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Report: Trump Wants to Skip First GOP Debate for an Interview With Tucker Carlson

Report: Trump Wants to Skip First GOP Debate for an Interview With Tucker Carlson

I bet he’ll end up at the debate.

The New York Times reported that numerous people said President Donald Trump plans on skipping the first GOP debate for an interview with Tucker Carlson online:

In the past 24 hours, Mr. Trump has told people close to him that he has made up his mind and will skip the debate in Milwaukee, according to two of the people briefed on the matter.

Mr. Trump is notoriously mercurial, and left himself something of an out to change his mind with an ambiguous post on his website, Truth Social, on Thursday. He wrote that he’s polling well ahead of his rivals and added, “Reagan didn’t do it, and neither did others. People know my Record, one of the BEST EVER, so why would I Debate?”

For weeks, the former president has been quizzing aides, associates and rally crowds about what he should do. Until earlier this week, Mr. Trump had been giving people the impression he was considering a last-minute surprise appearance on Wednesday.

The Republican National Committee is sponsoring the first debate with Fox News as a host.

It would also be a slap in the face for Fox News because the network has been at odds with Carlson since taking his show off the air. He’s still under contract with the network.

Trump has railed and ranted against Fox News, and yet we’ve seen him give the network exclusive first statements after an indictment or anything else happens.

So some people think Trump decided months ago not to debate, but other top people at Fox have the impression “that he was open to and even seriously considering their entreaties:”

Fox News executives and personalities have been lobbying the former president, both publicly and privately, to participate in the debate. But Mr. Trump has been openly attacking Fox and has privately vented his animosity for the chairman of Fox Corporation, Rupert Murdoch.

Even so, Mr. Trump has privately also given top executives and anchors at Fox the impression that he was open to and even seriously considering their entreaties.

Earlier this month, Mr. Trump hosted for dinner the Fox News president Jay Wallace and the network’s chief executive, Suzanne Scott, who had gone to Bedminster hoping to persuade Mr. Trump to come to the debate. They left the dinner believing there was a decent chance he would show up, according to two people familiar with the dinner.

Without Trump, the debates are a dud.

With Trump, everyone will tune in.


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Without Trump-Dud?
With Trump everyone tunes in….and shortly …out.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Whitewall. | August 18, 2023 at 5:55 pm

    Without or with: another candidate (won’t say who) far outshines him and folks tuned in say, “h’mmm…!”

      Interesting.. I guess that depends on what you mean by outshines… But time will tell.

      Non have outshined President Trump

        amwick in reply to gonzotx. | August 19, 2023 at 6:45 am

        I am pretty obviously for 45 = 47….. But I am interested in Mr. Grizzly’s opinion.

        BTW I also admire your passion. Truly. And I agree, none of them have outshined Trump. I met a friend here that shared your passion.. maybe you remember Voting Female. She was so passionate that it got a little overboard and she was kicked off LI… Good times.

          The Gentle Grizzly in reply to amwick. | August 19, 2023 at 5:25 pm

          It’s my idea that another candidate may say something or ask something that combo for once, 45 will be caught without some answer, glib or otherwise. That’s all.

      There’s a flaw to your theory. If the unknown candidate is such a threat, he/she would be on the DNC hot seat not Trump. Trump has upset the traditions of the good ol’ boy network, he has exposed all politicians for who they are and what they do, he has exposed the crooked election process developed by both parties, he has exposed the corruption in the justice department. Trump is the spoiler for this slow crawl away from the Constitution and Bill Of Rights. The list is longer, but who has time?

    Hey, Trump, where is the Kraken to be leased on Monday? Oh, I guessed it, Just another bullshit move for you to raise money from working class Americans who should be spending their money on food and rent, but you suckered them in to give that money to you instead. How pathetic.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to Whitewall. | August 19, 2023 at 5:20 am

    Wait for the numbers, I bet FOX flops on this one..

