DOJ Won’t Pursue Criminal Charges Against Former FBI Deputy Director McCabe
“Based on the totality of the circumstances and all of the information known to the Government at this time, we consider the matter closed.”
Friday, the Justice Department announced it would not pursue criminal charges against former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe.
The two-year-long investigation is closed as officials cited lack of “candor” when questioning McCabe about alleged media leaks. McCabe was accused of strategically leaking information to media outlets (in particular, the Wall Street Journal) and of lying to federal agents.
Fox News reports:
The Justice Department said Friday it will not pursue criminal charges against former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe, after a nearly two-year-long investigation into accusations brought by the agency’s independent watchdog who claimed that he lacked “candor” when questioned about leaking to the media.
In a letter to McCabe attorney Michael Bromwich obtained by Fox News, Justice Department attorney J.P. Cooney said the investigation is now “closed.”
“We write to inform you that, after careful consideration, the Government has decided not to pursue criminal charges against your client, Andrew G. McCabe,’” Cooney wrote.
The DOJ added: “Based on the totality of the circumstances and all of the information known to the Government at this time, we consider the matter closed.”
In a statement to Fox News, Bromwich, and McCabe counsel David Schertler, confirmed they received the information through a phone call from the U.S. Attorney’s office in Washington, D.C., which was followed by the letter notifying them that “the criminal investigation of Andrew McCabe has been closed.”
“This means that no charges will be brought against him based on the facts underlying the Office of the Inspector General’s April 2018 report,” Bromwich and Schertler said. “At long last, justice has been done in this matter.”
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The 2018 inspector general’s report faulted McCabe for leaking information to then-Wall Street Journal reporter Devlin Barrett for an Oct. 30, 2016 story titled “FBI in Internal Feud Over Hillary Clinton Probe.” The story, written just days before the presidential election, focused on the FBI announcing the reopening of the Clinton investigation after finding thousands of her emails on a laptop belonging to former Democratic Rep. Anthony Weiner, who was married to Clinton aide Huma Abedin.
The Journal’s account of the call said a senior Justice Department official expressed displeasure to McCabe that FBI agents were still looking into the Clinton Foundation, and that McCabe had defended the agent’s authority to pursue the issue.
Our previous coverage of the McCabe story:
Prosecutors Recommend McCabe Face Criminal Charges Over Leaking Details to Media, Lying to Federal Agents
Andrew McCabe: DOJ considered how to remove Trump under 25th Amendment after Comey firing
Andrew McCabe Sues DOJ Alleging Failure to Provide Documents Related to His Firing
Report: DOJ IG Sends Criminal Referral of McCabe to U.S. Attorney of DC
DOJ Report: McCabe Leaked Information to Media, Lied to Comey
Facing Multiple Legal Probes, Fired FBI Deputy Director McCabe Sets Up GoFundMe Legal Defense Fund
Media and Dems Strategize How to Salvage McCabe’s Pension
Former FBI Deputy Director McCabe Fired Right Before Retirement
Report: DOJ IG to Accuse McCabe of Misleading Investigators, Approving Media Leaks
FBI: Deputy Director McCabe’s Retirement Directly Linked to IG’s Hillary Report
FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe on Leave Until Retirement in March
FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe to Retire in Early 2018
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Surprising nobody. Our deep-state is truly untouchable.
We’re finding out Barr is part of the problem, aren’t we….
Really starting to think that.
Agreed!
Bar’s “Old School” elitist East Coast Ties must be cut.
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I was hoping McCabe would face justice from Durham, but the fact that Barr wrote a letter to McCabe’s attorney announcing McCabe is off the hook is evidence McCabe is off the hook.
This cannot stand.
Face justice from Durham? Remember Mr. Huber? He was selected to investigate fisa abuses before Durham. Remember the results of his exhaustive investigation? Yes, that’s right, in a year or more he quite literally (not figuratively) did absolutely nothing. That’s right, no thing. So, feel free to wait for Durham. I think Samuel Beckett wrote a play about that, he just got the name wrong, he really meant Durham not Godot.
Gotta love his non-handling of the epstein assassination.
Those that need to be prosecuted are Barr’s former friends and colleagues at the DOJ/FBI and more than likely have “insurance policies” on Barr from his previous stint as AG!
And when is that smelly swamp rat Wray getting booted from the FBI??
the real underlying problem is that we are no longer a nation of laws, and haven’t been for some time…
if that doesn’t get fixed, our country, in its current form, is doomed.
I give up on Barr. He, Kelly, Bolton, McConnell and others were part of yesterdays’ sudden re-emergence of the NeverTrump attack dogs spouting the exact same lies as the impeachment Democrats. That Durham Report will never see the light of day.
