The Trump Movement As We Knew It Ended Today
Anyone who thinks today was just another negative news cycle is deluding themselves.
It’s often hard to understand the impact an event will have in the future when you are going through it in real time or soon after.
Today’s storming of the Capitol, including rioting, is one of those real-time events about which I’m comfortable reaching some conclusions.
The first and most obvious conclusion is that while peaceful protests outside the Capitol are appropriate, fighting with Capitol Police outside, breaking into the building in a violent and menacing manner, fighting with police inside, and then proceeding towards and into the House and Senate chambers requiring evacuation of representatives and Senators is not acceptable. A woman being shot dead by police, while not inevitable, was a consequence. It’s even more unacceptable when Congress is performing a constitutional duty to open and count electoral votes.
The fact that we have seen violent conduct from the left in recent years also directed at key institutions does not excuse it. Yes, among many other events, we saw anti-Scott Walker protesters take over the Wisconsin statehouse and menace lawmakers, and Antifa/BLM assault federal courthouses and turn sections of cities into war zones. And yes, Democrats and the media excused such violence, and there is a double standard as there always is where pro-Trump “mostly peaceful” protests are not given the same consideration as mostly violent leftist protests. And yes, it’s possible (but not clear) that some of the violent rioters were outside agitators. Politics is not fair, and it’s never been more unfair than how Trump supporters are treated by the media.
But there was something uniquely offensive to our form of government to have such violence directed at the U.S. Capitol on such a constitutionally meaningful day.
Which leads me to the second point about which I am confident. Today has forever changed the trajectory of the Trump movement.
Donald Trump created a movement that brought tens of millions of people forgotten by politics into the system, which brought electoral victory to a Republican Party that had become used to losing to the Obama-coalition, which brought so much progress and accomplishments to the economy and foreign relations. He brought into the movement an unprecedented multiracial and multiethnic coalition united not by skin color but by love of country.
That movement was embodied in Trump, a unique figure, who had all the obvious personality perculiarities that allowed him to withstand a withering attempt to sabotage his administration and him personally. For four years Trump kept things under control, with Twitter as his vent — he didn’t start wars, didn’t sic the FBI and IRS on political opponents, didn’t do any of the truly repressive things his predecessors did. If not for the relentless attempts to undermine his presidency, his term may have been fairly boring.
Yet things have not been kept under control since election day, and particularly in the past 2-3 weeks. I think a lot of his supporters would acknowledge that.
I had no problem with litigating election disputes, even if some of those disputes were suspect. Let the court process run its course, I advocated. But once that process had run out, and not a single judge, not even Trump appointed judges, upheld any challenges, it was time to move onto more productive action. I advocated on December 14, moving towards building a resistance movement, not engaging in futile and stupid actions that had zero or close to zero chance of success, such as proposing alternative electoral votes.
But that’s not what happened, instead unreliable commentators picked up on the notion that Mike Pence could just reject electoral votes, something completely contrary to the plain wording of the Constitution. Neither Pence, nor even any of the Republican Senators willing to challenge the result through the congressional statutory process, took the position that Pence had such power. Yet that notion became an obsession, so much so that even today Trump in his rally speech was demanding Pence take such action.
Anyone who thinks today was just another negative news cycle is deluding themselves just as people were deluded into thinking grand conspiracy theories or Pence could act as kingmaker deluded themselves. Today was different.
The issue will be whether the Trump coalition can hold together, and who can hold it together. Should Trump choose to be that leader, he will retain his core base, there are a lot of Trump supporters — maybe even the majority — for whom it’s just become too much now. It can’t continue the way it was, there has to be some new way of making an American-economy-first, worker-first, capitalism-and-liberty-first coalition stay together. It may be that there is no one other than Trump who can hold the coalition together, but if that’s the case, then the coalition will break apart because the center cannot hold after today.
The Trump movement as we knew it ended today, though it may not have ended for good. That’s a reality we can see even in real time.
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While I can’t help but think that today’s violence was not incited by Trump, but was instead provoked and initiated by Antifa/BLM, it was irresponsible for Trump to promise a “wild” day in the first place–and irresponsible for Trump supporters to respond to such a call.
It was going to WILD even if President Trump was out town and said nothing.
The Democrats planned to see to that.
yup Steelman
And just like that, it’s no longer about the stolen election, massive voter fraud and ensuring the integrity of Future elections, and is instead about the how the ruling class got its ego bruised.
Stay focused on the election fraud, don’t let the deep state distract away from the stolen election!!!
Fyi
President Trump BANNED Pence’s Chief of Staff From the White House – Not Allowed on WH Grounds – GP
Cool that Trump banned Pence’s chief of staff from the White House.
How many pair of Nikes were stolen?
So I guess LI is back in LOTE noseholding mode. Good-bye.
What is LOTE?
Lesser of Two Evils.
Took me a bit before I figured it out.
DLTDHYITAOYWO.
You are right on the money, alohahola. Why blame Trump or his 75 million followers for a false-flag operation? The events of yesterday were instigated and conducted by the usual leftists. It has nothing to do with Trump. This was so obvious. The major media, including Fox, knew, and know, this was a false flag operation, but they come to bury Trump, not to praise him. They and the useful idiot RINOs and Never-Trumpers are trying to make Trump a man without a country, but they are being far too modest, and understate: There are now over 75 million people now without a country. The left and the anti-Trumps are accomplishing their purpose – to keep the fake election unexamined and the loyal citizens suppressed.
https://nypost.com/2021/01/07/known-antifa-members-posed-as-pro-trump-to-infiltrate-capitol-riot-sources/
Evidence Mounts Antifa,
Disguised as Patriots,
Triggered Capitol Violence
https://banned.video/watch?id=5ff78ebd04bcc034cc085a73
I almost never post anywhere, but I’ll say this. The professor’s assertion has a familiar academic professional quality to it that does not reflect the boots on the ground. This is hardly the ‘end’ of the political movement inspired by and, largely, embodied by Trump. I was an unlikely early supporter. It was his national and international policies that attracted me then. And now. And that won’t end with the end of this administration. He received 74.2 million votes. No R has ever come close to that and if the R’s abandon the policies he promoted and fought for, they can forget winning the WH again. No R who completely repudiates Trump has a national political future. You can take issue with some, maybe many, of his personality, but the policies stick. The professor is just a little too delicate of an academic to understand the bigger picture. Politics is rough and tumble. What happened yesterday is just a taste of what we may be headed for if those 74 million votes and the policies they endorse are laid by the wayside by academics who fear to tread on the ‘established order’. I don’t condone all of the protestors actions, but I understand their gut reactions to the election and the politics that has infected the so-called ‘honorable opposition’ since 2016. Professor, there’s no going back during your lifetime or mine. I think we are in for bumpy ride.
Hear!
Hear!
Imo the votes were around 85 million or MORE.
You are wrong about it being the end and for thinking any of what happened was Trump’s fault. But even more importantly, you are completely wrong about Pence not having the authority to reject the electoral votes. He had a Constitutional DUTY to reject them and have a commission appointed for a 10 day investigation of the fraud. Pennsylvania even wanted to decertify their votes. The 6 states in question certified their votes as being a true and fair count. That alone is a lie. How can the votes be proper and correct if there were many more ballots than there were registered voters, not to mention the hundreds of other irregularities and illegal votes found? Certifying on a lie nullifies the results. If Pence had returned the electors back to the states, he would have been upholding the Constitutional protection of free and fair elections. He would NOT be infringing upon states rights to conduct elections as they see fit. States do not have the right to falsify the voters’ intentions.
Hopefully, at this point, Trump will let it drop. I really think he was a large part of the loss of the two Senate seats in GA. I’m not sure he will run again because I really don’t think the Republicans would want baggage and I don’t think his ego could stand the loss. I’m saying this as a person who voted for him twice I don’t regret my first one but I have my doubts about the second one after his behavior today.
Trump was out there encouraging supporters to vote in Georgia. Other so called Republicans were telling people not to bother- let the Dems have it.
I forget the term my son used today- but those encouraging people to not vote Trump are the people who want the boogaloo to happen- the sooner the better as far as they’re concerned.
More BS. Trump played fairly, he could have responded in kind with dirty tricks. He did not, and I respect him for that. Yet my life experience is that quite often the only way to reign in gutter dwellers, is to join them in the gutter to kick the living shit out of them.
The Marxist-Democratic party is loaded with thugs, thieves and con artists and even murderers. When Hillary was talking about deplorables, she knew full well that she and the party were such. She is an expert in using deplorables, and representative of her party.
My ass you voted for him.
Georgia was fraud. Same as 3 November.
There was no way the Republicans were going to win those 2 seats regardless. This time, they didn’t even pull out any excuses to keep election monitors out (last time was a lie about a broken water pipe). The monitors then went and got a court order, but were still not allowed in even with the court order.
I think this election has showed that there really is no remedy for fraud. Courts don’t want to disenfranchise fake voters, and legislatures aren’t in session. Now that this is abundantly clear, the D’s have no constraints. What do we do now?
Revolt
No, no, we’re not allowed to revolt. This would be lowering ourselves to their standards, which we as Republicucks can never permit. No, like our moral champions, the European Jews, the most important thing is for us to be able to show that at all times we acted completely honorably and in accordance with all arbitrary laws, to the point where we can virtue signal this to our progeny from our gravestones. Assuming we are allowed our own gravestones. Or our own progeny.
I agree with you except for this..some of my relatives were the European Jews who lost their lives. Knowing what we know now, I would not want them to go submissively to the death camps. They may have had a chance had they fought before getting on the trains.
