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Biden Says 2022 Election “Could Easily Be Illegitimate”

Biden Says 2022 Election “Could Easily Be Illegitimate”

“Oh, yeah, I think it could easily be illegitimate … The increase in the prospect of being illegitimate is in proportion to not being able to get these reforms passed.”

Joe Biden is setting the stage for Democrats to claim 2022 wins by Republicans would be illegitimate, based on the false claims of voting suppression that even CNN said were lies, CNN Skewers Biden’s Voter Suppression Lies. Yes, CNN.

Democrats are using fearmongering about “the end of democracy” in order to try to nationalize election controls away from states and local governments to lower election integrity. Unless Democrats can bust the filibuster — and that looks like it’s not going to happen because Manchin and Sinema are holding firm — then the voting bill is dead. (That vote may happen tonight.)

Democrats are expecting to lose bigly in the 2022 elections, so of course, Biden preemptively is suggesting the 2022 elections may not be legitimate. That’s just how Biden framed it at his press conference today:

“It all depends on whether or not we’re able to make the case…that some of this is being set up to try to alter the outcome of the election.”

“Oh, yeah, I think it could easily be illegitimate … The increase in the prospect of being illegitimate is in proportion to not being able to get these reforms passed.”

I for one am sick of this insurrectionist talk.

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UnCivilServant | January 19, 2022 at 7:07 pm

Yes Joe, but hopefully we can keep you and your party from making it so.

“I for one am sick of this insurrectionist talk.”. We’ll hear more since SCOTUS in 8:1 decision requires Trump to release documents demanded by an improperly empaneled House investigation of 1/6. Eventually all that the Social club of The United States will be required to do is rubber stamp whatever comes their way.

    Supreme Court just blew down Biden’s vaxx mandate so perhaps your hopeful optimism is a little bit unjustified.

      lgbmiel in reply to Danny. | January 20, 2022 at 11:35 am

      What SCOTUS said was Congress didn’t give OSHA the power.

      They also said Congress did give CMS the power.

      No win from SCOTUS.

E Howard Hunt | January 19, 2022 at 7:12 pm

In keeping with our proud agrarian roots, the only votes that should be counted are those from harvested ballots.

Well, he would the the authority on illegitimate elections, now wouldn’t he?

The only reason the Democrats are eager to have a vote on the “voter integrity” issue is to put an end to it. They know they can’t win but they want to go back to their base and argue that they did their best.

And another thing, the Republicans could put to this issue to rest were their state attorneys general not blocking effort to audit the votes. What does that tell you? It tells us that Democrats aren’t the only ones who steal elections.

We don’t need voter integrity laws. We need politician integrity laws.

Obviously the thing to do it ignore election results and use some other system. Or you could tighten the chain of custody rules for votes.

Well, that’s a sign the Dems’ internal polling is awful if they’ve got Biden talking like this in January,

Did Daffy Joe Biden accidentally admit the 2020 general election was not legitimate?

So, in other words, if the Republicans lose an election and challenge the results, they are insurrectionists and must be prosecuted by the DOJ. But, if Democrats don’t win, the election is not legitimate… Got it…

Memo for President Pudding Cup: That civil war you’re inciting ain’t gonna end the way you think it will.

How refreshing. Biden is telling us in advance that:
1. His d/prog policy preferences are virtuous
2. Opposition to them is evil and full of ‘ists and isms’
3. He fears his policies will not become law
4. The Nov midterms will be illegitimate as a result

That’s not a very unifying message, particularly on the heels of labeling political opponents as traitors to the republic in what was the clearest example of projection in modern politics; casting the modern r party and it’s supporters as Jim crow era segregationist such as Wallace and Conner; who were both elected d by the way.

IMO, this was an angry old man, confused and frustrated by his inability to get his policies enacted. He simply can’t comprehend why, after finally getting the job after three previous attempts, he can’t command enough respect and presence to close the sale. Today was like watching Canute attempt to command the sea. I feel pity for this man but I have nothing but anger and contempt for those who cynically used him to increase their own power, prestige and influence.

    henrybowman in reply to CommoChief. | January 19, 2022 at 9:22 pm

    “IMO, this was an angry old man, confused and frustrated by his inability to get his policies enacted.”

    Perhaps if he proposed a policy that wasn’t outright batshit lunacy, he could pass one.

    WISteve in reply to CommoChief. | January 20, 2022 at 12:12 pm

    And I hate the way Pervert Biden bends down and WHISPERS into the microphone. Reminds me of what a deviant he is when around children.

The first six or seven questions were clearly scripted. Biden looked down, read a name, a reporter responded with the question they had been given and Biden read the answer.

Toward the end, however, reporters started getting antsy, raising their hands, crying out for attention. And lo and behold Biden began calling on them, took real questions and gave answers—without reading.

The first half of the presser was obviously scripted and the “reporters” who participated in the charade with the scripted questions should be ashamed of themselves.