The Democrats had their Mueller and impeachment disappointments. Now we are having our disappoints. In the end, the Swamp will prevail. There are just playing one side of the kabuki theater against the other to exhaust everyone. It’s time to wake up and face the truth. We are being played for fools.
Yes.
These Ever-Rumpers need a total wipe out!
Abraham Lincoln would never recognize the GOP today.
I will await the Durham report before totally giving up on justice being visited upon those attempting the coup to overturn the 2016 election results.
Up until today, I have been sucking it up and saying the same thing. But today’s McCabe fumble and yesterday’s whining about Trump’s tweets on the very day of the NeverTrumpers’ re-emergence was just too much. Trump, his boss, is the chief law enforcement officer in the land. He has a right to speak.
The more I think about it, the lamer his whining about “trying to do my job but Trump’s tweeting is making it nearly impossible” sounds so phony and contrived. It makes no sense. How did his tweets about Manafort’s sentencing being reviewed make his job impossible? Going public and telling Trump to shut up in the middle of the NeverTrumper sing-along was so much worse. He finally lost me.
Sorry to disappoint but do you remember Huber? He was the us attorney (or ass’t us attorney, I forget) selected by sessions to look into fisa abuses. I think forgetfulness is excusable because in his year or more stint, Huber did nothing. And I’m not saying he didn’t accomplish much. He literally did nothing. No thing. Nothin’. So now after Huber, after multiple IG reports, and as many prosecutorial declinations, should one expect something different from Durham? I don’t. The problem is that the corrupted institution, the DOJ in this case, is simply not going to address its own abuses and corruption. Put it another way, has any corrupted bureaucracy, in the history of the world, every voluntarily reformed itself? Ain’t gonna happen.
Barr is either with the corrupt FBI/DOJ or does not understand that every single attorney, including Durham, is a Democrat and/or an operative of the corrupt core that clearly run the justice cartels. The Republicans there is merely for positioning into protecting the criminals that run these agencies.
No charges for those under the Hillary umbrella.
funny how we never ever ever hear – because of the totality of the evidence we decline to press charges against [any] conservative.
It’s not funny. It’s deadly serious.
Just ask Roger Stone. Or Michael Flynn.
Bot Flynn and Stone, no problemo, eh?
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FlynnStones!
It’s the FlynnStones
It’s the modern deep-state fam ah lee!
A US attorney has been appointed to review Flynn’s case, according to Lew Dobbs tonight. Stone is a long way from prison, and it looks like his case will be reviewed also. At any rate, with all the discrepancies, he’ll still be appealing until they throw dirt on his face. I doubt either one of them will spend a(nother) day in jail.
Unfortunately – one of the most difficult aspects of charging MCCabe with a crime is obtaining a conviction by a jury of his peers. The jury pool is 95%+ members and/or believers in the deep state. Therefore getting a conviction is extremely difficult.
Compare and contrast with Flynn who was not a member of the deep state, it is much easier to get a conviction since you only have to remove less than 5% of the jury pool.
It doesn’t matter. Charge him and drag him through the multi million dollar legal gauntlet like Flynn, go after his friends and family and destroy his personal life – hey maybe have him shackled and spend a few months in solitary as a flight risk so he will plead guilty to make the pain stop like Flynn did.
Put him in stocks, public display, have rotten veggies and fruit on hand.
Justice has not been served.
Yes.
Bankrupt him and is Hilary-Obama DEM Crowd he rode in on.
“…[T]o make the pain stop.”
Exactly.
Interesting. So, what you’re interested isn’t justice, it’s revenge.
We’re not going to get justice and everyone knows it. That leaves revenge, better than nothing.
As long as you don’t pretend that anything you do has any basis in the Constitution or or the rule of law.
I routinely butted heads with top corporate brass. They thought they were invincible. They thought I was going to sue them, and knew that they had a huge advantage.
I spent years engineering their downfall. Took their disreputable scalps.
I was often asked if was revenge, and there was a bit of that. Even more important was regime change, changing the culture from disreputable to reputable.
When a change was emanate, I made people whom I thought were a good fit aware that there was about to be an opening. This was successful many times, and then I had a very good and mutually profitable relationship with new leadership.
According to your illogic, every prosecutor brings a criminal charge for ‘revenge’.