Plebis. “Revolt” cannot happen until a greater percentage of the 74 – 80 + million (including all those dependent on government payments – 60+ % of the economy) conclude they have more to gain than lose by or too much to lose by not engaging in such an undertaking. … Perhaps in a year or two or ten … When following rapidly rising inflation, suspended COLAs, admission that gold reserves are non existent, … more cannot ignore that the CCP now current threat of imminent war was to ensure their puppet candidates were “certified”. … And the “traitors” in Congress have apologized for the USN ship(s) sunk by the PLA Navy being in the “wrong place”, and then celebrate annexation of Hong Kong and Taiwan for “peace” (perhaps also Korea and Japan). … Or perhaps when the British are so overwhelmed with failures at home that they lose the ability to run our State Department, or Washington factions become so blatant in their competition that the pathetic charade that they are subordinate to “one executive, a purposeful legislature and functioning judiciary” cannot be maintained dictating “the end of the game”. … And then there is always the unknown.
There is no doubt that the progressive fascists cheated Biden into power as president. There is plenty of evidence to support this claim. They were more careful in the senate race so there isn’t as much evidence. If we let this go we will never have fair elections again.
We need Trump to hold things together, and we need Trump for resources. Hoping he would just fade away is foolish.
Trump is an American Akhenaten of sorts. The priest class is going to try and wipe every memory of him out. They started before he was even elected.
America is in deep trouble.
This is bigger and higher than President Trump.
The Left, the GOPe, and the Never Trumpers don’t understand that. They think it’s a personality cult. And that’s a good thing, because it means they think if they can defeat Trump, they have defeated the movement.
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
Napoleon
Spot on.
They are trying to mold mercury into a Chi-Com statue of Xie.
Ain’t gonna happen!!!!!!
Were it that easy.
America doesn’t exist anymore.
The trouble is we are stuck in a Junta-run land. We need to leave it, and take what is ours with us.
When Winston Churchill was in Moscow to meet Stalin in August 1942, he asked Uncle Joe “What happened to the kulaks?” Sir Alec Cadogan recorded ‘There was not even the flicker of an eyelid, he [Stalin] turned and with a nonchalant wave of the hand said “Oh! They went away.”‘
We are all kulaks now.
How long will it be before the DC uni-party elite decide to introduce American patriots to “A whiff of grapeshot” as Napoleon famously said?
Some people broke in but most of the people just walked in and thought they were allowed to be in the Capitol building. It was not anything threatening. The Capitol twerps are just playing it up. I was more disgusted at the Congresscritters and there BS speeches when they reconvened. Schumer tried to compare this to Pearl Harbor. LOL.
That is completely untrue. The Tea Party existed long before Trump ever got involved in politics and was beating the Barky-coalition like a red-headed stepchild. It was the Vichy GOP (who the Tea Party gave power back to, to stop Barky) who killed the Tea Party. Remember Mcconnell saying that crushing the Tea Party was his main goal, or the Weeping Boehner talking about how he was worried about Tea Party violence (LOL) but he “understood” the Occupy Wall Street insurrectionists?
Trump didn’t start this movement. He is just one of the very few politicians who remained true to it when he got into office.
I have heard first hand reports from people at the capital building that its doors were opened up to them and they thought they had been INVITED IN to the “People’s House.”
When something terrible happens, you have to ask “Who benefits from all this?”
Clearly Trump and his supporters could never benefit from what took place.
The Dems and the media are claiming they tried to violently take over the government. A few hundred unarmed people could even attempt to conquer the country? Ridiculous.
But Schumer, Pelosi, Biden et al gained tremendously from today’s actions. Right now Republicans who were going to oppose Biden are saying that they are changing their vote. That is exactly what they wanted.
And every vindictive, dishonest, criminal and evil thing they do from now on will be justified because of what happened today.
Again we ask: “Who benefits from all this?” BY knowing who benefits, you can determine who caused it to happen.
They only think they gained – the same way Hitler, and Napoleon thought when they invaded thousands of miles into Russia……
The most excellent statement of the day.
Who benefits does not tell us who stormed the Capitol building.
I disagree with Professor Jacobsen about the contestaion of what I believe was clearly a stolen election, but I fear that he is right about the effect of yesterday’s violence. The left controls the means of communication and the resort to violence by a few Trump suporters will be overplayed and eventually likely accepted by a majority of the population.
We’ve seen the NO FRAUD mantra pushed by the media over the course of the last 2 months and the number of people who believe there was widespread election fraud has been cut in half.
Ted Cruz provided a path to a fair resolution. The courts have refused to adjudicate the claims of fraud. There is sufficient evidence of illegal votes being counted in GA, PA and WI to not accept the improperly certified results. State Legislatures have exclusive jurisdiction to pass election laws. The “laws” which governed this election imposed in the GA and PA by SOSs and Governors are illegal. These “laws” have produced an illegitimate result. In WI the number of illegal votes were still being identified.
I fear for America after an election worthy of a banana republic. The mere counting of votes other than in a bipartisan manner produced an illegitimate result.
I believe one other thing is clear. Violence is counterproductive. The resistance to the illegitimate Harris/Biden presidency must be non-violent or it will be worse than useless.
Rush Limbaugh’s Undeniable Truth of Life #6: The world is governed by the aggressive use of force.
Take the aggressive use of force off the table only if you are looking forward to having your very own black polyethylene casket at your local FEMA camp.
Yeah! Non-violence! That’ll convince ’em! (Of nothing!)
I know let’s start a petition against election fraud, the new “Pink Elephant” according to the lefty MSM! Nothing strikes fear into the antifa/BLM crowd like 50,000 signatures on a petition.
And if that doesn’t work, we should primary all those RINOs who turned against the people!
That’ll teach’em fer shure!
A mostly peaceful protest? I seem to have heard that somewhere.
Well, to be honest, I believe one of those velvet-rope posts may have been tipped over. Saw scary images of a wooden bench upended, and, yes, a few broken windows.
Most of the ‘rioters’ even made sure to stay inside the velvet rope barriers provided to direct visitor traffic. There are videos showing this.
Today we weed out the fake Trump supporters in the GOP and the ‘conservative’ media, the ones who never really supported Trump, from the genuine Trump supporters.
I wonder how many of the 74 million voters — 10 million more than any GOP POTUS candidate has ever received, 14 million more than McCain or Romney — who cast a vote for Trump changed their mind today. My guess — very few.
What happened today doesn’t change the belief, IMO fact, the election was stolen. The ramifications of a stolen election are far, far greater than today’s relatively insignificant events.
China Joe is an illegitimate President. Our federal government is illegitimate.
I agree, I stand for Trump, and I am really tired of schemers. Maybe we need to start rioting and burning on Dem turf?
I voted for Trump twice. If her runs in 2024, I will vote for him a third time.
Otherwise, I am done with voting.
“Today we weed out the fake Trump supporters in the GOP and the ‘conservative’ media, the ones who never really supported Trump, from the genuine Trump supporters.”
Include Prof. Jacobson among the faux Trump supporters. He began as NeverTrump, he pretended to support Trump to push the Neocon agenda, and he now shows his true, anti-American colors.
Well, wouldn’t go that far.
The Prof just needs a little more Apache in him.
Ezer Weizman.
I demur. You need a little more Jacobsen realism in you.
Where is the “Reserve Judgment” fist?
I’ll willing to give the good perfesser the count of 100 to make up his mind, who he supports.
Hear, hear.
Trump did not create the movement. The Dems and the GOPe created the movement.
It is time to move on and come together. I was thinking Capital Hill could be raised to the ground and a go-cart race track could be put in its place. What are your ideas?
My thought is: it’s “Capitol” hill; the phrase is “razed to the ground” (nothing is “raised” here); and they are typically spelled “go-karts”… so if your philosophy is as intelligent as your grammar — it usually is — then most likely we’re all safe from you.
We do not need to listen to myself or you. We will be told what our vote and opinions are months prior to elections. Good to see that you have that grammar Goose-Step down, you will find it useful.
Wonkery becomes you…..I guess.
Did it get you any dates with high SMV members of the opposite sex?
Good idea about the go kart track. Each kart should have a swamp prick tied to it a dragged behind it.
Always thinking ahead, I like that about you TheFineReport!
But will they put soapy water on the track?
Co-carts aren’t fun without the element of danger.
No, the track surface would be like sandpaper.
Prof J needs to keep his job. This is his “beard”
Totaly unfair. Your comment is disgraceful.
You still here?
Thought you ran home to grab your teddy and hide under the bed!
I don’t agree
I don’t know what is to come, but WE are tired of being called names, pushed around in our own Country, watching them abuse our President for 5 years, comitt treason, on and on
You think the 80-100 million of us would just stop, stop supporting him, the cause, give in?
I agree. And I add:
Show me the prosecutions from the 2016 election! It is all well and good to say we can litigate but IMO lady justice has already been beaten, raped and left for dead in some alley off Pennsylvania Avenue.
Transformation is the word.
Last week reports stated that even 30% of Democrats that voted for Biden thought there was election fraud.
Think these two tweets pretty well summarize the day.
Greg Kelly
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Wow. Last summer they RIOTED AND PULLED DOWN STATUES in front off the WHITE HOUSE and they put it in a NIKE commercial and OBAMA said how “proud” he was. Today—we have people WALKING abound a building (the Capitol) and and the media are call it CHAOS.
Techno_Fog
Those politicians that send our children to fight and die in foreign wars?
They hit the floor and cower when unarmed protesters enter their building.
