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Lawrence O’Donnell still claiming Zimmerman suspicious of Trayvon Martin’s skin color

Lawrence O’Donnell still claiming Zimmerman suspicious of Trayvon Martin’s skin color

“skin color is what aroused George Zimmerman’s suspicions”

Those of you who actually have followed the evidence in the Zimmerman case, both before and during trial, know that every aspect of the racial narrative put forth by the Martin family attorneys, Al Sharpton, other agitators, and the media, has either been debunked explicitly or has nothing other than conjecture behind it.

NBC famously doctored the 911 tape to falsely present Zimmerman as suspicious of Martin’s race, but that was debunked. There were claims that Zimmerman muttered the word “coon” under his breath, but that was debunked even by the prosecution’s own audio experts. Zimmerman had no history of racial antagonism and much history of just the opposite, and himself was multiracial.

Yet that has not stopped Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC — who once disputed Zimmerman had a bloody nose — from continuing to claim otherwise.

On July 23, 2013, after the verdict, O’Donnell responded to comments by Bill O’Reilly by making the following statement:

“There was plenty of evidence that Trayvon Martin’s skin color is what aroused George Zimmerman’s suspicions of him,” O’Donnell said. “It was indeed Trayvon Martin’s skin color that made him – in O’Reilly’s words – ‘a stranger to Zimmerman.’”

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Just more cheapening of the public discourse at MSNBC.

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Call them on it. Every time.

NFS@LindenForum | August 7, 2013 at 8:51 pm

I worked late the other night. A man was also working late and apparently left the building at the same time I did. He was a little behind me. I’m a white woman, he was white man. Nevertheless, I looked over my shoulder as we walked in lockstep. He knew I was profiling him. Damn straight. Everyone profiles another, not based on color, but based on the person behind them and whether that person can overcome you.

MSLSD should be off the air but now, no?

    RickCaird in reply to NFS@LindenForum. | August 7, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    Of course everyone profiles. What’s more, profiling is not a crime. I never understood why Corey ever put “profiling” into the charging document.

      Observer in reply to RickCaird. | August 8, 2013 at 8:10 am

      That’s life in Obamaworld. The TSA doesn’t search young Muslim men at airports, because that might be offensive to Muslims. Better to strip-search toddlers and elderly cancer patients. Sure, they pose no threat, and no toddlers or elderly cancer patients have ever hijacked or tried to blow up an airliner, but it’s more politically correct to harass them than it is to acknowledge where the real threat is coming from.

      Same with George Zimmerman. There had been 14 prior burglaries and home invasions in his neighborhood, almost all of which had been committed by young black men. But George was not supposed to be suspicious when he saw a young black man he didn’t recognize, walking around in his neighborhood after dark, in the rain, looking into homes. No, George shouldn’t have been “profiling” people who looked and acted like the criminals who had been victimizing his neighbors; he should have been on the look-out for red-headed dwarves instead. Sure, no red-headed dwarves had burglarized or invaded homes in his neighborhood, but that didn’t matter. The important, and politically correct, thing was not acknowledging who was actually responsible for the crimes in the neighborhood: young black males.

        Phillep Harding in reply to Observer. | August 8, 2013 at 11:41 am

        As I recall, the Palestinians had several people behind each bombing: A money man, a bomb maker, a recruiter/handler, and a sucker. The sucker could be anyone, even an unknowing infant or someone in a wheelchair who left his wheelchair unguarded for a few minutes the day before.

          Chem_Geek in reply to Phillep Harding. | August 8, 2013 at 4:16 pm

          “The sucker could be anyone, even an unknowing infant or someone in a wheelchair who left his wheelchair unguarded for a few minutes the day before.”

          Whaaat? Unpossible! Only swarthy Muslim-looking young males EVER carry bombs, which is why we MUST give them and only them colonoscopies whenever they (the swarthy Muslim-looking) dare to try to travel. /sarcasm

    cwillia1 in reply to NFS@LindenForum. | August 8, 2013 at 7:28 am

    As a white man I encounter situations where a woman might be wary of my behavior. I change what I do to eliminate the possibility that the woman might be uncomfortable. This is what sensible men and women do. Of course people profile and people adjust their behavior so that their intentions will not be misunderstood.

I hope that Zimmerman’s lawyers are aware of this kind of libelous statement. They need to sue Lawrence O’Donnell.

    Old0311 in reply to Aussie. | August 7, 2013 at 9:38 pm

    If Zimmerman’s lawyers sued every dumb ass like O’Donnell, they would be busy until Kingdom Come

      Exiliado in reply to Old0311. | August 8, 2013 at 10:32 am

      Busy making money for themselves and for their client. How can that be a bad thing?

