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DeSantis Winning: Disney Chief Says Backing Off From Culture Wars and Increasing Investment In Florida

DeSantis Winning: Disney Chief Says Backing Off From Culture Wars and Increasing Investment In Florida

“Disney is backing down after DeSantis stood firm. And that’s a good thing conservatives should be celebrating, regardless of who you support for president.”

Despite criticism from the corporate media, the woke left, and some of his GOP presidential campaign opponents like former President Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Nikki Haley, and Chris Christie, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has stood firm in his fight with Disney from the word “go.” Recent news about and announcements from Disney further lend credence to the viewpoint that DeSantis is winning this battle.

According to reports, Disney CEO Bob Iger recently announced that he wants to move beyond the culture wars because they weren’t good for the bottom line:

Walt Disney Co. CEO Bob Iger is promising to lower the temperature after the company stepped deep into the culture wars under his predecessor and angered many conservatives, according to an analyst’s note from this week.

Needham & Company analyst Laura Martin wrote in a report released Wednesday that Iger told investors the day before that his primary goal is to “quiet the noise,” because culture wars are bad for business.

That message was one of Needham’s key takeaways from Disney’s 120-person investor event at Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida, on Tuesday, when the company announced plans to nearly double its investments in amusement parks and cruises to $60 billion over the next decade.

Some of those investments will be in Florida, according to a new SEC filing from Walt Disney Company:

Walt Disney World figures prominently in the slides on the filing, including new cabins for Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort and a massive new high-rise hotel adjacent to Disney’s Polynesian Resort. Disney Cruise Line has a prominent place in the filing as well, and many of its ships sail out of Port Canaveral.

Click here to read the filing (PDF).

As the DC Examiner noted, the announcement of Disney doubling their investments was in addition to other Florida-related projects and plans they reaffirmed their commitment to two weeks ago:

Earlier this month, Disney reiterated its plans to redevelop the Dinoland U.S.A. at Disney’s Animal Kingdom theme park at the Walt Disney World Resort. The company also said it was exploring expansion plans for Magic Kingdom Park, also at the Florida resort.


Disney has seen recent losses in the courtroom, losing its motion to dismiss a countersuit from the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District and electing to drop four out of five claims in its federal lawsuit against the district and DeSantis.

In recent interviews, DeSantis has been peppered with questions about the standoff between the state of Florida and Disney, and as he’s always been on this topic, he was unapologetic in his defense of the actions he and the state legislature have taken against Disney.

In the below ABC News interview clip, DeSantis pushed back against who he called “Old Guard Republicans” like Trump, Pence, Christie, and Haley over their criticisms of his Disney battle, saying that “they basically always just bend the knee to the big, powerful corporations”:

In the below clip from Fox News, DeSantis responded to the report that GOP megadonor Ken Griffin, who backed DeSantis’ 2022 gubernatorial reelection campaign, was currently sitting on the sidelines in the primary due in part to his belief that DeSantis’ war with Disney is, in Griffin’s words, “pointless”:

DeSantis on megadonor refusing to back him over his fight against Disney: “I have 6, 5, AND 3-year-old kids at home. The idea that we are going to allow a company to come in and try to wreak havoc on our education system, injecting transgender ideology in elementary school, negating parents’ rights, that is nonnegotiable for me. We will stand up for our kids, we will stand up for our parents. And, yes, they’re the granddaddy of them all when it comes to FL politics, but I’m happy to stand in the way of that and push back. If we can’t get the education right, if we can’t agree as a society that it’s wrong to tell a 2nd grader that they can change genders, then this country is just not going to succeed…I stand by it 100%.”


In summary, on this issue, it looks like Gov. DeSantis’ refusal to back down was the right call to make:

Hard to argue with that.

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Just the other day a kool-aid drinker was screaming the gov was losing. It seemed like everything else that clown got from the Apperachiks, it was WRONG.

Agreed, standing up and pushing back v the woke corporations is important and very necessary. Being willing to keep pushing back while others who should be allies standing shoulder to shoulder instead choose to step aside or worse choose to support a woke corporation instead very clearly highlights the difference among our political class.

    or maybe Disnet was paying attention to sinking revenues on Disney streaming and movies

      henrybowman in reply to MarkS. | September 24, 2023 at 4:22 am

      Yeah, about that… I’ll believe Iger’s “giving up” when I see product stop coming out of the woke-shit spigot in Orlando. Otherwise, this is just gaslighting, to be filed along with Bill’s “era of big government is over” and Janet’s “I take full responsibility for Waco.”

