Trump-Obsessed Psychiatrist Loses Legal Bid to Get Her Job Back at Yale
“A federal judge in Connecticut dismissed a wrongful termination lawsuit that charged the Ivy League school with violating the woman’s free speech and professional obligations”
During Trump’s presidency, we witnessed Trump Derangement Syndrome in many forms, but psychiatrist Bandy Lee, who worked for Yale at the time, stood out as a shining example.
She was repeatedly rolled out by Democrats and the media to declare Trump mentally unfit for office, despite never having examined or even met him.
Lee even went after Alan Dershowitz for defending Trump.
It turns out that diagnosing people from afar is frowned on in psychiatry, so Lee ultimately lost her job at Yale.
She then waged a legal battle to get her job back, but ultimately lost.
David Propper reports at the New York Post:
Psychiatrist Brandy Lee, who slammed Trump’s mental state, fails to get Yale gig back
A prominent psychiatrist who called President Trump and his loyalists mentally ill failed to get her job back after Yale University parted ways with Dr. Bandy Lee two years ago, a judge ruled.
A federal judge in Connecticut dismissed a wrongful termination lawsuit that charged the Ivy League school with violating the woman’s free speech and professional obligations when she was not reappointed to her role with the school, the Harford Courant reported.
Lee, who was in an unpaid position, was with the school for 17 years before she was tossed aside. She argued in legal papers she had a “duty to warn” people about the “contagion” of Trump’s mental state, according to the Courant.
The prestigious university had questions about her judgment and ability to teach after she started making medical proclamations about Trump and others close to him, the newspaper reported.
Her statements go against the American Psychiatric Association rule that prohibits professional opinions of public figures who were not examined, her own lawsuit stated.
As recently as last week, the left was still defending Lee’s actions.
This is from Mother Jones:
The Psychiatrist Who Warned Us That Donald Trump Would Unleash Violence Was Absolutely Right
On the afternoon of February 1, 2016, as Iowa voters prepared for that evening’s caucuses, Bandy Lee sat by the bedside of her mother, who was terminally ill with cancer. An assistant professor of clinical psychiatry at Yale, Lee had been too preoccupied with her mother’s condition to pay attention to the nascent presidential race, so she was taken aback when she saw footage of a Donald Trump rally airing on the hospital room’s small TV. What shocked her was the way Trump interacted with the crowd. “He said something about how his supporters should knock the crap out of hecklers,” she recalls, “and that if they did, he would pay their legal bills.”
His belligerent behavior meant more to Lee than it might to a casual viewer. As part of her clinical work in prison settings, she had evaluated and treated hundreds of violent offenders, including leaders of prison gangs. A native New Yorker, she had assumed that Trump “was just a shady businessman,” Lee told me, but “I suddenly realized that he had a lot in common” with those patients. “Trump was engaging in the predatory manipulation of his vulnerable followers.”
You might say that the left had ‘weaponized’ psychiatry against Trump, or at least tried to do so.
Lee’s refusal to diagnose Biden was enough to know this was nothing more than a partisan hit job.
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Ah yes, “Dr.” Bandy Lee. The same person that felt qualified to do immoral remote diagnoses of President Trump, but flatly refused to do the same for pResident Biden.
Oh yeah, she’s qualified.
And Yale students will be demonstrating for her reinstatement in 3, 2, 1….
Think we could get a pro bono analysis of Biden’s hate speech the other night, Bandy?
She’s a narcissistic clown, and the only way she survived in the profession was to treat people behind bars, who couldn’t sue her for malpractice.
She’s perfect for a Biden cabinet position.
There is no public figure exemption to HIPPA.
Making a public diagnosis is illegal.
That’s bullshit. The first amendment protects anyone’s right to make whatever diagnoses they like, however stupid or baseless, and HIPAA (not “HIPPA”) has nothing at all to say about that.
HIPAA merely says that your doctor can reveal your private information, which she has received from you in confidence, to certain people and nobody else. Bandy Lee is obviously not Trump’s doctor, he has not given her any information, in confidence or any other way, so she has no obligations to him and can say whatever she likes about him.