These are the people sending our children to die so America can “save face” abroad.
MUST SEE PIC IN TWEET.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1346993928910811138
“They hit the floor and cower when unarmed protesters enter their building.”
That is because they know that their actions deserve to be met with force, and that is why they want to take our guns. I suspect that Biden and Ho Harris know that armed rebellion is likely to come from their actions.
And just like that…TechnoFog is a suspended account.
Complete double standard. Show us your outrage for the litany of leftist garbage we’ve been forced to eat. The courts are closed to us, the politicians are beyond corrupt, the press serve only their corporate interests and the only people ever punished are on the right. Spare us. As long as you get yours f the people, right?
I suggest you refrain from talking about Professor Jacobson like this. He is a warrior who sacrifices much for the sake of conservatism.
Very true. Trump supporters can’t loot and burn all the major cities like it’s the movie “The Purge” and then expect any sort of electoral victories in the future …
That’s what the British said in 1776.
Btw, how did the democrats just do it and win??
The media is the air superiority of the Democrat Party. While it’s possible to win a war without it, it’s not easy.
The GOPe spent 5 years undermining Trump and thus his supporters. When they had all three branches of government, they let us all down with their inability to legislate. People like McCain relished in stabbing Americans in the back, for petty spite. McCain had goldplated medical care; the Americans he stabbed in the back did not.
There will be those that “distance” themselves from Americans First, because they don’t have what it takes to keep a republic. So be it. The rest of us will do it, and those with a weak stomach will be the unintended beneficiaries.
Trump talked about Pence taking that role, because the country needs saved from a Chinese agent. Biden advances toward senility and he always was a cantankerous, self-involved, self-important child molesting ass, made dangerous by his ability to milk his senatorial career.
I’ve been quite surprised by the lack of discussion about Electors themselves having a constitutional role to play, to-wit, voting without regard to their states’ voters, when the results of the state election hand us a presumptive officeholder in the pocket of a foreign government. The notes of the Constitutional Convention are rife with discussions on this, yet so many states have made it a “crime” for a “faithless” elector scenario.
They acted without knowledge of the convention’s discussions. Such shallow legislating shows us even more the great insight and wisdom of that generation. Breathtaking in their prescience.
So, this movement will continue forward, it will struggle on, because honestly, it is simply a movement for survival. The alternative is to quietly allow a dementia patient and a prostitute for political advancement to turn us all over to the tender mercies of barbarians such as the chinese, that remove organs from living people, without anesthesia, and cartels that kill people over territory and drug money, etc.
This is a movement for survival, for the ability to live in a civilization rather than in a terrifying barbarism.
We will find a way, or perish.
Spot on.
Every word of your post is golden and true.
We will find a way or make one.
Solvitur Ambulando.
“I’ve been quite surprised by the lack of discussion about Electors themselves having a constitutional role to play, to-wit, voting without regard to their states’ voters, when the results of the state election hand us a presumptive officeholder in the pocket of a foreign government.”
You do realize this is the exact same argument used by Hilary supporters in 2016. It was absurd then and it is absurd now.
Joe Biden is a moron and his family a bunch of low class grifters but, as much as I loath him, he is not a traitor.
I have to disagree with you Mass. Your comment about Joe Biden not being a traitor is wrong. Joe will be “The Leader of the Free World”. When he, and his family, take money from the Communist Chinese, He is a traitor.
Mass, Hillary also votes. That doesn’t mean I’ll decline to do so.
By the way, Sen. Schumer, the Pearl Harbor boats and some of the remains are still at the bottom of the bay, or the ocean, out in Hawaii.
But you, tonight, are sitting at your usual desk in the Senate.
You sound like the idiot you are.
It is the end of something.
Remember Lois Lerner? Conservatives can expect their government to become weaponized against them at every level. They won’t even try to hide it.
One of the last legit stories I read was Trump was trying to end banks denying service to legal business entities (ie- gun dealers). They are at war with us.
Big Tech has made no secret of this.
I don’t condone what happened today, but I know why it happened. The Republic we knew is likely dead. You’ll know it for certain if/when they try to pack the Supreme Court. If they succeed in that…well I’m never walking near another parked RV again.
It’s sad, because when the divorce happens, China and Russia will swoop in to consolidate our weaker allies. It’s likely they are already putting stuff in motion to capitalize on a weak Biden admin. Picture Hong Kong, but on a global scale.
Yes, there was news yesterday, that China’s leader told the military to be ready for war at a second’s notice.
Yes, they’re watching us, stalking us.
And the idiots here talk about pronouns and “climate” whatever. No clue the jungle will eat us as soon as it thinks it can prevail over us.
As the Lefties love to say, today was the end of innocence. Whatever was left of it. For the Trump movement.
A stolen election and a murdered unarmed protester can do that.
We have our own problems, and we can’t sacrifice our own liberty to ensure someone else’s.
If we stay, we will be terrorized and many of us will be killed.
Yes, it is the end of the Republic that existed from April, 1865 until March, 2020. We are now in the formation stage of a new era.
Taiwan is toast soon. CCP will invade them and Joe will do nothing.
I totally agree and I am unbelievably frustrated about it. I’m not a Donald Trump fan, but I AM a PRESIDENT Donald Trump fan. Maybe it’s because I can’t stand the New York accent and attitude. But what he’s done for America… God Bless Him.
And do it soon, because he needs Divine Guidance. His rep, Rudy Giuliani gets up before a crowd President Trump has assembled, and cries out for ‘Trial by Combat’. The video available all over the internet shows guns drawn, doors barricaded. That’s not being invited in.
I dogged the Left, publicly, when the Leftist rioters in Seattle used the protest movement as a cover. EVERY leftist protest up here ends up with a small group of violent… people… who use the protest as cover for their destruction. They KNOW it’s going to happen, they LET it happen, the EXCUSE it happening… rinse and repeat.
Learn this: Angry protest will always give rioters cover to riot. Most Right wing marches are FOR something… and leave the area cleaner than before the march. Angry protests never will. They are MEANT to whip up the crowd to more anger, and to action they would not have otherwise joined. You think it was Antifa who was involved? Then why didn’t the Patriot crowd stop them?
Don’t be as stupid as the Left, and excuse this behavior. Condemn it. Condemn it now, and loudly, or our Freedom is lost.
I now have nobody to turn to as a place to join like-minded people in protest of Socialism.
Good job, Mr. Trump.
Trump is one man. He is not to blame. Guiliana is not to blame.
The workers in Dekalb and Fulton county that refused to let poll watchers watch, that processed ballots without poll watchers, that lied, lied, lied…. those people caused this. Them, and all the others that contributed to the decline of the integrity of our elections – like Stacy Abrams…. the democrat party, jeff zuckerberg. et cetera etc.
Close there are first hand reports from people in that capital hall that Senator Schumer and his plain clothes, armed security were in that same hall when the American veteran was shot.
Really want to know about that.
The guard shot the wrong damn person.
I LIVE in Fulton County…. I PERSONALLY visited over three dozen polling sites… WITH press pass … and there was not ONE SINGLE anomaly OR anyplace where there were “poll watchers” disallowed from watching the polls. Georgia state voting is virtually CONTROLLED by Republicans; TWO hand recounts AND a machine recount; ENORMOUS oversight…. There was NOTHING WRONG with the voting in Georgia.
Literally: NOTHING.
If the vote was fraudulent, why did ALL the Republicans on the ballot(s) not lose outright? Why did Perdue & Loeffler need special elections? (And don’t even START with the “false flag” garbage & say “that’s part of how they covered it up….” because it’s simply NOT TRUE)
Bottom line: a majority of Americans decided they did NOT want Donald Trump to serve a second term. Find a way to deal with it, just like I have had to do.
Oh look, anonymous claims from “Covert23,” filled with capitalized screeching. Because that’s evidence.
You didn’t check the voting machines and counters did you?
Metro Atlanta has more than one county. Here is the twitter account of David Bell Isle, he was a candidate for S.O.S. in the last election. Former Alpharetta mayor. He was a poll watcher this week.
Read his twit feed. Within 45 minutes they were threatening to call the cops on him, etc. He has a pic or two about distances permitted for poll watching.
https://twitter.com/BelleIsle4GA
Its interesting that you had personal experience of the election. Thank you for sharing, I would say that I doubt the others will change their mind. They aren’t very open to the possibility of being wrong.
There is no doubt that the Dems unconstitutionally changed election laws in ways that facilitated their cheating. They made it almost impossible for anyone to detect their cheating. This alone is enough to invalidate the elections.
Really?? I live in Georgia. My absentee ballot was sent to someone else and my vote didn’t count. I personally know two different people that happened to.
The Republicans who run this state are bought and paid for by something else other than conservative principles…most likely China. It’s not just the governor and the SOS…probably includes the Speaker of the House David Ralston, etc.
Report on the murdered woman.
WASHINGTON (KUSI) — The woman who was shot and killed inside the US Capitol during the protests was from the San Diego area.
KUSI News has spoken with her husband.
The woman is Ashli Babbit, a 14-year veteran, who served four tours with the US Air Force, and was a high level security official throughout her time in service.
Her husband says she was a strong supporter of President Trump, and was a great patriot to all who knew her.
https://www.kusi.com/kusi-news-confirms-identity-of-woman-shot-and-killed-inside-us-capitol/
If she was a Lefty she’d become a martyr for The Cause. There would be candlelight vigils all across the country tonight. And for the next week. The MSM would somberly cover the ‘grieving’ 24/7. They’d be interviewing people who knew who when she was just a child. Martyr posters would go up overnight all over the country. People would be wearing T-shirts with her face on them.