      Then good, they should go make lots of money from these networks and teach them a lesson.

      O’Donnell deserves to be personally sued, along with his network.

MouseTheLuckyDog | August 7, 2013 at 9:21 pm

Why did Pat Moynihan ever give him a job?

Carol Herman | August 7, 2013 at 9:29 pm

The media is still heavily invested in the lie!

Trayvon was a thug. Farley Ridiculous Half Nelson was appointed a judge for political reasons ONLY! And, she hated Don West. (This was never explained).

Sometimes I think you can do a funny Broadway musical just using Dr. Bao’s testimony. It could be called “I don’t remember.” But I have notes. Don’t do hands, because I don[‘t have a camera on the ceiling.

And, you know what the big unknown is? Floriduh happens to be infamous for rioting that breaks out in “Overton” (if that’s what its name was. Or is. Where it doesn’t take much for Blacks to burn down stores. Because they don’t own them. And, they “forget” what it’s like to have to go ten miles “out of town” to buy beer.

Will the world ever forget Dee-Dee? (For one night she increased Piers Morgan’s ratings … as if she could do real voodoo. And, he actually found an audience of significant size.) So what?

I think, too, the Zimmerman’s still get donations from strangers. And, I think we’ll soon be back in a Floriduh courtroom, again. Because the State is taking his wife, Shellie to court on charges of “perjury.” When she was questioned about the amount of money that had come in from strangers. And, she said “Ask George’s brother, Robert. For he knows.) Those nitwits in Floriduh want to get their hands on this money! Maybe, we’ll hear more when this gets “heard?” Maybe, Floriduh can show off more idiots than just BDLR, Mantie, with his tufted hair. And, the good looking “Guy.”

The only reason this hasn’t been splashing around the media, is they’ve thrown themselves over the story … hoping nothing of it comes out.

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT …

    “Floriduh happens to be infamous for rioting that breaks out in ‘Overton’ “

    What are you on about this time?

    The last riots in Overtown were something like 25-30 years ago.

    Continually calling us “Floriduh when you yourself can’t seem to write a single comment without at least one egregious error of fact seems a little myopic.

O’Donnell consistently sets new lows for journalism, then fails to achieve them.

O’Donnell is a pompous hack.

“skin color is what aroused George Zimmerman’s suspicions”

Of course that is just unsubstantiated conjecture but there is one thing that should be obvious to anyone who looks at the facts.

George Zimmerman was justified to shot to protect himself when he learned the true content of Trayvon’s character.

They never let go do they?

No matter how clear the evidence they pursue their agenda based on race baiting and other falsehoods.

That’s why I NEVER watch anything NBC, ABC or CBS and seldom CNN.

You’ll not get a fair shake from any of ’em…

Right Lawrence…It had to be Martin’s color that aroused his suspicions, not the fact he was wandering around people’s yards on a dark rainy night in an area that had had many break-ins. ‘Cause speaking as a white guy, if I see another white person in my yard at night, I think it’s no problem, I like white strangers near my home at night! It’s only when they have dark skin that I’m concerned. Seriously, can’t these folks understand that any unknown person in those circumstances might be a threat and needs to be queried? I think they’ve never been victims of a crime, or they’d understand it’s not the color, it’s what someone is doing that matters.

Waiting for James O’Keefe to setup a hypocrisy sting on this overpaid race-baiting talking head who lives in a fortified multimillion dollar residences that is rigged to call in the calvary the instance it spots a black kid in a hoodie slinking around the gate.

O’Donnell is from the school of pandering. He’s obligated to talk the way he does because his network operates by the numbers. They need an audience. Their voice is styled to bring in an audience. It’s very obvious the production is manipulated and flattering to the unintelligent – those who get satiated by drama. It’s emotional porn.

I disagree. It was skin color. If Zimmerman had been black, there would have been no problem.

MSNBC ought to be worried enough about their existing liability, let alone letting this hack continue.

You know we shouldn’t overlook that Trayvon was on the phone with Dee-Dee.

Do you need to be hit over the head with clues? Trayvon wanted to surprise Zimmerman. And, he did so by coming out of nowhere and punching him in the nose!

And, the State! Going out of its way to say the screamer on the tape was Trayvon’s voice. Pray tell, how?

His mom, Sybrina, had nothing to do with raising him. She toodled off when he was 3. How did the dad gain custody? Was Sybrina a crack head?

How many ways till Sunday did Dee-Dee LIE on the stand?