What a stupid comment.
it doesn’t matter
you still go after them when the case is still there, even if deep down you think a jury will let them off the hook
because you still put it out there that this level of behavior has consequences
aka – we gonna drag you through the court system
as tz says – the process of defending oneself (legal fees) is part of the punishment
what the DOJ just did will only encourage more of this behavior when the Dems are in charge
Who gives a shit if he’s convicted or not. When Flynn was charged it was for one reason only. So that the federal prosecutors could destroy him. Bankrupt him with huge legal bills. Threaten his family members with prosecution. Make him un-employable. And on and on. A conviction was nice but that wasn’t the goal. The goal was to destroy Flynn. Nothing more. Nothing less. And the same process should be used on McCabe. And all the rest of the damn criminal democrats.
The Homer Simpson rule:
“Trying is the first step to failure so never try and you will never fail.”
Compare it to the Stone jury where not ONE single Republican was allowed on the jury because they didn’t allow politics to be involved. It truly wouldn’t have mattered if McCabe had been tried in the DC district. He would not have been convicted. Durham is our last hope obe one kenobe!
Particularly if a biased deep state judge like Jackson is chosen, who specifically filters the jury for rabid Democrats.
Now we know what AG Barr thinks is the right thing to do and the President had best not call him out.
‘Best not to call him out’?
Why not??
Because AG Barr told the President to shut up.
Barr didnt tell Trump to shut up, LIAR
Between trusting PDJT and Barr with public opinion, I trust PDJT.
Right now, McCabe has walked. The pretense of Barr bringing these coup criminals to justice is over.
Look for Barr to produce a “harsh” report from Durham, and nothing to come of it.
This is bad. VERY bad.
Unsure I’d go that far, at this time, Fine.
I’m going to keep my powder dry, though disturbingly discouraged, for Durham.
IIRC Durham convened a grand jury months ago. That doesn’t mean that anybody is going to be indicted, but I don’t think he did it just for someone to talk to.
We call people like Barr RINOs for a reason. Because they’ll protect democratic interests every time. Disgusting. The guy should be fired.
democrat interests*
He fucking protects the damn democrats.
Barr will not do anything that further damages the credibility of the DOJ/FBI. This approach continues to backfire.
The FISA vote in March will be interesting. How can people that are not subject to the consequences of breaking the law be trusted with secret tribunals?
So disheartening. I honestly feel robbed.
“Robbed” is an understatement.
This is proof our government is COMPLETELY corrupt, and that we are mere slaves to people looting the US treasury with impunity.
ENOUGH.
Yeah, they’re looting alright.
$$ to all these foreigners with their hands out…
Americans the mules for them…
I believe tha I mentioned this before. Barr is not the AG in prder to prosecute Obama Administration criminal behavior. He is there to do just the opposite. McCabe knows too much and charging him will put higher ups, in the Obama administration, at risk of criminal charges. He will not be charged. Stzrok and Lisa Page will not be charged. Neither will Brennan, Comey or Rosenstein.
Gt used to it.
You are correct in you assessment, but I will never “get used to it” , as you say!
Hannity is back in his usual form today. He is arguing that this is a strong indicator that Barr is going for “bigger fish”. Excuse me Sean, but the tried and true method for nabbing “bigger fish” is to go after the “smaller fish” and get them to sing or face prison.
Mueller & Co. put Manifort and Flynn in prison with blackmail and misrepresentation traps. Were they “big fish”? No but prosecutions were based on lies, crooked judges and crooked juries. McCabe was key player in the FISA court crimes. He committed actual crimes, not just phone misrepresentation. As former FBI Director, he IS a big fish! So is Comey also going to skate?
It’s times like this that Hannity’s RINO instincts piss me off.
Hannity has been over promising on what his sources have told him for years. The way it usually works is that the prosecutor get some small fish and intimidates the witness into spilling on the big fish, but as of yet, Barr hasn’t even put his hook into the water
It must be nice to have the partisan political machine protecting you. Leftist are constantly touting that more Republicans have been convicted of crimes than Democrats…well, when Dems refuse to prosecute their own, what do you expect?
* indicted for/convicted of crimes
…and we were right about AG Barr just like AG Sessions
first – whoever is advising Trump on these department hires needs to be canned because so far he’s 0-2 on the top prosecutor
second – next AG (should Trump win 2nd term) has to be grilled before he takes his position that he is actually going to put in the hours and do his damn job
no media interviews and no god damn tours speaking across the country and even abroad
another serious piece of shit Barr is turning out to be
and the above is saying IT kindly
Better speak to McConnell, he gets first call on Trump’s appointments.
And PDJT will be a lame duck. That will leave him with some vulnerabilities, but I’d guess he’ll overcome a lot, but not all of them.
Personally I’ve been voting for the ones promising to be budget cutters like a slasher in a movie. Haven’t seen one elected yet but anymore screw the children. School millages are becoming cash cows for education raises and pension pay offs for voting and organizing for democrats.
“Based on the totality of the circumstances and all of the information known to the Government at this time, we consider the matter closed.”