      A second-order reason for my suspicion is that a company that is hemorrhaging money due to right-wing boycotts plus general public disinterest in their preachy product, somehow has money to throw around to double down on property investments. It’s not impossible, but it’s a level of risk that is far beyond what Iger has shown the balls to take on previously.

I suspect the bottom line was bleeding too much. Commerce before woke.
Too bad for the Libs.

If you ever had a bug zapper, you’ve seen the occasional wasp go flying into it repeatedly, getting zapped over and over again until it eventually gets stuck in the wires and fries or gives up and flies away. DeSantis is the bug zapper, Disney has taken the role of the wasp. The media would take this situation and write headlines like “Evil Bug Zapper Attacks Innocent Wasp” followed by “Triumphant Wasp Returns Home After Furious Battle, Declares Victory.”

    JohnSmith100 in reply to georgfelis. | September 24, 2023 at 12:11 pm

    DeSantis is the bug zapper with Disney and Trump is DesSantis’s bug snapper. I wonder if DeSantis will ever be able to regain Trump’s support?

      Evil Otto in reply to JohnSmith100. | September 26, 2023 at 6:44 am

      Sure. All DeSantis has to do is relentlessly praise Trump, and suddenly he’ll be Trump’s best friend again. Donald loves it when people kiss his ass.

        JohnSmith100 in reply to Evil Otto. | September 26, 2023 at 6:36 pm

        I doubt that Trump will ever trust DeSantis again. Trump might decide that DeSantis is the best choice then and set aside past.

          Evil Otto in reply to JohnSmith100. | September 27, 2023 at 5:48 am

          Why should DeSantis trust Trump? Trump started attacking him during the 2020 gubernatorial race. Trump isn’t an emperor who all must bow and scrape to. Besides, signing on with his administration is a death sentence to a future political career.

President Trump has what, 4 different Soros funded DA’s and the Entire Facists government trying to put him in prison because :

He’s innocent and loves America

But Disney and Ronnie …..

This is Legalinsurrection right?

    Fuck you gonzotx. I don’t care if my post here gets deleted. Your anti DeSantis posts here are getting really old and decrepit, just like you are. I have no idea why LI puts up with you, other than that they are committed to free speech. If this were my blog, you would have been booted off a long time ago. This is not your blog. You are a guest here. You had nothing whatsoever to do with its creation and continuing success. If you tried creating a blog of your own with your posts, you would have only one follower — yourself. But you keep on coming here and shitting on everything you don’t like. Go to hell.

    Nathan Shiba in reply to gonzotx. | September 23, 2023 at 7:10 pm

    So Disney backing down is a bad thing because…?

      No but the world is falling apart, at lest America, our Republic

      Despite if you love President Trump or hate him, for whatever reason

      There are so many things bigger than this

      Biden and his Facists pig government stooges official are trying to imprison the former President for literally trumped up charges, and considering where they are being played out, we know some will stick, regardless that he is innocent

      The destruction of our Country is what matters, this is the fight
      Imprisoning Of your political opponent…

      All the rest, they are important but they are NOT anything I’f we lose the Republic and it’s all hands on deck

        healthguyfsu in reply to gonzotx. | September 23, 2023 at 9:47 pm

        Unlike you, people are able to focus their attention on multiple fronts.

        This Disney fight way precedes Trump’s indictments. You are being disingenuous here, as usual.

        Evil Otto in reply to gonzotx. | September 26, 2023 at 6:50 am

        We can multitask. Taking on Disney is IMPORTANT. As Andrew Breitbart said, “Politics is downstream from culture.” Disney has been a major pusher of woke insanity for years, and it’s about damned time someone slapped them down for it. DeSantis hit the company where it hurts, and yet you attack him constantly because he’s daring to run against your beloved Trump.

        There’s nothing to you, gonzo. No depth, no understanding of strategy or what it’s going to take to make real change.

      The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Nathan Shiba. | September 24, 2023 at 8:12 am

      Because DeSantis forced Disney’s hand.

    caseoftheblues in reply to gonzotx. | September 23, 2023 at 8:15 pm

    Just come out and admit you have an obsessive all-consuming, teenage girl worthy crush on Trump… you’ll feel better … promise

      Not a school girl crush, a desperation to save our Country

      Despite what some here think

      He is the only One….

