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We can now conclusively say the Iran nuke deal was induced by fraud

We can now conclusively say the Iran nuke deal was induced by fraud

By the Obama administration and the Mullah regime.

We know that the U.S. was defrauded into entering into Obama’s Iran nuclear deal.

The first fraud was committed by the Obama administration, which deliberately misled the American people and created an echo chamber to amplify and sustain that fraud.

But don’t take my word for it, take the word of the Obama official who coordinated it, Ben Rhodes, who admitted as much in an NY Times interview. See our prior posts, Grand Deception: How Obama and Ben Rhodes Lied Us Into the Iran nuke deal and The Five Deceptions of Obama-Rhodes Echo Chamber

There was a second fraud, by the Iranians. That fraud, which involved hiding and secreting evidence of its advanced nuclear weapons program, was just exposed by thousands of documents and CDs the Israeli Mossad stole from right under the Iranians’ noses at one of its most secret locations, Netanyahu Reveals Newly Discovered and Damning Intel on Iran Nuclear Program.

The echo chamber which supported the Iran nuclear deal has gone into overdrive to try to minimize the importance of what Iran hid from everyone. But as Benny Avni explained in The NY Post, Iran’s past lies are very important now:

Critics of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s “Iran Lied” presentation on Monday quickly opined that it contained nothing new and, since it didn’t point to violations since the 2015 Iran deal, it in fact showed Tehran is in full compliance….

Can we really trust we know Iran’s current nuclear status without accounting for what happened in the past? Not according to some who know how nuclear inspections actually work. It’s difficult to say whether Iran is advancing in its nuclear program without completely accounting for what it did before.

As Olli Heinonen, a former deputy director of the International Atomic Energy Agency, said in a press call shortly before the Iran deal was signed, “When the agreement comes in force, there will be a complete declaration by Iran on its . . . past and current nuclear program. That’s the first prerequisite.”

Well, Iran never actually agreed to make such a declaration. Although the IAEA professionals know such accounting is necessary, American and European negotiators didn’t insist on it.

Instead, they bought generalized public declarations by Iranian officials. As Netanyahu showed in his presentation, those included statements by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, President Hassan Rouhani and the ever-smiling Foreign Minister Javad Zarif. All said pursuing nuclear bombs is, literally, against their religion.

They lied about their religion. Who could have seen that one coming.

But it goes beyond that. One of the best explanations as to why the deception matters was by David Horovitz, Editor in Chief of The Times of Israel, Derisive response to PM’s exposé shows world still refusing to get real on Iran:

The largely derisive response in most international quarters to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s avalanche of evidence of Iran’s nuclear weapons program on Monday night, notably from among the nations that negotiated the 2015 nuclear capitulation to Iran, merely underlines their incompetence, their failure, their disingenuousness, and the gravity of the ongoing Iranian threat that they so reprehensibly failed to defuse.

Showcasing the Mossad’s astonishing haul of Iran’s own nuclear weapons documentation, Netanyahu did not seek to claim that Israel had attained smoking gun evidence that Iran has breached the terms of the P5+1’s 2015 agreement with the ayatollahs. The critics sneering at his ostensible failure to produce a post-2015 smoking gun are — most deliberately, as is their wont — missing the point.

Israel does not contend that Iran is breaching the specific terms of that radically inadequate accord. Quite the contrary.

It is Israel’s deeply unhappy assessment that the deal is so negligent, so misconceived, so badly constructed, that the Iranians have no need whatsoever to breach it. (I set out many of the central flaws in the accord at the time it was finalized, in an article headlined “16 reasons nuke deal is an Iranian victory and a Western catastrophe.”)

Horovitz goes on to demonstrate why Iran’s now-proven intent on creating nuclear weapons, as it claimed at the time was demonstrated by the supposed fact that it never had a nuclear weapons program, is so important:

No, Israel’s contention is not that Iran is breaching the deal. It is, rather, that this agreement, far from preventing Iran from attaining a nuclear weapons arsenal, paves Iran’s path to it.

And what that haul of Iran’s own documentation conclusively demonstrated is that this is precisely what Iran intends to do. Compelled to freeze the program in 2003, Iran is merely biding its time before resuming nuclear weapons-related activities, empowered by the R&D progress it is being allowed to make under the terms of the accord….

It must have been galling for the P5+1 negotiators and their defenders to watch that irritating Netanyahu strutting around in front of those shelves of files and those racks of CDs, claiming vindication and underlining the negotiators’ scandalous failure.

But the fact is that the 2015 deal was a terrible, misconstructed accord. It let the duplicitous Iranians off the hook. It did not dismantle the weapons program they still lie about. It did not close their path to a nuclear weapons arsenal.

