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Uh oh – Hillary may not have wiped her server properly

Uh oh – Hillary may not have wiped her server properly

Maybe she did do it “like with a cloth or something”

From the moment the Hillary email server scandal broke, there have been conflicting reports and claims about if and how the server was “wiped” clean.

At an August 2015 appearance, Hillary famously said she didn’t know if it was wiped:

“Did you try to wipe the hard drive?”

“I have no idea… that’s why we turned it over …

“You were in charge of it, did you wipe the server?”

“What, with a cloth or something? …. No”

Since then there are reports that the most sensitive, highest-levels of classified information were found in emails, including human source intel. The material is so sensitive that lawmakers are not even permitted to view the intel that was on Hillary’s home server.

In another development, there is a further report that the server (now in the possession of the FBI) was not wiped clean in a professional manner:

This is not the first time that there have been reports some of the emails were recovered.

But it is the most clear expression that Hillary didn’t wipe her server properly, with our without a cloth.

And it will provide critical proof for the indictment of Hillary. Which should happen unless someone at DOJ doesn’t want it to happen.


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The Friendly Grizzly | January 24, 2016 at 12:34 pm

“After taking a secret, always wipe your server!”

“Which should happen unless someone at DOJ doesn’t want it to happen.”

The little people are trying to hold a member of the ruling class accountable. What “should happen”, of course, is subjective.

I’m with Limbaugh on this. There are still very fine, dedicated people in both the FBI and the DoJ, and they will not abide this being ignored.

She’s going down. And stop that snickering about Huma over there! Just stop it…!!!

Didn’t she know she was supposed to use one of those anti-static thingies?

Evidently there is still a lot of material to review in what has been recovered. If the FBI was just going to nail her for mishandling classified information, she’d be indicted by now. I also expect that they are sweating the guy who set up and ran that server, trying to get him to sing. The net is that they want a case so strong that she has to go to trial and that Main Justice won’t be able to quash the indictment.

The only question that I have (other than if the Administration can kill the outcome of this) is if the case is being slowed down to the benefit of someone who comes riding in when Hilary has to drop out of the primary. Do they wait until they see if she starts winning key states or do they wait until they see that she’s a non-factor? Does Bernie suddenly have to drop out? The sudden appearance of Nanny Bloomberg is an interesting twist. If Hilary goes down and Trump seems to be rolling up primaries, does the DNC court Bloomberg to come back to the fold as a counter to Trump?

Hillary didn’t wipe it at all. She told her staffers to delete everything incriminating and they probably thought they did. Most people don’t understand that deleted data can often be recovered.

I’m sure that even now Hillary is screaming at Huma or someone about having botched the job. “Heads will roll!”

She should be in jail.

Henry Hawkins | January 24, 2016 at 1:23 pm

Hillary knew she was operating illegally and expected to be president before it could hurt her. Oops.

Conspiratorial daydream: It gets revealed through FBI investigations that one traitorous use of the private email server system was that foreign entities would pay a camoflaged fee to the Clinton Foundation, via grossly overpaid speaking fees, donations, or fake fees for services never actually rendered, and in return Hillary would make sure certain classified information would be made available to them by the simple process of hacking her server, with Presdient Hillary Clinton able to cover it all up.

    Nah, I’m sure she told the IT company that set up the server to do it.

    However, since she already had to find a less-than-respectable company willing to illegally run a server for her in the first place, it’s not a big shock they’d bungle the job.

    To truly wipe a server first you have to delete everything. THEN you re-write the entire memory with gibberish. Then you do it again 4 or 5 more times.

    As a final step if you don’t need the physical drive any more, PHYSICALLY destroy the drive – ideally first with high powered magnets to further break it down, then rip it apart.

      The word ‘bungle’ is most probably incorrect here. Put yourself in the shoes of the company handling the server. A Clinton just told you to wipe her private server that you *know* contained things that could come back to bite you. When the FBI comes calling, and you know it will, you are in a far better place if you can produce the hardware in a condition that can be reconstituted with just a little work.

