For Special Counsel Robert Hur, Vindication Day Has Arrived
“The presidential debate last night was chilling to watch as President Joe Biden clearly struggled to retain his focus and, at points, seemed hopelessly confused. The winner was clear: Special Counsel Robert Hur…”
The findings of Special Counsel Robert Hur back in February regarding Joe Biden’s age and memory issues marked the official beginning of the unraveling of the facade carefully painted by Biden’s apologists in the White House and media regarding his mental acuity.
Hur, as Legal Insurrection readers will recall, had been appointed by Dept. of Justice Attorney Gen. Merrick Garland in January 2023 to investigate the Biden classified documents case to see if there was any “there” there to the allegations of Biden improperly retaining and carelessly storing classified documents.
When his report was released earlier this year, a firestorm erupted over the conclusions he drew about Biden’s recollection of events. Among Hur’s observations:
We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.
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Mr. Biden’s memory also appeared to have significant limitations-both at the time he spoke to Zwonitzer in 2017, as evidenced by their recorded conversations, and today, as evidenced by his recorded interview with our office. Mr. Biden’s recorded conversations with Zwonitzer from 2017 are often painfully slow, with Mr. Biden struggling to remember events and straining at times to read and relay his own notebook entries.
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In his interview with our office, Mr. Biden’s memory was worse. He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended (“if it was 2013 – when did I stop being Vice President?”), and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began (“in 2009, am I still Vice President?”). He did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died.
That same day, a visibly angry Biden held an impromptu press conference to attempt to refute the claims made by Hur — and instead ended up proving his point:
A lost Joe Biden refers to Egyptian President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi as the "president of Mexico" pic.twitter.com/aeedhOK0JF
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) February 9, 2024
Democrats and the media pounced and seized on Hur, attacking his credibility and claiming he went too far in his role with his descriptive terms of Biden’s decline.
Vice President Kamala Harris wasted no time in trying to save her boss’s bacon, attacking Hur’s integrity and declaring without evidence that Hur’s comments were “politically motivated”:
“Listen, I have been privileged and proud to serve as vice president of the United States with Joe Biden as president of the United States. And what I saw [in] that report last night, I believe, as a former prosecutor, the comments that were made by that prosecutor [were] gratuitous, inaccurate and inappropriate.”
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“So the way that the president’s demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more wrong on the facts and clearly politically motivated, gratuitous. And so I will say that when it comes to the role and responsibility of a prosecutor in a situation like that, we should expect that there would be a higher level of integrity than what we saw.”
Harris attacking someone else’s integrity considering her history of going the extra mile to get ahead in politics going back to the early days of her time on the California political scene was something else, but I digress.
A Congressional hearing was held a month later, during which Republicans grilled Hur for not recommending charges against Biden. Democrats tried to spin his report as an “exoneration” of Biden and cast Hur as a bad-faith actor who wanted a job in a future Trump administration.
Biden’s nightmarish performance at Thursday night’s presidential debate, where he was hoarse, was forgetful at times, and was often seen standing there with his mouth partially open was, in the eyes of many, a vindication of sorts for Hur:
The presidential debate last night was chilling to watch as President Joe Biden clearly struggled to retain his focus and, at points, seemed hopelessly confused. The winner was clear: Special Counsel Robert Hur…https://t.co/bFjJwLx8wj
— Jonathan Turley (@JonathanTurley) June 28, 2024
Robert Hur must feel pretty vindicated this morning.
— Scott Jennings (@ScottJenningsKY) June 28, 2024
"A sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory."
A lot of Democrats owe Robert Hur an apology.
— Jeff Jacoby (@Jeff_Jacoby) June 28, 2024
I'm wondering if Special Counsel Robert Hur is a "I told ya so kinda guy"
— Sean Spicer (@seanspicer) June 28, 2024
Special Counsel Robert Hur got an early glimpse of what the country saw last night and may have tried to convey a warning. He was savaged and maligned by the White House, by prominent Democrats and by partisan pundits.