There are many other good takes out there dismantling the Iran Echo Chamber talking points.

At The Washington Examiner, Michael Rubin writes, Iran is a nuclear cheat and the IAEA is a complete failure:

Advocates of the Iran nuclear deal say that Netanyahu’s exposure of 100,000 documents is proof that the Iran deal worked because, they insist, the agreement ended such Iranian work. That is far from clear.

What is worrisome, however, is how proponents of the JCPOA ignore two problems: First is Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif’s previous insistence that Iran had never worked on nuclear weapons, and second was that former President Barack Obama accepted Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei’s supposed fatwa against nuclear weapons as evidence that Iran was sincere. In reality, Netanyahu’s bombshell shows both Zarif and Khamenei have lied repeatedly, raising questions about their honesty about every aspect of Iran’s nuclear program.

The bigger problem, and one that should lead to resignations, is with the International Atomic Energy Agency. Contrary to those who argue that Netanyahu’s revelations reveal nothing new, the documents show both that the size and scope of Iran’s program was far greater than the IAEA realized and that Tehran sought illicitly to retain the ability to reconstitute its program. And yet, the IAEA missed the extent of Iran’s nuclear program, all the while giving cover for largely political reasons that the deal was working.

At Ynet News, Ron Ben-Yishai writes:

As for Iran’s current compliance, of course it’s complying. The deal gave Iran the best of all worlds. It weakened U.N. restrictions on its right to develop, test and field ballistic missiles — a critical component for a nuclear weapons capability that the Iranians haven’t fully mastered. It lifted restrictions on Iran’s oil exports and eased other sanctions, pumping billions of dollars into a previously moribund economy. And it allows Iran to produce all the nuclear fuel it wants come the end of the next decade.

Yes, Iran is permanently enjoined from building a nuclear weapon, even after the limitations on uranium enrichment expire. But why believe this regime will be faithful to the deal at its end when it was faithless to it at its beginning?

The U.S. agrees that there is much new material in the materials, as Reuters reported:

The international agreement on limiting Iran’s development of nuclear weapons was reached under false pretenses because the country’s nuclear program was more advanced than it indicated at the time the deal was negotiated in 2015, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said on Tuesday.

“The problem is the deal was made on a completely false pretense. Iran lied on the front end,” Sanders said at a regular White House briefing. “They were dishonest actors and so the deal that was made was made on things that were not accurate. Particularly the fact that Iran’s nuclear capability were far more advanced and further along than they indicated.”

Netanyahu did the cable news circuit, and explained the importance:

[Alternative YouTube upload here}

We now can conclusively say the Iran Nuclear Deal was induced by fraud by the Obama administration and the Mullah regime.

As a result, Iran is just biding its time, putting all the pieces into place to launch and deliver a nuclear weapon when the deal sunsets. We know that because of the archives obtained by Mossad.

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Fraud whom whom?

Not obama and kerry.

    Obama is a traitor.

    Everything we feared about ‘him’ (whoever he really is) has been proven to be horribly true.

    If he was smarter, we’d have been doomed by now.

    Same seems to be true about Sessions. And McConnell.

    Thank God (literally: thank God) for Donald Trump.

Close The Fed | May 2, 2018 at 8:56 pm

Can we not hope that Saudi Arabia will deal with this? Or should we not simply unleash Israel to do as it wishes to end this problem?

    randian in reply to Close The Fed. | May 2, 2018 at 10:45 pm

    Why would Saudi Arabia “deal with it”? They’re just as gung ho for the Quranic mandate to kill the Jews as Iran is.

      Tom Servo in reply to randian. | May 3, 2018 at 12:20 am

      Fyi, Iran has about 10 times the population that Saudi does. The Saudis control a lot of money, but they are barely able to hold their own against that ragged band of medieval rebels down in Yemen. As things are right now, they wouldn’t stand a chance on their own against Iran. Which is why they’re establishing a working military alliance with Israel, although neither side is really quite ready to tell their respective publics the deals that are being made.

      Do you think it’s just a coincidence that Prince Salman publicly told the Palestinians to go pound sand a couple days ago?

    davod in reply to Close The Fed. | May 3, 2018 at 2:08 pm

    Iran’s population is 80 million, Saudi Arabia’s 32 million.

No, all this reasoning is still somewhere between speculative and outright sloppy. But it’s unnecessary—

The first fraud was committed by the Obama administration, which deliberately mislead the American people and created an echo chamber to amplify and sustain that fraud.

That part’s good enough for me. Repudiate the “deal”. If we do, the Future will thank us.

