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Is Joe Biden setting up health (or insanity) defense to renomination?

Is Joe Biden setting up health (or insanity) defense to renomination?

Joe Biden’s behavior is becoming more and more questionable.  Hardly a day passes in which Biden doesn’t say something really strange.

The put “y’all back in chains” comment, saying he was in North Carolina when he actually was in Virginia, and forgetting which century we are in, are just the latest.

While Obama is standing by Biden, the rumor mill has been working for months about Obama ditching Biden for Hillary, and it is growing.  Anne wrote about Hillary’s “brand renovation” in June, asking “where is she heading?”

Some even are saying Sarah Palin’s recommendation that Obama swap out his VP was a move to cut off that line of retreat.

Obama Press Secretary Jay Carney says the President’s lunch with Biden and Hillary is “routine.”  They officially have until September 6, when the nominating process occurs at the Democratic National Convention, to make the decision.

Just this week, Biden opened a speech referencing his prior aneurysms.

One has to wonder, if it’s either the history of aneurysms or the equivalent of an insanity plea, is Biden setting up a health defense to renomination — bowing out for the good of the party while not admitting he knowingly did anything wrong.

I think it is highly unlikely, but is Biden dropping out something we should not wish for too hard because we may get it?

I think so.  I say let Joe be Joe.

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Henry Hawkins | August 16, 2012 at 2:07 pm

Is this why the Dems have an impeached, debarred, lecher retread giving their keynote address at the convention?

Would the ego of either Obama or Hillary allow an Obama/Clinton ticket?

Isn’t Hillary already lined up for 2016?

Would it necessarily be Hillary as the replacement?

Say it ain’t so, Joe!

I’ve always thought he’d make the swap if he got desperate–and she’d accept Vice since it would put her in line in 2016.

    Henry Hawkins in reply to BlackJack. | August 16, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    But she’s already lined up for 2016, having checked the ‘foreign policy’ hole on her resume by serving as Sec of State.

    I’m thinking she wouldn’t want to play second fiddle to Obama (she’d have to serve 4 yrs as VP if this worked), and wouldn’t want to risk leaving office as a losing VP candidate. If she remains S of S and Obama loses, he gets blamed, not her, and she can spend the next 4 yrs running for prez and raising money. If she becomes the VP candidate and loses, she’ll be pegged as the one who failed to save Obama/Dem Party, and her path in 2016 becomes harder.

    Never going to happen. Obama misunderstands the phrase, “Biden:the gift that keeps on giving.”

This always makes me remember this intro to Bob Dole ..

Bob Dole went into the Army, sustained a head injury, then became a politician.

“One has to wonder, if it’s either the history of aneurysms or the equivalent of an insanity plea, is Biden setting up a health defense to renomination — bowing out for the good of the party while not admitting he knowingly did anything wrong.”

Emphatically yes. Biden is history. But Hillary as replacement is not as certain. A “swap” is not going to happen. Look around for an up-and-coming female democrat with strong roots in the Left but one that the MSM can sell as a friendly face to independents.

Cassandra Lite | August 16, 2012 at 2:29 pm

Hillary as veep is a game changer. Which means she holds all the cards here. If Obama is re-elected without her, there is no possible way the country—assuming it still exists—will vote for her in 2016. We’ll go full Hegelian and elect the ghost of Milton Friedman before another Democrat gets in.

So he has to guess whether he’s electable without her. Tough call for her. Either way, veep is as high as she’s going. G-d bless the Secret Service.

    Cassandra Lite in reply to Cassandra Lite. | August 16, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Moreover, if Obama loses in November, Hillary will have to run in 2016 against an incumbent who at his worst will have done better than Obama’s best. Not a good situation. Which is why her best chance is now as veep.

Hmm…

This is an interest field for speculation.

I think Joe is a liability in the eyes of many Collectivists.

But is Hill-larry the most likely choice?

What about Sebelius? Or Granholm?

    Cassandra Lite in reply to Ragspierre. | August 16, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Neither Sebelius nor Granholm was the “two for the price of one” co-president during the Utopian (in Dems’ memory) 90s. Plus HRC is seasoned. Any other woman would like naked tokenism. They can pitch it as another co-presidency, though only, of course, if Obama feels that he’s going down without her. Otherwise his arrogance and pride won’t abide the grovel.

    What fun to think of Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Clinton circling each other after Obama is re-elected and starts to renege (am I allowed to use that word?) on his promises to her…again, because of his thin-skinned arrogance.

    No matter what happens here—Biden or no Biden, Hillary or no Hillary—it’s popcorn time.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/08/hooray-obama-to-stick-with-bumbling-biden-on-ticket/

The regime came out with a strong statement of support for the Biden candidacy today.

Given the history of Obamic support for people in the past (The Wrong Rev. Wright)…

if I were Joe, I’d watch for banana peels strew in his path.

    Cassandra Lite in reply to Ragspierre. | August 16, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    “Dispatch, I have an alert from the vice president’s residence at the U.S. Naval Observatory. Mr. Biden just pressed the alarm button on his 24-hour neck monitor. From what I can hear, he’s having trouble breathing. Please hurry.”