Joe Biden is the actual foreign and domestic embarrassment the cable and mainstream media spent four years claiming Trump was.

On the voting rights issue, the Democrats don’t want to make it easier to vote. They want it easier for them to cheat. Democrats don’t want you to show an ID to vote so they can get elected but require you to show an ID to do just about anything in public including buying food.

Fuck you, Joe.
Questioning the validity of an American election is insurrection.
It is a dagger poised at the throat of our democracy.
These are all things you have said within the past 16 months.
Impeach 46!

Antifundamentalist | January 19, 2022 at 9:59 pm

So what I’m getting out of this is that the 2022 elections will be illegitimate if the Dems win, and the Dems will Claim the elections are illegitimate if the Repubs win…..Because, as Biden has confirmed, the dems “have put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.” Never forget that.

Any chance the brat-dastards are trying to set up a Manchin/Sinema ticket for 2024 – hoping to carve out the middle vote?

Joe Biden’s grave will be just another place to take a leak when you’re in town.

Subotai Bahadur | January 19, 2022 at 11:08 pm

I have been warning for a while that the 2022 elections may be stolen from the Left. And that if we have 2 elections in a row stolen, there is neither legitimacy nor consent of the governed.

Subotai Bahadur

Back in 2012, I walked into my polling place, showed my ID and went to sign the book that said I was getting a ballot. (A paper ballot.)

There was another signature already in the book.

Someone had voted in my name.

I was given a provisional ballot and told to follow-up on it. When I called the supervisor of elections a few days later but before the election was certified, I was told that they could not determine which vote was from the registered voter, so they did not count either.

Someone robbed me of my right to vote.

So when people talk about election integrity and making sure people that can vote are the ones voting and not someone else, I agree with that.

It’s personnel to me.

It always will be.

    As a former elections official, I can tell you that this is not an infrequent occurrence. The poll workers – the people who check your name in the checklist – tend to be older, more civic-minded “paid volunteers,” which means often times they have trouble hearing in an already chaotic environment, may have trouble seeing especially when so many names look similar, so the wrong name gets checked off. Voters are the same – they see a name but don’t check the whole line and then sign next to the wrong voter.

    The first election I worked as a poll worker, and in the first 15 minutes, I had this happen. Someone came in, stated their name and address (this was before ID was required), and their name was already checked off. The Town Clerk comes over, looks at the list, and says, “turn the page” – the next page top line was the guy’s father, who was not checked off. The town was small. enough at the time that the clerk remembered seeing the father in earlier, and the poll worker must have checked the wrong one, and being on a page break, didn’t realize there was more than one.

    Over the years, I saw and adjudicated many more of these. I think we were able to resolve all of them – with some delay on the part of the voter – as a mis-checked name, and the person was not denied. But it took scrambling and leg work on our part to clear it up.

    Right after I took over the checklist maintenance, I found in the most recent election that there was a name that had 2 checks next to it – one in red, and one in black. Red usually was for Absentee voters, but there was no “AV” written. So I called the Town Clerk and asked her about it. “Oh, yeah, someone came in to vote and their name was already checked off. So we checked the name twice and used Red so you would notice.” They attributed it to an older poll worker making a mistake. We never did figure out who the second check was.

    Where I think the fraud was in my state was in out of state students who tended to vote leftist, and the ability to use an affidavit as “proof” of age, citizenship, domicile (residence), and identity. We had a college in our town, and the students would come in by the busload, register, vote, and leave, most never to be seen again. Removing them was a painful expensive process. When you register to vote, you sign an affidavit stating that you renounce all other residences – excluding all others. What about the OOS students from Connecticut who were receiving a tax break for “residents attending out of state colleges?” Why didn’t the DMV enforce the drivers license requirement that 60 days after you “establish domicile” in the state that you had to get an in-state drivers license and register any vehicles? These kids were allowed to steal elections and it happened.

    The other form of theft was same-day registration with affidavits. I watched one happen – everything in my gut said this was wrong, but the AG was clear that we had to let him vote, So we did. 30 minutes later, the cops come in and asked if we had seen this guy. He was caught breaking into cars in the parking lot, gave an address where he clearly did not live (same one he gave us by affidavit) and they arrested him. They held him for 7 days, but the state never showed to take custody on felony charges. He skipped town. Then the AG said on TV that they had “no credible reports of voter fraud.” If you don’t investigate them, then the number of prosecutions is zero.

      Milhouse in reply to bhwms. | January 20, 2022 at 4:24 pm

      I take it that in your state you don’t have to sign your name to get a ballot.

      Here in NYC you do. Back when there was a physical book, you could see the registered signature and sign right under it, so someone skilled at this sort of fraud could copy that signature close enough to pass. Now that we’ve moved to electronic books it’s a bit more secure, because the voter can’t see the signature on file. That only shows up after the voter has signed, so the poll worker can compare them. Still, as a poll worker we have to give a lot of leeway since people’s signatures do change. I usually let the person try again, but without showing them the old signature.