“At this time” might be the key words.
No they are not!
I have said from the beginning that the biggest error Trump has made was not making Chris Christie AG. The second biggest might have been a poorly designed tax law – both economically and politically.
Of course, if he loses re-election, his big mouth on Twitter and difficulty acting Presidential will turn out to be his biggest.
Then you’ve been flat out 100% wrong from the beginning.
Wow.
Falling Down.
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All the Deep State has to do is charge someone to ruin them…financially commit them to hundreds of thousands of dollars of legal bills all to prove a crime which if committed by one of the agents of the deep state in the investigation will be Nolle Prossed. Then add that those Deep State agents {McCabe, Brennan, et.al.} are quickly given Commentator posititions on friendly media to provide an income stream that Flynn and Stone are not allowed to access. So we are left pinning all of hopes on Huber’s Investigation, just like all the other investigations we were promised would uncover and expose the Deep State. Fool me once, Fool me twice, Fool me three times….etc.etc.
Barr is on TV making public statements about him being happy the DOJ prosecuted Stone for perjury within 24 hours of letting McCabe walk for perjuring himself.
And the line to vigilante justice and civil war gets ever closer to reality.
McCabe is a criminal. The FBI fired him for lying under oath multiple times.
Charge him and let a jury deal with it.
A DC jury would let him go. Maybe Barr is just saving time
So what?
Drag out the prosecution and trial until McCabe is bankrupt and his only option is a plea deal. That approach worked for the DoJ when going after Flynn, after all.
This is standard operating procedure at the FBI. The shenanigans pulled in the Russia hoax and Mueller’s crock of an investigation are a feature, not a bug.
The “based on” is specific. Could he still be indicted under the IG FISA abuse report or the Durham report?
Knock it off MrE. It’s become quite apparent that no matter what report or memo or investigation is done that nothing, nothing is going to happen to these criminals. It is painfully obvious that our AG Barr is a RINO and is protecting all the criminal democrats from prosecution. Drag all the Republicans in on bogus “process charges” and throw their asses in jail for years. But ask for democrats to be held responsible for their criminal actions? Oh, hell no. Ain’t gonna happen. They get let off the hook every time.
So fuck the IG FISA Abuse Report. Fuck the Durham report. None of it matters. Nothing will be done to bring the criminal democrats to justice. It’s government as usual. ?
It saddens me the DOJ statement is concise as to what they will NOT prosecute McCabe for – yet the bulk of comments suggest he won’t be investigated, prosecuted and punished for other matters.
I’m not ready to give up hope. Is that what you meant by “knock it off”? Abandon all hope ye who post here?
The game isn’t over yet. It’s not even half-time yet.
Why even have an IG process, if this continues no one will be held to account over the FISA abuse either.
One can only hope that he has turned on someone higher up in the chain and they actually move that case forward.
To anyone that has followed this closely,
Is McCabe completely out of jeopardy? Or was this decision solely specific to the WSJ leaks?
As long as Barr is AG, McCabe is out of jeopardy
President Trump should fire all the political appointees in the DOJ starting with Bill Barr. This two-tier system of (in)justice cannot stand.
I can understand *why* they don’t want to indict McCabe on lying to congress and perjury. It would be much like trying to cage a rabid skunk, because he would spray and leak and lie through his minions and media buds while the DOJ would face an almost impossible uphill battle to put him behind bars.
Don’t believe me? Imagine every single time he met one-on-one with a Trump administration official or campaign person, even in the elevator. Now imagine him saying something like this for *every* meeting: “Well, I talked with Bob for a few minutes while in the elevator, and he said Trump painted a mustache on a pumpkin and called it Bolton.” (Which the media would run 24/7 as Truth)
It still burns that corrupt lying weasels like McCabe (my apologies to any weasels out there) walk free while mere blowhards like Stone are supposed to be locked up for a decade in the Federal Pen.
I wonder how Martha Stewart feels about this.
It is an outrage that Comey and Company can set someone like Flynn up and he gets prosecuted. Meanwhile, they commit similar offenses and get off scott free. This is why people are losing faith in our system.
And the lack of consequences for subverting our republic continues apace.
Are we in that “have to violate the law/constitution to save the law/constitution” rational? Reminds me of Clancey’s “Clear and Present Danger” where in the final scenes of the money it’s all about collecting chits to gain advantage/protection.
Pointless to even have an IG. Very disheartening.
Barr will never prosecute any critic of Trump. Even a public admission of possessing child pornography is ignored if the possessor is anti-Trump
Well, I guess the US makes one heck of a Banana Republic.
When laws are selectively applied dependent on who broke the law, and the high in government types always get a pass, then we really don’t have a rule of law.
