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‘New York City Alliance’ Wants to Block Planned New Regulations on Coal, Wood-Fired Ovens

‘New York City Alliance’ Wants to Block Planned New Regulations on Coal, Wood-Fired Ovens

Don’t mess with the pizza.

This is what would happen in Chicago if the city ever tried to do something this stupid. I’m shocked they haven’t.

The New York City Alliance will fight to stop the planned new regulations on pizzerias that use coal and wood-fired ovens. From The New York Post:

Lobbyist and self-described pizza fanatic Brad Gerstman said Wednesday he’s created the “New York City Pizza Alliance” with fellow lawyer Nina Marinaro and pie makers to block “a concerted effort to undermine and suppress the coal and wood-fired pizza business.”

The city Department of Environmental Protection has drafted new rules that would order eateries using the decades-old baking method to slice particulate emissions by up to 75%.

The rule targets coal-and-wood-fired ovens installed before May 2016 and restaurateurs said it would cost at least $20,000 to install air filtration systems to dramatically curb smoky emissions.

Leslie, our environmental genius, noted that the crackdown would likely cause more carbon emissions.

Mayor Eric Adams gave a wishy washy response when asked about the proposed rules:

“Everyone likes pizza! You see that pie in front of you, you start to get happy,” said Adams, who faced the fire while responding to a Post report on the city’s green crackdown on pizzerias during an unrelated press conference Monday.

“But let’s be clear, every toxic entity that we remove from our air is adding up to the overall desire to deal with shrinking our carbon footprint,”

The New York Post mentioned the rule would impact fewer than 100 joints in the city. Those include “Lombardi’s in Little Italy, Arturo’s in Soho, John’s of Bleecker Street in Greenwich Village, Patsy’s in Turtle Bay and the Upper West Side and Grimaldi’s near the Brooklyn Bridge.”

One person told The Post the government needs to mind its own business. These people know how to make a proper pie:

“This is an unfunded mandate and it’s going to cost us a fortune not to mention ruining the taste of the pizza totally destroying the product,” the restaurateur, who has a coal-fired oven, fumed.

“If you f—k around with the temperature in the oven you change the taste. That pipe, that chimney, it’s that size to create the perfect updraft, keeps the temp perfect, it’s an art as much as a science. You take away the char, the thing that makes the pizza taste great, you kill it,” he claimed.

“And for what? You really think that you’re changing the environment with these eight or nine pizza ovens?!” the restaurateur added.


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E Howard Hunt | June 29, 2023 at 3:07 pm

That DEP’s got a lotta crust.

A newspaper fired oven would be nice.

A new alliance to protect pizza? That’s great. Just keep voting blue though and ignore the real problem.

Subotai Bahadur | June 29, 2023 at 3:36 pm

From my safe distance, I have to admit amusement. New York City is a hellhole, a functional dictatorship, and operates outside the law and the Constitution. The overwhelming number of New Yorkers have absolutely no problem with this, and think that it marks them out as something positive and special. Along comes a bureaucratic overreach that affects 100 or so pizza restaurants, and they go Chiroptera feces. And if they make the DEP back down on this little issue, they will take it as proof that they are really the ones in charge, regardless of the conditions they are forced to live in. Having done that, they will support those who oppress them.

Subotai Bahadur

From what I’ve seen, the big chains like Domino’s and Papa John’s already use electric ovens to bake their pizzas, but then this is Texas. NYC is more into the original ethnic Italian style cooking.

BierceAmbrose | June 29, 2023 at 4:26 pm

What’s the particulate output of a riot? Where *do* you put the filters on one of those?

    scooterjay in reply to BierceAmbrose. | June 29, 2023 at 5:02 pm

    The same place as on John Kerry, Al Gore and Greta Thunberg’s private jets.

      scooterjay in reply to scooterjay. | June 29, 2023 at 5:07 pm

      Pizza for me, none for you.
      Hand me the Big Gulp, I’ll take that too.
      Trans fat is bad, tranny is good.
      Don’t eat the pizza that is cooked over wood.

      Where is Adam Sandler?

China and India are adding multiple dirty coal fired power plants every month.

But NY is worried about 100 pizza parlors?

A nearby power plant used to burn coal. They used an entire train load of coal per day. I doubt the total coal use of all 100 parlors one train car load in a year.

I’ll get rid of my SUV when:
1) Swift and Dicaprio get rid of their private jets.
2) The UN calls for bombing China and India to stop their pollution.
3) My Tax Assessor reduces my water front properties valuation by 90% because it will be under water during its useful life.

    buck61 in reply to 1073. | June 29, 2023 at 6:52 pm

    how did they arrive at 2016 as the cut of year, some big donor put ovens in during 2015.

JackinSilverSpring | June 30, 2023 at 9:34 am

And what evidence is there that carbon is harmful? After all, carbon is the main component of life. Would they suggest killing everything on the planet to reduce our carbon footprint? (They nay be when they advocate the end of farming.) Of course what they mean is CO2. But what evidence is there that CO2 is harmful? Is it dodgy climate models whose predictions are universally wrong? Tell these malevolent monsters to get lost.

The Alliance want to block the new Regulation? Here’s a radical idea: Don’t vote for Dems.

BierceAmbrose | July 1, 2023 at 9:46 pm

Banning pizza is finally something worth getting all wee-wee’d up about.