      I’ve been waiting for someone so rich he couldn’t be bought amd who loved this Country for a long long time

      He is the One…

        inspectorudy in reply to gonzotx. | September 23, 2023 at 11:41 pm

        When you Trump cultists call him the “Only one”, you do realize that you are putting him into the Jesus Christ category? Don’t you think a three-time married, adulterer, slick might just not be at that level of worship?

          You put him in a Jesus category, not me

          But he is the only One that will even attempt to save our Republic

          But you go on telling yourself it’s not all crumbling and little Ronnie could do the job if only the empty vessels would let him

          Not going to happen

          I don’t see why the number of times he’s been married is relevant. But the number of wives he’s cheated on (all three) certainly is.

          Ronald Reagan was married twice, and never cheated on either wife. I’ve never heard him criticized for it, and wouldn’t understand it if he were.

          henrybowman in reply to inspectorudy. | September 24, 2023 at 4:30 am

          “Ronald Reagan was married twice, and never cheated on either wife. I’ve never heard him criticized for it, and wouldn’t understand it if he were.”

          Ronald Reagan was the first divorced president. I for sure remember it being an “issue” at the time (Democrats will pounce on anything to discredit a Republican, and this was just another excuse). I would assume you are old enough to have lived through that period, as I did.

          There are still religions that formally forbid divorce (RC being the prime example), so it does carry a “moral taint” among some segment of the population.

          The Gentle Grizzly in reply to inspectorudy. | September 24, 2023 at 8:17 am

          Trump. Born in the lobby of a golden building. Witnessing were The Three CPAs, bringing journals, P&L statements, stock certificates, and Krugerands.

          But Reagan wasn’t Catholic. So on what basis did anyone make it an “issue”? Atheist Democrats might have tried to make it an issue on the ignorant assumption that this would hurt him with Republican voters, but why would it do that? Even Catholic voters surely don’t expect non-Catholics to abide by their particular rules. It would be like thinking that you could turn Jewish voters against a candidate by publishing a picture of him eating bacon. So long as he isn’t Jewish, why would any Jew object?

        diver64 in reply to gonzotx. | September 24, 2023 at 7:24 am

        Worship can be blinding of reality. Trump’s problems are not his court cases or his being up 60 pts{?}, it’s his polling with the independents who he needs. I’m discounting the wine moms in suburbia who hated his mean tweets. The reality of taxes, gas and hamburger prices skyrocketing under oatmeal brains will over ride their unease. Economics has a way of doing that not to mention his rising numbers with black voters. The loss of the black stranglehold by Dems will be that parties death and they know it, it’s one of the reasons we have open borders.

        Lets look at Trump’s electoral history

        2023-Lost elections in Wisconsin where Republicans won the plebicites.

        2022-Lost an extremely easily winnable midterm election

        2020-Lost a presidential election to a man who was almost vegetative

        2018-Lost to a landslide blue wave

        2016-Lost the popular vote by a major margin, while barely winning in the electoral college entirely because of Hillary’s incompetence and avoiding states like Wisconsin.

        That is his electoral history.

        For saving the country he sure sucks at it.

        He also had major faults in office.

        Evil Otto in reply to gonzotx. | September 26, 2023 at 6:54 am

        Then we’re screwed, because Trump is one guy. Even if he wins in 2024 he gets one term, and then he’s done… and then what? Do you have some fantasy in your head that Donald Trump will magically fix everything in four years, and then some other billionaire will appear and become president?

        But we saw what Trump did in his term in office. He did some good, but he did plenty of bad. During Covid he was terrible, letting the deep state play him. And then he lost to JOE BIDEN. You can argue that there were shenanigans, but even if there were he was still so divisive and obnoxious that half the country voted for a senile, corrupt career political hack with the charisma of a wet dishrag.

        And if Trump wins again, nothing will be different.

    Lucifer Morningstar in reply to gonzotx. | September 23, 2023 at 10:09 pm

    @gonzotx. Why don’t you mosey on over to I hear they are just full of Anti-DeSantis, Only Trumpers posting their usual lunatic nonsense. You’d fit in just fine with them and probably be much happier there to boot. So please, by all means, just go and let the adults have a serious discussion here. M’kay?