This is a simple calculation from the old, “What’s the best and the worst that can come from this?”. Trump has nothing to gain and will not appear. He is in many ways a coward not to and it hurts the other candidates as well as the American people. To have the other candidates ask him hard intelligent questions that the msm seems unable to, is critical to our future. I have listened to his rallies and he says the same thing over and over. He is never specific and as long as his base is happy he will not get serious. If Tucker throws softballs at him he is through also. For once in our country’s life, we need hard serious answers and not cliches.

    chrisboltssr in reply to inspectorudy. | August 18, 2023 at 5:46 pm

    This is the stupidest nonsense I have read from a NeverTrumper, and I have read a lot of stupid stuff from NeverTrumpers.

      inspectorudy in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 19, 2023 at 12:57 am

      Unlike you and your no-one-but-Trumpers, I will vote for the nominee no matter who it is except Christie and Pence. Trump is a coward because he knows that he has more to lose than gain by appearing. The American people are the biggest losers along with the other nominees. I’ve listened to his rally rants and he never says anything different and it’s always about him and not the problems and how he is going to solve them. The other nominees are prepared for him this time and he won’t get away with his childish insults and name-calling. That’s why he is not going. It’s up to Tucker to push him and not let him rattle on for two hours and say nothing. You may call this nonsense but tell me why instead of doing what Trump does and name calling.

        Whitewall in reply to inspectorudy. | August 19, 2023 at 8:47 am

        You have summed it up well. I will however vote for the R nominee no matter. Even that fop Asa Hutchinson or His Rotundity the x Gov. Chris Christie…

      MattMusson in reply to chrisboltssr. | August 19, 2023 at 8:04 am

      This is just the first round of the playoffs and Trump gets a bye.
      The others are just playing for 2nd place anyway.

        Lucifer Morningstar in reply to MattMusson. | August 19, 2023 at 9:51 am

        Lol. I think that since Trump is so sure of himself he can skip the first debate claiming he has nothing to gain by attending the republican party should simply not invite him to attend any subsequent debates. If Trump feels that the debates are meaningless then he shouldn’t be allowed to participate in the debates.

          It would not make a difference. He is still going to win.
          The debaters are fighting for 2nd place.

          JohnSmith100 in reply to Lucifer Morningstar. | August 19, 2023 at 5:38 pm

          Sounds like a good idea, then Trump runs independent and maybe wins, and the Republican party loses regardless, while Deep State cements their position. Really dumb.

          healthguyfsu in reply to Lucifer Morningstar. | August 19, 2023 at 7:07 pm

          It would be dumb for Trump to run independent, but he would definitely do it if he doesn’t win the nomination.

          That’s because Trump is all about Trump.

          Y’all better get hot on getting ballot access before the election cut off. I believe that particular ship has sailed.

          I do agree about th Trump 3rd Party though. IMO he should have spent the time from inauguration day building a grassroots organization on the ground in every State. Using that organization to make a stand on election security and on cleaning up the voter registration lists.

          Then he would have an existing infrastructure for 3rd Party to form around. After the ’22 midterms he could shifted to getting ballot access for the MAGA party.

          Of course he didn’t do the 3rd party route b/c it would carry lots of risk he doesn’t need to take. He was the presumptive frontrunner and is maintaining his dominance within the polls as a candidate for the GoP nomination.

    gonzotx in reply to inspectorudy. | August 18, 2023 at 5:47 pm

    Why should he appear on Fox that helped steal the election and can not put little d on Often enough and repeats slanderous lies about President Trump?

    And with a bunch of traitors and liars on stage

    Oh, , your joking right?

      Tiki in reply to gonzotx. | August 18, 2023 at 6:18 pm

      Trying to keep all of this stuff properly sorted.

      gonzotx, is Tucker Carlson:

      1) a good guy
      2) a bad guy
      3) a neutral guy

        amwick in reply to Tiki. | August 18, 2023 at 6:25 pm

        He did say somewhere, IIRCC that he hated 45. Now he is giving him a huge platform. Generally I always liked Tucker, except for that stupid fake laugh.

          Tiki in reply to amwick. | August 18, 2023 at 6:49 pm

          I’m neutral-positive on Tucker.

          I never watched him on Fox, the exception being when L.I. or AoSHQ linked excerpts to his show. I’ve watched all but the FRFK Jr. interviews on twitter and the forum(s) interviews.

          And yeah, what’s up with the canned laugh? If it’s genuine he needs to fix it.

          txvet2 in reply to amwick. | August 18, 2023 at 7:20 pm

          He did write a couple of tweets to that effect in 2021. According to Trump, that’s in the past.

          gonzotx in reply to amwick. | August 18, 2023 at 7:41 pm

          So Tucker should not give the rightful President of the United States a platform?

          You jest

          amwick in reply to amwick. | August 19, 2023 at 7:03 am

          No.. I am really happy they are doing this interview. I just don’t always understand Tucker. That is on me. There are some people that are obviously Trump supporters, without a doubt. I just don’t get that impression from him. But,, maybe that is the way a talking head should be, they present the news, and keep their personal views to themselves.

          healthguyfsu in reply to amwick. | August 19, 2023 at 7:07 pm

          He said it privately and it was leaked.

