‘It Just Isn’t Fair”: Caitlyn Jenner Opposes Transgender Girls Competing in Female Sports
The mob instantly attacked Jenner on social media.
Caitlyn Jenner, who announced her run for California governor as a Republican, set off a firestorm because she opposes transgender girls competing in female sports.
Caitlyn, born Bruce Jenner, dominated the Olympics in track and field. She came out as transgender in 2015. She kept her Republican views, but her stance on transgender girls and sports led to even more backlash.
TMZ ambushed Jenner during her morning coffee run:
“This is a question of fairness,” Jenner, who won the gold medal for men’s decathlon at the 1976 Olympics, said.
“That’s why I oppose biological boys who are trans competing in girls’ sports in school. It just isn’t fair. And we have to protect girls’ sports in our schools,” Jenner added.
Jenner declined to answer a follow up question asking whether her perspective was “delegitimizing” of a transgender person’s identity.
Good for Jenner for not backing down later in the day.
I didn’t expect to get asked this on my Saturday morning coffee run, but I’m clear about where I stand. It’s an issue of fairness and we need to protect girls’ sports in our schools.https://t.co/YODLDQ3csP
— Caitlyn Jenner (@Caitlyn_Jenner) May 1, 2021
Jenner knows and acknowledges the biological differences between females and males.
In 2019, Jenner spoke about taking estrogen. She started her transition back in the 80s with estrogen but stopped when she met her now ex-wife Kris Jenner.
Unfortunately, acknowledging the truth triggered people who labeled her a traitor.
Cait… this ain’t it. When you’re on hormones and or blockers there is not an advantage. I ran track at the club level with college girls and trust me there is no advantage. I would have went pro if I was able to run the times I ran before hormones etc.
— Trace Lysette (@tracelysette) May 2, 2021
You might be disconnected cause you live in a mountain fortress but since you announced — TERFS who worked with the Heritage Foundation to create this trans sports panic are calling you an AGP sexual fetishist and the Republicans say you’re a man.
They hate you. Please wake up. pic.twitter.com/qhK8IgP6mp
— Shadi Petosky (@shadipetosky) May 2, 2021
You are such a traitor @Caitlyn_Jenner
So we need to “protect girls sports”from other girls now? And fairness? Don’t you know how testosterone blockers work? https://t.co/JI35faSdbc— Fallon Fox (@FallonFox) May 1, 2021
Imaging benefitting from the work/activism/sacrifice of trans people to be able to enjoy the platform of acceptance you currently have… only to use it to close the doors behind you. I hope her extremely influential kids/stepkids speak out against this. #TransLivesMatter https://t.co/X3OJuXhFoT
— Jameela Jamil 🌈 (@jameelajamil) May 2, 2021
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Surprise that they can’t stand dissent. This is such a typical response that you could have predicted it before a word was uttered.
Personally, I have nothing against trans. BUT, I do think it is unfair and selfish for 0.03% of the population to demand they screw up sports for 50% of the population. I do not know why the media keeps pushing for the destruction of female sports for the sake of making a very very small number of people feel a bit better about themselves.
To put this in perspective – Imagine if all the people who are over 6 foot 6 inches tall (about 0.4% of the population) DEMANDED that everyone wear stilts or platform shoes – so that the tallest people do not have to constantly look down.
People would call them out as selfish jerks. But in our wacky worl;d, the most bizarre demands by the woke is met with all seriousness of the mainstream media and the ones who call it out are deemed to be the selfish ones.
DONT BE SHY – CALL THEM OUT – THEY ARE WRONG – IT’S NOT FAIR.
As someone who is 6’6″ I support this idea. Not really. I would like to be able to fit into sports cars and find clothes that fit in stores though.
Unfortunately all the “Tall Phobic” people are against the Justice and Equality Act for Height Challenged People. It’s just discrimination again the extremely tall. This is a HUMAN RIGHTS issue. It is sooooo obvious that our rights are being trampled upon. We need to march on Washington and demand justice for the very tall. Is it to much to ask that people respect us by wearing platform shoes and/or stilts. It is so easy to just show some respect. And why can’t cars and bathroom stalls be made to accommodate the tall ? Those can easily be fixed. I mean, its NOT like we’re asking all the door jams height be increased by a foot – we are reasonable !
Well, haters gotta hate, I guess.
> Like this post if you want to join the Tall Persons Rights Movement. If Trans can convince the world to accommodate their demands – we deserve to have our needs (I mean our rights) respected too.
What a weird weird world we live in
It’s not so weird – it’s happened before, and it signals the beginning of the end.
https://daily.jstor.org/gender-identity-in-weimar-germany/
As for Jenner: what has he ever administered? What has he ever negotiated? What is his track record of voting?
Bruce, you’re just not the guy – as it were – at this time. Try serving at a lower level and prove yourself.
Jenner is starting the same place Reagan did.
