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So now Hillary server not “wiped”? Depends

So now Hillary server not “wiped”? Depends

Clinton World created impression emails were gone forever, but maybe they exist after all.

Nothing is ever simple in Clinton World. Words have multiple meanings or no meaning.

So now we’re arguing over what the definition of “wiped” means.

The Washington Post reports, Tech company: No indication that Clinton’s e-mail server was ‘wiped’:

The company that managed Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private e-mail server said it has “no knowledge of the server being wiped,” the strongest indication to date that tens of thousands of e-mails that Clinton has said were deleted could be recovered.

Clinton and her advisers have said for months that she deleted her personal correspondence from her time as secretary of state, creating the impression that 31,000 e-mails were gone forever….

To make the information go away permanently, a server must be wiped — a process that includes overwriting the underlying data with gibberish, possibly several times.

That process, according to Platte River Networks, the Denver-based firm that has managed the system since 2013, apparently did not happen.

“Platte River has no knowledge of the server being wiped,” company spokesman Andy Boian told The Washington Post. “All the information we have is that the server wasn’t wiped.”

The WaPo article notes that this current information contradicts prior statements:

Campaign spokesman Brian Fallon gave a similar answer this month, telling CNN: “I don’t know what wiped means. Literally the e-mails were deleted off of the server, that’s true.”….

The original server remained under Platte River’s control in a secure data center in New Jersey until the company turned it over to the FBI last month. A company attorney has said that the device was “blank” when it was given to investigators but had not specifically said it had been wiped.

In a letter that month [March 2015], Clinton’s attorney David Kendall told a House investigative committee that no e-mails from Clinton’s time as secretary “reside on the server or any backup systems associated with the server.””

Here is the key text from the March letter:

“There is no basis to support the proposed third-party review of the server that hosted the [email protected] account,” Kendall wrote. “To avoid prolonging a discussion that would be academic, I have confirmed with the secretary’s IT support that no emails…..for the time period January 21, 2009 through February 1, 2013 reside on the server or on any back-up systems associated with the server.”

In an August 12, 2015 letter filed in federal court as part of a Judicial Watch FOIA suit, Hillary’s lawyer further created the impression there was no data:

Judicial Watch FOIA Case Huma Abedin - Kendal 8-12-2015 letter excerpt re server data

Why would Clinton World want people to think it was a waste of time to try to recover the emails?

For the same reason she maintained a server in her house — because she didn’t want prying eyes and to maintain total control. That was Plan A — make it all seem so silly and political to try to obtain a server that had nothing on it.

Now that the FBI has the original server, and Platte River is cooperating, I’m guessing the emails will be recovered, and Clinton World will go to Plan B, say they never said they “wiped” the server, so there, she did nothing wrong.


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After seeing the response from the DoJ about Huma Wiener and her embezzlement of US funds and the DoJ lawyers telling the court that hillary was perfectly within her rights to delete her “Personal” e-mails, why would anyone believe that if all the e-mails are recovered that say terrible things about obama and the US that there will be any consequence for her? Loretta Lynch is holder with hair.

So now Hillary server not “wiped”? Depends

Depends®? I’ll bet they’re standard issue around the State Dep’t about now.

The only reason I think she may suffer any consequences is that you’re going to see a revolt in the intel community and probably the FBI if she isn’t charged.

This is a Bradley Manning/Edward Snowden level leak.

As with anything emanating from Clintonia, parse words carefully.

What does George Soros think about all this?
He has been noticeably quiet of late…does Hillary owe him “a favor?”
Where did Hillary stay during Chelsea’s wedding?

Why does anyone believe the hard drive is the original?

Hillbilly can hire people that are not that damn stupid.

    Arminius in reply to Barry. | September 13, 2015 at 2:44 am

    No, actually she has to hire people who are that stupid. People who are smarter than that won’t take her crap.

    She hires yes men, doormats, and sycophants.

    Read this email Lanny Davis sent Clinton and you’ll get the flavor of the kind of person Hillary chooses to have around her.

    “Lanny’s Letter to Hillary Is D.C.’s Most Cringe-Inducing Document Ever
    Not a parody.

    …The Reines email might be the second most cringe-inducing document in Washington ever. The top (so far!) prize, however, certainly goes to Clinton lawyer, advocate, and all-around flunky Lanny Davis. In September 2010 Davis sent his “dear friend Hillary” an email with the subject line “Personal – a personal favor.” What follows are two pages of over-the-top praise for the former first lady, more than a healthy dose of self-promotion on Davis’s part, several hand-wringing apologies for even bothering the great and powerful Hillary Clinton with such a terrible request, and four groveling “pleases.”

    The email has to be seen to be believed:”

    She hires people who will do what they’re told, no questions asked, no discussion. She turns into a screaming, raging harpy otherwise. Which is why I’m convinced it had to be one of her personal court toadies and throne sniffers who sent classified information to her private, unclassified email system. Someone more loyal to her than to the United States, and someone more afraid of angering Hillary Clinton than committing felonies.

      Which is evidence of nothing. We’re not talking about the political sphere here, we’re discussing a simple technological issue. There are lots of leftwing technocrats to choose from, including experts that work for the government.