    “Roger that. As soon as Felipe gets back with the Mini Cooper, we’ll get someone out there.”

    “How long will that be.”

    “Maybe an hour, depending on traffic.”

    “Roger that.”

A major problem with inexperienced soccer players is keeping them from scoring” “own goals” by inadvertently dribbling or otherwise propelling the ball into their own net. Any adversary with the built-in propensity for “own goals” should be ignored or encouraged to continue, not counseled against the practice.

The other side of that coin is it could be folly to reawaken Hilary’s Hordes. If Teh Won doesn’t know enough to trade out a loser when the time presents itself to do so…….well, that’s too bad!

theduchessofkitty | August 16, 2012 at 3:10 pm

Wasn’t Joe Biden placed on the ticket as an “insurance policy” against any and all attempts to remove The One from office?

Well, it’s better for them keep him there till the very end. Let Biden be the boulder that sinks the Obama ship.

And let’s sit down with Sarah as we enjoy the show! 🙂

Hillary Clinton is the Democrats’ replay of Paul Ryan. Or some younger female up-and-comer, as some have mentioned previously. (Granholm is ineligible, even by the most generous interpretation, having been born in Canada.)

There’s been a lot of premature gloating on the right about November. Obama wants to win. And what the leftists want, quite frankly, they usually get.

This isn’t over. And V.P. Joe or no, there’s a good chance Romney/Ryan, bludgeoned by the media and Obama’s minions, overwhelmed by an energized Obama/Radical Woman ticket, will lose.

So Obama might be switching out Biden, incompetent fool, for Hillary Clinton, an incompetent drunk fool.

*hic!*

Wait until September 7, then beat the “Crazy Uncle Joe” drum like you’re in the Madison Capitol. Make them own their own.

Maybe Joe should spend the 80+ days until the election in an “undisclosed location”.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/19/joe-biden-bunker-vp-revea_n_205515.html

Republicans need to start calling for Biden to step down.

We all know Obama will refuse to even consider any idea that comes from us!

I say either Biden or Barr (Roseanne Barr).

Sarah Palin’s block was a chess move of Gary Kasparov brilliance. Dem’s trash Sarah constantly, and habitually. Sarah says that she thinks it would be smart of the Dem’s to boot Biden and go with Hillary… therefore it must be a stupid move, and it must make them look stupid if they do it.

WHite House Press Conference: “Mr. President what made you take Sarah Palin’s advice and go with Hillary?” “Well I Uh well uh you know… Hey, Mitt Romney is going to kill your babies with an automatic 22 caliber shotgun!!!” “Thank you Mr. President for enlightening us with your vast store of wisdom … you have explained everything.”

Well if there is a change, then the Ohio Ballot will still have Biden’s name on it. The cutoff for any changes has just expired.

But, there might be a Friendly Democratic Judge to allow the change.

Won’t happen with the Secretary of State, he is GOP guy. Also, the Supremes here in Ohio lean Republican.

Henry Hawkins | August 16, 2012 at 3:55 pm

Obama’s putative new VP…….. Eric Holder.

(((shudder)))

Richard Aubrey | August 16, 2012 at 4:02 pm

My view may be clouded by the ferocity with which I despise the Clintons. But…. Is there anybody who likes them? Is there anybody who thinks they’re smart–except in a self-interested way–or honorable, or competent?
I can’t see a vote for either of them in any situation being motivated by anything other than–“If he/she is elected, I’ll get more free stuff.”

    For any who need to be reminded of Bill Clinton’s infamy, it is neatly summarized here: DiscovertheNetworks.org/A Guide to the Political Left – http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=644

    Arguably, his most egregious sin, is blocking communication between the FBI and the CIA which were investigating illegal Chinese contributions to U. S. Presidential campaigns and the Democrat party. Here’s an excerpt:

    “The Clinton Administration Erects a “Wall of Separation” between Law-Enforcement and Intelligence:

    It should be noted that at the time Gorelick penned the aforementioned memo, Mr. Clinton was worried about ongoing FBI and CIA investigations into illegal Chinese contributions that had been made to U.S. presidential campaigns. Both the FBI and the CIA were churning up evidence damaging to the Democratic Party, its fundraisers, the Chinese, and ultimately the Clinton administration itself.”

It’s going to be a hard decision for Obama and Michelle to ever accept Hillary. I think their dislike for the Clintons at least matches Michelle’s dislike of Oprah.

Hillary isn’t exactly gaff free herself.

Stupid liberal women will go wild if she’s picked.I really don’t need any more horror added to this election cycle so I say stick with Joe.

    NC Mountain Girl in reply to Benson II. | August 16, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    I tend to agree. Unless Bill is at her side who does Hillary really appeal to apart from a few college educated women her own age who still fondly recall the thrills they got from reading Germain Greer? Hillary is far from a natural at one on one campaigning. She’s not a good speachmaker. She’s shown several times that she can’t develop a long term winning strategy. Perhaps most damning she doesn’t intimidate anyone. At the level Hillary strives for successful women use an often intense femininity to both disarm and intimidate their critics. Hillary does neither. Having bought into the women as victim scenario she bludgeons instead.