Ragspierre | May 2, 2018 at 9:44 pm

Barracula was a compound, serial fraudster, and this is but one of several massive examples of pure corruption fostered by lies to the American people and the world.

The scale begs belief.

As bad as I saw things being during the Obama Regime, I felt once he was gone at least with Trump as President, the damages might be corrected. Yet, all we keep seeing and hearing about is further evidence that Obama was an enemy of our Country for the various things he did. I don’t think we will ever recover from his Presidency.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to oldgoat36. | May 2, 2018 at 10:08 pm

    What might propel recovery is Obama being tried for treason, followed by a fitting end. I do think that Obama is the worst president in our history.

      Valerie in reply to JusticeDelivered. | May 2, 2018 at 11:51 pm

      Nope. No killing ex-Presidents. If we do that, we go the way of the Romans.

      Instead, we learn from our mistakes and then re-shape our laws and rules. I don’t mind heavy-duty criticism of his actions.

      We will need to change the rules for how our FISA courts can operate, for example. We may need Civil Service reform.

      Milhouse in reply to JusticeDelivered. | May 3, 2018 at 6:31 am

      Your ignorance shines again. Treason comes in only two forms, neither of which 0bama can be accused of:

      (1) Taking up arms against the USA. 0bama has not done this.

      (2) Adhering to their enemies. This is a key element, and to convict someone of treason the jury must be presented with evidence that convinces it beyond reasonable doubt that the defendant did adhere to an enemy of the US. There is no reason to suppose, let alone admissible evidence of, 0bama supporting any of our enemies, except perhaps Cuba.

      His policy of setting up Iran as a regional power was not motivated by love for the Shi’ites, but by hostility to the idea of USA dominance in the world. Iran just happened to be the most likely candidate for him to put in this position. That’s not adherence.

      Further, either of these kinds of treason must be proven by two witnesses to an overt act. What would that be?

        JusticeDelivered in reply to Milhouse. | May 3, 2018 at 7:45 am

        Rather or not Obama’s Iran deal meets the letter of law for treason, it is still damn close to treason, Obama effectively propped up an enemy of the US, and he sure as hell promoted their achieving nuclear capabilities. Both sound like treason to me.

        Lawyers tend to look at minute detail of law, nothing wrong with that. I tend to look at the bigger picture, and where Iran is concerned, sooner or later, we will have to destroy them.

        Arminius in reply to Milhouse. | May 3, 2018 at 8:12 pm

        It isn’t as if treason is the only law on the books that Obama (and Clinton, or Kerry) could be convicted of violating. How about conspiracy to defraud the United States. The Obama administration sent billions of dollars wort of cash to Tehran knowing full well that Iran hadn’t fulfilled its end of the deal. The whole Obama administration was a de facto criminal conspiracy against the United States.

        Clinto should go to prison for violating the Espionage Act. That scumbag Comey simply refused to prosecute her for political purposes (which is obstruction, for which he should be prosecuted). Hillary Clinton clearly violated the Federal Records Act. Which in hindsight, although I suspected as much as events unfolded, was why Comey was paying so much personal attention to the investigation. I’ve been peripherally involved in similar investigations when I was a Special Security Officer in the Navy and worked with NCIS. Investigations always expand as additional crimes are discovered. It’s why prosecutors file amended indictments to add further charges. Comey’s personal involvement served one purpose and one purpose only. To make sure that his investigators did not pursue additional leads. Again, obstruction.

        Hillary Clinton committed at least a dozen federal felonies. As did Obama. He violated the law when he ordered the trade of what were effectively five Taliban generals for the traitor Berghdal. His administration was required to inform Congress first, and he didn’t do that. Because Congress wouldn’t have funded the transfer. In 2014 Congress passed a law, and Obama signed it, making it a felony to use any federal funds to transfer GITMO prisoners without first informing Congress 30 days prior. Such a transfer violated the Antideficiency Act, and that will land you in prison for two years. The GAO report was quite clear on that; the transfer was illegal. I believe, again, conspiracy to defraud the United States would be appropriate. He used funds that were specifically NOT authorized to make the trade. Moreover, he certainly had to bribe the Haqqani network, who were actually holding Bergdahl, to release him. The Haqqani network doesn’t do favors for the Taliban for free, and none of the prisoners Obama released benefited them. So Obama had to have sweetened the pot for them.

        See? We don’t need to go anywhere near treason to try this organized crime family (no wonder they saw eye-to-eye with the Haqqani network, because that’s what they are). These corrupt [email protected]@rds committed a number of ordinary crimes, defined by statute and not the Constitution. I haven’t even provided a thorough list. I would just send them to prison for a short stretch. Maybe 10 years. Then drop them off south of the border for running guns into Mexico, an act of war (and no, leftists, Bush didn’t do the same thing because unlike Obama/Holder who did it in secret Bush brought the Mexican government in on the operation).