And, how about the “expert medical examiner” who remembers NOTHING! He could’a done the autopsy, but he said he remembered NOTHING! And, the judge didn’t put him in jail, or rate him “a hostile witness.” How would Farley Ridiculous Half Nelson even know anything? She seemed oblivious. And, after the jury came back and TOLD HER their verdict was NOT GUILTY … what did that female Farley impersonator say to Zimmerman? “Leave now. You have no further business here.”

Gee, Floriduh-indians must be so proud. Their real estate is underwater. They’ve lost jobs to other states … But, hey, their court system is still a joke. (Remember 2000?)

I spent most of my life in the sales and marketing part of the newspaper industry. I once had over 500 newspaper clients. I got out of it when it began to go south with huge circulation declines. Factual reporting disappeared. Managing editors rubber stamped everything.

I have followed MSM reporting of this case since it happened. The Conservative Tree House was the first blog I found that began to look into the facts. Later other blogs began to do the same, like this one, Mike McDaniel, Dman, Rumpole at Random Topics. Later many other reliable blogs emerged.. Nettle, bori… too many to list here.

We all want the entire Truth to be revealed to ALL Americans and the true criminals exposed and punished.

My question is: How could that possibly happen in a manner that the majority of Americans could actually see it in a televised documentary? Is it realistic that MSM would actually participate or is the BGI more powerful than the Truth?

The more I learn about the dramatic changes in media, the more I realize that I do not know. It’s like the smarter I get, the dumber I get, but I am still optimistic and anxiously awaiting for this to happen.

Serious question: Am I out of touch with reality?

That is MSNBC’s sole job: a propaganda organization to spread hate for the purpose of empowering the current leftists in control of our government.

Know what is ironic?

Skin color is what aroused Trayvon Martin into delivering some “whoop-ass” on George Zimmerman.

    That’s exactly what I was thinking. The only racial epithet that we know for a fact was hurled, was “creepy-ass white cracka”, from Trayvon about Zimmerman. Someone was indeed doing some racial profiling, but it wasn’t Zimmerman.

Lawrence O’Donnell, Chris Matthews and others like them on MSNBC live in lily-white enclaves while accusing the rest of America of being racist. That schtick has worn increasingly thing with viewers, witness the continuing ratings drop.

People like Lawrence O’Donnell & Oprah, who keep beating the race drum, are finding it hard to face facts… Facts that Obama & Holder are all too familiar with: This trial was a witch hunt based on emotion and it proved the race hustlers to be nothing less than the Blax Klux Klan.

Obama, who threads words through the eye of a needle, conceded to Jay Leno that Trayvon messed up.

What did Obama not say? He did not say Zimmerman messed up.

There will be no federal charges filed in the case of George Zimmerman.

Why Not?

Obama knows with ‘certitude’ that that trial would destroy him in the eyes of Black America because O’Mara would prove him & Holder to be nothing more than failed race hustlers like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson & Oprah.

This trial has fractured the backbone of the Cracker Hater Industry. It hasn’t been destroyed but it has taken one hell of a beating.

Henry Hawkins | August 8, 2013 at 11:00 am

I wonder if Obama has read Profiles In Courage or was too offended by the title.

This morning I received a petition from Change.org that purports to be from Trayvon Martin’s parents. If that’s true, the parents have in no way accepted the evidence that was presented at trial, and are clinging to the same lies perpetuated by the media.

https://www.change.org/petitions/change-for-trayvon-stand-your-ground-laws-must-be-reviewed?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=30707&alert_id=YaYXwjdHPb_vYOxyRSXdO

This is a dishonest document. It mischaracterizes both the facts before the jury in the Zimmerman case and the laws that were not part of that case.

    “We’re calling on 21 governors whose states have some form of ’Stand Your Ground’ laws to review those laws and amend them so that people who instigate conflicts — people like George Zimmerman — won’t be able to use these laws to get away with murder.”

    What nonsense. I’ve tried not to be too critical of anything Trayvon’s parents have said or done, because I don’t discount that the grief of losing a child – no matter how it happens – might be enough to turn some grieving parents temporarily insane.

    But it’s been a while now, and that they haven’t even accepted the two major facts that Zimmerman was not the instigator, and that Zimmerman didn’t use Florida’s SYG laws “to get away with murder”, just seems really off.

Phillep Harding | August 8, 2013 at 11:46 am

Does O’Donnell have a back yard a bunch of hoodie wearing strangers could go lurk in?

Bring cameras.

Carol Herman | August 8, 2013 at 1:57 pm

The media thought it would sell the Zimmerman name as belonging to a Jew. They still think that. Which is why they put “white” in front of Hispanic.