Obviously, the GOPe and RINOs don’t see this murder that way. And they don’t really care if the election was stolen.
And that, in a nutshell, is the problem. The reason the GOPe was rejected and Trump became the GOP candidated. And was elected. And it is why the GOPe will never hold elected power again at any time in the foreseeable future.
“And yes, Democrats and the media excused such violence, and there is a double standard as there always is where pro-Trump “mostly peaceful” protests are not given the same consideration as mostly violent leftist protests.”
Yes the Left disrupted the capitol (Kavanaugh Clownshow) they swept the midterms. When they burned our cities, the Democrats swept the general election. While I agree that politics is never ‘fair’ it’s also not pre-ordained.
I condemn yesterday’s violence.
BLM Stormed the Capitol
http://classicalvalues.com/2021/01/the-viking-is-blm/
MrMichael:
Are you a hairdresser?
You’re wrong.
JH, to whom are you responding?
Mr. Jacobson.
Trump’s cancerous narcissism is malignant. Trump isn’t about conservatism or respecting the constitution. Trump is about power and increasing his bank account. He doesn’t deserve respect, he deserves disdain.
I can understand why people voted for him instead of Clinton in 2016. Trump lost in 2020 because of Trump. 80+ million people voted for Biden and another 80 million decided not to vote. So, 160 million people said “no” to Trumpism. Thank God.
Dumb troll.
You sound like lots of people I know. They’re the dumbest people I know but you sound like them never the less.
Please go back to your mommy’s basement and leave the adults alone. Children should be seen and not heard.
How do you justify the illegal and unconstitutional changes that Dems made to election laws? Their changes facilitated cheating and made it impossible to prove election fraud. The constitution gives state legislators the sole power over election law, but weren’t consulted when these changed were made!
Legal insurrections are legitimate and acceptable. Illegal insurrections are not. Professor Jacobson and his staff of contributors get that.
Pray tell, how is a peaceful sightseeing of the Capitol tantamount to an illegal insurrection and who decides?
With a comment like “But there was something uniquely offensive to our form of government to have such violence directed at the U.S. Capitol on such a constitutionally meaningful day,” do you really think so?
Today was “constitutionally meaningful,” but not the way Prof. Jacobson meant. It was “constitutionally meaningful” because we now know that they have no regard for the rule of law themselves. They watched the theft of a national election, and sat on their hands, ready to count the votes of electors, many of whom do not meet the constitutional standard of selection “in such Manner as the Legislature(s)(of the several states) may direct,” because many of them were seated under rules created by secretaries of state, governors, and judges.
There comes a point were it is apparent that the apparatus doesn’t work the way it’s supposed to work. Indeed, the situation now is that the apparatus works against what it was supposed to work for. At that point, the apparatus must be torn down, because won’t allow itself to be simply dismantled, and it won’t dismantle itself. Like building being demolished, it must be torn down and the lot cleared, so a stronger foundation for a better building may be laid. For all the actual destruction caused by the people who demolish buildings, they are never mistaken for destroyers. Don’t let anyone call any patriot a destroyer. Every patriot’s goal is a better, stronger America, for the prosperity and tranquility of its people. Sometimes you have to demolish a building because it can’t be fixed.
The building I’d like to see built looks very much like the building that stands today, but the lights, plumbing, and AC work, and the septic system hasn’t overflowed into the front yard.
So illegal = wrong? I was under the impression that actions are illegal because they are wrong, not that they are wrong because they are illegal.
You know who does the illegal kind? Guess.
BLM Stormed the Capitol
http://classicalvalues.com/2021/01/the-viking-is-blm/
Be serious.
Unfortunate events took place today.
But they would have been avoided if the People had their requests for an honest, free, fair and transparent Election been honored.
They were not.
This lies wholly upon the Democrats.
I do not approve of the events today.
However, I stand firm on my demand to bring sunlight to this Election.
No other action will be acceptable.
And that has been thus far, been too much to ask.
The fault is not with me, or the People.
In Mr. Jacobson’s world when a cop shoots and kills an unarmed protester, who was not threatening him in any way, it means the end of the Trump movement.
And upside down is rightside up.
Our Founders would be proud of you.
They would have us surrender the entire Republic over a few bad actors.
I think not.
What evidence do you have that there are any “good actors” left in government?
If there are any, and I have sincere doubts about it, they are severely outnumbered.
A bunch of representatives and about 6 senators objected, to at least some of the clearly objectionable slates of electors. They did their jobs.
Pence did not do his.
Poor analysis and commentary, reads like a national review online article, by lowery or mccarthy, resignedly pompous and weary of being so intellectually superior; but evidently you are swimming too long in a fishbowl of nerd lawyerdom and navel gazing.
Today cemented the Patriots in their firm belief in the evil of the communist democrats, the media and the insufferable rinos.
Very democrat of you to dismiss the young white woman’s brutal death so cavalierly.
No notes on who began the “riot” ?
BLM Stormed the Capitol
http://classicalvalues.com/2021/01/the-viking-is-blm/
What happened today was thoroughly predictable, and the fact that it DIDN’T happen until today is a mark of just how restrained the Trump supporters have been.
All fucking year we’ve watched the left throw a massive tantrum over every thug criminal under the sun being shot by police as they looted, rioted, and burned. We saw ‘peaceful protests’ with ‘legitimate grievances’ being fawned over by every liberal in existence.
Does anybody doubt for a fucking second that if they had a fraction of the evidence that Biden had been cheated that there wouldn’t have been riots every day after the election?
We had a blatant, in-your-face steal of an election, and at every turn they all but laughed in our faces when we tried LITERALLY every legal recourse available.
It waited until today because it was the absolute last possible day to do it.
What happened today was thoroughly predictable and depressing.
Welcome to the new normal, liberals have successfully normalized the idea that political violence is acceptable.
With all due respect, there is a finality in the nature of our political dilemma that makes extreme action what is required. We know from direct observation that the American Left [Democrats] have absolutely mastered the art of vote fraud. It is not who votes how, but rather who counts the votes that counts. Further, they have convinced the courts to ignore the law and the plain text of the Constitution to protect the fraud. All of the way up to the Supreme Court. Mind you the Left has not won based on the evidence, but on “standing” and the laches doctrine.
Based on the vote fraud, they now have absolute control of the Legislative and Executive Branches. There is no way under the Constitution that I and a lot of other people can see where they can be removed from power or restricted to Constitutional actions. Functionally, they have rendered the Constitution moot and American elections, at all levels, to re-runs of Soviet elections. They have seized power and destroyed the credibility of core American institutions.
We are where the Social Contract [the Constitution] is functionally gone and where Hobbes and Clausewitz have far more factual bearing on the situation. When a Social Contract collapses, submission to whatever follows is not how it can be brought back. It takes active resistance that will by its nature be neither civil nor within the previous Social Contract. Those who have seized power, will have to have it seized back from them against their will.
In a society where the Left’s law enforcement and judicial machinery aid, abet, and encourage the commission of felonies against citizens, and the police are forbidden to protect citizens; it is going to be force or the threat of force that is needed to break the power of the usurpers. We have spent the last year watching the decomposition of the judicial system at the hands of those who are seizing power,.
The mass, and from what I have heard there were 1.5 million Patriots and a few hundred ANTIFA terrorists in DC, demonstration . . . including in the Peoples’ House, were a warning that Americans will not tolerate tyranny.
Incidentally, I understand that the Patriots entered through the doors on the first floor, and that the terrorist allies of the coup through the second floor. There was scaffolding blocked off by barricades that went up to the second floor and I have been given to understand that uniformed police of unknown department removed the barricades so ANTIFA terrorists could climb the scaffolding and enter the second floor.
The “constitutional duty” being performed was the carrying out of a coup to overturn the Constitution forever by destroying the Social Contract. It deserved to be interrupted, and while it was a vain hope, there was a possibility that the presence of citizens protesting might have called a few politicians back to a sense of duty and honor.
As I said, a vain hope. What is coming is going to be most stressful, I am sure. We may not, as a people and a nation, survive it. There are a lot of Americans who have sworn the Oath. Much more than the theoretical 3%. But in the absence a practical jurisprudential or political alternative; we old farts who swore the Oath have to do what we can so that our children will have a chance to be free.
Subotai Bahadur
Sooooo: “apparently” intelligent comments from someone named after a general under Ghengis Khan…. interesting.
It is my hope.of hopes that you are *actually* in intelligent, well-read left-centrist who’s pseudonymously posting this type stuff solely because it’s *soooooo* easy to see right through it, and point out the misinformation, misunderstanding, and outright ridiculosity.
I *hope* …. but i’m unsure.
You didn’t actually make an argument there, sport. You attacked his user name and ridiculed his intelligence, but you made no attempt to counter anything he wrote. Any particular reason, or are you just trolling?
We got the law enforcement we have when we gave up the right to self medication. The Drug Police. Who do not care about your need. Just their rules and they will break down your doors to enforce them. And now no door is safe. Told you so.
Addiction is a symptom of PTSD. Says Nobel Prize Winner in Medicine Eric Kandel. Dr. Lonny Shavelson found that 70% of female heroin addicts were sexually abused in childhood.
The origin of leftism is anger. The Democrat Party thrives on anger. And who is more angry than an abused child? The god of abused children is Satan (anger leads to the dark side). The politics of abused children is Communism. Stop child abuse.
In other words Leftism is God’s curse for not protecting children better and then punishing them for pain relief.