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to gonzotx. | September 24, 2023 at 10:42 am

    Yes. It is in fact Legal Insurrection. There are times I would like to see them do articles on things I find important, likely to all of us, but such articles do not appear. Yet, I do not snivel and call the writers out for not catering to my desires.

retiredcantbefired | September 23, 2023 at 9:24 pm

Even when Donald Trump is wrong, he’s right…

Hard to argue with such proud illogic.

Here in the Sunshine State, just going to a Disney World Theme Park for a day will cost any visitor. As much as DeSantis can be credited for sticking it WDW, the realization that with a slowing economy, massive government spending, higher costs along with flat wages (Bidenomics) Iger knows they must re-evaluate their business model to quickly recover lost revenue. I am not sure he will succeed.

    He’s not backing down on the woke crap; he just wants it not to be the focus. He’s hoping that it will all blow over and Disney’s embrace of woke lunacy won’t hurt their bottom line. Personally, I would never in a million years take kids to Disney now. There are bearded men dressed as women sashaying around the park.

    Disney has decided to be a niche business, catering to the tiny tiny percent of our population who are either trans and/or LGB or who are their allies. That’s a market of about (give or take) 8-10% of the population. Nothing at all wrong with being a niche business catering to perverts, the delusional, and/or groomers. But Disney wants to do that AND gaslight Americans into thinking they are backing off and returning to family entertainment. They are not. Nothing in this statement suggests they are. (At least to my mind, but I thought the same thing the last time the right was crowing about beating Disney. Iger didn’t mean it then, either, and we know this because he was careful about how he worded his statement. Same here.)

      Yep. Disney is like the spouse that is abusive. “Yes, of course I will change my ways! I am so sorry!” But, they won’t. They can’t. Pretty soon it will be back to “See what you made me do!”

retiredcantbefired | September 23, 2023 at 9:50 pm

By the way, Bob Iger becomes “Bog” Iger in one passage above.

“As for DeSantis, Griffin doesn’t understand the strategy of the Florida governor’s presidential campaign.

Before the Florida governor launched a run for the White House, Griffin said “our country would be well-served by [DeSantis] as president.”

But not anymore. “I don’t know his strategy,” Griffin said, referring to DeSantis’ 2024 campaign. “It’s not clear to me what voter base he is intending to appeal to.””

More interested to know that answer. It’s a legitimate question from someone that started in his corner.

    Wait, isn’t this the big bad ebil Jeb-Rove globalist who “bought” DeSantis and was going to get his money’s worth because DeSantis is “bought”? And stuff.

    So DeSantis didn’t bend to his will, and now THAT is a problem? You people bring new meaning to the term “cognitive dissonance.”

    It’s funny how you guys want to damn DeSantis for NOT being “bought.” I’ve written a comment about this previously:

    I have no problem with anyone supporting Trump, but I do wish you guys would stop lying (actually, I don’t think you intend to lie, but dropping that same story here is odd unless you are trying to misrepresent what actually was reported).

    The donor the article you linked is talking about is Robert Bigelow, and I don’t know what is wrong with his donating $20 million to DeSantis (or the $10 million to his gubernatorial bid in ’22).

    Particularly when you find out the actual facts (which are all right here. In the article.):

    –Bigelow donated the $20 million in March
    –Bigelow told DeSantis’ campaign to “moderate,” particularly on the six-week abortion law
    –DeSantis signed the abortion law the very next month . . . DESPITE this huge donation

    That’s problematic and “establishment” how? That shows he’s “bought” how? (archive link of the original Reuters story all these other sites are reporting on)

    “He does need to shift to get to moderates. He’ll lose if he doesn’t … Extremism isn’t going to get you elected,” Bigelow said in an interview, adding that he had communicated these concerns to DeSantis’ campaign.

    When asked which specific policies Bigelow did not support, Bigelow cited only DeSantis signing in April a bill passed by the Florida legislature banning abortions after six weeks, a move that came after Bigelow had donated the $20 million. [my emphasis]

    So, let’s review:

    — Huge donation comes in.
    — Donor tells DeSantis’s people (apparently hasn’t even spoken to DeSantis himself!) to “moderate” and not be so “extreme.”
    — DeSantis keeps doing what he thinks is right.
    — The donor expresses that he does not think DeSantis should sign a six-week abortion bill into law.
    — DeSantis keeps doing what he thinks is right and signs the bill into law.
    — Donor gets huffy and says he won’t donate anything more.
    — DeSantis keeps doing what he thinks is right.