      So do a quick Fsck to make the drive look blank, stick it back in the basement, and report back to her that the problem had been taken care of.

    rorschach256 in reply to Henry Hawkins. | January 25, 2016 at 11:19 am

    Henry Hawkins, you are exactly correct and I’ve been saying this for a long time. This was not accidental or mere incompetence, this was intentional and with malice aforethought. This was a digital “dead drop” disguised as simple incompetence so that she can claim at worst that she just made a mistake and no intentional treason was involved. That is the very reason this has branched out into payments to the Clinton Foundation.

    rorschach256 in reply to Henry Hawkins. | January 25, 2016 at 11:20 am

    For those who do not know what a dead drop is:

Anyone who has seen at least two (2) crime procedurals knows that just ‘deleting’ a file doesn’t actually remove the data. Harridan Hillary obviously doesn’t watch such plebian fare. Thus we are presented with a conundrum: did she ‘delete’ or did someone else ‘do it’? Good defense topic not so?

    JPL17 in reply to SeniorD. | January 24, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    I can picture Hillary pacing back and forth, muttering to herself, “Will no one rid me of those meddlesome e-mails?”, and then Huma and Hill’s other henchmen dutifully taking the hint …

Humphrey's Executor | January 24, 2016 at 2:01 pm

“Judgement in Cases of Impreachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgement and Punishment, according to Law.” US Const. Art. I, Sec 3

This implies that FBI already has much—perhaps all—of the mound of e-mails that State has been dragging its feet about releasing. And FBI has the metadata which is missing from the printed copies of the e-mails.

Furthermore, the missing e-mails concerning Clinton Foundation business (and the presumed Clintonian shenanigans arranging payoffs for “favors”) should also be there; these would be e-mails which, of course, Hillary never provided to State, as they would involve activities blatantly criminal even by Clintonian standards.

Yet still, not a whole hell of a lot seems to be actually happening. And that’s not a good sign.

In any event, it still defies belief that FBI has a drive from Hillary’s server. Why isn’t it at the bottom of a lake somewhere? The Clintons haven’t survived their life of crime for all these years by making such boneheaded errors. The murder mystery equivalent of this situation is not only leaving fingerprints all over the scene of the crime, but also leaving the sales receipt for the murder weapon lying under the body. Not even Hillary in the middle of a stroke could be that dumb.

    MaggotAtBroadAndWall in reply to tom swift. | January 24, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    If you are going to hit the king, you better kill the king.

    They want the case against her to be so overwhelmingly strong that it will be impossible for a sane person to accuse them of playing politics (the insane will say what they want). It will not be a close call. My guess is that if they bring charges, they will be able to show that her negligence did not merely have the potential to cause harm, but that in FACT actual harm has already resulted.

    They leak what they want leaked. The most recent leak is that her negligence had the potential to put human intelligence personnel at risk. It is possible human intelligence have already been harmed. They are just accumulating the evidence to build a rock solid case to prove it.

      Of course, that’s what everybody’s hoping. But there’s no real reason to believe that

      (i) Any FBI bigwigs will stick their necks out, jeopardizing their careers, just to eliminate one of the persistent rectal itches of American politics;


        tom swift in reply to tom swift. | January 24, 2016 at 4:50 pm

        Somebody really needs to do something about the posting software here.

          tom swift in reply to tom swift. | January 24, 2016 at 4:57 pm

          To continue:

          (ii) That the Lynch Justice Department is even slightly interested in the actual merits of the case; or

          (iii) That there is anything which can force the utterly shameless Obama admin to do anything he doesn’t want it to do. Recall that this bunch has been caught selling guns to Mexican gangsters, and has suffered no consequences whatever for their crimes. There is no way a technical snit over e-mails is going to exert useful pressure on this bunch of gangsters.

    Spiny Norman in reply to tom swift. | January 24, 2016 at 2:51 pm

    Yet still, not a whole hell of a lot seems to be actually happening. And that’s not a good sign.

    Who does the FBI answer to? They work for the Department of Justice, do they not? Do you honestly believe that Eric Holder or his female doppleganger Loretta Lynch will permit anything to “happen” to Her Majesty? Protecting the Democratic Party bigwigs comes before all else.