But what if there are real costs we don’t see?

I’ve learned that the two groups who hate each other the most are blacks and hispanics. It is so bad that the LA County prison’s system needs separate jails for blacks. Because they can’t mingle the two groups together.

Do you really know what’s going on in the hispanic community?

Even for people who drink beer, they know there are separate brands selling better in hispanic neighborhoods … than you’d find in black neighborhoods. So? How do you define taste?

How do you figure out which political party benefits from all this Zimmerman hoopla? (It’s supposed to attract hispanic voters.) But in some strange election in this state (California), the winner was the republican candidate.

I’m not going to venture a guess. But I do notice that the blacks in Miami didn’t go to bat for Trayvon. Because the race whores couldn’t get them to riot. (They probably think Trayvon’s one of those “yoots” that went bad.) Even Dee-Dee couldn’t get a group going who followed her around to make a big show for TV. Instead of gain media ground in her neighborhood, no one’s looking for her. And, if it wasn’t for her size, she would hav been beaten senseless. That’s how that neighborhood works.

Sure, long ago a black jury freed OJ from the crimes he committed on Nicole and Ron Goldman. But he’s in jail now (for something else). And, except for the media which shows up every once in a while when he has court appearances … I don’t see blacks demanding that OJ get a “get out of jail” free card.

Never let the media define for your what’s really taking place.

SmokeVanThorn | August 8, 2013 at 2:22 pm

Skin color is what arouses O’Donnell.

Can someone please refresh my recollection? I thought that the taped call to the non-emergency operator revealed CLEARLY that George was reporting suspicious behavior PRIOR to positively identifying the race of Trayvon. I think he says something to the effect that, “I think he’s black” and then LATER confirms, off-handedly, that yes, the suspect is black.

It seems to me that this is DIPOSITIVE of the question whether or not Trayvon was “profiled” (read here, “the subject of exercising common sense”) because of his CONDUCT rather than his RACE. Am I right?

(Oh, and I refuse to believe it’s wrong or unfair or immoral to associate criminal (or any other type of behavior) to some groups more than others. I never doubt that a pedophile mentioned in a headline, for instance, is a MALE, although sometimes this bit of profiling proves to be incorrect. And that’s a problem? That’s evil?)

    Chem_Geek in reply to Fredro. | August 8, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    “Oh, and I refuse to believe it’s wrong or unfair or immoral to associate criminal (or any other type of behavior) to some groups more than others.”

    Yes, I look forward to you having to deal with unwarranted suspicion.

      If “Fredro” is a male name as I think it is, then he already gets to deal with “unwarranted suspicion”.

      I’m happy to confess that when I’m out alone, especially at night, I “profile” men in a way I do not do women. I’m more likely to cross to the other side of the street or duck into a well-lighted shop if I think I’m being followed by a Fredro, than if it’s a Fredra.

      Why? Because men, especially youngish men, are more likely to commit all crimes than any other demographic. And because as a woman, if anyone’s going to rob or assault me, it’s just much more statistically likely that it’s going to be a male.

      And while it’s absolutely not true that “all men are rapists”, the sad fact is that most rapists are males. So for my own self-preservation, I profile. And I make no apologies for that.

        Fredro in reply to Amy in FL. | August 8, 2013 at 7:14 pm

        Well-put, Amy! You are correct, common-sensical and smart. I bet you are more wary of pit-bulls than golden retrievers, too! (Hope so!)

      Fredro in reply to Chem_Geek. | August 8, 2013 at 7:15 pm

      Can you re-phrase your point? I’m not sure what you’re saying.

If I have to deal with it, I won’t use violence except in a most extreme situation, which is not some guy asking me what I’m doing in a stranger’s yard at night.

Slightly O/T
New Term: Getting Trayvoned … let’s start the meme.

Some poor kid got Trayvoned by three kids on a school bus:

http://kplr11.com/2013/08/05/florida-teen-beaten-on-school-bus-as-driver-looks-on/

Well the official guide to capitalizing on gun crimes is almost as special as Lawrence O’Donnell:

Democrat Anti-Gun Nuts Now Lumping in Trayvon Martin with Columbine, Virginia Tech, Tucson and Aurora Shootings.

Good grief.

[…] Regular readers know that George Zimmerman’s suspicions of Trayvon Martin were not in the least racially based; they had to do with the circumstances and Martin’s behavior.   However, some elements of The Narrative will never die, particularly when the media insists on perpetuating falsehoods.  From Prof. Jacobson at Legal Insurrection:  […]

Do people even listen to O’Donnell anymore? Thankfully, I have never heard him. 🙂