Biden has been saying crazy things for years.

It’s no surprise that he’s sunk to race baiting in this presidential campaign.

And let’s remember this comment from Obama. I guess, in order to portray consumers, Biden had to put on that deep-Southern accent.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-supports-biden-after-chains-remark-20120815,0,2273976.story

From the article:

Rather than being about “division and hate and anger,” as Mitt Romney said of Biden’s remarks, the president said his running mate was saying only that “you, consumers, the American people, will be a lot worse off if we repeal these [Wall Street reform] laws, as the other side is suggesting.”

“In no sense was he trying to connote something other than that,” Obama told the magazine during an interview in Iowa, where he’s been campaigning this week.

Maybe I’m too cynical, but I think Biden’s gaffs, gaucheries and odd behavior is deliberate, planned.

Think not? Hasn’t the message been received by black voters? The campaign completely got away with one of the ugliest examples of political racial rhetoric since Segregation ended.

Joe blurts out lies and hate speech with complete impunity, he knows he will not be called on it. Even Biden’s most outrageous statements are shrugged off by a complicit media.

Good ole Bumbling Joe is the perfect foil to Obama’s effete cool.

TrooperJohnSmith | August 16, 2012 at 4:10 pm

I called it back in April. Hitlery for Biden, as Biden steps on his……..tongue.

Y’all can send my pool winnings to Trooper John Smith, c/o General Delivery, Fort Phantom Hill, TX 79601.

It would be a lot smarter of them to replace the top of the ticket. He makes Biden look good!

Biden and Obama are each others best justification for remaining on the ticket.

How about composite Indian, Liz Warren…hahahahaha

NC Mountain Girl | August 16, 2012 at 5:10 pm

Hillary is in a tough spot whether she is on the ticket or not. If Obama wins the odds are the nation will be more than ready for a Republican in 2016. If he loses and it isn’t a complete debacle Obama could very well be the frontrunner for 2016. Then there is the huge problem that time is not Hillary’s friend for two reasons. First while she may be the same age as Mitt Romney she looks and acts far older. Second her style and the career choices she made are a turnoff to many younger voters, including younger women. By 2016 she could seem even more dated than McCain did in 2008.

“Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.”
Ecclesiastes 1:2

Biden will not “bow out for the good of the party.” He’ll hang on for dear life.

Obama may give him the ax, because of his obvious mental deficiency (though it didn’t stop Obama from picking him for VP in the first place), but will not replace him with Hilary. She is too popular with the base and came too close to beating him for the nomination.

If Biden is replaced on the ticket, it will be by a complete zero, similar in skill and thoughtfulness to Biden himself. Maybe Chuckie Schumer or Leaky Leahy. Someone of that high caliber.

hillary was president once….we tend to forget that..god the clintons are a cancer.

Palin knows that Democrats immediately reject anything she says, so I think it’s very possible that she spoke out to prevent Obama from adding Hillary to the ticket. Obama-Clinton would be a much more formidable ticket than Obama-Biden, although I’m not convinced Hillary would see this as a win for her.

However, I’m not convinced Biden is acting off-the-cuff. He was the one who first broached recognizing gay marriage, just before Obama “evolved” on the issue. In retrospect, I think Biden was deliberately testing the waters on gay marriage. I think Biden is doing the same thing here, only this time the Obama campaign is about to play the racism card.

    bjm in reply to DRJ. | August 16, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    Exactly. Biden floats an idea…tests the political waters…then Obama makes his move.

    Biden may not have been the sharpest knife in the Congressional drawer, but he wasn’t known as Senator MasterCard for nothing.

In all seriousness, what is most offputting about Biden lately — to me — is not so much his words as it is his affect. He raises his voice wierdly in ways that don’t sinch up with his message. He smiles and laughs at points that seem inappropriate. It is almost what you would expect to see happening to someone who is beginning to show symptoms of neurological disease.

Maybe he’ll get Warren on the ticket? That would be good. Hillary? Not so good.

The Onion should do an article about how Biden is upset by all of Obama’s gaffes.

Or is he trying to abandon ship while the abandoning is good?

Me, I’d be sending my resume’s out by the ream to any place west of the Potomac. (under an assumed name)

BannedbytheGuardian | August 17, 2012 at 3:20 am

Seems to me Palin summed it up in the VP debate of 08.

“There you go again’ .

To really put the insanity or dim thing to rest , he should be asked about his comment in the debate about America teaming up with France to rid Lebanon of Hizbollah.

I have not really recovered from that one.

As VP he went to Ukraine & mocked Russia 2 weeks before the electionsthat returned the pro Russia side.

And he is a foreign policy expert ?

[…] Yesterday, President Obama met with Biden and Clinton at a lunch, which led to speculation about Obama replacing Biden after his series of gaffes. […]

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