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First Batch of Jeffrey Epstein Files Released

First Batch of Jeffrey Epstein Files Released

The batch contains no bombshells about Clinton, Trump, Prince Andrew, or Dershowitz. It’s hearsay, allegations, and accusations we have heard before.

Manhattan federal Judge Loretta Preska ordered the release of documents related to the lawsuit Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Guiffe filed against Ghislane Maxwell in 2015.

We have 3 documents: deposition of victim Johanna Sjoberg, motion for joinder in action from Jane Doe #3 and Jane Doe #4, and an email from Epstein to Maxwell.

No bombshells or significant new information.

  • 1. Epstein had connections to everyone.
  • 2. Contains a lot of previously released information from victims.
  • 3. No one has been charged with anything so it is all “alleged.”
  • 4. Some of it, including the portions about Bill Clinton, are hearsay.

I cannot stress this enough: Hearsay, allegations, and we’ve heard many of these accusations before.

No one has been charged with a crime. No one has been convicted of a crime.

Bill Clinton

Bill Clinton is the elephant in the room. The information in the documents regarding Clinton is hearsay.

Victim Johanna Sjoberg only repeated what Epstein said to her. In other words, hearsay. On page 42:

Q. Do you know if Bill Clinton was a friend of Jeffrey Epstein?

A. I knew he had dealings with Bill Clinton. I did not know they were friends until I read the Vanity Fair article about them going to Africa together.

Q. Did Jeffrey ever talk to you about Bill Clinton?

A. He said one time that Clinton likes them young, referring to girls.

On pages 109-110:

Q. [Did you meet] Bill Clinton?

A. No.

Q. Did you see Bill Clinton on the island?

A. No.

Q. Did you see Bill Clinton in a helicopter being flown by Ghislaine Maxwell?

A. No.

Q. Did Ghislaine Maxwell ever tell you that she had flown Bill Clinton in her helicopter?

MS. McCAWLEY: Objection.

THE WITNESS: I don’t recall her saying that.

Donald Trump

On page 19, Sjoberg said they went to one of Trump’s Atlantic City, NJ casinos.

On page 79, Sjoberg said they ended up in Atlantic City because the pilots couldn’t land in New York:

Jeffrey said, Great, we’ll call up Trump and we’ll go to — I don’t recall the name of the casino, but — we’ll go to the casino.

Trump last appeared on page 113 when Sjoberg said she did not have anything sexual with Trump or gave him a massage.

Sjoberg also said that she never saw Virginia with the people listed, including Trump, Alan Dershowitz, George Lucas, Marvin Minsky,

Jane Doe #3

Jane Doe #3 claimed Epstein sexually trafficked her “to many other powerful men, including numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known Prime Minister, and other world leaders.”

Jane Doe #3 also claimed the government knew Epstein sexually trafficked her while developing a non-prosecution agreement since it listed her as victim.

This is an interesting part. Jane Doe #3 accused the government of violating her rights under the Crime Victims’ Rights Act:

Moreover, even a rudimentary investigation of Jane Doe #3’s relationship to Epstein would have revealed the fact that she had been trafficked throughout the United States and internationally for sexual purposes. Nonetheless, the Government secretly negotiated a non-prosecution agreement with Epstein precluding any Federal prosecution in the Southern District of Florida of Epstein and his co-conspirators. As with Jane Doe #1, and Jane Doe #2, the Government concealed the non-prosecution agreement from Jane Doe #3 – all in violation of her rights under the CVRA – to avoid Jane Doe #3 from raising powerful objections to the NPA that would have shed tremendous public light on Epstein and other powerful individuals and that would likely have been prevented it from being concluded in the secretive manner in which it was.

Alan Dershowitz

We already knew one of the then-minor victims accused Dershowitz of sexual abuse.

According to the court, Jane Doe #3, who was 15 then, said this about Dershowitz. Again, remember, these are allegations:

One such powerful individual that Epstein forced then-minor Jane Doe #3 to have sexual relations with was former Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz, a close friend of Epstein’s and well-known criminal defense attorney. Epstein required Jane Doe #3 to have sexual relations with Dershowitz on numerous occasions while she was a minor, not only in Florida but also on private planes, in New York, New Mexico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. In addition to being a participant in the abuse of Jane Doe #3 and other minors, Deshowitz was an eye witness to the sexual abuse of many other minors by Epstein and several of Epstein’s co-conspirators. Dershowitz would later play a significant role in negotiating the NPA on Epstein’s behalf. Indeed, Dershowitz helped negotiate an agreement that provided immunity from federal prosecution in the Southern District of Florida not only to Epstein, but also to “any potential coconspirators of Epstein.” NPA at 5. Thus, Dershowitz helped negotiate an agreement with a provision that provided protection for himself against criminal prosecution in Florida for sexually abusing Jane Doe #3. Because this broad immunity would have been controversial if disclosed, Dershowitz (along with other members of Epstein’s defense team) and the Government tried to keep the immunity provision secret from all of Epstein’s victims and the general public, even though such secrecy violated the Crime Victims’ Rights Act.