McCabe breaks the law, well, you carry the right card membership so, shucks, you go on home now and give hugs to the missus for us here in the DOJ, sure sorry we put you through that.
Open question:
In reality, why should anyone not connected to the Democrats and their allies farther Left have any belief in the rule of law?
Show your work.
Subotai Bahadur
But that’s the whole point. They DON’T believe in the rule of law, they believe in punishing their enemies and rewarding their friends. That’s the diametric opposite. The simple fact is that the rule of law no longer applies, and the next time Democrats take power in this country they’ll prove it. What bothers me about threads like this is that it’s readily apparent that the majority of the commenters on this website have exactly the same mindset.
” the majority of the commenters on this website”
Perhaps “they’re” tired of losing.
If you (and they) have descended to vigilante justice, then you’ve (we’ve) lost everything.
Ayn Rand wrote, paraphrasing prob ably because my memory–
Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.
So, when we Know the guilty are skating, cruelty is being imposed upon the innocent.
I don’t believe you think we should find that virtuous. But that is in essence what you’re saying.
I’m saying nothing of the kind. What I AM saying is that if you emulate evil, you have no claim to virtue.
Yeah, that Geo. Washington, when he shot at the British, he was on the WRONG side.
How immoral of him!!!!
Let’s take down his statues!!
/sarc
Very depressed
Dear God Trump has to win re-election.
And when he wins, many heads should fall
It’s almost like these deep staters have pledged their allegiance to a secret organization.
The outrage is universal.
For example:
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-andrew-mccabe-will-not-face-criminal-charges/
Read the comments at the bottom of the post.
If Trump had ant sense, or gonads, he’d appoint a Special Counsel, or two, to pick up where Barr left off
PDJT having ‘gonads’ is not in dispute. At all.
PDJT browses the web. He’ll see the outrage and plan his move.
So you think Trump takes his direction from the internet? That’s even scarier than the lynching party above.
How do you extrapolate THAT?
PDJT has his ear to the ground like very people do.
And where do you extrapolate a ‘lynching’ party, above?
Barr hanged himself, with one tv interview, and now this.
I didn’t extrapolate anything. Maybe you should start reading what you type.
McCabe is not out of the woods yet. Durham is still investigating him. If and when Durham, not the IG, gives him a pass, I’ll start crying tears of despair.
I think he’s going to get indicted in early summer.
McCabe should hold off buying that case of Cuban cigars.
Could be. It could also be that he spilled his guts to the grand jury in exchange for immunity.
If there was a possibility Durham would indict McCabe, why would Barr go as far as writing a letter to McCabe’s attorney announcing McCabe is off the hook?
It’s over. Barr is now the problem.
Laws for Us ≠ Laws for You
So much for the left’s charges that Barr is Trump’s ‘wingman’.
Well, looking on the bright side of things, at least they let us know BEFORE they repealed the 2nd Amendment.
DC must think it is Louisiana. Or vice versa.
Two tier legal system. If I’d done the same, I’d have been prosecuted, heavily fined and imprisoned. Total corruption.
The problem with that attitude is that one thing has nothing to do with the other. If you rob a liquor store and get sent to jail, it has no relationship to others who get away with it.
You have to be willfully blind not to recognize the “two tier” system of justice.
I recognize it. I also recognize that the opposite of the rule of law is anarchy. Good luck with that.
What’s the difference from what we have now?
Geo. Washington, we turn our lonely eyes to you…
Do you purposefully misinterpret everything you read?
There’s a difference between “getting away” with something (i.e. not being caught) and being caught yet not punished.
It’s hard to overstate how discouraging this is.
And Barr has said, he has no timeline for Durham to do his work.
Barr has done some good things, but he seems not to appreciate, understand, that millions of us that voted for Pres. Trump, we expect heads to roll for the attempt to depose him as president.
He, Barr, seems to have no antennae for how angry we are, that we’ve been deprived of our right to govern through our vote.
How patient, EXACTLY, does Barr expect us to be, before we decide to just turn over all the tables?
He really ought to consider how fed up citizens are.
It’s unwise to ignore this. Very unwise.
Barr was appointed for the specific reason that he was considered to be fair, honest and not influenced by politics. If you now think that those criteria no longer apply, then your argument is with the man who appointed him.
Hardly.
Would you have thought Barr was a rat?
Apparently Trump didn’t think so, given that he hired him.
Are you in grade school? (Seriously.)
TxVet, how do you know WHY Barr was chosen?
Have you talked to Pres. Trump?
I don’t know why Trump hired him. I DO know his reputation was impeccable prior to that. However, it would be a definite sign of progress if you admitted that TRUMP in fact DID hire him. Lay the blame, if there is any, where it belongs.