        It depends on what Tucker said about Trump this week.

          Wasn’t there a “equal time” clause – or whatever – so broadcasters couldn’t lockout genuine political campaign opponents?

          Which has nothing to do with gonzotx rating TC. A question she refused answer.

          Tiki, the “equal time” regulation states that if a broadcast station sells ad time or offers free time to a candidate for an office, it has to offer similar access to other qualified candidates — it concerns political advertising only.

          You may be thinking of the “Fairness Doctrine” which was abolished. Broadcasters (and print media) are no longer required to provide access for an opposing view to political speech.

          alien in reply to Tiki,

          Thanks for clearing that up.

      CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | August 18, 2023 at 7:53 pm

      For the same reason he went on CNN (of all places) in May, gaining free publicity surrounding it and reaching an audience of voters.

    You may not have listened hard enough. In interviews, and in his speeches, he may not go into details, but it’s quite apparent he has a grasp on the policy. He’s not a wonk. Sorry. He’s a communicator. Stump speeches are not for setting out details, anyway.

      Exactly all the anti trumpers here have no idea his polices nor his successes

        CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | August 18, 2023 at 8:04 pm

        Where’s the border wall he promised in every campaign stump speech in ’16? Didn’t get built. Clearly that was NOT a success. Trying to shift blame to the same establishment political figures who hadn’t already built a wall won’t cut it. If the establishment wanted a wall it would have been built long ago and Trump wouldn’t have had it to run on as his central campaign promise in ’16.

        Nor was the Federal Covid response under his Presidency a success. Enabling a fascist like Fauci and Birx to unleash insane policies and recommendations that wrecked lives without at any point wondering WTF is this weird little man doing to the Nation and saying ‘NO this shit stops today you little totalitarian toad’. Not a success by any measurement.

          He signed Paul Ryan’s omnibus budget bill which left him no options to negotiate border security – in fact it left him unable to leverage any and all deals. The Uniparty defeated him in one stroke. Strategic catastrophe.

          His border policies were successful. He got Mexico finally to use its military to help with stay in Mexico. The wall was proceeding in the most needy places. The ball was moving in the right direction. How terrible. We see now how bad it can be.

          As for covid, so easy to play the hindsight game. He implemented the policies of the experts. Pretending it would have any different with someone else, especially when the experts and Chinese were being deceptive, is unrealistic. It’s not like he was the deceiver, like now.

          CommoChief in reply to CommoChief. | August 19, 2023 at 7:25 am


          A Wall is what was promised so stop waffling like a d/prog on this point.

          Covid Hindsight? Nah, I was railing against govt excess from the start right here in LI. I was calling for a limiting principle to be established on ’emergency measures’ as to duration and scope.

          These are the two main issues Trump Failed. Stop trying to sugar coat or deflect or blame others for his clear failure on these two things. Every time y’all do this it shows you are not being honest or acting in good faith.

          CommoChief in reply to CommoChief. | August 19, 2023 at 7:30 am


          Exactly. Trump signed the budget that lacked the border wall funding. He should have used his VETO. That would have forced the establishment DC crowd to find the votes to override or give in and find the $.

          Frankly I don’t think the votes existed to override that potential VETO without breaking the GoP establishment. Everyone who voted to override border wall funding would have been primaried and their constituents would have been outraged.

          Remember when Trump diverted Pentagon funds to build as much of the wall that that amount of money could?

        Lucifer Morningstar in reply to gonzotx. | August 19, 2023 at 9:36 am

        • Border wall not built and what was Mexico didn’t pay for.

        • Swamp not drained

        • Trump’s Project Warp Speed gave us the mRNA serum (aka fake vaccine) and we know how well that worked out

        • Followed Fauci’s & Brix’s advice and unnecessarily locked down the country w/devastating effects

        • Couldn’t appoint an U.S. Attorney General that would support him or at least wouldn’t stab him in the back

        • Chaos in the White House. No continuity of staff over the 4 years of Trump presidency

        • Spend! Spend! Spend! like a good democrat

        But don’t worry. Saint Ex-President Trump had a bigley good presidency. Bestest in the history of the United States. Never was a president so great and good. At least that’s what Saint Cheeto Trump himself tells us.

      inspectorudy in reply to oldschooltwentysix. | August 19, 2023 at 1:05 am

      No one asks him why his choices for people in his admin are so bad and how he plans to get quality people this time. (Kevin McCarthy his latest). No one asks him how he plans to get anything through Congress when has insulted almost all of them. No one asks him what he will do if convicted in any of his trials. No one asks him why he keeps on insulting DeSantis if he is such a loser. No one asks him why he hasn’t held some fundraising rallies for the J6 prisoners. In fact, no one asks him anything but gotcha questions that are meaningless to the American people. He may be a communicator but he certainly is not an administrator!

