma Rep. Tom Cole said. “The only thing the speaker tells us that he has signaled to [Senate Majority Leader Mitch] McConnell he can do is change the dates.”
Speaker Paul D. Ryan said Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation” that the shutdown “blew up” bipartisan, bicameral negotiations that were underway on an immigration measure to include border security and a replacement for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, program.
I guess everyone in the House is sick of the disrespect from the Senate because House Republicans haven’t backed down. Scalise had no problem voicing this to Politico:
SCALISE told us the House doesn’t feel at all bound by SENATE MAJORITY LEADER MITCH MCCONNELL’S (R-KY) agreement with Senate Democrats to consider immigration legislation by Feb. 8. “March is really the timeline. … The House wasn’t part of that deal.”
We asked SCALISE if Graham-Durbin — the bipartisan immigration deal du jour — stands a chance, and he said “not in the House.” “It’s good for everybody to put their ideas on paper but ultimately there are things that can and cannot pass in the House. And we have to work through those details and we’re working through them.”
SCALISE said he thought it would “excite our base” if they get a big immigration deal. But he said bluntly: “We’re not going to pass a bill that has amnesty. There are things that would anger our base that I don’t see us passing in the House.”
The Republican Study Committee (RSC), the largest group of House Republicans, has “called for a vote on a conservative border security bill, and warned it would reject a more moderate measure some Senate lawmakers are trying to advance.” The bill from the group protects those in DACA, “but would also implement significant border security and immigration reforms, including an end to chain migration and new funding for a southern border wall.”
The proposal from Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) won’t go anywhere in the house since the conservatives in the House have applied pressure to their leadership not to even bring the bill to the floor. They prefer a vote on the RSC bill.
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Reminds me of the quote attributed to Tip O’Neill, when he was mentoring a young House Democrat: “remember, the House Republicans are our opponent, but the Senate is our enemy.”
The Founders were correct when they set up the Senate so that Senators would be selected by STATE LEGISLATORS, NOT by direct election. We need to go back to that!
Absolutely! Repeal of the 17th Amendment a must.
The only memorable quote I recall from Tip O’Neill is “Glug, glug, glug.”
President Trump is driving a wedge into the democrat party like John Henry with his sledge hammer. (h/t: @notjayfivekille)
And hopefully lots of wooden stakes driven into Dem too!
Wouldn’t lots of large slivers be more entertaining? It just occurred to me that Trump’s tweets amount to the same thing.
With this and Chuckie Schumer deliberately trying to Kill DACA (imo) they’re gonna be MAD as in the British usage of that word!
Yippee! More Winning!!!!!!
The House should pass a bill, approving DACA, and all of Trump’s add-ons. Then the Dems will be forced to vote against it. Let them run on their anti-DACA votes.
That only works when you know your base would be in favor of the bill if the Democrats actually voted for it. As the vast majority of the base does not favor amnesty (AKA “protects those in DACA”), the GOPe would be too smart by half to try that. Seems like a plan to get amnesty for the DACA “kids” (up to 30 something) while trying to shield from blowback from the base by claiming that they thought sure the Dems would vote against it.
I am beginning to believe that there will be NO Daca bill of any kind this year – the different sides simply hate each other too much to ever compromise on the issue. They will both believe they can take it into the 2018 election, and only after that will something be resolved.
Meanwhile, I see a series of 30 day CR’s being put in place for the rest of this year. It’s not that anyone wants that; but the shutdown failed, so no one will try that again, and they won’t compromise. So what else is there to do?
McConnell could nuke the filibuster in the Senate, but that would probably not work either since Flake, Collins, and Graham would join the other side and vote against him. On this issue, Dems have a bare majority in the Senate, and Republicans only control the House. Only an election can untie this knot.
No, no. I’ll respectfully disagree. Der Donald wants an amnesty. There’s a strong current of public opinion (with which I adamantly disagree) for DREAMER amnesty.
2018 is mostly ahead of us. There will be a bill. It WILL include an amnesty, whatever ELSE it includes.
Discounting Democrats, I’m not as sure as you that there is a strong current of opinion for amnesty. I will stipulate there is an MSM created public replying to polls which gives that appearance. I could be wrong but I strongly suspect that the way the question is written, when combined with people not wanting to appear “heartless”, results in majorities supposedly favoring another amnesty.
Those polls are faked.
As faked as the ones in 2016 saying Queen Hillary would win.
Poll: Most Americans Support Trump’s Conditions for DACA Deal
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an on-line poll…
that reinforces everything I’ve said…
but isn’t a “fake poll”.
Yeah. You’re an idiot. If you believe that DREAMERS, once granted amnesty, will never vote, you’re a double idiot.
I’m for amnesty for the DACA kids as long as it includes one provision: They can’t vote, ever.
Dems are already using them to cast illegal votes.
Only one solution: Deportation and no immigration evah for them or any of their extended family forevah!
Why would they not have the same ability to immigrate within the law as anyone? All they have to do is return to their native country and being the process.
“Dems are already using them to cast illegal votes.”
Different problem. If any vote illegally, they should be prosecuted the same as anyone else, legal or illegal.
“Why would they not have the same ability to immigrate within the law as anyone?”
That would be the whole “not rewarding felons” thing NeverTrumpers can never understand.
If they’re a convicted felon, they can’t immigrate legally, you poor moron. You just keep stepping on your own dick to troll me.
I only see this happening if Trump can glean a large share of the eventual credit for a legal DACA.
…as if he wouldn’t take it in any event…!!!
Just like Der Donald didn’t want to run and win?
I’ve never made any such claim, liar.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
What the hell are the likes of McConnell doing in the Senate THIRTY THREE years?? Schumer, TWENTY years. Leahy, FORTY THREE YEARS!
What should we expect, other than a swamp??
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