— Ken Dilanian (@KenDilanianNBC) June 28, 2024
Robert Hur walking into the office tomorrow like pic.twitter.com/yVN3vg2XTv
— Sunny (@sunnyright) June 28, 2024
The alarming visuals of Biden from the debate also prompted renewed calls for the DOJ to once and for all release the Hur/Biden tapes:
Consider last night’s debate and now imagine how bad the Robert Hur audio actually is. 😳
— Jason Rantz on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) June 28, 2024
Maybe Merrick Garland should stop hiding behind hypertechnical legal bullshit and release the Robert Hur recordings.
— Ken Gardner (@KenGardner11) June 28, 2024
this makes the burying of audio of the Hur report even more damning – its not just a crime, its the cover up.
— GregGutfeld (@greggutfeld) June 28, 2024
The transcripts are readily available, but Biden has asserted executive privilege over the tapes. And now the American people know exactly why.
— Stacey Matthews has also written under the pseudonym “Sister Toldjah” and can be reached via Twitter. —
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Robert Hur vindicated for his characterization of Biden for sure and every person with personal access to Biden who damn well knew the truth but lied about should be run out of public life or at least have this mind around their neck for the rest of their life. Every time they go on a media hit or are making a run at an elected or appointed office they should be confronted about their blatant dishonesty and lack of integrity. Lying liars should always pay the price for their lies IMO, never to be trusted with any task more important than digging ditches. At least there we can see in real time if they dug deep and wide enough for the required distance in the time allotted.
The only task they are qualified for is bed pan duty at the local VA.
As a Veteran, I want nothing to do with them, please keep them away from me instead of inflicting them upon us.
Chief. If that were the case, there would be no media. They are the biggest liars of them all, followed by many Congress Critters, Republican and Democrat alike.
There’s plenty of honest folks in new media out there to take their place. As for many in DC…sure, we will always have a need for folks to serve as a ‘hewer of wood and drawer of water’.
I can understand Lady Macbeth but I would expect that the White House physician is feeling more than a bit exposed.
Biden was known as a retard from back in the 70s. Everyone knew the guy was a complete moron. He was a joke in the Barky administration – which is really saying something, seeing the monumental morons that comprised that junta.
Hur only further advertised something that was well known by all for some time – some long time. What Hur really did was infuriate people with his own idiocy of trying to find an excuse not to recommend that Traitor Joe be criminally charged (for one of the lesser crimes he has committed, compared to the real doozies). And Hur’s own argument was nonsensical and out-of-place – it was not to him to decide that a clearly guilty person would be acquitted solely by virtue of jury nullification and that, therefore, no charge should even be presented.
We have all known that Traitor Joe has been knee deep in dementia for years. Hur was not trying to advertise that fact; he was trying to use it to worm his way out of having to recommend criminal charges for Traitor Joe, even after he determined that Traitor Joe was definitely guilty (as was easy for anyone to determine in this case just by the publicly known information).
If Biden is too infirm to be prosecuted, he is too infirm to be president.
But “Doctor” Jill loves being First Lady and a shadow president.
But at least we don’t have any more mean Tweets, right? Right?!!?? 🙄
That is not how it works.
It’s how it works to reasonable people.
No, it’s not how it works at all. It’s not how it has ever worked. It doesn’t matter how you think it should work, or how you would like it to work.
LOL. “ever worked” … okey doke. This sort of thing happens all the time and it’s never “worked” like this .,..
I don’t think you even have a clue what you think you are responding to. It is an obvious fact that someone who is incompetent to stand trial is clearly incompetent to hold the Presidency. That is a fact. It is not a matter of “how it works”. And that is all that AF_Chief_Master_Sgt said.
You will defend the most fucked up bullshit I have ever seen.
To you, your fellow Democrats are untouchable. For you to defend a meat puppet like Biden, the so called President is beyond the pale.
That is how it works. This man needs a 25th Amendment action.
THAT’S how it works.
I love watching you and Captain Mensa Mc Know-it-All fight. 😂
And again you expose yourself as a filthy liar who doesn’t give a shit about the truth. You have no right to comment on any matter of public concern, since you don’t believe in objective truth and just make stuff up to attack anyone you don’t like.
That is not how it works.
That’s exactly how it works.
If the President is too infirmed to be prosecuted because of his lack of mental acuity and legal competency to assist in his defense, he is too “compromised” to lead the nation.
The 25th Amendment was passed for just such a case where a President is incapable of doing their job.