        JohnSmith100 in reply to inspectorudy. | August 19, 2023 at 5:32 am

        Have you considered what happens if MAGA is pissed? 🙂

        Lucifer Morningstar in reply to inspectorudy. | August 19, 2023 at 11:18 am

        No one asks him why his choices for people in his admin are so bad. . .

        Trump’s choices were so bad because Trump wasn’t the one actually choosing those people. Trump was simply handed lists of people to appoint by his sycophant hangers-on and told to pick someone from the list. And Trump did just that.

        . . . and how he plans to get quality people this time

        Trump has no plan. If Trump somehow is re-elected he’ll just listen to the same sycophant hangers-on he did the first time around with the same result. Guaranteed.

        No one asks him what he will do if convicted in any of his trials.

        That’s unpossible. Trump will not be convicted of anything. We’ve been told that over and over again by the Only Trumpers so it must be true.

        No one asks him why he keeps on insulting DeSantis if he is such a loser.

        Because Trump is terrified that DeSantis might actually get the republican nomination instead of him. So he has to play his usual childish game of bully and insults.

        No one asks him why he hasn’t held some fundraising rallies for the J6 prisoners.

        Trump doesn’t care about them. It’s all about him. Nothing more.

        And yet according to the Only Trumpers this is they guy we just must vote for.

    Ironclaw in reply to inspectorudy. | August 18, 2023 at 7:28 pm

    If the mass misleadia thought they had a good hard question that would stump trump, they wouldn’t hesitate to ask it

    henrybowman in reply to inspectorudy. | August 19, 2023 at 3:56 am

    Aha, but the other side of the equation is getting grilled by Tucker. Tucker is not a softball interviewer of politicians, He may wish he chose the debate stage.

    mailman in reply to inspectorudy. | August 19, 2023 at 8:49 am

    He’s got nothing to gain or lose whether he turns up or not. Everyone else are just also rans this time around.

    diver64 in reply to inspectorudy. | August 20, 2023 at 7:19 am

    What foolishness. If Trump follows through on this he is being very canny. He is 50pts or something ahead of DeSantis and Christie has said his main goal is to attack Trump onstage so Trump has nothing to gain by showing up. Him being on Tuckers show will cause that to draw far more viewers than any debate will. I doubt anyone needs to hear where Trump stands on anything, he tells us all of the time. To have him appear in a venue where the entire schtick will be to be attacked from start to finish might make the Never Trumpers in the Republican party feel good and delight the haters on the left but will serve no real purpose. I’d rather hear from the candidates, mainly Vivek, DeSantis…ok just those two on the issues and government which they will be forced to address than listen to a non-stop Trump Hatefest

Make hay while the sun shines with Tuck

IDK if Trump will be on the stage for the first debate but he will end up on the debate stage before the end of the primary. This despite him reassuring his supporters that he doesn’t need/want to b/c it doesn’t serve his purpose to take the risk v reward as the frontrunner. He’s going to remain the frontrunner for the foreseeable future and as the race tightens/another candidate surges he will end up on the debate stage as the frontrunner.

Trump has a habit of this sort of thing. He announces some future action then he changes his mind. Just like the Monday press conference where he promised to reveal the ‘irrefutable proof’ of GA election shenanigans which has now been cancelled. Blaming the Attorneys doesn’t hold water, if was going to listen to their advice why didn’t he run it past them BEFORE making the announcement and avoid creating another PR problem?

retiredcantbefired | August 18, 2023 at 6:08 pm

Who cares what Trump decides to do?

Tucker Carlson won’t ask him softball questions.

    He asked little Ronnie amd RFK jr amd that pig in eastern Eastern Europe softball questions

    But he knows the whole world will be
    watching President Trump

    Not little d and Fox

    He will try to be very hard hitting

I think Trump just volunteered Tucker for an interview.

    It will be interesting to see whether or not Tucker bends the knee.

      It was a stroke of genius-chutzpah and put Carlson in the hot seat.