What? You thought those SWAT teams were just for dopers?
Simon, totes agree. Abused people self-medicate…. and when they’re ready, if they ever get there, they seek therapy and join AA.
Men, if you have been assaulted as a child or an adult, http://www.MaleSurvivor.org has resources to help. It wasn’t your fault, you can get better.
And yes, the dems use angry confused people to get and stay in power. I don’t think Pelosi was abused as a child, but she clearly enjoys dominating abused people in order to have them do her bidding. She’s sick.
Let us not forget that the Drug Police, as constitutionally questionable as they may be, are nothing more than the bastard children of the Booze Police, which were 100% constitutionally created and the product of nothing but our own political stupidity. We have indeed met the enemy… and while he may not be us, he is unquestionably a majority of us, and always will be.
“But there was something uniquely offensive to our form of government to have such violence directed at the U.S. Capitol on such a constitutionally meaningful day.”
I disagree. Violent leftists have long operated in Washington and on Capitol Hill with impunity. For decades Code Pink has made quite a name for themselves with their violent physical altercations during hearings inside Congress. There there were the Pussy Hat riots in 2017, the violence at the Kavanaugh hearings, and the BLM/Antifa riots this past June (openly encouraged by the Washington mayor and Communist leaders in Congress). Violence in Washington DC is a well-established tradition in the Capitol – and the Left is 100% to blame.
What made today unusual was (1) it was non-leftists doing the disrupting for a change, and (2) the headlong rush by Republicans to embrace the Communists’ version of events. Heckfire – Antifa terrorists threatened Senator Hawley’s wife and baby less than 48 hours ago. Did even a single Republican condemn THAT violence?
If the Republicans and Communists want an end to political violence, maybe they should stop encouraging Antifa and BLM to riot, burn, loot, rape and murder the poor and the helpless. Or do they really expect people they are tormenting to go on taking it?
What happened today was the greedy, evil Congresscritters getting a taste of their own medicine. Stop exploiting the poor, stop corrupting justice, stop using the Constitution as toilet paper, and stop treating the US government as your personal possession.
and remember the murder of Seth Rich…..
Nope. It was leftists doing the violence. Again.
BLM Stormed the Capitol
http://classicalvalues.com/2021/01/the-viking-is-blm/
The differing reactions show who Congress is really scared of. And that’s a good sign — the politicians are supposed to be scared of the people, and not vice versa.
On the other hand they know groups like BLM are easily controllable.
We need to ban lawyers from “public service”. They don’t serve the public, they use it as an excuse to serve themselves.
Do you realize there are videos of the DC police opening the doors for Antifa to come into the Capital building? Probably done to give the RINO’s an excuse to punk out.
There was no breach. They were let in. Antifa
First hand reports of people there said the doors were open and they thought they were being invited into the People’s House.
This website has always been about a legal insurrection by name, by design. I appreciate what it stands for and how we aim to achieve our goals here.
I won’t waste much time on what went wrong today, except to say that violence will give the current state the excuse to impose more restrictions. It may find those excuses anyway. Unlike prior crises in America, the power of the state has never been stronger or more corrupt in America, combined with an unprecedented surveillance society and unbelievably feckless leaders.
There is an unbelievable double standard in play. However, law and order and a legal insurrection is still the path forward.
Trump was always a symptom of frustration with the status quo for 70 some million supporters, we must continue the fight every day. Trump showed millions how to fight and to expect more fight from our leaders, let’s demand it or provide it.
The path to escape from this is rare across all of history. May God bless America with the grace to find its roots again, but let’s help fight and find that way.
Was the American Revolution a legal insurrection?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all
men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights………
Yes, actually, it was a legal insurrection. The whole point of the declaration of independence was to show the world how it was legal. And the most important thing about it is that it was not done by random bands of armed thugs and “militias” claiming to act in “the people’s” name, but by the people’s legitimately elected representatives. It was the colonies that revolted, not individuals within them.
You forgot the Boston Tea Party.
Preceded by the burning of the HMS Rose in 1772 at Gaspee Point in Warwick, Rhode Island.
Oh come off it. It was not “legal.” It was justified, it was ethical, but it was not LEGAL. The Founders engaged in open rebellion against the legal authorities of the time.
Come on, you’re on a law blog… do you not understand the difference?
Clearly Great Britain, the Crown, and parliament did not think it was legal. There were a great many colonist who did not either who supported and fought for retention of the American colonies to remain under the authority of the king and parliament.
“Yes, actually, it was a legal insurrection.”
Certainly not according to the laws of the Kingdom of Great Britain and its Parliament and Monarch.
“The whole point of the declaration of independence was to show the world how it was legal.”
And also to underline the abuses of the British authorities and how the Continental Congress and associated states had opted to finally get out of the abusive relationship once and for all.
“And the most important thing about it is that it was not done by random bands of armed thugs and “militias” claiming to act in “the people’s” name, but by the people’s legitimately elected representatives.”
HAHAHAHAHA… oh wait, you’re serious?
First and Foremost: a lion’s share of the Patriot Troop Composition at any given time during the protracted crisis between about 1770 and 1783 were “armed thugs and “Militias.” Entities such as the Continental Army and Navy and recognized state militias such as the assorted Minutemen Companies (particularly in Massachusetts) were moderately small next to their assembled weight and generally recruited from them.
That’s one of the big problems with researching the American Revolutionary War, especially once you get too far from the Littoral: the neat battle lines or campaigns we’re used to fade away and instead we get Yugoslavia The Trial Run, especially in the Western Frontier and the South. Indeed, many crucial battles and campaigns were fought and won by “units” that were little better than armed gangs, many worse-organized (if also less malevolent) than the Free Companies of the Hundred Years’ War.
The duly elected officials knew this. And the lamentations they had about it (as well as general complaints about the statute of Militia troops- to say nothing of outright randos coming in) did not stop them from partaking in it. Which is why they generally sought to “legitimize” it by either commissioning already-existing partisan bands or militias into the Continental Army or State Militias, or having officers commissioned in one or the other go out to recruit form that.
This is why you see the likes of Isaac Shelby partner with the brutal Patriot warlord William Campbell and a mixed nuts assortment of a dozen other commanders (about half with formal rank and half not) that destroyed the British in the King’s Mountain Campaign, which was also accompanied by terrible discipline and assorted atrocities. The likes of Washington and Jefferson were justifiably disgusted by such misconduct, but they apparently did not feel enough regret to want to give Lord Cornwallis back one of his subsidiary commands (even if the sloppy conduct by Campbell’s barely organized gangs meant a good chunk of said army slipped out of the prisoner convoys and did anyway). Somehow the story further West in places like the Ohio Country were even worse.
And this is before I get into the privateering and periodically outright piracy our major ports conducted during the war.
Or the matter that “militias” and gangs might not have been the first to voice hostility towards Parliament and Crown’s legal usurpations or the like, but they were among the first massed movements giving teeth to said opposition, co-existing along with and even enabling more mainstream opposition like the Anti-Stamp Act Protestors. The Sons of Liberty were bluntly domestic terrorists (Remarkably polite domestic terrorists sure, but still) acting as frontmen for an alliance of patriot political leaders and smugglers who found their cuts damaged (many of whom were the same people). And need I talk about John Adams’s characterization of the protestors that were later shot at by the British in the Boston Bloodbath (I dislike calling it a “massacre”) in 1770?
None of this is stuff I LIKE. Indeed. I would rather do without. But history is history and frankly we have a very sanitized and idealized view of what the Revolutionary War was like and how it was fought.
“It was the colonies that revolted, not individuals within them.”
Individuals had been revolting since before the formal declaration of independence. In many ways they led the way.
The Battle of Bunker’s Hill was fought more than a year prior to the issuance of the Declaration of Independence. The battles of Lexington and Concord as well. The Boston Tea Party preceded the Declaration of Independence by 2 years and seven months.
My reading of history indicates the British did not find any of this to be legal. A great many persons living in the colonies also thought these actions were illegal and supported the government in England.
Not sure where Milhouse is getting these statements. Surely he does not want to see the current political situation devolve into anarchy and violence. If so, I am with him in whole heart and spirit, but history is what it is, and the founders also thought they were committing illegal acts and could very well end up hanged by the Crown for it.
It wasn’t a “legal insurrection” to King George III.
Do you remember what Old Ben Franklin told the other Signers? “We must hang together, or we will most surely hang separately.” He knew. They knew.
It wasn’t “legal” at all until the French supported them and the British surrendered.
The defenders of The Álamo did not conduct a “legal insurrection” either, but the site is now the biggest shrine in Texas.
Fine. And we don’t write with quill pens anymore, but if the media would stop blocking us, we can write very good explanations for what’s going on now too. In fact the explanations are so good, they see the need to block us.
So we too show how things are legal and moral, in the tradition of the Founders.
“…violence will give the current state the excuse to impose more restrictions.”
In AMERICA, government’s proper response would be to fix the problems and restore constitutional government and the rule of law. A government that responds as you suggest is tyrannical, and having failed to assert its tyranny without fomenting discontent, reacts with force and violence.
This is not how a republic reacts to a demand for free and fair elections or for investigations into an election that was almost certainly stolen.
The violence excuse was given by the same folks who started the Reichstag’s fire.
BLM Stormed the Capitol
http://classicalvalues.com/2021/01/the-viking-is-blm/
They didn’t need an excuse, and if this wasn’t one (it seems it was at least in part) they can create their own by false-flag without difficulty. So don’t take all the blaming personally. It’s just what they do.
