Dems Freaking Out on Manchin After He Stated Again He Won’t Vote for a $3.5 Trillion Bill
“Yet some in Congress have a strange belief there is an infinite supply of money to deal with any current or future crisis, and that spending trillions upon trillions will have no negative consequence for the future.”
Why is anyone shocked? Moderate Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin (WV) ticked off fellow Democrats after he wrote an op-ed about why he won’t vote for the $3.5 trillion “human” infrastructure bill.
Are the Democrats dumb? Are they deaf?
Manchin voted to advance the bill, but he has never swayed from his final no vote unless they lower the price tag.
In other words, Manchin’s no vote is not anything new:
I, for one, won’t support a $3.5 trillion bill, or anywhere near that level of additional spending, without greater clarity about why Congress chooses to ignore the serious effects inflation and debt have on existing government programs. This is even more important now as the Social Security and Medicare Trustees have sounded the alarm that these life-saving programs will be insolvent and benefits could start to be reduced as soon as 2026 for Medicare and 2033, a year earlier than previously projected, for Social Security.
Establishing an artificial $3.5 trillion spending number and then reverse-engineering the partisan social priorities that should be funded isn’t how you make good policy. Undoubtedly some will argue that bold social-policy action must be taken now. While I share the belief that we should help those who need it the most, we must also be honest about the present economic reality.
Manchin urges his colleagues to push the “strategic pause” button on the $3.5 trillion bill. He thinks the pause would “provide more clarity on the trajectory of the pandemic” and “allow us to determine whether inflation is transitory or not.”
How about this for a reminder: “Yet some in Congress have a strange belief there is an infinite supply of money to deal with any current or future crisis, and that spending trillions upon trillions will have no negative consequence for the future.”
So the Democrats are losing their mind.
Manchin has weekly huddles w/ Exxon & is one of many senators who gives lobbyists their pen to write so-called “bipartisan” fossil fuel bills.
It’s killing people. Our people. At least 12 last night. Sick of this “bipartisan” corruption that masquerades as clear-eyed moderation. https://t.co/KW8w7HUhvT
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) September 2, 2021
Instead of writing op-eds, why don't you look into the faces of my residents who have had their basements flooded with sewage multiple times and their power out for days, Senator Manchin. We deserve better. https://t.co/jSMlIB4SYa
— Rashida Tlaib (@RashidaTlaib) September 2, 2021
Democrats should punish Manchin and Sinema if they aren't going to do anything whatsoever to help Americans, democracy, and Biden's agenda. 2022 is it. Strip them of committees and play hardball until they cry uncle. Biden and Schumer should call them out by name. https://t.co/8VjulFGTUg
— Wajahat Ali (@WajahatAli) September 2, 2021
If only you could just “hit the pause button” on our climate crisis. https://t.co/AHnt5UMctN
— Cori Bush (@CoriBush) September 3, 2021
PRO TIP: #Manchin is the rotating villain. pic.twitter.com/jUT7YLnP00
— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) September 3, 2021
End the filibuster.
— Val Demings (@valdemings) September 2, 2021
A reminder: Democrats control the White House & both chambers of Congress.
In theory, there is nothing stopping them from abolishing the filibuster, codifying Roe, & expanding the court.
In practise, Joe Biden defers to Joe Manchin on the issue of democracy and protecting it.
— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) September 2, 2021
Joe Manchin saying pump the breaks on climate change spending as major cities in the northeast are underwater is quite the fuck you to reality. Must be nice having a houseboat, Joe.
— Tommy Vietor (@TVietor08) September 2, 2021
Are there no real Democrats in West Virginia who can replace Joe Manchin? I’m completely over Daddy EpiPen never taking up for our party 🤬 pic.twitter.com/ku7gqScdWW
— Tara Dublin (@taradublinrocks) September 3, 2021
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Comments
Sure he won’t.
They just haven’t found the right kickback yet.
Boo-hoo!
Is that you, Honey!
3.5 trillion is too much for him, but I’ll bet 3.49 trillion will be just right.
End the democrats.
Can somebody hit pause on Cori Bush. My God she is just an ignorant racist.
During the intermission, there will be a presentation of the wisdom of Maxine Waters.
We already have a pause on climate change.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/09/01/the-new-pause-lengthens-yet-again/
She’s kind of a slob, too.
Yech.
Yes, please primary him. I am sure there are lots of Democrats in WV willing to toe the party line.
Of course, they’d stand about zero chance of being elected in that state, but at least the Democrats won’t have to put up with Manchin any more.
Go ahead, make my day.