    That seems like a pretty good chain of events to me. What part of this chain of events doesn’t work for you?

    Trump, on the other hand, bashed the Bud Light boycott BECAUSE Bud Light donated to Republicans. He also ditched RFK, Jr. from the covid vax team BECAUSE a huge donor (Pfizer) told him to. Trump is a politician. Get that. Fast.

      Deflect. It does not answer the question. There has to be some reason that DeSantis has failed to catch on, whether you like it or not.

      “You people.” You would not know “you people” if you tried. This thread is junior high stuff in the cafeteria and you’re a big part of it. Can’t make a comment without gratuities. SAD!

        “There has to be some reason that DeSantis has failed to catch on, whether you like it or not.”
        I’m hoping the reason isn’t that the CIA knows how to play emotional conservatives like hooked marlins by keeping the spotlight on the sadistic torturing of Trump.
        The same way they played them into showing up on J6 and “attacking” the Capitol building, neither action having any potential upside to the conservative movement, and all the downside that we have since witnessed.

      I get a kick out it every time one of them talks about DeSantis being “bought” by former Trump donors (who, BTW, he’s been begging to come back – somebody’s got to pay all of those lawyers).


    DeSantis has stuck with what he has said and made his own decisions. He signed the 6-week abortion ban bill into law and fought Disney. Trump went after him for both stances. In Trump’s interview last week, Trump made solving the abortion crisis like his solving the Ukraine war crisis. If he could just get both sides to the table he can fix it. He is so out of touch that he doesn’t understand that abortion is not a two-sided issue nor is the Ukraine war. That’s the way he thinks because in business things can be met in the middle but not organic issues. He felt the same way about COVID-19 and his “Warp Speed” vaccine program. Some issues cannot be solved by a meeting of two sides and require much deeper thought. His vocabulary is that of a teenager and his use of adjectives is downright childish. How many times have we heard him declare that he made a “Perfect” phone call? Can anyone explain what a perfect phone call is? He is a mixture of businessman and showman. His moral ethics are in motion at any one time depending on the question before him. He has found that the “America First” policy is a popular political position to have at this point in time. He has been a Democrat, independent, and a quasi-Republican. He has never held a strong position on anything that conservatives believe in such as gun control, gay marriage, or abortion. He is a popularist and knows how to speak to the TV camera but he is not our savior.

    Griffin is another craven weenie, trying to appeal to his corporate woke folks. Follow him at your peril.

    You do realize that Griffin nowhere attacked DeSantis he criticized his approach to campaigning.

    Once upon a time politicos on both sides had something called maturity and integrity that allowed them to speak openly and honestly.

    Today we have crusading, and no it isn’t just Democrats.

It’s too bad he is running such a poor campaign because he really is doing a great job as governor.

Disney isn’t really backing down, though, they are just making the fight quieter.

For now.

Until they get their expenses under control and start making money again.

For a Rovian Bushie, he sure does a lot of things that Rove and the Bush’s hate

I am late to the debate as usual. Lots of other things going on.

But I do not fully understand the statement by DeSantis. How does Disney have the power to “wreak havoc on our school system, injecting transgender ideology …?

Does Disney control the school district in its administrative zone? Does it sit on state boards that govern school policy? Otherwise, it just sounds like Disney is attempting to influence public opinion.

The real value of this brouhaha was to inform the public about what is going on at Disney. I, like many others, will never visit its parks again, so Disney’s public campaign has massively backfired.

The lesson for Disney to self-censor, which is not great, because its business can likely recover over time and and adapt its support of transgender ideology to be more subtle and less noticeable.

    inspectorudy in reply to kelly_3406. | September 24, 2023 at 11:26 am

    If you bothered to read the original issues you wouldn’t ask such a silly question. Disney jumped into the pornographic library books issue that were being offered in FL public schools and at the same time questioned DeSantis’ rejection of CRT in the schools. The absurd “Don’t Say Gay” bill then was raised by Disney as an attack on freedom of speech in schools. The largest private company in the state was interjecting itself into every aspect of public school education. That’s why DeSantis went after them.

Yes deSanta is winning? That is why deSanta is now losing to Trump even in the Florida polls. New ABC Washington Post poll shows Trump beating Biden by 10 points nationally. Whereas deSanta is down to 15% in the same poll. My question is what are all these DeSantis supporters going to do when they finally realize their man is a loser and a lousy campaigner? Who will they throw their support to when reality finally catches up to them?

    wendybar in reply to garybritt. | September 24, 2023 at 9:58 am

    Joe Biden, like the last time.