That’s not what the 25th amendment says. The 25th says it’s entirely up to the VP and the cabinet, and then the Congress. If they want him to remain in charge then he remains no matter how incompetent he is.
We know that Biden said he went into politics for easy money. We know that Biden collected a large number of classified documents, We know that Biden has been wheeling and dealing from the time he went into politics, and we know that America’s enemies where channeling large amounts of money to the Biden Syndicate.
Damning
Really?! When did he ever say that?
No, we don’t know that either. We don’t know when he started taking bribes. For all we know it may have been decades into his career.
Puh-leeeeassse. DOCTOR!!! Jill’s first husband tells the story about what a slime bag Biden was before he ever got into Congress and how he sicced Delaware and the feds on him way, way back over the divorce from DOCTOR!!! Jill.
People have known that Biden was a corrupt criminal and a vindictive prick of the worst sort for the entirety of his time in Congress. That is who he is – and his whole demented, criminal family, too. He’s been shielded by the intelligence services for DECADES, so that tell you – well, it tells anyone who has some common sense – that he’s been dirty all that time, at the very least.
In case you are also unaware of obvious facts that everyone in Washington has always known – Biden has always been considered a complete moron. He was a joke to most people. For the entirety of his political career.
First of all, why would you believe his story? Any how can you expect anyone else to?
Second, he doesn’t even claim Biden was “a slime bag” before getting into Congress, let alone that he was taking bribes then. You made that up.
How could a newly-elected senator have “sicced Delaware and the feds on him”? Where would he get that kind of clout?
Who are these alleged “people” who ” have known that Biden was a corrupt criminal and a vindictive prick of the worst sort for the entirety of his time in Congress”?
The fact is that we have no evidence of his taking bribes until the last few decades. Anything earlier than that is speculation.
Biden said what again? You’re so hilarilously delusional. Go back to your fancy takes on black people. Those are entertaining, too.
a) He didn’t say it would be nullification, he said a sympathetic jury would buy his old man act and acquit him.
b) it was very much his place to decide that. It is unethical to bring charges, no matter how guilty you think the person is, if you know you’re unlikely to get a conviction. It is a prosecutor’s duty to make that assessment.
That’s jury nullification, genius. “We know you’re guilty but we feel bad for you, so … ‘not guilty'”.
No, that is not nullification at all. You are reading things in that are simply not there. Nobody suggested that the jury would know he was guilty and acquit him anyway. What he said was that a sympathetic jury would be likely to genuinely buy his old man act, and thus legitimately acquit him.
Hur wrote exactly that. He said that it was without doubt that Biden intentionally took classified documents and broke the law. No question about that. That is … what we call “guilt”. It was open and shut, according to Hur. But Biden would be too sympathetic (LOL) and the jury would let him go because he was so pathetic, now. That is what we call …. “jury nullification”.
Hur did not say that Biden would be deemed incompetent to stand trial but that he would be let loose by a jury with sadz for him.
Are you retarded?
Uh … no. Someone who is thought to be guilty, and certainly for which there is a ton of evidence in plain black and white – especially of serious charges – is to be brought to trial, whether a conviction is likely or not. Prosecutors are not expected to have 100% conviction rates and that is not what their job is.
That is just wrong. Prosecutorial ethics demand that you don’t charge someone unless you think you have a reasonable prospect of convicting him. Bringing charges without a reasonable prospect of conviction is vindictive and deeply unethical, because it”s deliberately using the process as a punishment.
That’s insane. If a prosecutor has evidence that someone committed murder then it is the duty of that prosecutor to charge that person and try him even though a jury might be thought likely to acquit him, against the evidence. The prosecutor’s duty is to the public, and if he has evidence of a murder it is his job to prosecute that, no matter what.
Yeah. tell us about Prosecutorial Ethics Einstein. President Trump would like your take on the matter.
Again, you are wrong. It is a prosecutor’s duty not to bring charges without a reasonable prospect of conviction. You are simply an unethical person.
Clearly there is no longer any need for anyone to actually HEAR the recording that Hur made!
Disagree 100%. Pile on and kick him when he is down.
I am surprised that Trump didn’t go for the jugular. But I am glad he didn’t. Dementia Joe was capable of outing himself without Trump’s assistance.
But the “I don’t think he knows what he said either” was classic.