      FRFK Jr. is a dirty, rotten, weasel and Carlson gave him a platform. Ask FRFK Jr. about his BrightSource grift (NYT archive)

      He and Feinstein got into a nasty patronage fight over control of Mohave contracting corruption. Of course he played the part of victim grande.

      inspectorudy in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 19, 2023 at 1:11 am

      Tucker knows a lot of his audience are Trumpers and he knows that many who watch him are not, so this will show his true colors and he must decide how much the maga crowd will stand before they bolt him like they did with FNC. There is only truth or BS and he must decide which one he chooses for the interview.

        CommoChief in reply to inspectorudy. | August 19, 2023 at 10:30 pm

        IMO if it happens it’s gonna be similar to the Sidney Powell interview. TC gonna let his subject make their case but ask tough follow up questions and demand specifics v broad unsubstantiated non answers. Didn’t turn out too well for Sidney Powell and the ‘kraken’.

Trump is finally listening to his lawyers. No “news conference” on Monday. No-show for Wednesday’s debate. Interesting development.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to RNJD. | August 18, 2023 at 9:34 pm

    It won’t last.

    txvet2 in reply to RNJD. | August 18, 2023 at 11:42 pm

    I wonder how many of those “small donors”, who in many cases were doing without something else, like food, to contribute to his campaign, realize that it all went for legal fees to millionaire lawyers that he COULD have paid for himself?

      herm2416 in reply to txvet2. | August 19, 2023 at 8:18 am

      Who is holding a gun to their heads to donate to Trump? Did you have the same empathy for those who donated to the never-clearly-stated “hope and change” candidate?

        Lucifer Morningstar in reply to herm2416. | August 19, 2023 at 10:05 am

        Nobody had a gun held to their heads. But when you make a campaign donation to a political candidate the donor expects that the donation will fund the candidates campaign and not bankroll the candidates millionaire lawyers legal fees to defend the candidate in his numerous criminal indictments. Especially when the candidate himself is a millionaire that can afford to fund these lawyers himself.

    inspectorudy in reply to RNJD. | August 19, 2023 at 1:12 am

    Finally after 2 1/2 years!

Debate questions are all hooks into narratives the media business model makes money selling, namely soap opera.

Aside from that, I don’t even like listening to Trump – he talks for some other audience. You vote for him for the mean tweets.

Only a Don RIckles sense of humor can defeat the deep state.

    rhhardin in reply to rhhardin. | August 18, 2023 at 6:25 pm

    The left’s strategy is to put Trump in jail. Trump’s strategy is to make the left look ridiculous.

    Which one is the American way?

      amwick in reply to rhhardin. | August 18, 2023 at 6:30 pm

      That has to be a rhetorical question. My question is, who wants to live in a country where a political prosecution directly impacts an election. Once that happens, this nation is forever altered. It will not be for the better.

        Ignoring reason and common sense to leap on the Trump train is also a direct impact on the election, and not in a good way. Unless you are rooting for Biden (or Newsom).

          I just want my country back. It is being destroyed. And people like me don’t have to jump on the train. We never left.. And yes,, I do have reason and common sense. But, to each their own.

        inspectorudy in reply to amwick. | August 19, 2023 at 1:16 am

        That’s only one way to see it. If another R is elected in 2024 and cleans house in the DOJ, then all of the perps in office now could be at risk. This is exactly what Trump has proposed but another strong conservative can do the same thing. Remember that the public wants this mess that Biden created straightened out and does not want four years of revenge and accusations with no progress.

          JohnSmith100 in reply to inspectorudy. | August 19, 2023 at 5:44 am

          Name one strong conservative who is up to the task. It sure was not DeSantis.

          “ Name one strong conservative who is up to the task. It sure was not DeSantis.”

          Vivek Ramaswamy. I’ve watched dozens of stump speeches as well as open forum Q&A’s. He’s farther to the right on domestic and foreign policy than Trump. Vivek even takes on disruptive forum-goers and allows follow up Q’s from the same people.

          If you disagree with me, then link to a video on Twitter or YT showing V.S. betraying The Cause.

          One thing unacceptable – selectively edited audio from Conservative Treehouse. All else is fair game.

Curious how much you would bet? Would at least ask for odds.

    Sorry to be glib regarding the “bet.” As for the debate, it will be entertaining whether he shows or not. There’s a lot at stake for many. The main hope is that Christie will be true blowhard and become Cheney personified. Will Ramaswamy’s 10 Commandments be a hit? And. of course, how will DeSantis perform?

    It may be better without Trump. Let them have oxygen and stand on their feet. We know Trump, we don’t really know them, and how they walk the lines will be interesting.

With the polling spread being what it is, any GOP candidate not named Trump is a statistical non factor in the race.

    You mean in the primary, right? Because Trump cannot win a general.