Quoting you:
Barr was appointed for the specific reason that he was considered to be fair, honest and not influenced by politics.
So you said you knew why.
As far as having an impeccable reputation, I think not. I read that he “supported” (in what specific way was not clear) the sniper at Ruby Ridge.
I mean, Vicky Weaver was a GREAT threat, holding her newborn.
He also advocates a bill to make it quite unlikely that we can have encrypted communications on our devices. Big Brother must be RESPECTED.
You’re absolutely right, and I was correct when I later said that I didn’t know why Trump hired him. Lord knows that there is no rational explanation for a lot of what Trump does.
Unsure why you think Trump lacks reasoning. He’s single-handedly undercut the press, which our republic badly needs.
He’s doing as well as can be expected under the totality of circumstances.
He didn’t have a “Non-Swamp Party” to choose appointees from.
At least he’s better than Sessions.
“”At least he’s better than Sessions.””
Damned by faint praise.
“”Unsure why you think Trump lacks reasoning.””
I didn’t say that. He’s very smart, but he’s not always right. You should hold Trump responsible for what he does (including the people he hires) and stop blaming his subordinates. Barr has every right to be upset when Trump undercuts him constantly, when a far better result would ensue were he to just call Barr into the Oval Office and privately apprise him of his (Trump’s) preferences. I know you can’t accept it, but Trump acts like he’s an outsider in his own administration, and the term for that is ducking responsibility.
Yes, txvet2 talked to PDJT. Using the hotline, of course.
Hey, Fine, I apologize for feeding the troll.
Super sorry.
I’ll go even further:
It’s obvious, we all know it, that the losers of the ’16 election decided to do all they could, short of assassination, to remove Trump.
In exactly what world does A.G. Barr think that means we should delegate this to one prosecutor, Mr. Durham, rather than Barr himself taking over the investigation himself, and direct the entire D.O.J. to drop WHATEVER they are doing, and prosecute ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS to the FULLEST EXTENT of the law?
If the House wants to caterwaul about it, let them.
These people tried their damnedest to DEPOSE the President of the United States of America. Since WHEN does that get handed off to a 2nd assistant deputy, so to speak? When did our election of POTUS become SO unimportant, that THAT is how this is being handled??
I guess when the D.C. Swamp creatures decided they would just PRETEND we have elections, while they run the country.
No thank you to that. Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, none of them would have put up with this. They would have arrested them, and had them tried – maybe tried – and shot within a quite short period of time. To-wit, in less time than it takes the D.O.J. to requisition pens.
I’m pretty sure that Washington, et al, would have followed the law and not summarily executed anybody. That’s the stuff of authoritarian governments, which seems to be what you (and many others here) prefer.
I didn’t say “summarily,” however, to a people who have learned to obey bureaucrats for every move, and to tolerate months of delay for even minor action, I can understand why a week or two might seem “summary” to you.
Read some history. They had people shot from time to time. Desertion, etc. In short order.
They didn’t embrace a paralyzing bureaucracy.
I also see you don’t consider that your thought process may be flawed.
Instead, the other commenters here are flawed, deeply, and as the left would portray us, we are “authoritarian.”
Of course, that we want FREEDOM, real freedom, not FAKE freedom, makes us “authoritarian.”
We want the ability to ELECT our own leader, this was effectively REMOVED from us, but WE are the authoritarians.
I’m sure you mean well – which is more than you give the rest of us — but I decline to fall into your well.
Lincoln was shot April 14th, 1865.
Those who plotted it were hung, including a woman, on July 7th, 1865.
THINK about that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/four-people-were-hanged-for-lincolns-assassination–and-it-was-caught-on-camera/2015/07/03/377614d4-1905-11e5-ab92-c75ae6ab94b5_story.html
I make no pretense of infallibility. I argue facts, logic and (as much as I understand it) the Constitution and rule of law. What YOU seem to be unable to grasp is that YOUR thinking may be flawed, no matter how many people agree with you. You claim not to support authoritarian methods, yet that’s exactly and specifically what you advocate when you demand retribution or revenge (or revolution) rather than adherence to law. You want to use the left’s methods against them. Sorry dear, while I may sympathize with the sentiment, I can also recognize that resorting to the same tactics as our political enemies will not save our republic.
At this point it is doubtful that anything CAN save our republic.
The evolution of this nation, up to the mid 1960s was that all men are to be treated equally, under the laws of this nation and its member states. Equality has been as elusive as a unicorn, but the citizens of this nation did, on the whole, attempt to achieve this near mythical equality. So, what happened?