      I’ve only ever caught one attempt to vote in someone else’s name, when the signature was a total and obvious mismatch. On being confronted the person admitted that he was trying to vote for his brother, and seemed to be completely unaware that you can’t do that!

Well, he’s right. The 2022 elections may well be illegitimate. Let’s not fall into the trap of thinking that since the latest Dem power-grab was defeated, and some states have tightened election rules, the fraud is over. Far from it. Defeating the latest bills just leaves the status quo where it was in 2020.

Even in those states where the rules have been tightened, that just rolls the level of fraud back to maybe 2016, or if they’ve been especially diligent 2014. But the Dems have been at this game for longer than 5 or 10 years; try 5 or 10 decades. They’re pros at it. And they will continue doing it. So will the 2022 result be legitimate? I don’t know, and I don’t think anyone else does either. All I know is that they will be less illegitimate than they would have been had those bills passed tonight.

My take is first to get thir Vote Back Better into law, and to raise the thought if they lose, and badly at that, it was a vote fraud.
Ironically wouldn’t that be?

The rhetoric has nothing to do with anything in reality, never is.

The Gentle Grizzly | January 20, 2022 at 6:30 am

His statement is merely a signal: if Democrats lose a particular race, his usual suspects will scream about illegitimacy. I also expect riots.

The only things standing any chance of being ‘suppressed’ in the mid-terms are cheating and illegal voting. Not one person will be denied a legal vote.

I noticed an odd tactic while standing in line for early voting in 2012. The line was enormous, and after two hours I was about 100 feet from the door. As folks neared the door they peeled out of line, saying they could wait no longer. They couldn’t wait another ten minutes after waiting two hours? The rub was in the exodus admonition….every single line peeler said the exact same thing. Coordinated? The huge line was a deterrent as many cars slowed to turn in the polling place with blinkers a-blinking, spied the line and continued forth while extinguishing the signal of change. Apathy kills civilization. Entropy strikes hard.

Biden et al., when voters realize our desire to fundamentally want to change America for the worse and vote us out of power, the vote will be illegitimate. So said every autocrat ever.

Paraphrasing Shakespear “what fools these democrats be.”

One has to be a fool or incredibly anive to believe the Commiecrtats are going to surrender power. Not only will they commit massive and obvious electoral fraud and violence but they will set Garland’s Secret Police anyone to oppose them. Only the hopelessly naive can continue to believe they will be stopped other than the people rising in armed revolt against the organized crime syndicate masquerading as the Democratic Party and their CCP allies.

I thought questioning the legitimacy of an election was un-American (except when Hillary, Abrams or now Brandon do it….)

Just like questioning the vaccines’ safety is anti-Science…except when it was Harris, Nancy, Brandon & others prior to the election…

Elections are only as legitimate as the violence available to force the desired outcome. This is as true for republics, democracies, and dictatorships.

bart simpsonson | January 20, 2022 at 1:58 pm

Given that Xiden does not know who’s who, what’s what, where’s where, when’s when, why’s why and a lot of other stuff, I think he is right. But that was before Manchin and Sinema put a stop to their federalizing election shenanigans. But……..he also likely meant the 2020 election. Or, it was more likely he meant both 2020 and 2022, and is hoping for 2024.

Does that also mean, the 2020 elections could have been illegitimate? Asking for a friend, Joe.

“The [John R. Lewis Act ] legislation is a massive power grab, removing authority from state legislatures and state courts and putting all the decision-making in Washington — an incongruous move from Democratic politicians who contend that “Democracy is hanging by a thread,” and that Republicans have now become sinister autocrats out to steal elections, and who could well lose the House and Senate in November. If you want to eliminate photo-ID requirements, allow every convicted felon to vote upon their release, and make fights about redistricting more intense and take longer to resolve, this is the bill for you.”
Jim Geraghty 1-20-2022

This is from Joe Lieberman. He was recently asked by Mr. Geraghty about Russia, Ukraine, and Vladimir Putin:
“The Biden administration has been talking tough with Putin … And this is in the context of just one year of the Biden administration, but in foreign policy, the most noteworthy, and in my opinion, terrible event was the retreat from Afghanistan. . . . The war was over, we were just there, performing a kind of counterterrorism/moral-support role. And so it was a mistake to pull out, but it was also done in a way that was embarrassingly chaotic. And I think the people like Putin and Xi Jinping, and maybe people like the supreme leader of Iran Khamenei, saw two things: The Americans are no longer willing or even able to be global leaders. They don’t really want to be, but Biden, and Biden wants to focus on domestic policy. So let’s seize this moment of opportunity and expand our own spheres of influence and control.”

Control; the bottom line regarding “voting rights legislation”, as any sane and honest person would agree.