This is but the beginning. When the law is abandoned and the courts hide in fear, citizens will seek to protect their destiny in the face of governmental malfeasance.
Now they demand the death of the Republic.
No.
We’ll see the Election through with the transparency we demand.
A clean loss, we could accept.
But it ain’t so.
Say her name… Ashli Babbit.
It was murder, pure and simple. Unarmed and shot for attempting to go through a broken window. Shot in the BACK!
No doubt in my mind she’d be alive and unharmed if she was a Lefty protesting during one of their many, many protests for their many, many causes.
IIRC, Lefties have forcily occupied government buildings in DC, for one protest or another, many, many times. Including, at one time, Chuck Grassley’s office during the Kavanaugh hearings.
The double standards are, as usual, manifest and obvious. The Swamp’s usual hair splitting will soon ensue. They’ve already closed ranks over this.
It was a Uni-party Assassination, imo…..
From the video, this appears as a clearly unjustified shooting, but it appears she was shoot in the side, not the back. I say this because the security force behind her clearly seemed to be not involved in the shooting, but rather someone just beyond the other side of the barrier who was shooting from a room off the side of the blockaded corridor.
The security force in the corridor behind her do not seem culpable in what appears to be an unjustified use of deadly force incident, rendered emergency medical assistance promptly, did not overreact to a shooting incident but acted coolly and professionally, and they should not be dragged or lumped into the culpable party’s actions.
I do not always get them right, but I like to try, because facts do matter, because they help create and hold proper perspective and hold liable parties accountable.
Professor Jacobson:
I love you like a Brother.
But drop the P.C.
I respectfully disagree with the Professor.
We don’t know yet who really started the violence. Even if it was from Trump supporters, it is wrong to paint this incident, or the movement, in such negative light.
I also have some words to say:
Look at Cuba and Venezuela.
Do you want that? Well, get ready.
Oh, you think it will not, it can not, happen here?
Look at Venezuela.
They said exactly the same.
And when that happens, look back to today and own the fact that you are responsible because you did not do enough to stop it. The election was stolen by open fraud and the system is too corrupt to deal with it. Turning the other cheek only means that the corrupt criminal puppeteers behind Joe Biden will get to stay in power for as long as they please.
I really hope I am wrong, but if this fraud is allowed to stand, we all can kiss good bye to America as we know it. You can kiss good bye to any “American-economy-first, worker-first, capitalism-and-liberty-first” kind of thinking. You will be crushed, and it’s your own fault.
Been there.
Seen that.
Your problem is “respectfully”.
If you can’t have respect for the owner, get the $%^& off his property. This blog belongs to him. You are his guest here; behave accordingly.
For someone who knows so much, you understand so little at times. Cancel culture much?
I fully appreciate that your life both secular and otherwise is bound to “the law”. One by choice and the other by necessity. But human constructs and human nature are flawed and sometimes the remedy comes from outside of “the law”.
Having experienced the fatal shortcomings of the rule of law I care not to worship this construct of man. I’ll stick with the Ten Commandments even though they are presently not “the !aw”. And one need wonder why we have slid into the abyss?
Huh? I have no idea what you mean. Basic human decency is that when you’re a guest on someone’s property you treat them with respect. If you must disagree with your host, you do it respectfully
It ain’t much of an an insurrection if you are a conformist.
There are many, many people, perhaps the ‘low information’ folks, people who don’t follow all the nuances of politics, people who don’t think deeply about the issues, people who only know what they saw on the MSM today. This is what they saw, and from everything I’m reading and hearing, they are indeed offended. That’s going to color their thinking on Mr. Trump and the movement for some time to come.
There is going to be substantial blowback that will be initiated by the Democrats and aided/abetted by the MSM. That will be supported by the people who are offended today.
So if you want the movement to go forward, you’re going to need to understand this and work out strategies to fix it. It’ll take a lot of education, quiet discussion, etc. Don’t expect the GOPe to help, and certainly don’t look to the media.
I don’t have answers for this. But I can see the problem.
The last time we were governed by the unelected we didn’t vote our way out.
When were we ever governed by the unelected? The UK government was elected. And the colonial governments were elected.
And while voting wasn’t sufficient to get out of that arrangement, it was the first step. We voted for our representatives, who voted first to try to negotiate with the UK, and then, when that failed, to declare independence. Fighting was needed not to initiate it but to make it stick.
“The UK government was elected.”
But not by us. The colonies formed their own governments and became self-governing. Over time, the people resented being put upon by a distant government in England they had to control or influence over, or representation in, and which disregarded their desires and interests in favor of its own, and rebelled to sever that linkage.
Once upon this time, this was common knowledge.
The US government isn’t elected by Puerto Ricans, USVIans, American Samoans, Guamese, etc. And even in the states there are many people without the franchise, and there used to be a lot more. Nobody would therefore say that it’s not an elected government.
No the Trump movement did not die. The Republican party died.
Let us begin with the dolt who believes that Trump cost the Republicans Georgia. No. Look at the exit polls. Trump voters stayed home. That is the whole race.
Hell if Purdue joined in the complaint of stealing he might not even have been in a runnoff, since his case would have been raised too.
As for the Trump movement. It didn’t begin with Trump. it was a movement that coalesced around Trump, who happened to
be the person most particularly suited for the movement. He saw what none of you seen, and beat out 14 politicians in 2016 as a rank amateur on a shoe string budget. If not for voter fraud he would have beat a 15th this year.
As for today. I watched some of the resumed proceedings. My thought was Rand Paul would be a great successor to Trump. In 2016 I disliked his pacifist stance, but since then Trump showed me that we can do well without getting in wars and minimizing out footprint in the world. After hearing Paul speak, I am never going to vote for him. Even if it were a choice between him and Hillary.
As for much of the rest of the GOP, no. I had to shut them off. It’s clear that Democrats are not the only ones who think we are “deplorable smelly Wallmart Shoppers”.
To watch what happened, well I wish some of it hadn’t happened. But in perspective, the only person injured was a woman shot be an overreacting policeman. No cars were burned. No buildings destroyed. No monuments torn down. I don’t like being told by these GOP pretend to be adults that I am something they need to scrape off their shoe.
No more GOP for me.
And if the GOPe thinks they can win without Trump voters, well find a place for them to stay that doesn’t have any sharp objects.
Thank you, Rod. Agree with you on Rand Paul; heard his remarks and understood his concern for a precedent the dems would latch onto with a planet-sized vacuum cleaner, but this election was for all the marbles and he didn’t recognize that.
Actually the same old steal tactics were used in the runoff. There was the familiar F-pattern in the totals, around maybe it was 1 am, a big vote dump for both Dem candidates where they went from losing to even or slightly winning.
And there was the video of Perdue losing 40,000 votes in an instant on the CNN totals.
I posted links to these on an earlier thread on the topic.
Today has been brewing for years and finally reached the boiling point. Today was the result of an accumulation of events going back years. I look at events like the shooting of Rep. Scalise, the attacks on Rand Paul, the quotes of Maxine Waters, the harassment of people outside their homes. The lack of prosecutions over the riots and burning of the past summer and fall. I could spend all night adding people and events to the mix.
Add in the very questionable behavior of the states, especially Georgia and Pennsylvania where the duties of the legislative branch were superseded by other branches of government. Voter rolls that are inaccurate, payment for votes, prevention of proper election monitoring.
Nobody knows where it goes from here, I am not going to predict anything right now, the situation is too fluid, One thing I know for sure, the continued opinionization of the news media makes it more and more difficult to acquire an unbiased accounting of events.
I’ll add in another vote, Pelosi openly ripping up a state of the union speech text for the entire world to see
Let off the hook:
Hillary Clinton
James Comey
Rod Rosenstein
James Clapper
Barack Obama
IRS
FBI
DOJ
But we’re supposed to believe the system still works and we should work within it. Our backs are against the wall and the above are responsible for putting us in this position.
Remember all the gun nuts at the NRA saying decades ago: “First they’ll take our guns, and then they’ll come after everything else.” Well, it didn’t work out that way. The usurpers have become so confident of their complete triumph, they’ve revealed their hand before getting our guns. Hopefully, this will prove to have been a fatal mistake.
Lois Lerner and IRS that denied LI’s rightful tax exempt status for years…
Amazon that stole LI’s rightfully earned monies….
Facebook
Twitter
Google
Etc
Etc
The only violence I saw today was the Antifa and the government.
I’m not even slightly concerned about the storming of the Capitol today. It was inevitable because the media refuses to tell the truth, any more than does the leadership of the GOP.
THE DOMINION VOTING MACHINES ARE MADE IN CHINA, PEOPLE! HOW BIG A PROBLEM IS THAT, EXACTLY? HUGE!
State officials in PA, GA, NC, AZ, WI, MI and elsewhere changed election law in violation of the Constitution and the judiciary was complicit by refusing to take up the cases and do their duty. Quite frankly there has been a LOT of treason and some folks need a wake up call, which happened today.
I do appreciate Mr. Jacobson’s website, but he’s a lawyer, and as such isn’t in touch with regular folks. The movement is not over, not by a long shot. Our country’s main enemy, China, is behind a lot of what’s been going on lately, including the election fraud.
I’m in until the bitter end.
Hear.
Hear.
Now this is not the end.
It is not even the beginning of the end.
But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.