Well, the Progressive movement, founded by the rich and powerful in this nation over a hundred years ago, conducted a conscious campaign to establish control of the citizenry through social means. This was especially true after the passage of a Civil Rights Act of 1964, which essentially freed the black slaves in this country from legal chains [institutional racism and segregation]. This culminated in the election of Barry Soetoro [we still do not know the true identity of the 44th President nor, if he was actually Barack Obama, if he was qualified, under the Constitution, for the office of President of the United States of America]. The members of that administration ran amuck, violating laws and the Constitution at whim and will. And, they were so arrogant and stupid that they got caught doing it. Now, the Progressive/Liberal/America-hating Establishment has opened the curtains and is simply doing whatever they wish, in plain view of the populous. They have unleashed their Black-shirts [Antifa and similar organizations] and their version of Pravda [Most of the news media] And seek to justify this through lies and violence and intimidation. They are proving that the rule of law is not only dead, but mummified. They are pushing this nation into a violent civil war. And, they do not care.
The principal that all men enjoy equal protection under the law is the bedrock of our nation. Erode that far enough and the nation collapses. people look at how the DOJ and the courts treat Trump supporters and how it treats those who are anti-Trump and/or members of the Progressive establishment and they clearly see the difference. The gross lack of EQUALITY under the law. They see how local Progressive governments allow anti-Trump violence to occur, while blaming and charging Trump supporters for said violence. Once the government(s) stop following and enforcing the law equally, then the people take the responsibility for establishing and enforcing the “law” extra-judicially. This point is rapidly approaching.
Mac45, thank you for expressing my thoughts so well! Particularly with regard to “Barry Soetoro.”
Re: Lincoln. Trials were a lot shorter in those days and the appeals process was shorter, but they were still subject to the rule of law. It doesn’t help your advocacy of extra-legal retaliation against your political enemies.
The country you live in, you may not be aware of this, was formed after a REVOLUTIONARY WAR against Great Britain, a long war, from about 1776 to about 1781.
THEN in 1861, the North invaded the South, and caused The War Between the States.
Americans think some things are worth fighting for.
But again, why bother to feed an servile, passive aggressive troll?
The people responsible for the coup attempt committed crimes. If Barr is not influenced by politics, he’d go after them for those crimes, and not because he’s in DJT’s pocket.
My sources tell me that he’s received this lenient treatment because Barr/Durham have flipped him and he’s a cooperating witness against Comey, Brennan, Yates, Priestap, Strzok, Rosenstein, and possibly Rice, Power, and their boss.
It’s how real prosecutors do it.
Damn, I hope they are right. But I’m not optimistic.
His recent editorializing make this unlikely in the extreme.
Doubtful. MccAbe has been acting like a petulant victim today. And he’s gloating
That’s true. But Barr’s public statement against PDJT has put that theory to rest.
You wanna buy a bridge?
Wishful thinking. When a prosecutor “flips” a criminal, he has to maintain leverage. This is done by charging the criminal and holding these charges over his head. You do not maintain the cooperation of the criminal “witness” by absolving him of guilt.
No, McCabe was given a pass because to charge and try him would expose those above him, in the Obama Administration, to potential criminal charges.
This is the most egregious government coverup in US history. It is far worse that the Nixon coverup. And, to make it even worse, those involved feel that the American public is either too stupid to realize what they are doing or are too well controlled for it to matter that this is being done in the OPEN, for all to see.
Would it be reasonable to assume then that you believe that nothing meaningful will come of what Durham is doing? (In my opinion, Trump’s single biggest error so far is not picking Christie for AG at the beginning.)
Nothing will come out of the Durham investigation. The whole point of all of these investigations is to identify which Obama Administration figures are at risk for potential criminal charges. Though we might see a couple of very low level personages take a fall on minor charges, as Wolff did, none of the “important” people involved are never going to be charged or indicted. And, if it looks as though they might rollover on those VIPs, then they will end up neutralized like Epstein and Rich. The potential for damage to the Establishment is simply too great to allow them to be compromised.
What this will lead to is anyone’s guess, at this point.
Exactly, Mac. Exactly.
I’d like to be optimistic but my gut tells me otherwise. IMO, lying to an FBI agent is low hanging fruit and if the DOJ isn’t willing to go after something this simple I don’t see them going after anything that’s complex. Some folks have wrote that AG Barr was “saving face” to avoid a DC jury handing McCabe and acquittal and I guess that’s possible. However if you can’t trust a DC jury with a simple “he lied” verdict do you honestly believe you can trust them with a complex FISA case? Seems to me that if you vote or support a candidate under the banner of GOP / Trump and your Papodpolus, Flynn, Van Der Swann or Stone and you lie to an FBI agent or to congress then you get the full DOJ press. But if you happen to be McCabe you get a walk. Makes me wonder when he’ll get his pension back.