@JusticeDelivered

That is unlikely. However if about a half dozen significant people who have committed consequential treason were tried and punished by the traditional penalty, our situation could either get much better or much worse. Much better if those who intend to commit for their treason would decide it’s better to leave the country, or much worse if those roughly half of the country who support such treason were to show up and vote for more of it. The truth is a large number of Americans despise their own country, and take considerable satisfaction in holding that position. Most of them will not change, they’ll double down.
People who clearly hate this country and either act on that head, or promote it over a period of years parentheses such as via promoting Marxism) need to be expelled from it. Let them gather together and form a utopia in whatever land they can insinuate themselves into. Freedom need not include the freedom to destroy the USA.

    elle in reply to beagleEar. | May 3, 2018 at 5:24 am

    “The truth is a large number of Americans despise their own country, and take considerable satisfaction in holding that position. Most of them will not change, they’ll double down.”

    That is a true statement, but the number is much smaller than they would have us believe.

    I’ll keep repeating this because it is worth repeating: They have the megaphone of academia, MSM, entertainment and social media ….and yet……. they can’t win without importing LARGE numbers of illegal immigrants, sanctuary cities and motor voter laws. They can’t win without the homeless encampments AND the felons They can’t win without the fraud.

      lc in reply to elle. | May 3, 2018 at 8:21 am

      Yet.
      But because they are in control of most of media, education, entertainment, they have made huge headway into turning many of our children’s malleable minds into mush- many who are actually believing the bs this cabal is pushing.
      So, until we get control back from much of those institutions, we are still in danger.
      I do get your point, though, about illegals and fraud. Maddening.

    Milhouse in reply to beagleEar. | May 3, 2018 at 6:34 am

    Which half dozen significant people do you allege have committed “consequential treason”, whatever that means? Name them and present the evidence that they’ve committed an overt act of giving aid and comfort to an enemy out of adherence to the enemy’s cause, or that they’ve taken up arms against the USA?

    The closest I can think of is Kerry’s Paris trip, and Fonda’s Vietnam trip.

      JusticeDelivered in reply to Milhouse. | May 3, 2018 at 7:53 am

      “evidence that they’ve committed an overt act of giving aid and comfort to an enemy”

      That sure sounds like Obama’s Iran deal.

        Milhouse in reply to JusticeDelivered. | May 3, 2018 at 12:38 pm

        out of adherence to the enemy’s cause. How did you ignore that? Are you dishonest or just stupid?

          tlcomm2 in reply to Milhouse. | May 3, 2018 at 1:12 pm

          The “enemy’s cause”, as frequently and publicly chanted, is “Death to America”. You have stated that Obama wants a significantly weakened America – sound familiar. You should make the case.

          paracelsus in reply to Milhouse. | May 3, 2018 at 3:24 pm

          “Are you dishonest or just stupid?”
          are you looking in a mirror?

          Milhouse in reply to Milhouse. | May 7, 2018 at 2:52 am

          Adherence to the enemy means actual support for the enemy.

          The clearest example is the Haupt trial. The Haupts were convicted of treason only because the jury was convinced beyond reasonable doubt that their motive for helping their son was not family loyalty but their love and devotion for Hitler. Both the trial court and the appeals court agreed that had the jury entertained a reasonable doubt that they might have done it only because Hans was their son then its duty would have been to acquit them.

Ouch, can’t edit.

Where does Valerie Jarrett fit into all of this mess? Seems to me she had to have had a major role in the negotiations to even start talks. I’ll bet as the layers are peeled back, her name will be all over this as the one who concocted the scheme to begin with. She also controlled every move Obozo made during the whole time he was in the White House.

What many in the MSM do not tell you is that Iran is suffering debilitating inflation (almost hyperinflation) as their economy is crumbling apart. The Theocracy is on the verge of loosing power as protests are erupting and have done so against the Ayatollahs for over a year now. The shipment of pallets of money to Iran gave the Ayatollahs a second breath and allowed them to continue to keep their government (along with the terrorism they support) to continue rolling along since then. Essentially, the Obama deal kept the Ayatollahs in power. Think about the implications of that.

buckeyeminuteman | May 3, 2018 at 6:46 am

Fraud? By the Obama Admin? No way…

The thing that irks me most is the world was waiting for Kerry to bring this to a vote in the Senate and went to the UN in the literal dead of night and had them sign off on it.

Help me out here. I’m seeing books and CDs, but no photos of uranium processing or bomb fabrication. What am I missing?