      It’s possible she never thought her ass would get in this deep, and afraid of someone else knowing, she did not swap drives, but I doubt it. She may be evil, I don’t see her being that stupid.

        Arminius in reply to Barry. | September 13, 2015 at 7:50 pm

        Yes, there were a lot of sharp technocrats she could have hired. But instead she hired this guy who seems none too sharp:

        “…In addition to his government salary, Pagliano also received compensation directly from the Clinton family, but did not list it on his annual financial disclosure forms, according to the Washington Post.

        …Pagliano also managed Clinton’s private email server, which was located in her home in Chappaqua, New York. He reportedly managed the server remotely from the State Department and in site visits in New York when there were outages.

        Read more:

        You do realize there are several no-nos here? In fact, they’re boneheaded mistakes. Some may be actual crimes. I always caveat these claims by saying if the reported information is true, but the fact he didn’t report that he was getting paid by the Clintons directly suggests he didn’t get “special employee” status like Huma Abedin. I’m not sure if that’s a crime, but I am 99.9% sure that getting paid to do non-government outside work and then using government computers and facilities to perform that outside work is a crime.

        But as I said, Hillary Clinton hires people for their loyalty and their willingness to suck up, not their smarts. In all things.

        Arminius in reply to Barry. | September 13, 2015 at 8:14 pm

        As I said, if the reports are true, then this Pagliano was too stupid to cover his own tracks. So why would he, and Clinton herself, be any better at covering anybody else’s tracks?

        Lots of people do stupid things when it comes to trying to cover up for wrongdoing. Elliot Spitzer, client no. 10, left a payment trail to his favorite prostitution ring that tracking it was no harder than tracking a herd of buffalo in fresh snow.

        And now I’m 100% certain that, again if true, he managed Clinton’s server using government resources and equipment that’s illegal. While a government employee can make limited use of government property for various authorized purposes, one thing that is absolutely prohibited is to use such for one’s own commercial gain.

          Arminius, I’m not for a moment suggesting the hillbilly is anything less than criminal. And maybe they are all that damn stupid. But I would be very surprised to find they left behind a hard drive with all the email still in place (just deleted). The easy thing to do is swap to a different drive, load the emails you wish to “show up” in any investigation, delete them, and unless the drives are registered by serial number who is going to prove otherwise? It’s too easy to find the experts you need when you operate at the level of the hillbilly. But maybe they are just entirely stupid or never thought it would get to this point.

          You can bet your ass there are plenty of people with those skills working for the federal government in the shadows department.

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This will be quite something if all of the deleted emails are recovered…

Now that is a stunning analysis.

Nothing is ever simple in Clinton World.

aka Bizarro World.

“Us do opposite of all Earthly things! Us say truth, us mean lies. Us say transparency, us mean obfuscate or die.”

Hillary did not have technical relations with that server…

Just one side question: Why are we so focused on Hillary’s server but when Lois Lerner was in the cross hairs, the only worry was about her workstation? Were the folks handling the Lerner cover up really that much more competent than the one’s handling the Hillary cover up or what?

If Platte River didn’t wipe the data, it means either Hillary’s team didn’t consider that deleting was not enough OR that someone else did it – possible the State Dept aide who is now demanding immunity, that would make his demand make more sense.

It seems most probable none of them realized it, or that whoever was supposed to do it may have reformatted the hard drive and figured that was enough.

    DaveGinOly in reply to Estragon. | September 13, 2015 at 12:55 am

    Some people are technologically dim-witted enough to think the “moving” the contents of a drive to another machine actually removes the contents from the first machine, and that “deleting” files actually deletes them. How much of what Hillary and her attorney have been claiming about the data has relied upon mistaken assumptions about how computers actually work?

    Nice thought about the tech guy. Maybe someone wised up at some point. If so, and if it can be shown that a single piece of classified information was hacked from her server, Clinton is guilty of destroying evidence of a crime. (If it’s a crime merely to breach a network that contains classified data, as “Guccifer” did, then she’d be obviously guilty of destroying evidence of that crime.)

If the emails still exist on the server and some are the “classified” emails then wasn’t transfer of the server to an unauthorized party a violation of Federal law?

We should all be happy that politicians and bureaucrats are more interested in hiring staff that are great at talking but not so good at being competent!

Its a great example of why individual rights trump the power given to the Grubernment! The Grubernment will always fail at these types of cover ups because they are to stupid to hire competent staff or eventually the smart one’s turn against the leaders when it comes time to take the fall. Next will will hear that Clinton’s IT staffer has accepted immunity (tick, tock…you can start the clock now).

Bill’s women aren’t very adept at wiping away the evidence, are they?

Didn’t everyone learn their lesson with the Lois Lerner debacle? All this talk of servers and hard-drives is nothing but a big red herring. Take take to learn the basic architecture of how Internet email protocols and servers work and you’ll realize that these emails exist in many different locations, no matter how hard Hill wipes and wipes. They’re on backup servers, tapes, online accounts, upstream servers, downstream servers, recipients’ servers, senders’ servers, etc etc etc. If somebody REALLY wants the contents of these emails and they have subpoena powers, then the emails will be seen.