    CommoChief in reply to garybritt. | September 24, 2023 at 10:35 am

    I strongly suspect the major the current DeSantis supporters are long term GoP voters and will support the nominee chosen by the voters in the GoP primary. That’s in contrast to the more vocal Trump surrogates, commenting at LI among other sites, who loudly and repeatedly proclaim that if Trump isn’t chosen as the GoP nominee they will go home and sit out the election refusing to vote for anyone. In essence they will happily hand power to the d/prog in a shortsighted fit of pique.

    While there are exceptions, keep in mind that many Trump supporters are not long-term GoP voters nor have they been part of the conservative movement. These folks were certainly not part of the internal center/right populist push inside the GoP trying to shift away from big govt back to main street friendly policies . Many are instead long term d/prog voters who were convinced by Trump to give him their vote in ’16 over one of the worst d/prog candidate in a long time HRC (very high -), who ran an incredibly bad campaign not campaigning in Midwest swing States b/c she felt entitled to be elected. There were about 10 million Obama voters who crossed over to vote Trump in ’16 as one example.

    In sum, DeSantis supporters are far more likely to support the eventual nominee chosen by the voters in the GoP primary than are Trump supporters at least IMO. We will find out for sure in Nov ’24.

      JohnSmith100 in reply to CommoChief. | September 24, 2023 at 5:32 pm

      In my opinion, DeSantis doesn’t have the chops to take on Deep State, and that voting for him would result Deep State having their way. There might be some window dressing, but the long term outcome would be much like what we have had with Dems. As it is, half of the Republicans feed at the same trough as Dems.

        Evil Otto in reply to JohnSmith100. | September 26, 2023 at 7:14 am

        And what are you basing that opinion on? DeSantis has done nothing but fight since becoming governor, but if he were to get elected he would stop? The dude has fired Soros prosecutors (note the plural there), taken on his state’s most powerful corporation and knocked their teeth in, fought DEI and CRT in schools, pushed abortion bans, and fought those pushing for vaccine passports and continued lockdowns. What the hell does he have to do to impress you?

      Quick A/B compare here. Trump will bring a lot of people to the polls. Unfortunately, a large percentage of them would be there to vote against him because over the last eight years or so the Dems and the media (but I repeat myself) have spent every moment of their time bending pubic opinion to the point if Trump ran against Satan himself, they would still vote against him. DeSantis has been effective in the legislature, a darned good Governor, and I suspect will make an effective President. The Dems fear that, and they’re trying their best to whip up the hate machine from both Left and Right. (Doesn’t matter which one wins the primary. I’ll vote for either.)

    inspectorudy in reply to garybritt. | September 24, 2023 at 11:37 am

    Hyperbole is thy name! I have not seen one DeSantis supporter claim that they will not vote for Trump if he is the nominee. Your side, however, constantly claims that Trump is the only one and no one else will do. What the campaign shows me is that we are now into a showman-type mentality in politics and do not want a quiet solid manager of our affairs. We want attacks, revenge, threats, name-calling, antics, but no actual performance record to look at. Trump and Ramyswamy are both big talkers who have no record of accomplishing anything for the public that is permanent. Both are one-man shows and cannot get anything passed through Congress. DeSantis is the opposite and works well with others but sticks to his guns on ethics and conservative principles. Ask Trump where he stands on gun control or abortion and you will be talking to Joe Biden because his answer will make no sense. Ramaswamy is a con man who made his money with a big pharma scam. He has never looked back. I’m afraid it is the time we live in. I really believe if the left had not indicted Trump so many times that he would not be ahead. I am mixed on this issue because it has to be stopped. If electing Trump is the means to stop it then so be it.

      JohnSmith100 in reply to inspectorudy. | September 24, 2023 at 5:35 pm

      Another bad case of TDS. As I have pointed out before, when Trump was elected, the party fell into line because they did not have any choice.

    DeSantis made one big mistake and it was trying to appeal to moronic cult followers like yourself instead of the center of the Republican Party.

    His results are vastly superior to Trump’s in governing, which Trump sucks at,

On the upside, discourse is improved over last time. No one has called RdS a “meatball” in this thread.

I’m gonna support the guy who the media and polls say is ahead, cause he did kinda OK last time and he tells us how wonderful he is!