People REALLY need to stop celebrating.
Machin is pre-emptively giving himself an out.
This is nothing less than a public demand for an appropriate bribe.
Seriously, read the weasel words he uses:
“I, for one, won’t support a $3.5 trillion bill, or anywhere near that level of additional spending, WITHOUT GREATER CLARITY about why Congress chooses to ignore the serious effects inflation and debt have on existing government programs.”
“Undoubtedly some will argue that bold social-policy action must be taken now. While I share the belief that we should help those who need it the most, we must also be honest about THE PRESENT economic reality.”
Capitalized for emphasis.
So as soon as he has ‘greater clarity’ and we are not in ‘the present’, then he’s absolutely ready to vote for a SLIGHTLY SMALLER BILL, accompanied by a sanctimonious speech about how his ‘greater understanding’ and influence caused them to cut ‘unnecessary spending’, and that every bit of the ~3.3 trillion is ‘absolutely necessary.’
Manchin is a fucking snake and should never, EVER be trusted.
^^^ This ^^^
Manchin is a member of the ruling Communist Party. Never forget that.
Absolutely. Anything remotely positive that Manchin says should be looked at as the
negotiatingextortion tactic it is. When he gets what he wants (and they will give it to him), he always stabs us on the back as he clambers onto the bandwagon.I love to see all those other Democrats losing their s*, claiming that we could have prevented a hurricane if only the federal goobermint had spent more money on it!
We just watched our government (controlled by the White House & both Houses of Congress) walk away from $85B worth of state of the art merchandise. We will be spending untold amounts of money to recover (?) some Americans and much of our dignity in the near future. I don’t like or understand their priorities.
Not till his price is met
The vile Dhimmi-crats show their true, ugly, intolerant, vindictive, obnoxious, petulant and totalitarian visages, once their costume mask of civility slips off, as soon as they encounter a scintilla of political disagreement, dissent or opinion. The Dhimmi-crats became very nasty towards Senator Sinema, as soon as she made clear that she wasn’t going to march to their drumbeat with total, unwavering fealty, and, now, Manchin can expect the same treatment.
I would comment on this, but since September 1 the state of Texas has had Constitutional carry, and every single person in Texas is now dead due to gun violence.
And since I am dead I will be voting the straight Communist Party ticket from now on. Multiple times in each election, in fact.
Do it at a designated polling station in person, and we’ll cut you some slack.
By the way, since September 1, now more than half the states in the US are now constitutional carry states. Welcome aboard, Texas.
Manchin could change the course of history by flipping parties. Must be tempting.
I was thinking the same thing. How much more of that disrespectful blather from “the squad” and their camp followers before he decides he can do more for the people of WV from the other side of the aisle (hold back inflation, maybe more coal mining). His switch would break the tie and he might even keep committee positions since he would be a member of the new majority party.
At this point if you honestly think Manchin gives one single crap about ‘doing more for the people of WV’, then there is literally nothing that can help you.
Manchin does what benefits Manchin personally.
Manchin has a tried and true formula. He’ll hold out for a bribe for the people of West Virginia who will be surplused by the Green Nude Eel (perhaps a new federal “Joe Manchin Learn to Code Center”), accompanied by some federal contract award that indirectly boosts some portion of his personal portfolio. Classic Unjust Steward, with a vodka chaser. It’s been a winning combination for him so far, and he’ll do it again.
This bill is pre-green deal. If he votes for it WV is screwed.
As I expected, many of the negative commenters are basically foreigners squatting in my country.
Who was it? Russia, Saudia Arabia, et al., agreed this week or last?, to quit using the U.S. dollar for oil sales. The dimunition of the dollars as the international currency of trade continues. At a certain point, we will be expected to pay our bills.
We cannot do it as we presently operate.
Extreme caution is needed. I hope Sinema and Manchin hold out until sanity and seriousness surface.
We are sitting on about $28.5 Trillion in debt. Adding 3.5 and 1.5 trillion to that is ….bad. Particularly since we just added $5 Trillion for Covid. Not to mention the fact that this amount doesn’t include Social Security/Medicare commitments.
IMO, this is the last shot in the cylinder. Use it now or use it later. Either way after it is used that’s it. There will be a true effort to dislodge the $ as the role reserve currency. Once that happens, we have to actually pay down debt. Additional credit won’t be available. The rise in interest rates will begin a crowd out effect of other spending.
If you thought 2020 was bad wait till social spending is cut to pay the higher interest rates demanded by bond markets. Use the military to restore order? DoD budget is going to be slashed as well.
Secession. Either now in peace, or later in war.