      Juris Doctor in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 18, 2023 at 7:36 pm

      Go take a gander at 538 and then get back to me with the “Trump can’t win the general “ nonsense.

        JohnSmith100 in reply to Juris Doctor. | August 19, 2023 at 5:52 am

        Fuzzy does have a bad case of TDS, though she is pretty sharp otherwise.. She should be happy that DeSantis will be staying in Florida, it would be a shame if did not, and became a glaring example of the Peter Principle.

          She is smart,, a good writer, and sometimes pretty funny, but she was wrong back 2016, and I am hoping she is wrong about 2024.

      Lol, President Trump has

      Already won TWO general presidential elections

        Trump lost the popular vote to crooked Hillary Clinton, and he lost the popular vote to senile Joe Biden. How many more times does Trump need to lose before you acknowledge that he is a loser?

          But he didn’t lose. EVERYONE across these fruited plains loves Trump. It was StOlEn, He’S TeH OnE. And stuff. Seriously, if we all click our heels together at the same time, we can bend time and make it 2020 again, when Trump wins. And stuff. And then when we don’t like that, we can all organize a new Great Heel Clicking and flash ourselves back to 1776. It’ll be great. And stuff.

          alien in reply to JR. | August 18, 2023 at 9:13 pm

          Irrelevant. We don’t elect Presidents by the popular vote.

          JohnSmith100 in reply to JR. | August 19, 2023 at 5:54 am

          The popular vote does not matter in our system.

          WestRock in reply to JR. | August 19, 2023 at 9:53 am

          And we all know the vote counts were accurate beyond a reasonable doubt. There was no fraud proven in a court of law, as Kemp from Georgia says.

          Seriously, no one knows for sure Trump didn’t win or win the popular vote.

          healthguyfsu in reply to JR. | August 19, 2023 at 7:17 pm

          It’s not just heel clicking. They have other great tactics to push Trump through.

          1. Calling everyone else a traitor/RINO/GOPe/etc

          2. Yelling at someone else to do something

          3. Alluding to a revolution from their keyboard warrior enclave.

          4. Sucking their thumbs and heading back to shitblogs

          5. Expending more energy on mental gymnastics to find the right set of polls that suggest Trump can win than would be expended to just read the whole landscape….but polls are rigged and so are elections….so vote for him or don’t…it won’t matter….but do it or you’re a traitor.

        Stuytown in reply to gonzotx. | August 19, 2023 at 3:11 pm

        Lost 2018, 2020 and 2022.

      Juris Doctor in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 18, 2023 at 7:37 pm

      Also report back on how “Rob” is doing on general election matchups with dementia patient Joe.

      Pretty sure of yourself. What’s to say that people will not be as fed up, or more, with Biden as they allegedly were with Trump? After all, he’s done such a great job. His corruption will on the table, not to mention his record. Do you believe Biden will increase his votes like Trump did? Do you not think that people will feel betrayed by his lies to bring us together? Nor do you really know how the persecution of Trump will affect the electorate because it’s unprecedented. Or how the effects of the border will play out. Or the next Biden screw-up. But so many speak in absolutes. Another Obama mic drop?

        You guys are hilarious. When you are not insisting that NO ONE other than a Democrat can win our impossibly rigged elections you are bleating stupidly about how Trump can win a rigged 2024 election . . . when a majority of general election voters would literally prefer Biden (and/or Newsom).

        So which is it? The 2024 election is already lost because Democrats have it in the bag due to unchecked cheating or Trump will win in a massive landslide?

        Because it seems to me that you Only Trumpers want it both ways. So that when Trump loses (and he will because he’s TOXIC to too many voting blocs he needs to win and has done NOTHING to push for changing his own covid-era voting shenanigans), you can all whinge and whine about it being “stolen.” Newsflash: it won’t be stolen. Trump cannot win a general election at this point in time. Period.

        But seriously, pick a position because this weird “no one can win because of Dem election fraud” and “LOL, you think Trump can’t win, what a loser” crap is just insane. It makes NO SENSE. None. At all.

          You provide many good laughs yourself. Said NOTHING about fraud. Did say that it’s no free ride for Democrats, despite your certainty. You sound just like Obama dropping the mic. Some of like to allow events to occur before declaring they are over.

          You speak a lot about “Trumpers” and who they are. John Stuart Mill said:

          “Nor is it enough that he should hear the opinions of adversaries from his own teachers, presented as they state them, and accompanied by what they offer as refutations. He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them…he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.”