True enough, but inasmuch as there was no in person examination, the “diagnosis” is just so much air. Or vacuum in this case.
Amusing aside: I was a postdoc at a hospital research facility, and my fellow postdocs and I were talking about the events on some TV medical show from the night before, and a woman got fairly indignant and pointed to the HIPAA notice on the elevator wall. We had to set her straight, albeit with some laughing.
Well, if she did do a diagnosis of Biden you wouldn’t even have to read it to know she thinks he is 100% mentally fit:
1. Sharpest knife in the drawer (he slices MAGA in speeches)
2. Not missing any of his fries (they’re cold)
3. 110% of his marbles (he stole some from another boy)
4. Can change his depends (with minimum assistance)
4. Is able to respond to arm signals (when the Easter Bunny waves him away from the crowd)
Here’s is bullshit. Your senseless blather. If someone wants to shoot their mouth off their are professions they need to stay away from. If someone wants to shoot their mouth off about the mental health of someone they never met, don’t voluntarily join a profession that has a code of ethics that explicitly states that is against the professional code.
When I got my clearance to become a Naval Intelligence Officer I signed an NDA. For 99 years or until I’m dead I agreed not to talk about certain things. Unless I confirm your clearances first and your need to know. Nobody put a gun to my head. I volunteered for that restriction on my speech.
So did what’s her name. Nobody put a gun to her head and made her become whatever she is. Her profession has a code of ethics. She violated that code. She deserves to be sh*tcanned. Unlike me she can’t be prosecuted for going back on her word. So in her private capacity she can say whatever she wants.
But her professional organization that licenses her has decided she is no longer a member in good standing. That is their right. And good for them. They have rules and they’re enforcing them.
If you don’t like rules don’t sign up for an organization that has rules you intend to violate.
Frankly I don’t understand how this mentally ill person intends to make a living. If I felt I had a need for counseling the last person I’d seek out is some attention whore who wants to go on TV and drone on about someone’s mental health. She’s advertising she can’t keep a secret. One of the first things I look for in a health care professional is someone who can keep their mouth shut.
She put a gun to her own head.
She refused to do one.
She stated: “I do not diagnose without examination and do not speak about public figures in general, unless there is evidence of such profound danger to public health and well-being because of serious signs of mental instability in a public servant, that it would be a public disservice not to share the knowledge and training that I have. Biden has not risen to this threshold…”
I think Biden rose to the challenge…
She is a hack, a medical hack that should have her license suspended or withdrawn.
5. Has intact olfactory cranial nerve (likes to sniff things).
I think most psychiatrists and psychologists go into that field to fix themselves.
She’ll have plenty of time to focus on that now.
Very true. I never met a psyche major in college who didn’t have mental issues.
But not all of them go on to become psychiatrists/psychologists. But the ones who do have the biggest issues. And it always seemed to me that they turn pro so that they can feel better about themselves, comparing themselves to their patients.
I believe it. My son had severe mental issues. Going to a psychoanalyst not only didn’t help, he actually made things worse by reinforcing my son’s fantasies.
Oh, you mean affirming someone in their delusions isn’t actually helpful? Sounds like a current fad I’ve heard about lately.
I don’t mean to make light of your son’s issues. Or anyone really. But when it came to someone actually talking ground truth to me (which is what I sometimes needed) I had better luck with prostitutes.
No, I didn’t seek them out. But you have to consider the outfit I joined. I was in the Navy. You get off the boat and there they are. It isn’t like they chose that life. They’re just dealing with the craptastic hand life dealt them. I always treated them with respect and they returned the favor.
The entire thing has the credibility of palmistry.
palms have uses.
her…not so much.
I have acquaintances abused and/or tortured as kids. EMDR helps with trauma.
Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing.
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Palmistry? No way! She can bearly read paws.