I believe the DOJ,FBI is corrupt to the very last person, right down to the last janitor hired, every agent and attorney from Anchorage to Key West. This belief is shared by virtually every attorney I know. The FBI DOJ always have their own agenda. Law is merely a means to that end.
Given your view of their corruption, how is this for a conspiracy theory? Bloomberg, who really is well qualified and can spend a lot more money than the Republicans, gets the nomination, picks a well-qualified VP and stops apologizing for his solid actions as mayor. People conclude he can do the job as well as Trump and not get the bullying and belittling (literally) and Twitter garbage. Not long before the election Durham/Barr come out with a “nothing-burger” intended to discourage Republicans and turn them off to Trump’s ability to pick competent people.
Well..
You can bet on our D.O.J.
Obama and Hillary must have pictures of everyone with little boys .
Occams razor
given the dirt that exists on obama and clinton, it’d be suicide for obama or clinton to put out dirt on anyone who could return the favor.
Worth viewing:
Tom Fitton: How DOJ-Deep State is Preventing AG Barr From “Doing the Right Thing” on Anti-Trump Coup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOgZI-L2mbU&feature=emb_logo
Lying to federal officers is a crime that needs to be repealed. We’ve seen multiple Trump supporters ensnared by this offense who’ve had their lives destroyed while multiple Trump opponents known to have lied to federal officers have walked away with little or no repercussions.
Of course, it isn’t the crime that’s most important, it is that we cannot trust the FBI or the DOJ to fairly enforce the law. They see their job as to root out what they see as evil and the and any that impedes their mission is only honored in the breach.
A.G. Barr sees saving the FBI & DOJ as his primary role. Anything short of that is unacceptable. Barr knows that the FBI/DOJ is not a building or a name on a plaque; it is the people and their culture. How can he save those people and their culture?
Simple answer is that he cannot save DOJ/FBI; today’s news is no longer controlled by newsrooms, everybody can see the corruption oozing from every pore of the DOJ/FBI. The corruption isn’t new, it’s always been there; what’s new is the ability to publish information without the supervision of newsrooms.
Martha Stewart, Scooter Libby, Michael Flynn, Roger Stone and now all the rest of us can see and understand how the DOJ/FBI abuses their power to achieve their goals. They already have tremendous power but now, with over 90% of all federal criminal cases are resolved through plea bargains, we can begin to understand the terrible enhancement of their power via two tools: prosecutorial discretion and lying to federal officers.
Lord John Dalberg-Acton wisely taught said: “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men…”, and Thomas Paine offered us a similar perspective when he said: “Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.”
The DOJ and FBI are now intolerable to a free people; nevertheless we still require an FBI/DOJ so what do we do? Lord Acton and Thomas Paine tell us that anybody we put ‘in charge’ of a government agency with its power will be corrupted and Paine confirms that “…even in its best state, is but a necessary evil…”
A.G.Barr thinks that he can save these organizations by covering up the corruption; he cannot do that in today’s connected world; instead we need to reduce the power that corrupts those who exercise it. To this end, we ought to eliminate or greatly reduce plea bargains and repeal 18 U.S. Code § 1001, lying to federal officer. This will result in justice based upon evidence rather than coercion.
I take your point – you do understand the non-prosecution decision is limited to the referrals from OIG re 3 instances of alleged lack of candor.
Only stated what I’m hearing – that this is small fry regarding other McCabe vulnerabilities being ‘held over his head’ and that Comey et al. need to be concerned about his future cooperation.
It’s not just the big guys, Barr has ignored IG referrals for at least a dozen and has done nothing about Kevin Clinesmith who altered an e-mail to get a FISA warrant. Barr, for some reason, prosecute even the most obviously guilty anti Trumper
oops, that should read “never prosecute even…….
I suspect that, unlike Schiff, General Barr is following the DOJ regulations that incorporate Due Process requirements before dealing with these employees.
Having worked for the Feds for 30+ years in a legal capacity, nothing takes longer to discipline an employee except perhaps a lava flow or the rise of the oceans.
Dismantling the Administrative State takes trust and patience. But I fully understand the skepticism – Saints Comey and Mueller would never use Weissmann to slime patriots. . . .
And that is just another aspect of our ongoing problems, and why PDJT has been a help: we’ve tied ourselves up in knots with “due process” and other regulations.
It shouldn’t take 30 years for someone who receives the death penalty to suffer that penalty. Yet the lefties love it.
Don’t disagree – BUT – from a political rather than a criminal perspective, Schiff and Nadler demonstrated what is possible if you ignore due process.