    The truth may come out one day, but long after it won’t matter a hill of beans.

      Bruce Hayden in reply to Spiny Norman. | January 24, 2016 at 5:35 pm

      The thing that is weird about the FBI is that its Director serves a 10 year term. In this case, the Director is James Comey, who started his 10 year term in 2013, and is ostensibly a Republican who served under GW Bush. He has a reputation of being very much a straight shooter. There are those who know him, who expect that he would resign if the FBI recommended prosecution, and that was ignored or denied by AG Lynch, with enough specifics leaked to make sure that Hillary, Lynch, and Obama all would look bad.

      We shall see.

      Agreed, except that I believe protecting obama comes before protecting the party.

Truth cannot be wiped away. Or beheaded.

Richard Aubrey | January 24, 2016 at 2:32 pm


For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty as Commander of a Submarine Coordinated Attack Group with Flag in the USS Sculpin, during the 9th War Patrol of that vessel in enemy-controlled waters off Truk Island, 19 November 1943. Undertaking this patrol prior to the launching of our first large-scale offensive in the Pacific, CAPT Cromwell, alone of the entire Task Group, possessed secret intelligence information of our submarine strategy and tactics, scheduled Fleet movements and specific attack plans. Constantly vigilant and precise in carrying out his secret orders, he moved his underseas flotilla inexorably forward despite savage opposition and established a line of submarines to southeastward of the main Japanese stronghold at Truk. Cool and undaunted as the submarine, rocked and battered by Japanese depth charges, sustained terrific battle damage and sank to an excessive depth, he authorized the Sculpin to surface and engage the enemy in a gunfight, thereby providing an opportunity for the crew to abandon ship. Determined to sacrifice himself rather than risk capture and subsequent danger of revealing plans under Japanese torture or use of drugs, he stoically remained aboard the mortally wounded vessel as she plunged to her death. Preserving the security of his mission, at the cost of his own life, he had served his country as he had served the Navy, with deep integrity and an uncompromising devotion to duty. His great moral courage in the face of certain death adds new luster to the traditions of the US Naval Service. He gallantly gave his life for his country.

CAPT John Philip Cromwell
Medal Of Honor Recipient

Submarine Hero – John Philip Cromwell

by Edward C. Whitman

Hillary couldn’t be bothered to use a secure server. Which, as it happens, is the most charitable interpretation.

“Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) and Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS) — are not connected to the unclassified system, known as the Non-Classified Internet Protocol Router Network (NIPRNet). You cannot e-mail from one system to the other, though you can use NIPRNet to send ­e-mails outside the government.”
Classified computers are deliberately configured so that you can’t record information on portable media – writeable CDs, sticks, etc. So it has to be retyped unto the unclassified system. Most classified emails were sent to Hillary by her chief of staff Cheryl Mills or deputy chiefs Huma Abedin and Jake Sullivan.

    American Human in reply to Icepilot. | January 25, 2016 at 9:10 am

    Iceman, thank you. This is a point I’ve been trying to make over and over about the closed system that is a classified server.
    It has to be deliberately done with understanding and knowledge of what one is doing. There is no way anyone involved can pretend it was an “oops” moment.

The (NY Post?) headline I’d like to see:

Hillary’s Bathroom (Server) Wipe Not Up To Professional Standards.

If there’s an indictment, I hope that it doesn’t cover all issues, so if Obama pardons her, prosecution can proceed on other grounds later.

Also, if she’s indicted, I suspect that it will be timed such that the establishment Dems can select their replacement (in lieu of Sanders, unless he prevails in getting the nomination).

    janitor in reply to janitor. | January 24, 2016 at 6:54 pm

    Oh my cynical me.

    I just had a sickening thought as to a possible reason for a very, very thorough investigation…

Another Voice | January 24, 2016 at 2:51 pm

Yet with all that is known, it will take A.G. Loretta Lynch, to file the evidence provided by the FBI to a Grand Jury to bring charges for indictments and prosecution. Under this administration, unless it is politically favorable to Obama, it will not happen. Lest we count all the ways and times Obama uses the law, but does not subscribe to following it.