Not true!
Reagan worked as a radio announcer. He was successful.
He later worked as a movie star for several years.
He enlisted in the Army reserves and was commissioned a second lieutenant.
He was later elected president of the screen actors guild, where he was instrumental in creating residuals for actors. (No small feat of negotiating skill.)
He later became a television host, and was very successful.
He later toured the nation for General Electric, giving over fourteen talks PER DAY.
He become a spokesman for Barry Goldwater’s campaign.
He was re-hired by General Electric to tour the nation to give speeches HE WROTE. One such speech was famous:
” A Time for Choosing”:
“The Founding Fathers knew a government can’t control the economy without controlling people. And they knew when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. So we have come to a time for choosing … You and I are told we must choose between a left or right, but I suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down. Up to man’s age-old dream—the maximum of individual freedom consistent with order—or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism.”
The speech established Reagan’s national political profile. David Broder of The Washington Post called it, “the most successful national political debut since William Jennings Bryan electrified the 1896 Democratic convention with his Cross of Gold speech”.
Later on, he slugged his way into the governor’s office.
Then there’s Bruce Jenner’s resume:
-became greatest athlete in the world
-became a sidekick to the Karedashian family
-changed his sexual gender
Max, what were you thinking?
Reagan was president of the Screen Actors Guild.
In what way is Jenner worse than Newsome who is actively and intentionally incompetent?
It’s not the world. This BS is only taken seriously in the good old United Socialist States of America.
Even the French, of all people, have pretty much rejected this crap as dangerous lunatic nonsense.
Apparently there is a much larger list of requirements to qualify as “authentically” trans in this day and age — including surrendering your own opinion in favor of identity-group orthodoxy.
Leftism is a cult.
I run into a lotvof that. I “play for the othercteam” so am expected to be a leftist.
Grizz, remember when the Human Rights Campaign actually tried to be nonpartisan? At the time it portrayed itself as purely a lobby group for gay rights, and claimed to be willing to endorse candidates from either side, just like the NRA. And when a race came along where both major party candidates were equally good on that one issue, sure enough they endorsed both.
And the shit storm came. How dare they? How dare they endorse a Republican? Betrayers of the left-wing cause. Their donors revolted, a few people resigned from the board, and there was an apology. Sorry, it won’t happen again.
First they added abortion as a second core issue, to reduce the probability of a Republican qualifying for their endorsement. But when the Kerry v Weld race came along, both candidates were equal on both issues, and yet they endorsed Kerry and not Weld. That was the end of any pretense of nonpartisanship.
Yes, it is, and a very DANGEROUS cult !
well, his little head aint doing the thinking no more
Is it possible to have one site free of crude comments? We’re going to lose the ability to comment if we can’t behave.
At least he didn’t use the F word, which is becoming more more frequent and from more comment-makers here.
F WORD !!
We sit down to have a chat
it’s F-word this and F-word that
I can’t control how you young people speak to one another
But I don’t want to hear you use that F-word with your mother.
Good stance but I still don’t think Jenner can win. Not enough from either side would be willing to vote for her and in California you’re going to need votes from both sides.
her?
Yes, “her”. In ordinary conversation, when a person’s actual sex is not relevant to the topic at hand, it is only polite to take a person’s word for it, and to address them as they would like to be addressed, and as they actually think of themselves, even if it’s not technically true. The only time when it’s appropriate to insist on using the biologically correct pronouns is when the topic is an attempt to compel you to use the wrong ones, or generally when the topic is the very issue of pronoun usage and it’s too confusing to be using the wrong ones while explaining why they’re wrong.
Well said
She’s being honest, and the leftists will crucify her for that. Whether competing as a man or a woman, Jenner could blow away all the women of a similar age. She grew up as a man, and has man-sized bones and muscles.
He is one of the greatest athletes whoever lived
Governor? Don’t think so.
Caitlin still sounds like Bruce. It’s pretty funny.
she?
Is there some kind of reason to think California has changed dramatically since giving 2/3s of the vote to Joe Biden not even a year ago?
1/3 of tens of millions of people is a massive number enough to trigger a recall election but I just don’t see the sea change that would have to happen for the recall election not to be a foregone conclusion.
Who says those 2/3 votes weren’t manfactured by ‘voting machines’? Who says this hasn’t been going on for YEARS, accounting for the fact of the likes of Pelosi continually being re-elected?
Pelosi is not elected by the entire state. She is a congresswoman, not a Senatrix.
She is in fact elected by a very strange and dysfunctional voters in her district.
It is really great he is taking this stance–he is the perfect person to do this. I doubt he could win governorship though–but I am a democrat in CA and we need a course correction. We voted against Prop. 16 removing equality clause in CA constitution, but since then the politicians are still going full on “equity’ or preferences.