          In other words, you may not be the best messenger to communicate their positions. Interestingly, you failed to address the comment itself, but laced into Trumpers. Too much a problem here, the way that happens, especially the vitriol. That’s NOT hilarious.

          What a lunatic load of crap. You don’t address a single point I made but then demand that I address points that were never even made. That’s crazy. And then, as if that wasn’t laughable enough, you start bleating in some kind of bizarre non sequitur world about ::: checks notes ::: John Stuart Mill. WTAF?!

          I’m not trying to be the “best messenger” of anything but my own ideas and beliefs, but I do try for clear points supported with substantive facts. What you are doing is . . . seriously bizarre Kamala-like word salad. But then, that weirdo Kamala style has been picked up by Trump who rambles in circles these days like a Kamala clone, so maybe that rubbed off on you?

          Always pejorative. Can’t simply disagree. Says a lot, the manner in which you judge others. Poor reflection on the site. Carry on.

          JohnSmith100 in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 19, 2023 at 6:03 am

          Fuzzy, the Republican Party will lose without MAGA voters, so it would behoove you to take a laxative and purge TDS.

      he can and he did, the cheating in 2020 is why Biden is president

    inspectorudy in reply to Juris Doctor. | August 19, 2023 at 1:17 am

    There is an old saying, “Just wait”.

Skipping the first debate would be a real BS move for Trump.

    Dimsdale in reply to Q. | August 18, 2023 at 7:45 pm

    Of course, it would allow the other candidates to get some attention, which might not be a bad thing after I saw Ramaswamy on Tucker.

    He was great.

      CommoChief in reply to Dimsdale. | August 18, 2023 at 8:09 pm

      Skipping the debate also denies an opportunity for one of them to land a hay maker on Trump which he at least had the honesty to own up to as the reasoning.

        gonzotx in reply to CommoChief. | August 18, 2023 at 10:06 pm

        Lol NONE of them have been able to Land a haymaker, and they won’t , they simply are not in the same league as President Trump and don’t have anywhere his charisma

        But maybe Christie will hug little d

        Now I would pay to see that!

          inspectorudy in reply to gonzotx. | August 19, 2023 at 1:20 am

          So your version of the old gunfight is for one of them to not show up? That’s Trump, hiding with his friend Tucker. When, oh sage of TX has any other candidate had the opportunity to directly ask him anything?

          CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | August 19, 2023 at 7:36 am

          Have you ever been in a fight? You do realize your opponent gets to hit you as well?

          Is it a certainty that someone lands a hay maker? No. Does the potential exist? Absolutely.

          Trump admitted as when he told his reasoning for skipping the debate ‘why should I take the risk as the frontrunner with a large lead in the polls’.

          Trump has been very open and honest on this point I don’t understand why you won’t do the same.

      JohnSmith100 in reply to Dimsdale. | August 19, 2023 at 6:07 am

      It would allow DeSantis to run on Trump’s initiative, does DeSantis have any of his own ideas?


        CommoChief in reply to JohnSmith100. | August 19, 2023 at 7:40 am

        Sure. Here’s one. Sending illegal aliens to sanctuary jurisdiction to make the feel the pain and share the burden directly.

        Imagine if Trump as President had said ‘OK, since Congress won’t provide border wall funding then every illegal alien we apprehend but can’t deport due to weirdo CT ruling we gonna send to sanctuary Cities’.

        healthguyfsu in reply to JohnSmith100. | August 19, 2023 at 7:21 pm

        Does Trump have any of his own ideas that he actually succeeded in executing?

    jb4 in reply to Q. | August 18, 2023 at 8:07 pm

    I agree. He shows up and trumpets that he wants everyone in the room to get more attention, because every single one is better then Joe Biden. He looks magnanimous, doing something best for America. Then he proceeds to outshine them all. That is win-win for all Republicans running next year. If he can’t outshine them all, then he should not be the candidate.

      inspectorudy in reply to jb4. | August 19, 2023 at 1:24 am

      “He looks magnanimous, doing something best for America. Then he proceeds to outshine them all. That is win-win for all Republicans running next year. If he can’t outshine them all, then he should not be the candidate.”

      You are not talking about the Trump we all know! He is selfish, egotistical and couldn’t care less about the Republican party. His debate style is to ignore the question and call the other candidates insulting names.

    gonzotx in reply to Q. | August 18, 2023 at 10:06 pm

    No, it’s a smart move

    Want to bet who gets the most viewers

    thalesofmiletus in reply to Q. | August 18, 2023 at 10:40 pm

    No, it’s a real Chad move because he is the President in Exile, the real leader of legacy America, like it or not.