Winston Churchill
We Mutually Pledge to Each Other our Lives, our Fortunes and our Sacred Honor
On this date in 1776 the American colonists declared their independence from the tyrant King George III. In the face of execution for treason against Great Britian the founding fathers brought forth the American Republic that has lasted well over two centuries.
https://thelibertyherald.com/2020/07/04/we-mutually-pledge-to-each-other-our-lives-our-fortunes-and-our-sacred-honor/
I have voted in every election no matter how minor since I turned 18 and now I have a strong urge to not vote for the first time in nearly 30 years unless I truly feel the politician understands my concerns. Failure theater and telling me the other party is worse is no longer enough to motivate me to rally to the party with my vote when they barely pay lip service to my concerns and I get nothing more than them trying to look good while losing.
But is it enough to motivate you to fight like our founders?
I want to pose one very serious question :
Just how is this supposed to be fixed ?????
1)The executive branch – bureaucracy is WEAPONIZED against the citizens – not a single bureaucrat federal felon has been arrested or prosecuted
2)The judiciary is so corrupt as to be worthless
3)The commiecrats have no regard for laws, the Constitution and are actively breaking every single form of civility and using violence with total impunity and no consequences what so ever – how many THOUSANDS of antifa/blm felons have been released ? !
4)how are we going to survive another 5 10 15 new supreme court justices, another 2 3 4 5 commiecrat states with their senators and representatives ?
5)If we are supposed to accept 10 or 15 million fraudulent votes now, what is the future ??
Yes today was very bad, but please tell me what are real possibilities to actually solve and stop the DESTRUCTION OF THE REPUBLIC ???
An easy start is to drop the masks and stop “social distancing.”
Try getting into Walmart or your local grocery store that way. I don’t wear a mask any more than absolutely necessary, but it’s necessary to eat.
After the Democrats pass amnesty they won’t need to cheat at the ballot box to win anymore.
BE, Cheating is in the democrat dna. There will still be cheating at the ballot box.
The ONLY way to fix it is give us the honesty and transparancy of the Election we demand.
It is our right, and we shall accept no less.
That won’t happen.
We’re well, well beyond that.
Of course, we won’t accept it.
But, it will be, and has been, forced upon us.
The ONLY way to fix it is give us the honesty and transparency of the Election we demand.
It is our right, and we shall accept no less.
We leave. There is no other answer.
Yes there is. We make them leave. Anything other than that is defeat. Locusts never stop coming.
All that was missing was dragging out pelosi, schumer and mcconnell and hanging them.
This was the Boston Tea Party II.
It was a great day for America.
Ask Churchill might have said: We will fight them in the street: THEIR streets.
Hello . . . FBI. Nah, you’re probably okay because you have seceded and the Old America has no jurisdiction in Fort Kickass or New America™ or whatever you are calling it.
Living ten miles from where George Floyd collapsed … I’d say this was an entirely peaceful protest.
Police precinct hq burned to the ground: 0
Retail stores burned to the ground: 0
Automobiles torched: 0
Number of dead: 1 (our count is at least four, and we have over a hundred buildings that collapsed that contain how many we don’t know bodies)
The bad things are that Antifa doesn’t seem to be being recognized for their contributions, and the Trump people were pushed out before they could clean up.
Of course, there was a hundred years of cleanup to do ….
“But that’s not what happened, instead unreliable commentators picked up on the notion that Mike Pence could just reject electoral votes, something completely contrary to the plain wording of the Constitution.”
I am no lawyer, but I agree with Professor Jacobson. I don’t think Pence could legally reject the electoral college votes.
But if I were Pence I would not have showed up today. The fact that there is no legal way to stop the coup does not mean you have to be a willing participant. What would the Communists do if Pence was a no-show?
Send armed guards to physically drag him in? Yeah, that would look legit!
Impeach him? How many different impeachments do the Communists intend to run simultaneously?
Get someone else to certify the vote? Well, why not? It’s not like the Communists actually believe in the Constitution. And for the sake of esthetics a banana republic-style coup should look like a banana republic-style coup.
Of course, maybe Pence was hunky-dory with the whole sleazy setup………
Pence did the Christian thing and handed us over to the godless Communists. It avoided any immediate violence. Very Christian of him.
All we asked was Honesty and transparency in the Election.
Now, they are killing us.
I don’t know about the movement, but as far as Trump is concerned he is done, at least politically. The powers that be saw to it. He’s already being marginalized and ushered off to history.
The movement may likely go the way of the Tea Party. Unfortunately, Trump unified the two sides against him and the movement. Now, the Left is going to have it their way and I suspect it ain’t goin’ to be pretty.
Sad end to what began with such hope and promise. I rather fear the coming days will make the Obama years look like “a walk in the park.”
You must be kidding. If you’re not, you don’t have your eyes open.
He’s going to get even more powerful.
They’ve demonstrated what they can do to POTUS Trump. Private-citizen Trump will be no match.
His election was a wonder. I have considerable doubts there will be more forthcoming.
One would hope. But from what these criminals have shown us they can legislate President Donald J. Trump out of existence, financially and otherwise.
We will soon be ruled by a solid coalition of despots, liars, thieves and otherwise dirty and corrupt individuals, many of whom just came out of the closet (or the dirty and dank cellar) in the last few days. Like almost all of us here (ignoring the trolls who have just popped up after a 12 year run) I still hold out hope for the Constitution. It’ll be interesting to see if we can restore the Republic in our lifetime.
You are delusional but will fit right in with the direction Jacobson has decided to go with LI
My comment was for Diejust as happy…sometimes unclear with this format
Any day I can follow a direction of Professor Jacobson, I’ll consider myself blessed!
Eh, I think that’s a bit much. Obama took office with a filibuster-proof majority in the senate and a larger margin in the House. He did a lot of damage, but we survived.
Biden won’t be as effective at screwing us over.
USA today has an article with all the “damage” in the Capitol. Take a look … it’s pretty much of a joke.
USA Today “Damage” pics
I would bet that half that trash was there before tonight .. but the only real damage seems to be the window that the idiots broke through. Those morons, of course, will be arrested and jailed in no time, and I have no problem with that.
I have to add, I think the best pic is that one captioned:
“Dust covers the floors after protesters swarmed the U.S. Capitol building.”
I’m still laughing over that. …. dust …
BUT…but…but….
Its radical right wing white supremist dust!!!!!!!
Probably dust spilling out of Cocaine Mitch’s (et al) pockets.
I thought the w
I thought the window was broken when Chuckle shot that innocent little 10 yo girl- Ashii Trayvon – in the back
IN COLD BLOOD…….
Snark.
Why read that rag?
The morons will not be arrested. It would give the scam away.
BLM Stormed the Capitol
http://classicalvalues.com/2021/01/the-viking-is-blm/
My own Family have given far more than four lives t the Republic.
We aren’t alone.
The Trump movement, as we know it…
Started today.
Right on!!
In 2001, President George W Bush (R)was inaugurated into office and served eight years. During his tenure, Conservative Americans endured relentless assault on our character, our beliefs, our traditions; we were mocked, ridiculed, demeaned because we stood by and supported the Republican President. In addition, communist Democrat party voters and media operatives would characterize Bush as a stupid chimp, a Nazi Warmonger for oil etc. etc.
After Bush left office he then proceeded to embrace, esteem, co-mingle with the next President Barack Obama who served served eight years. Barack Obama( communist Democrat) was voted into office by the very same people who spent eight years mocking, ridiculing George W. Bush as stupid chimp Nazi warmonger. When Bush left office he soon became media’s admired friend because he would treat Conservative Americans as backward hicks.
Republican John McCain ran against Barack Obama in 2008. John McCain was notoriously known for his backstabbing, lying, deceitful, dishonorable character. While campaigning for Conservative American votes he would promise to implement Conservative ideals yet when he returned to Washington DC he treated conservative Americans with contempt and arrogance; he would betray every promise he would make. He even threw his own VP choice under the bus, humiliated her and allowed the communist Democrats to cannibalize her. After he lost the election, McCain doubled down on his contempt and disgust for conservative Americans. Even after death, his wife and daughter picked up his deceitfully disgusting mantle.
Then came Republican Mitt Romney in 2012. This Republican Massachusetts governor implemented what was to eventually become the framework for the inhumanely atrocious Obamacare. While campaigning, communist Democrats and their media operatives portrayed Mitt Romney as a woman-hating, dog killing, extreme 1% rich white man.Conservative American voters were forced to vote Mitt Romney despite the fact that he never once reached out to these voters. Today mitt Romney is siding with the communist Democrats, the very same vile creatures who treated him as a woman hating dog killing extreme 1% rich white man. Today, he is Republican leader of a party which consistently displays contempt and disgust for conservative Americans.
In 2016, after a contentious election, Donald J Trump wins presidential primary race. Personally I did not want Trump as primary candidate because I couldn’t trust him. yet in the four years as President he kept all those promises he made on the campaign trail. Trump has never done what Bush, McCain, Romney Republicans could never do; Trump never demeaned, ridiculed or mocked Conservative Americans and he KEPT HIS PROMISES. In fact, he is the first Republican since Ronald Reagan who actually stood by and defended conservative Americans; he saw us. Trump never treated us as The Forgotten Man.
In fact, Trump took the Forgotten Man and lifted their lives. In just four years, Trump was able to increase the wages of the lower 20% working class by 4.6%. In addition, Trump policies lowered unemployment for black Americans to rates not seen in 50 years. Trump was the first president since Reagan who actively protected religious freedoms despite a Cancel culture which overwhelmingly wishes to destroy this precious right. He reduced the oppressive regulatory state which had invigorated a dying private sector, entrepreneurial economy. In 2020 election, Trump gained 13 million more votes than Bush, McCain, Romney; much of this gain was with black and Hispanic Americans. Trumps major accomplishments are numerous.
