Did Hillary say no?
Hillary Clinton had already indicated she would not be open to replacing Joe Biden as VP on the Obama ticket prior to yesterday’s lunch, according to a Washington Examiner report out today.
At an earlier lunch with Valerie Jarrett, says source, author Ed Klein, Clinton rejected the idea, for fear of being tied to Obama’s far-left policies and that she didn’t want to go down with the Obama ship, were he to lose:
“As recently as a couple of weeks ago, the White House was putting out feelers to see if Hillary Clinton was interested in replacing Joe Biden on the ticket,” Klein told Secrets. “Bill Clinton, I’m told, was urging his wife to accept the number two spot if it was formally offered. Bill sees the vice presidency as the perfect launching pad for Hillary to run for president in 2016.”
Yesterday, President Obama met with Biden and Clinton at a lunch, which led to speculation about Obama replacing Biden after his series of gaffes.
But don’t rule out a future presidential run from Hillary, says Klein:
Klein has sources deep in the Clinton camp and he said that they said she is eager for a rest followed by a makeover. “She clearly is exhausted. She needs to lose weight and get her energy back for a four-year slog.”
He added that Obama has never talked to Clinton about replacing Biden. The reason, said Klein, is that Obama was afraid she would turn him down and Bill Clinton would leak the snub to the media.
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Afraid of being tied to Obama’s far-left policies? Since when are her own policies anything other than far-left?
And it’s too late for her to abandon the Obama ship, at least as far as the administration’s foreign policy failures are concerned. It was Hillary holding the Russian “reset button” in the news photos…
You are so right, the Clinton’s are One World Global Communists … it was the GOP and its majority that held Bill Clinton back and therefore ‘let’ him take up the mantle of centrist.
They’re fricken criminals .. how in the world can she get away with directing $125 million to Bill’s bogus charity. -the world should be up to its ears in $7 dollar cookstoves by now.
“Klein has sources deep in the Clinton camp and he said that they said she is eager for a rest followed by a makeover.”
The Clintons are getting on my last nerve. They’re the ones who “pioneered” having theme backdrops and signs on the podium. They think they can shove anything by the American people if they just package it the right way.
Reminds me of Schroeder playing his little toy piano for Lucy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie0lJ1QCHZ4) She didn’t recognize the tune until it came out on the darn toy piano–the lefty way is to obscure the toy-piano quality of their thought (See Pelosi, N., “We’ve got to pass it to see what’s in it.”)
Who cares? Hillary can be VP if she wants or Biden. Despite the gaffs the albatross on the campaign is Obama. His whole presidency has been one long clueless gaff.
True. Owebama is by far the largest albatross, at least as we see it. But Biden’s got a pretty wide wingspan himself.
I’m sending up prayers that owe sticks with Joe.
As for Hitliary, if owe really wanted to bitch-slap her, he’d ask someone else to step in as VP. That would really frost her boxers.
So she’ll just remain drunk, flying around the world, helping to d destroy the foreign policy of the United States.
She might not want to be tied to Obama’s policies, but she is, all right — and hard.
It’s up to us to make sure America remembers what she did in Libya, Egypt and how she is so willfully plotting against Israel. Or maybe she will try to defend herself by claiming she was having blackouts.
By 2016 REAL hope and REAL change will have taken place. Hillary will then have to join DWTS to stay in the public spotlight.
Re Hillary Clinton, Secretary of Inebriation, this sits squarely, right on her empty head:
‘Egypt considering violating peace treaty with Israel:’
1. This first: the report is speculative. Sources about the supposed particulars of highly sensitive, highly confidential discussions (if they occurred) are not named.
2. If the report is true, it is encouraging. It indicates that Hillary has learned nothing from her failed health care initiative, her failed 2008 campaign, and her failure at State. She remains arrogant to the point of self-sabotage.
3. As she ages, the face of Hillary the 1960s “idealist” is completing the transition into the face of a supercilious grande dame. Not surprising to someone with a sense of history, but still amusing.
4. Speaking of amusement, if Scott Brown succeeds in blundering away his Senate seat, watch Hillary and Fauxcahontas go at each other in 2016.
If this story is correct, it may indicate that the Clintons believe Obama is going to lose this election. More likely, it is akin to what is attributed to Hillary Clinton – if she enters the 2016 race as the outgoing VP, she’ll have to defend whatever has happened with the implementation of Obamacare over the past four years (2012-2016), among all manner of other crap an unfettered Obama will impose on the country. Remember how all the good stuff was preloaded in time for 2012, and the bad stuff comes later? 2016 is past that later.
Hilary Clinton cannot be helped by hitching her wagon to Obama. She doesn’t need his help to be a Dem frontrunner for 2016 – she’s already there. She needs four years as Obama’s second term VP like a hole in the head.