Trump and Tuca should do live commentary on the debate

now that would be hilarious

Hope Trump and Tucker do live commentary on the debate MST 3000 style.

He’s skipping it because it’s not a ‘debate’.

I’ve said this for a long time – having 6-10 people sitting on a stage is not a DEBATE. There’s simply not enough time to get into any actual ideas or debate, when you have to waste time on candidates nobody cares about.

It’s a bunch of dead air time from too many also-rans.

Trump knows if he shows up it’s going to be 50 minutes of them answering ‘questions’ about how much they hate Trump, and then Trump only getting 10 minutes total to respond. There’s not going to be any ‘debate’ to be had.

If they had a 2 or 3 man ACTUAL DEBATE between Trump, DeSantis, and maybe Ramaswamay, it would be good. You could actually have legitimate debate of ideas going on, with enough time for them to actually discuss things and counter each other.

We don’t give two shits what Pence, Haley, Christie, or Hutchison have to say, and there’s no need to even mention the other ones that are ‘running’.

If I had Trump’s polling numbers, I wouldn’t show up for this farce either.

I know what I saw Ruby Freeman and her accomplice doing with the suitcases hidden under the tablecloths and running the same ballot stacks through a counter multiple times right AFTER THEY RAN OFF THE REPUBLICAN OBSERVERS!

I’m not an idiot, Kemp!

Is also a traitor of the highest

These people need to
Be treated as we treated traitors in the past

Time we bring back the Meet your maker

    CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | August 19, 2023 at 10:37 pm

    There’s guy in Utah you need to talk to about these sorts of comments…oh wait..he is no longer available b/c the FBI showed up raided his home pre dawn and shot him.

I think the temptation to go on Tucker and beat the ratings of the debate which would then tank is too great.

Why are the two leading candidates so frigging old? Seriously Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama were 45-60 but now we have 2 guys who will be 82 and 78 if they win. Both of them need to step aside and endorse someone 20-30 yrs younger. I voted for Trump twice and will again if he is the nominee but in the primary I will vote for someone who is much less likely to be a doddering old fool by the time their term is over.

Fuzzy Slippers,
Trump is not the typical candidate. He is essentially being indicted for challenging the 2020 election. Under that rubric, Hilary Clinton should have been indicted in 2016, The Clinton campaign encouraged electors to shirk their responsibilities to the voters and put her in office. Where were her indictments?

Now, as to the debate, we are in uncharted waters. This is not a normal election and this “lawfare attack” on Trump renders him not the usual kind of candidate. I never thought I would see this country sink to filing ridiculous charges on a candidate to keep him from running or winning. That’s banana republic stuff.

So to mock Trump for not going to the debate is to simply be tone deaf to the new normal that we are in. We have never had a candidate so publicly attacked by legal charges that make no sense on their face. The attacks are political with legal window dressing. Why should we expect that politically attacked candidate to follow the same rules?

Trump is not skipping the debate, he is not participating. Carlson is not a factor in that decision. The reason is Campaigning 101: Never give your opponent free exposure, make him buy it.

“ Here’s a snippet form CT”

You’ve fallen into the Abyss of the Crackpots and don’t even know it – writhing head-down in the mire of political purgatory.
CTH is damnable masquerade. All of it political psychodrama

For all
Of you they apparently are suffering from memory issues , here’s Kudlow recent interview with President Trump, charts and diagrams to show you what HE did

It’s confirmed. Trump will appear with Tucker. But it’s not what you think. They will be launching an entirely new line of NFTs. Get yours first!

Eastwood Ravine | August 19, 2023 at 3:46 pm

Oh, the horror that Trump won’t appear at the Fox debate.

My doom and gloom prediction:

Trump will likely skip all or almost all debates. The GOP will deny him the nomination by taking him off of the ballot. He will run Indy. America will lose.

We deserve this for falling for a con man and also being complacent with false patriots in the first place.

    “The GOP will deny him the nomination by taking him off of the ballot.”

    Under what rule?

      CommoChief in reply to alien. | August 19, 2023 at 10:44 pm

      Each party controls who they allow to be on the ballot line as representing the party. Parties have the freedom to make their own rules, they are private organizations comprised of private membership.

      Neither Trump nor anyone else can be prevented from campaigning not can legit voters be prevented from voting for him in the general election. However no one is entitled to the line of a particular political party on the ballot. As a private group a political party could have term limits as an example. Wouldn’t stop an incumbent from seeking election but it would prevent them seeking election a member of that party.