Dershowitz appeared in Sjoberg’s deposition when the lawyer asked her about conversations with Virginia and an investigator:

Q. And did she tell you what her side of the story was?

A. You know, just that she wasn’t a liar; that, you know, she was there to have sex with men that Jeffrey wanted her to sleep with.

Q. Did she tell you in that meeting who she had sex with?

A. No.

Q. Did she name any of the famous people?

A. Only Dershowitz came up.

Prince Andrew

Jane Doe #3 also had accusations against Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. From the document (remember, ALLEGATIONS):

Jane Doe #3 was forced to have sexual relations with this Prince when she was a minor in three separate geographical locations: in London (at Ghislaine Maxwell’s apartment), in New York, and on Epstein’s private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands (in an orgy with numerous other under-aged girls). Epstein instructed Jane Doe #3 that she was to give the Prince whatever he demanded and required Jane Doe #3 to report back to him on the details of the sexual abuse. Maxwell facilitated Prince Andrew’s acts of sexual abuse by acting as a “madame” for Epstein, thereby assisting in internationally trafficking Jane Doe #3 (and numerous other young girls) for sexual purposes.

Sjoberg met Andrew in New York. Maxwell showed her a puppet that looked like Prince Andrew. Maxwell showed it to Andrew and wanted a picture of him with it:

A. It looked like him. And she brought it down and presented it to him; and that was a great joke, because apparently it was a production from a show on BBC. And they decided to take a picture with it, in which Virginia and Andrew sat on a couch. They put the puppet on Virginia’s lap, and I sat on Andrew’s lap, and they put the puppet’s hand on Virginia’s breast, and Andrew put his hand on my breast, and they took a photo.

Q. Do you remember who took the photo?

A. I don’t recall.

Q. Did you ever see the photo after it was taken?

A. I did not.

Sjoberg described the encounter with Andrew again when Maxwell’s attorney interviewed her:

THE WITNESS: I just remember someone suggesting a photo, and they told us to go get on the couch. And so Andrew and Virginia sat on the couch, and they put the puppet, the puppet on her lap. And so then I sat on Andrew’s lap, and I believe on my own volition, and they took the puppet’s hands and put it on Virginia’s breast, and so Andrew put his on mine.


Q. And this was done in a joking manner?

MS. McCAWLEY: Objection.


David Copperfield

Sjoberg claimed she met Copperfield and spoke to him:

Q. Did you observe David Copperfield to be a friend of Jeffrey Epstein’s?

A. Yes.

Q. Did Copperfield ever discuss Jeffrey’s involvement with young girls with you?

A. He questioned me if I was aware that girls were getting paid to find other girls.

Q. Did he tell you any of the specifics of that?

A. No.

Q. Did he say whether they were teenagers or anything along those lines?

A. He did not.


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ThePrimordialOrderedPair | January 4, 2024 at 8:22 am

Asked about Epstein’s relationship with Trump he [Bradley Edwards, an attorney who represented a number of those who claimed Epstein was involved in their abuse] replied: “The only thing I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who in 2009, when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people that I wanted to talk to them, he is the only person who picked up the phone and said ‘lets just talk, I’ll give you as much time as you want, I’ll tell you what you need to know.’

Edwards said Trump: “Was very helpful in the information he gave and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever but had good information that checked out and that helped us and that we didn’t have to take a deposition of him.”

    The only thing I remember about Trump and Epstein is when Epstein was at Mar A Lago and Trump was told Epstein was harassing or propositioning women and Trump immediately through him off the property.

…yet another distraction.

It’s been decades and we’re still not being told everything about the JFK assassination. Any individuals responsible are likely dead, and any agency or organization involved likely has a horrible reputation already, and they are all being protected. (So much for us controlling government as opposed to them controlling us, but we already know that’s a fallacy.) If anyone thinks that “they” would allow anyone but current political enemies to be hurt by these documents they’re crazy.

    Mary Chastain in reply to WestRock. | January 4, 2024 at 12:28 pm

    I honestly want to know more about Epstein. You research his background, and there’s not a lot. When I ask my financial friends, they somewhat stumble when trying to…explain him. How did he connect to every powerful politician in the world, connect with all these celebrities, etc? It’s like he popped up out of nowhere.

AF_Chief_Master_Sgt | January 4, 2024 at 9:03 am

Fact. Lots of men abused many young girls and women. Those men are protected because of the positions they hold.

I would present Maxwell with an immunity to spill the beans on every single person involved. But she would have to tell everything and provide proof.