He’s right. The difference between sexes is in gender (e.g. sexual orientation) and physiological differences including musculature, bone density, lung capacity, etc. Also, society has a compelling cause to normalize a favorable juxtaposition of the sexes. Men and women are equal in rights and complementary in Nature/nature. Political congruence is a mischievous mistress and a first-order forcing of progressive corruption. #BabyLivesMatter
I would like to compliment you on your posts recently. Your dialing back on terminology has made it much easier for me to ‘get’ your point.
I happen to agree with Jenner – I played field hockey at Michigan in the late 1970s. My first two years were considered intramural sports. The third year was intercollegiate. My team was deemed to be Team One and recognized as such when the Field Hockey Center was dedicated in 2014.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHmw69vrmF4 I am in the video… though in looking at that video, we weren’t all at our playing condition. I know I wasn’t.
I wanted to play against women. I would have been offended to find out that a biological man was on my team or the opposing team. It was important to us that we were recognized as a women’s team on the intercollegiate level and not as something less.
I took a lot of science classes in my lifetime and the male genes do have an advantage in many physical areas. Likewise, the female genes give women a bunch of advantages in other areas. Taking hormones will not modify all of the advantages of the genetic makeup. Granted, the earlier one takes the “anti-hormones” may decrease the advantage. But, it does not eliminate all of the advantages.
I am glad I played intercollegiate sports with women and I want our girls to enjoy the same option.
Thanks for your personal perspective. I hope more people step out and share their views like you courageously did. It’s the only way to save women’s sports.
Personally, I have nothing against trans. BUT, I do think it is unfair and selfish for 0.03% of the population to demand they screw up sports for 50% of the population. I do not know why the media keeps pushing for the destruction of female sports for the sake of making a very very small number of people feel a bit better about themselves.
To put this in perspective – Imagine if all the people who are over 6 foot 6 inches tall (about 0.4% of the population) DEMANDED that everyone wear stilts or platform shoes – so that the tallest people do not have to constantly look down.
People would call them out as selfish jerks. But in our wacky worl;d, the most bizarre demands by the woke is met with all seriousness of the mainstream media and the ones who call it out are deemed to be the selfish ones.
DONT BE SHY – CALL THEM OUT – THEY ARE WRONG – IT’S NOT FAIR.
Hear, hear!
If I have the dogma down right, doesn’t this mean Caitlan Jenner is ‘transphobic’ and a ‘hater’ and must be cancelled?
Sorry I can’t get past the very first sentence;
Caitlyn Jenner, who announced her run for California governor.
“Her”?????
I need someone to transcribe Shadie’s tweet for me, please.
Ultimately, “Caitlin'” is still Bruce, as an autopsy would show.
He can have breast implants, grow his hair long, and paint his nails. He is still a man, just a more sophisticated/medically-enhanced cross-dresser of earlier times. I DO find it disturbing he took the same name as one of his stepdaughters, albeit a different spelling.
Pretty sure they don’t have a Caitlin.
The evidence is pretty clear that trans women have an advantage in a number of sports if they were to compete against women. Whilst a complex issue it would be honest to at least acknowledge that it’s complex and requires at minimum a thoughtful discussion around the issues. Using terms like TERF seems to me to be entirely inappropriate.
The issue is not complex at all. It is simply a matter of fairness.
When .03% of the population are trying to force the rest of the people to do things their way. Solely to benefit that very very small group. That is fundamentally unfair.
In an earlier post, I used the example to illustate the point. Imagine if those who are very very tall demanded that all people wear stilts so that the very tall do not have to bend down. That would change everyone’s behavior just to benefit people over 6 foot 6 inches..
Would you be okay with that ?
Of course not. You would consider it a selfish demand that forces millions of people to alter their life for a very small number of people.
The trans issue is the same. It is fundamentally unfair. to ruin women’s sports to accommodate a very small number of people.
I take your point and agree to a certain point but there are complex issues. This relates to fast twitch vs slow twitch muscle fibres, the extend to which the intrinsic male traits contribute to competitiveness , There are specific examples that has been suggested that women are on an equal footing to men or may even out perform thus taking a generalised position might not be appropriate. I’m certainly no expert on the subject so by stating its complex I’m trying to get at that making a generalised statement might not necessarily be true in all cases. In other words I don’t know enough by any stretch to make a solid conclusion and therefore doing would therefore be wrong of me in either direction. Given the issue of fairness centres around biological advantages its something that needs to be addressed on a sport by sport bases in my view.
Even with Hormone therapy, biological males that compete with biological women STILL have a biological advantage, and it is simply unfair !
If there’s no advantage, why are so many trans women breaking so many records?
regardless of what point jenner happens to be at on his “journey,” bruce/caitlin’s heart is in the right place
this is a person who competed(as a man)against some of the most accomplished male athletes on the planet–this is a person that knows of where they speak–and they speak plainly, clearly–letting men-pretending-to-be-women compete against authentic females is unfair–period
bravo/brava and thank you