I think a shrink who has overcome their own mental health challenges is a better shrink than one who never has. It’s kind of like who is qualified to treat a soldier for PSTD: a shrink who was never in combat, or a shrink who was? I think the latter.
Nonetheless, idiots like this woman are total poison.
I’m wondering why she still had a medical license. This isn’t “free speech”, this is malpractice. If she said “I don’t like him or what he says” that’s free speech. Diagnosing him with a psychiatric disorder without examining him, then (providing diagnosing that way were ethical, which it isn’t) speaking out to any public outlet that will give her air time violates patient privacy laws.
Not fit to practice. If she did this to Biden you can bet her license would have been toast.
Bullshit Listen to yourself. How can she possibly violate patient privacy laws when she has no private information about him whatsoever? She knows only what everyone knows; what she can see on TV just like everyone else. She is absolutely entitled to express her opinions about what she sees, just as everyone is. That is the freedom of speech. It is the very core of freedom of speech.
It’s against the ethics code of a specific private association, of which she may or may not be a member. And Yale, which used to let her volunteer her services in return for the right to call herself a Yale professor, also thinks it’s bizarre and unprofessional, which is their right. But it can’t be against any law, and her license is in no danger. And that would be the same if she were to “diagnose” Biden.
Does it rise to defamation, or are public figures not entitled to that?
It’s not defamation because it’s an opinion, not a statement of fact. And it’s based entirely on known facts; there’s no implication of secret facts that only the speaker knows, as there would be had she actually examined him.
Agreed, but she was presented as an “expert” with medical qualifications, when she gave said opinions.
No real difference, except in the mind of the useful idiots of the left.
I haven’t seen too many who have fixed themselves.
That, and the regular hours and lower malpractice insurance…
From the Post: “While Lee wasn’t paid, she claimed the Yale gig was worth potentially tens of thousands of dollars in perks and exposure that allowed her to consult globally, the Courant reported.”
Bwha-ha-ha-ha. NOW we understand the reason for the lawsuit — her meal ticket got cashed in!
I had wondered what her status was at Yale. I had previously checked to see that she had no medical license in Connecticut, so she couldn’t have been a full-time, faculty track person at Yale with clinical and academic responsibilities. Turns out she wasn’t, she was adjunct and there to do a little teaching. Adjunct faculty know (and should know) that they can be terminated at any time for just about any reason. Embarrassing the university is one such very good reason.
Now she has additional time for her consulting gigs, just with less caché. Good for her!
She’ll be a consultant on MSNBC in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1….
She “taught” for free for 17 years at Yale, but then again she graduated from Yale so they may have had a vested interest in keeping her busy. She isn’t a member of the American Psychiatric Association so her getting any paying gigs as a Psych at all seems a bit less than likely. Good thing she comes from money.
Wait.. She’s not a member of her own professional society?? How is it she is considered an expert in her field when she’s not even a member of her own professional society??
She is only considered an “expert” by the leftists that push her in front of the cameras.
What do you mean “her own” professional society? The APA is a private association; nobody has to be a member, and not being one is not any reflection on someone’s qualifications. For one thing there are other associations she could join if she felt like it. But she doesn’t have to join any if she doesn’t want to.
Mulhouse: most all of us physicians belong to the professional society that is most appropriate for our specialty — for example, as a pulmonary physician, I belong to the American Thoracic Society. I’d expect a psychiatrist to belong to the APA and would wonder why if that person didn’t.
Sometimes there are very specialized people who belong to societies I haven’t heard of, but even then most all of them also belong to a more general, larger, professional society.
It’s unusual for Dr. Lee not to belong to the APA. Not unheard of, but unusual.
True… but a state can take away her license for violating “best practices” in her field, even if she isn’t a member of the association who gets to prescribe those “best practices” for the state.
I don’t think a state could take away her license for something that does not affect any of her patients. What she says about a non-patient, no matter how foolish and unprofessional, is none of the state’s business.
She can pick up some grocery money writing fortune cookie inserts or dressing up like a bunny and delivering helium filled balloons.