Hillary has always impressed me as the sort who is too good to type in case she messes up her manicure and if she did, wouldn’t know where to find the Any Key if her life depended on it.

Question: If Hillary is indicted, does she continue running her campaign? Pretend it’s the vast right wing conspiracy trying to bring her down? If she wins before she’s convicted can she pardon herself?

    Arminius in reply to BrokeGopher. | January 24, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    If Hillary is indicted she’ll continue running her campaign if she has to run it from Switzerland as a fugitive from justice, sharing a chalet with child rapist Roman Polanski.

    Or from her jail cell if she’s denied bail.

    And either way she’ll still get the party nomination. The Democratic party is a criminal conspiracy, with the rank and file voting for people like Hillary because they’re unwilling or unable to do their own stealing.

Since the private sector protocol for “wiping” hosting gov info is to drop the HD into a wood chipper, I think this fell short of the standard.

Good luck finding a impartial jury. This story has been out so long virtually everybody knows some aspect. They, too, how will a ‘jury of her peers’ be cleared to see the evidence? Finally, other than cockroaches and rabid Stalinists, does Harridan Hillary even admit to having ‘peers’?

We now know two things with certainty.
First, Hillary is utterly incompetent at everything she touches. If you cannot go out and obtain a product that will efficiently wipe your server, then you are helpless indeed and it is this kind of helpless person who we do not need running the country.
But her keeping the drive around and even her half-hearted attempts to clean it indicate that there was something very important to the Clinton’s on this hard drive. Any normal person would have beaten the server with a hammer, burned it in a hot fire, and then dumped it far out at sea, but Hillary did none of this indicating that there was some value there so what was it? Being that, by her own admission, 30,000 e-mails were private and never turned over (which equals around 20 e-mails per day, 365 days/year) how officers in the Clinton Foundation had access to the server, and how the server may have been used for Clinton Foundation business, it becomes clear that everything there is related – and almost certainly criminal.
But then again, we know one more item and that is how we will eventually find out what is going on. If there is an indictment, then all will become clear and should there be no indictment, then there will be more than enough leaks for us to learn the dirty little secrets of Hillary.

American Human | January 25, 2016 at 9:14 am

I’m wondering if we will have another Web Hubbell i.e. someone who is willing to go to prison for Hill and Bill once again. Will it be Cheryl Mills, Huma, or maybe even Weiner? Who will be the one to take total and complete blame for everything and do the time for Hillary? After all, for someone with no morals at all, better in prison than dead, right?

From the few emails I’ve read, I’m convinced Hillary knew exactly what she was doing, the risks they entailed and simply didn’t care about keeping secrets.

Her staff that enabled these security violations are also no doubt teed up for prosecution. People at the Clinton Global Initiative who brought SoS Hillary in touch with businessmen for pay to play are teed up for prosecution. In fact anyone who knew about Hillary’s fast and lose conduct with classified docs, and looked the other way, is teed up for prosecution.

In short Obama will be offered the opportunity to root Clinton and their cronies out of Democratic politics forever once the FBI presents its case. Another person not yet caught up in this is the Big Dog. I wonder if he is on the FBI radar?

A question for the lawyers in the audience. obviously most of these crimes are federal in nature, and therefore within the power of Lynch to derail. Are any of her crimes state or local? Could the FBI partner with a DA on a state or local level to indict her thereby bypassing Lynch?

Months ago, when we were told that Hillary “wiped” her server, I was concerned that she may have made the drive forensically worthless. However, seeing that the data has been recovered, a forensic examination may reveal additional crimes, such as:

E-mails that should have been turned over to the government (related to her work as SoS)
Evidence that the server was breached by a foreign power (we already know “Guccifer” breached it)
Evidence that classified information as accessed by an intruder

If evidence of these and similar crimes is revealed with a forensic examination of the drive, Hillary could then be charged with yet another crime – tampering with/attempted destruction of evidence.

Well, I’m on record here from months ago saying no way shrillary could be that stupid, that the drives would have been replaced with clean drives and the old ones “disappeared”.

Apparently I was completely wrong, they are that stupid.