On the other hand, becoming Obama’s second term VP (should he win, of course) might be her quickest path – by acceding to the presidency after Obama is impeached. Heh.
Hillary’s sell by date was November 2008.
In hindsight, her best chance was in 2004, but she declined to take the shot that Bill Clinton took in 1992.
I think that you’re right. If it wasn’t 2008, it certainly isn’t any later than 2012. She’ll be sixty-five in October, which means that she’ll be sixty-nine come the 2016 Presidential election. She looks to me as if she has some health problems (that’s an observation, not a hope; I don’t wish health problems on anybody), and I doubt that she’s going to be looking any better or doing any better physically in four years. If she isn’t on the Democrat Presidential ticket this year (or if she is, but Romney is elected), her Presidential hopes are gone. And you may well be right that they’re already gone.
I concur with your assessment of her health. Its unlikely that it would ever be reported but it appears that Sec. Clinton is showing early signs of Osteoporosis and Scoliosis of her neck (her head is moving farther forward in pictures taken of her, and her posture is changing from shoulders back and upright to shoulders slightly rolled forward).
During her recent trip to South Africa (I think) she was recorded dancing and I thought she looked rather stiff. She appeared like she was having a good time, but her side to side movements seemed like it was putting strain on her knees consistent with a person of her age.
Parts of the body do wear out, and with the amount of walking the Sec. Clinton has done through her own campaigns and with Bill Clinton during his campaigns, I’m surprised BOTH of their knees aren’t wrecked already.
It could be Bill is putting this line out there so Obama would make a formal offer. The press is working overtime to undermine Biden right now so it could be they see the only way to save their boyfriend is to put Hillary on the ticket with him.
I just don’t buy Bill Clinton would see the VP slot as a perfect launching pad for Hillary in 2016. She’s already the top choice in polling and after 8 years of Dems in the White House her chances against a wide bench of rising GOP stars would be reduced. Unless Bill thinks Hillary will miraculously turn this failed presidency around, she will be left defending 8 years of failure while she makes her case in 2016.
This smells like the same sort of sabotage Bill pulled when he urged Obama to go ahead and pass Obamacare. Does anyone really think he believes he lost his House because he failed to pass HillaryCare?
The Clintons are nothing if not politically savvy. Hillary, as a former first lady, had nothing to run with on her resume. Now, with Obama presumably losing in 2012, Hillary will have been a former Senator, a former Secretary of State, and will be running for a second time around.
Whether Hillary is the “right” type of Democrat for the party to nominate in 2016 is another thing entirely. My thought process is they think they can replicate Obama over and over… get a newcomer into office, whether a Senator or Governor, with as little public record as possible, and then run them for the Presidency before the American electorate catches on that said person is a radical Leftist/Progressive/Socialist. If they can get a minority candidate, bonus, because they can double down on playing the race/bigot card.
I agree with you, the Dems will probably continue to lean towards new faces but which ones? They have very few if any rising stars on the horizon. I would have guessed Cuomo but progressives hate him. They are just delusional enough to think our gal Fauxcahontas is the ticket. I would love to see them nominate her but she’s having trouble in MA. How likely is it she would be able to pull off winning the nomination?
You are right minorities. It bugs the left and the media BIRM, that we keep electing strong hispanic candidates. Who have they elected? I think they have one hispanic mayor in Texas or CA, I forget which. Granted O went from Illinois State Senate to the White House but even he admits he caught lightening in a bottle along the way. I just don’t see who they have besides Hillary. Truth be told, I think Bill wants it way more than she does too. Should be interesting to watch this all play out.
The Dems have to get Fauxcahontas into the Senate first. Failing that, I wouldn’t discount her trying to stay relevant by running for Governor of Massachusetts.
Speaking of the Governor of Massachusetts, I would say keep your eye on Deval Patrick. Martin O’Malley, Governor of Maryland, is a likely contender in 2013. Kristen Gillibrand is being floated as a possible Veep, as long as Cuomo doesn’t get the nom… can’t have two people being residents of the same state on a Presidential ticket. The only other candidate I can think of is Montana governor Brian Schweitzer.
How likely is it she would be able to pull off winning the nomination? Without holding a statewide race – very, very unlikely.
Other minority candidates? You can be sure they’re being groomed, but we’re unlikely to see them (beyond Deval Patrick or Corey Booker) running for the Presidency for at least 12 to 20 years.
But yeah… the big story of minority politicians are coming from the Right. But the story of minority candidates on the Right is because they are getting elected on ideas, ideology, and vision, not on identity politics.
Well, I think Hillary is every bit as hot as Janet Reno was.