For that matter, she’s a natural for Chuck E. Cheese.
She’ll diagnose Chuck E. Cheese with a narcissistic disorder, until someone points out to her that “Chuck E. Cheese” is a drawing.
Did she ever comment on “Bringing a gun to a knife fight “?
She got paid what she’s worth!
Ironically, proof that liberalism is a mental disease.
Not at all a liberal person is she.
She’s a sick lady, infected with the same thing Sam Harris has.
Loudmouth ignoramuses looking for attention: this bozo and Sam Harris applied.
“Lee’s refusal to diagnose Biden …”
IANAShrink, but I’ll do it:
He’s nuckin’ futs!
so,,,,crazy bitch lost her job.
news at 11.
What a shame that the quack won’t get her job back.
The left will come to her rescue financially, just like they’re paying off Fat Stacey Abrams.
I’ve never met the woman, never spoken to her, have only seen her on CSPAN; still I can say with 100% certainty that she is a fool.
Damn, almost two years later and these freaks are STILL being broken by the TDS. Amazing.
TDS appears to be incurable – which IMO is why the Feds unnecessarily raided MarALago – to make Trump “front and center” and get out their afflicted base in November. (Same purpose for Biden’s recent speech.)
As the Immortal Rush, RIP, said ” living rent free in their heads”
I think these are more cases of “pathological opportunism” gone bad than anything else.
Wow. How little presence in one’s profession to work for free for 17 years for the credential of the association; to need that credential to get work after 17 years or more?
Pretty good example of how credentialism works these days. Everybody’s Ok with the scam: Yale with her buying a credential with free labor, her with paying for a credential vs. say meeting some academic standard, her clients with buying someone “credentialed”.
Of course she’s Ok with trotting out as a talking head, for the “exposure” and ego strokes of being on TV. It’s the same as her deal with Yale. And the Ivy-association as signaling credential actually works: signals the branded are good for their part in scams like these.
Credentials are not a substitute for credibility. Hillarity used to drive up to Hopkins everytime she had a big health care announcement to make. Being on the stage of Turner Auditorium somehow gave her and the BS she was selling some credibility. Don’t even get me started on them selling the School of Public Health. Some admins got some money, but everything that emenates from that building is now suspect. As my buddy JR Ewing put it, “once you lose your integrity, the rest is simple.”
She’s the psychiatrist from CCP.
So it turns out her “Yale professor” gig was non-paying. Yale graciously allowed her to volunteer her services, in return for which she got to call herself a “Yale professor” and use that to get consulting gigs.
Her only medical license is in NY, because what she does at Yale doesn’t need a license, so why bother paying for one there? Any medical client she has, she can treat in NY.
Any her ‘services’, as we’ve seen, were purely political. She was a kamakazee talking head, and we know how kamakazee relationships end.
No, her services were not political. As far as anyone knows, she taught her classes properly. But Yale justly wondered how good a job she could be doing if she’s so irrational in her other activities.
Sucks to be you, Brandy.
Nearly as much as it sucks to see you, Brandy.
So a University with one of the largest endowments in the world didn’t pay this twit? That should say something right there. That Mother Jones who “sounded the alarm” about Trumps mental state but is silent about the Dementia In Chief Joey speaks volumes.
Unfortunately, Bandy X. Lee is not that unusual in her field of practice. How many other professionals have you heard criticize Bandy Lee’s “analysis”?
Psychiatrists should stick with prescribing meds, which is the sole area of advancement in psychiatry in the past 60 years or so. When they pontificate about the pathology of this or that, they are largely engaging in either clinical-sounding improvisation or just stating the obvious. Often their analysis amounts to an effort to build an ornate castle on a few grains of shifting sand. Ask 10 psychiatrists – get 10 castles. A clever person can paint a clever good/bad psycho-picture of almost any politician. The psychiatrist/psychologist is simply able to dress it up in clinical language.
Bandy X. Lee isn’t one of psychiatry’s “bad apples.” She is more of a typical apple.