    JusticeDelivered in reply to snopercod. | May 3, 2018 at 7:55 am

    “What am I missing?”

    The big picture.

    SDN in reply to snopercod. | May 3, 2018 at 10:23 am

    Books and CDs that by the terms of “the deal” Iran wasn’t supposed to have.

    You’re following the same line of BS that claimed “Oh, all those WMDs we found in Iraq were old” without mentioning that under the terms of the cease-fire Iraq wasn’t allowed to have them.

    Mac45 in reply to snopercod. | May 3, 2018 at 12:16 pm

    First of all, the most important thing that a country needs for a fission bomb program is centrifuges in order to enrich the fissionable material. And, Iran had about 10,000 of them. Uranium has to be enriched to 4-5% for nuclear power plants and to ~90% for a fission bomb. However, it takes several tons of fissionable material to supply a nuclear power plant for a year and only about 25 kg to produce a fission bomb. Also, the time necessary to enrich uranium to 4-5% is almost the same as it is to enrich 4-5% enriched uranium to 90% weapons grade material.

    So, with 10,000 centrifuges, it is almost impossible for a large scale commercial power plant to operate for an appreciable length of time. Also, the energy requirements to produce 5% enriched uranium for power plants is almost as high as it is for 90% enrichment for nuclear devices. So, for a totally self supporting nuclear power program, of only one commercial reactor, Iran would need 10 times the centrifuges which it had in 2015. On the other hand, it not only owns about 10% of a nuclear enrichment center in France, it could buy all of the nuclear reactor fuel necessary for a domestic power program from Russia [which currently does], which produces an enormous amount for export. In other words, Iran does not need a single centrifuge for a domestic nuclear power program or it needs several times the current number of centrifuges which it has.

    The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action actually reduces the number of Iranian centrifuges by 50%. While this number makes it impossible for Iran to produce enough enriched uranium for a nuclear power plan, it is more than enough to produce enough weapons grade uranium for 3-4 weapons in 40kt range in a year. And, in 2015, Iran had some 16,000kg of uranium enriched to 3.5%. The following report gives a pretty good indication of what was known about the Iranian nuclear program in 2015, just before implementation of the JCPA:

    https://www.iranwatch.org/our-publications/articles-reports/irans-nuclear-timetable

jmccandles | May 3, 2018 at 7:57 am

The entire Obowelmovement pResidency was a fraud committed on the American people to move us closer,it will collapse from with in.

How much of the Iranian cash was funneled back to Obama and his friends?

That’s why they gave a billion $ in unmarked bills – so you can’t “follow the money.”

Treason.

    randian in reply to JOHN B. | May 3, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    You could say the same of the missing millions of dollars at the State Department under Clinton. How much of it went into her pockets?

DouglasJBender | May 3, 2018 at 10:10 am

“We can now conclusively say the Iran nuke deal was induced by fraud.”

I believe there is a missing “a” before “fraud”.

DouglasJBender | May 3, 2018 at 10:10 am

“We can now conclusively say the Iran nuke deal was induced by fraud.”

I believe there is a missing “a” before “fraud”.

It is always nice to have proof that people have lied to you, but in this case it is simply gilding the lily. Anyone with two working brain cells would accurately assume that the Iranians were lying and would not adhere to any any agreement concerning nuclear weapons. And, the same assumption can be made for anything which Barack Obama, or his administration, claimed would benefit the USA.

Presidents have a lot of leeway when it comes to foreign policy. So, there was really nothing illegal about Obama’s deal with Iran. In fact, it dovetails nicely with his continual actions which reduced stability in the Middle East as well as domestic actions which did the same in the US.

The Iran deal should be decertified, by the US, and sanctions reimposed. Whether this does any good, in the long run, is debatable.

“induced by fraud”? Just like Ben Rhodes and the entire Obama administration.

How much evidence do we need that the “Iran deal” was induced by fraud? Not “a” fraud. Multiple frauds. I don’t like Democrats, generally, but one of my favorite moments in a Senate hearing on the arrangement was when Sen. Menendez (D-Joisey) accused a state dept. official of getting his talking points from Tehran.

True. True.

There’s another crime we can convict Obama of committing. Acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign power. Which is no joke. Numerous reports from the P5+1 sham negotiations with Iran to ink this farcical “deal” prove that it was actually the U.S. and Iran teaming up to buffalo the the others into allowing the Iranians to go nuclear while pretending otherwise.

The Obama administration was getting their talking points from Tehran. Obama turned 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. into nothing more than a PR firm for every Islamic terrorist organization approved by the Muslim Brotherhood or the Mullahs.

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