If Obama dumps Biden through “Heath reasons”, and offers the job to Hillary:
+) It raises the number of D votes in November from additional women and minorites, plus the Hillary True Believers that would otherwise have set this one out.
+) It gets rid of the Gaffemaster.
-) It increases R votes from the ABC crowd (Anybody But Clinton)
-) It gets Bill involved in the campaign
-) If Hillary is added to the ticket and Obama still loses, the Clintons take a *huge* hit, and the chances of Hillary2016 are nil.
There will not be an official request made public unless Obama is 100% sure she will accept. Until that exact moment, every single official quote will be “Oh no, we’re not considering it, never, nope, not us….”
Hillary in 2016 is a joke. (Well, she is a joke.) If Romney is elected, he’ll likely be re-elected.
And given the likelihood of her needing a liver transplant by 2016, she won’t be a factor.
The biggest democrat loser in all this is the de facto US Secretary of State, Huma Abedin (wife of Anthony “Look At My” Weiner).
Lay off the ‘Hillary is a drunk’ stuff. If anyone gets a pass for drunkenness, it’s Mrs. Bill Clinton.
I think Paul Ryan may have hurt her chances more than anything.
She’s definitely the old guard of the democrats now. Will be more so in 4 years. Ryan’s the next generation. So is Obama. I would think it harder for dems to vote for a 68 year old next time around.
And the elevation of Elizabeth Warren to Vice President in 3, 2, 1 begins.
Hillary to Obama: F.U.
The dumb punk Klein only thinks he has “sources deep in the Clinton camp.” Anything he gets as a “leak” is exactly what they want him to have – and to publish.
It may or may not be true, in whole or in part. The only thing certain about leaks from the “Clinton camp” is that they are designed to promote the Clintons, nothing more.
It is just cover for Bill that he advocated Hillary take it. Bill doesn’t like or trust Obama.
Although BO may have considered a change, I think his lust for power is only exceeded by his pride. Therefore, it is this that will prevent him from making, what I believe to be, a very necessary change.
“Obama was afraid she would turn him down and Bill Clinton would leak the snub to the media.”
So Slick Willie can be useful to the American people. 😀
Sec. Hillary Clinton will not be running for President in 2016, for the simple reason that I have cited before about why Gov. Palin would be able to wait until 2016 or 2020 to run: AGE.
By election day 2016, Clinton would have just turned 69 years old. Sec. Clinton looked tired by the time she was outmaneuvered in the 2008 elections. She won’t have the stamina nor the political will to be able to maintain a Presidential Campaign at age 69. She just won’t be able to keep up the pace.
The only reason that Newt Gingrich could have possibly pulled it off this time around is that he has aged remarkably well, and even then people were discussing how old he was. Sec. Clinton has not aged nearly as well, and 4 more years of time will only be more draining on her health and vitality.
Hillary is too smart to take that offer.
First -given an Obama win- as many have observed, she would be stuck with owning Obamacare. She would also be tarred with whatever other economic foolishness Teh Won would get into during a second term. I seriously doubt he would change his policies very much. That connection would almost certainly kill any chance in ’16, and I think she knows it. Old adminstration stinks cling; look what happened to Gore in 2000; he should have beat Bush like a red-headed stepchild in K-Mart, what with the economy he “inherited.” Yet he lost, no doubt to due the unpleasant after-odor of Slick Willy.
One of the HillBuzz fellas came up with another reason which had not occurred to me. Assume Hillary accepts the VP slot, and Obama loses. She can read the tea leaves, and she has a good idea of how bad it is (it’s still “the economy, stupid!”). If that happens, she will become the next Sarah Palin. Democrats will revile her as the reason Obama lost the election, just like Country Club Republicans blamed Sarah for the ’08 loss. Consider the irony there. 🙂
Hillary is already tarred as a shill for the obama administration. I don’t doubt for a moment that everything she did in State was under obama’s orders. She really put herself into a box by taking that slot. The worst decision she ever made was to accept that job. Other than to marry Bill, of course. But that is a political partnership not a marriage and worked out very well for him.
If obama dumps Joe he will pick an up and coming newcomer from one of the swing states preferbly a hispanic with not much history but good looking. What would be the use of picking someone from a state he already owns. It will be either that or name recognition (a fact that gets the most peopole elected). It will not be anybody from NY or MA. Either one of those would be a turnoff to the swing states. Then again, who knows? Obama did pick Biden, after all and he didn’t pull him down.
There are some governors that could bolster the ticket but they know how corrupt this administration is and want to keep clean. Even though a vice president has little authority and hence little responsibility, they do sit in on meetings and can not deny criminal knowledge. None want to ruin their life by being part of this chamber of lies, deceit, and abject failure.
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