It’s up there with “I refuse to use your youth and inexperience against you.”
He really can’t, though, being only three years younger. And attacking a clearly enfeebled person might not sit well with some voters Trump needs. I am loving his restraint here, and I hope against hope that he keeps it up. He’s behaving like a statesman, and it’s good to see.
It is not, and never has been, Biden’s age. It is his impairment. My father is 91, and he is as sharp as ever, so long as he is not tired. When he gets tired and tries to recall something, in may not come to him. Rest him up again, and he’s fine. This is normal, healthy aging. Many, many of the adults in the audience have seen this in their parents.
Biden isn’t healthy. He has moments of incoherence and what looks almost like paralysis or a stroke on nearly every public occasion. And clips of this behavior were circulating BEFORE the last election.
Kamala Harris, and everybody else around Biden are lying through their teeth. This kind of impairment cannot be hidden, was poorly hidden, and they denied the blatantly obvious as politically motivated exaggeration.
Trump is clearly healthy, and that makes all the difference.
And yet, by your own words, you still won’t vote for Trump.
This is a perfect time to play the “What goes around, Comes
around” with Point : Counter Point and only using the years Joe was putting in time at the White House.
CommoChief I agree, but I want to see 51 Security experts pay first.
Cool. Though IMO those liars should have their clearance and access revoked within an hour of Trump’s inaugural. Then begin putting them through exactly the sort of crap LTG Flynn went through.
“A sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.”
Hooray! Counsel Robert Hur is Vindicated! Well almost vindicated. Biden is not sympathetic nor well-meaning.
But may be vindicated, but he still should be fired.
He had no reason to give Biden a pass. Therefore, it’s my take that Hur was following the orders of Garland. Hur should have recommended prosecution and then force Garland to stop it.
He didn’t say that what Biden was, just that that’s how he would present himself.
Hmmm. Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, yet to Milquetoast, NOT a duck.
Uh huh.
The Democrat apologist strikes again.
Idiot. An act is not reality. Even if a jury buys it. Hur wrote that Biden presented himself at questioning as a confused old man, and that he would undoubtedly do the same to a jury, but not that this was the reality. He predicted that a sympathetic jury was likely to buy the act, implying that he himself did not.
“a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory.”
An unprincipled, duplicitous, plagiarizing tool with unbounded avarice.
As nasty as the attacks have Been, Hur has kept his cool in facing the yellow journalism.
Except the actual audio has either been destroyed or never existed. He will only be validate when the audio is release, otherwise he is part of the cover up.
This is a “time to take the keys away from Grandpa” moment. I plan to leave it to the Dems, as they were the assholes who ran a clearly mentally incompetent candidate and lied about it.
Biden was never smart or honest, but he used to be extremely good at coming across as both. I remember watching his debates with Palin in 2008 and Ryan in 2012. In both he was sharp and on point, and if you didn’t know anything about the subject you would swear he had all his facts down cold and his opponent was making things up. If you did know anything about the subject you’d immediately see it was the opposite, but how many people are that informed?
Particularly with Palin, she had all her facts and he had no idea what he was talking about, but he sounded more confident and more convincing, so the news industry crowned him the debate winner.
Really? In those prior debates, I thought he came off as a half-in-the-bag, bloviating, smirking mick who would finish his toot as soon as the gabfest was done.
he was crowned the winner b/c the lefty has the same pov as the other nazicommunists
Are you frigging kidding me? That the DOJ and its cadre of extra-constitutional special counsel’s doing the political bidding of democrats merits any respect is beyond a joke. If President Trump manages to win reelection, that whole nest of corrupt vipers needs massive reform, not praise.
kamala calls biden ( in so many words) a racist
they give her a promotion
over and over this is what losers/lefty does
TRUMP FIRES THE INCOMPETENT
AFTER GIVING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY
maga!!!
Vindicated?
Isn’t this the guy who decided not to charge Biden for his decades long stealing of classified information because he’s a well meaning old many with memory issues who wouldn’t understand?
Why do we keep letting Democrats commit crimes? Hillary gets off because ‘no one will convict her’ That Clinton minion who stuffed his pants with docs, got caught in the act and was let go. What the hell?
No. He’s not ‘vindicated’–he’s part of the problem.