As she said. The men did the abuse, and the only person in jail is a woman.

So G. Maxwell, how much would you tell and would you provide the video and photo evidence?

    Mary Chastain in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | January 4, 2024 at 9:12 am

    She’ll get suicided.

    Precisely. Makes one wonder why her lawyers haven’t played that card yet?

    henrybowman in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | January 4, 2024 at 9:08 pm

    Of course, that’s a lot like saying that a stable of street hookers did all the nasty, so it’s unfair that it’s their pimp in jail for it.

      AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to henrybowman. | January 4, 2024 at 11:11 pm

      Maybe. But you present a strawman argument.

      These weren’t prostitutes. They were underage girls who were being trafficked by Maxwell.

      As the groomer, she has the goods on virtually every swinging dick in this scenario.

      She needs to let the citizens of the US know who in our “elite” are the perverts sticking it to little girls.

      Regarding your prostitute comment. As far as I am concerned, I don’t care what a woman does. After all, haven’t we determined that a woman’s body is her “choice,” whether that includes abortion, being the town bicycle, or any other thing that makes her “feel” good?

        henrybowman in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | January 6, 2024 at 2:35 am

        I knew when I posted that analogy that somebody would think that my reference to street hookers represented Epstein’s girls. No, it was just a comment on how in the general illegal sex trade, pimping is every bit as illegal as actual prostitution — and our jailed Ghislane is a pimp, make no mistake about it.

E Howard Hunt | January 4, 2024 at 9:29 am

The Reversal of Fortune lawyer has forcefully denied these allegations stating that the only person he’s had sex with since his marriage is his wife. This suggests the question: Does there exist a valid legal agreement in which his wife delegates sexual congress to young girls, deeming such congress as being with her?

Attached is an excellent write-up without the need to sensationalize it. Not easy to do with this kind of filth!

I now know 1) what happened, 2) who it happened to, and 3) who did it.

People need to know not to let Bill Clinton anywhere near their daughters of any age

The Gentle Grizzly | January 4, 2024 at 10:41 am

I am being dead-serious when I ask: At this point, what difference does all this make?

This is nothing but click-bait, and the stuff out of which scandal sheets like The Star, People, and US make a big deal.

    Mary Chastain in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | January 4, 2024 at 12:25 pm

    The release is newsworthy. I wrote it in a way to calm down people because I see people on both sides trying to use it against the other when there is nothing to use. It’s why I didn’t include any names in my headline.

      The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Mary Chastain. | January 4, 2024 at 4:27 pm

      “It’s why I didn’t include any names in my headline.”

      And, believe me, I can’t commend you highly enough for that! I’ve seen headlines with names included, and yes, I clicked, only to find out that the list included people who had dinners, or meetings, and nothing more. Repeat: nothing more.

    This article does a good job of explaining what has and has not actually been disclosed.

    Given how sensational the whole thing is, that is a real service.

Think of Epstein Island as a blackmail op and you will be close. Cheers –

The United States didn’t kill itself…

I’m most curious to learn about Bill Gates.

My wife and I watched ABC news to see what their response would be on the released docs about Epstein and we were shocked it was so bad. They put Trump and Clinton side by side on the screen and then read a statement that while Epstein and his gang were coming to NYC one of them said let’s call Trump in Atlantic City and go to his casino. They never mentioned Clinton or his KNOWN 24 trips on the pussy express! In other words. it was all about Trump and they never said one thing that would not cause doubt on his relationship with Epstein. They did not mention that it is a FACT that Trump did NOT go to the island nor ever travel on his plane. Yet they left that out. It was total propaganda and all lies!

The Babylon Bee has compiled the following list of some of the more shocking revelations found in the Epstein documents:

Bill Clinton was only mentioned 50 times: Everyone figured that number would be WAY higher.
The blue temple had a series of puzzles, enemies, and locked doors you had to overcome before you could obtain the sacred gem and proceed to the next temple: It was challenging, but there were reportedly multiple save points.
The most frequent visitor to the island was a guy named “John Doe”: What a sicko.
All the billionaires kept accidentally grabbing Bill Gates’s boobs: Gates is rumored to be cooking up a new virus to get revenge.
Visitors were surprised to find out the island had Mr. Pibb instead of Dr. Pepper: What a disappointment.
Chris Christie was banned from the island after the “buffet incident”: Rumor has it the island was never able to fully restock the kitchen.
David Copperfield was unable to make his name disappear: Some magician he is.
Stephen Hawking claimed to believe he was visiting Einstein Island: Professor Hawking also claimed to have only received a tire rotation while on the island.
The island served as the research headquarters for the Dharma Initiative: Visitors were still unable to ever discover why there were polar bears, underground hatches, and strange whispers on the island.
Epstein actually did kill himself: Who knew?