The Republican party which gave us Bush, nominated McCain and Mitt Romney never accomplished anything in 20 years yet it took trump just four years to accomplish what he promised while he campaigned for president.
Trump was elected into office because the Republican Party was already dead.
Whatever happens going forward, the voters who elected Trump will not be supporting a party which buried itself in deceit, back-stabbing, mockery, greed, condescension and arrogance.
Lastly; after six months of Antifa/BLM unfettered violence against Americas, against memorials, against Federal buildings without ANY condemnation from communist Democrats. After watching screeching hags in pink pussy hats storm senate chamber during Kavanaugh hearings. After Bernie bro shot a Republican representative, after countless communist Democrats imitation tactics,. After communist Democrat Cancel Culture forces Americans out of their jobs and shuts down their businesses I considered events at Capital Hill to be extraordinary patriotic. And long past due.
Anyone who supports the GOP in any way is either a masochist or on the payroll.
Death to the GOP.
‘Republican’ is now a dirty word. A filthy, scummy word of backstabbing, corruption and treason. Just like the words ‘sessions’ and ‘barr’.
G?
Please add Cotton (plant> and Graham (cracker) and … this could take hours.
It is more important to win than to follow the Marquis of Queensbury Rules.
Those claiming it was antifa, nobody in the world knows antifa better than Andy Ngo. He knows these people and can recognize them. And he says they weren’t there.
And what makes you think he would admit it?
Huh? What on earth is that supposed to mean? Are you calling him dishonest?! Are you claiming he may have recognized Antifans and is covering up for them?!
Who cares if they were?
This was a great morale builder and a great precedent.
Don’t tread on us.
A different opinion. With pictures.
BLM Stormed the Capitol
http://classicalvalues.com/2021/01/the-viking-is-blm/
The viking is not BLM. His name is Jack Angeli and he’s on record as a QAnon person.
Surely you can see all the ways that is a ridiculous statement, right? Ranging from the philosophical (you can’t prove a negative) to the practical (Ngo can’t be everywhere at once, and can’t possibly be familiar with everyone associated with antifa).
I don’t think it’s that big a group that there would be so many members that he didn’t recognize.
Then there’s this: “I have seen no evidence that they are able to coordinate a mass infiltration on this scale before, so I’m really skeptical that they would have been able to do it here without any of that information leaking out.” Does anyone here claim to know more than him about what Antifa is capable of?
We didn’t start this.
How many police officers had to be treated for injuries?
I kinda wonder what the good Professor would have said if he were around in 1776
He’ll come around.
A summer of lawlessness was going to get you this breech, that the ones doing it should have be caught showing who they were but no doubt will not so the Democrats Propaganda ministry can say who they are.
The heavy hand of Leftism is coming as the Democrats are going to have a sweep for at least 2 years, such longer if vote fraud isn’t stopped.
But the media and Democrat party, I repeat myself, will be glad of your assessment
Trump, America’s last President if the deep-state prevails.
The left has NEVER had a problem with violence. The democrats have never condemned left wing violence on the hill. They’ve encouraged it and pandered to leftist protesters. It was all well and good when the left was committing arson, looting, destruction of property and assault.. on mere citizens. Once the right decided to stand up on their hind legs and assert themselves, the politicos had a collective hissy fit because the protesters were actually protesting the politicians and we just can’t have that. Burning down DC and looting Foot Locker stores? That’s not a problem. Protesting democrats on capitol hill? It’s the end of the universe as we know it.
The left has an opportunity to learn from this but what they’re going to do is double down and expect 70+ million people to suddenly roll over on their backs and grovel. They’re expecting obedience and submission and THEY are going to get violent when they don’t get it. Hunker down folks, this has been decades in the making and it’s not going away.
Lois Lerner at the IRS
James Comey at the FBI
John Brennan at the CIA
Rod Rosenstein at the DOJ
are merely a small sample of the those who have corrupted our government. Bill Barr, John Huber, John Duram were to come to our rescue, whoops, where did they go?
Well, some might expect us to be ashamed for demanding better from our government, but I’m not among them.
Our businesses have been shut down and destroyed, our livelihoods have been lost, our very lives have been disrupted to the very core, our elections have repeatedly been stolen and finally absurdly abused this year and we’re suppose to do what? Wait for the next election so they can thumb their noses at us once again?
The movement continues.
Professor can you repost your article about the end of BLM and ANTIFA movements…you know after the 1st day or maybe even 200+ days of violence, looting, murder and mayhem …the politicians on the left supporting, cheering and bailing them out…oh maybe you wrote about the end of the Democrat party too cause they openly supported and cheered that violence honor all those corporations ending for the millions they poured into them. Oh yah right…you NEVER made those sort of predictions/hope-wishes about those movements but here you are piling on Trump and his supporters, helping the propaganda machine..revealing yourself to be yet another swamp creature. I have to admit you had me going for quite awhile with all your concern about free speech but in tbe end just another lawyer…the architects and planners of the end of our Republic who can’t see the forrest for the trees, buried in verbiage and comma placements but no longer caring what the laws were actually put in place to do. The Trump movement isn’t over but the pretense of you being one of the good guys is.
The media is trying to discredit the Trump supporters because we dared to assemble in the Capitol. We must indeed all hang together or most assuredly we shall all hang separately. I have no doubt that the Uniparty want’s to punish us for the past four years.
The media doesn’t need to discredit Trump supporters they are doing that themselves just fine.
I feel more like Hong Kong every day. My government answers to wealthy oligarchs maybe even a foreign power because my representatives want their money.
Professor, you and Glenn Reynolds are both professors and work in a Communist environment. You HAVE to denounce this to keep your job. We know it and you know it.
What it won’t do is save you from the boxcar in a few years when the Communists solidify power.
Don’t be too hard on the good prof. This website is respectable. The contributors are respectable. Respectable people are always years behind deplorable people in times like these. There is just something there that stops respectable people from recognizing the true nature of problems of the scale we currently face.
What nonsense. You can’t possibly predict what will happen. This event just happened Let more facts and history unfold. Making sweeping wholesale declarations based on an even that just happened is short sighted and myopic.
Conservatism existed before Trump, it will exist after Trump.
So did whining, crying, feet stomping, and complaining it’s not fair. Still most outgrew that by about age 5
The best opportunity to break out of this ridiculous two-party uniparty system we are in since Perot and it’s all gone.
Well Mr Jacobson. For all your posts about “fighting the good fight” we did learn something about you in this post.
You’re **a lot** like those at Cornell trying to get rid of you.
Next time you whine about what’s going on at Cornell’s campus make sure you have a mirror handy. That way you might be able to see the fine line between you and them. Your veneer is just a different color; scratch the surface and there’s no difference.
Respectfully Professor Jacobson,
You are wrong.
This screams of the same type smear that Nancy Pelosi did after the signing of Obamacare. My guess is the not enough security was deliberate, along with leaving the door open. The Wall Street Journal reports that the Capitol police were “unprepared.”
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/12/breitbarts-big-100k.php
The elections was stolen from Trump, and unfortunately the courts and other parts of our system allowed it. There was no day in court, because the courts avoided looking into it, along with other parts of the establishment including the DOJ, FBI, GOP State Legislation, and GOP in Congress. I can’t believe they allowed the continued lack of transparency to happen. It is a huge indictment of our system. I guess it was more important to get rid of that turbulent Trump.
There was no transparency. Seems the same thing happened with the GA Senate Election. There is no trust in the elections. There is not reason for all the hiding the Democrats, and some GOP Lackeys, have been doing, unless there was fraud. There is too much smoke, for there not to be a fire.
I am shocked at censorship and the media, big tech and their allies are doing. Locking Real Donald Trumps Twitter account for 12 hours. Wow. Facebook making sure no pictures of the rally are available – Unbelievable. Youtube after I played the Tucker Video, autoplaying a MSNBC Hit Piece on the Trump / Raffensperger call.
I respectfully disagree.
You’d have to be a fool of epic proportions to buy into the narrative this was Trump and his supporters.
Statement from ex-Senator Loeffler:
“When I arrived in Washington this morning, I fully intended to object to the certification of the electoral votes. However, the events that have transpired today have forced me to reconsider and I cannot now, in good conscience, object.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1346997386762137602
Yep – you are a true tower of Jello ex-Senator!
Professor Jacobson… Much of what happened was scripted by the Left to take advantage of human nature. This was both Reichstag moment and the false flag Nazi attack in Polish uniforms that triggered invasion. you are caught up in the intended visuals. It really makes no difference as The Party got what it wanted. Please remember your time in Russia.
The true outcome is that the legal system …The vaunted “rule of law” was fatally inadequate to the task. The extra-legal…The criminal enterprise was expertly planned to take this into account. It must be a shock to see that all the mythos of law and order is just that…a myth.
There will always be a job for lawyers…even in tyrannical states. Welcome back to the USSR…but with the latest flat screen TV and cell phone from our Chinese masters.for
Year Zero of the dictatorship of the proletariat starts now.
No offense, but based on your comment, it doesn’t appear that you know what that phrase actually means, or who the “proletariat” are.
Professor J. can write his take. He’s earned it. I’m not sure I see the same result from yesterday, but we’re all just speculating.
If you’re accusing him of being anti-Trump you’re too emotional or just full of crap.
You have described me.. emotional and full of crap. I admit it. I am also bewildered.
But.. I still believe Sidney Powell,,, and she said this on Parler:
Seeing the Congressmen and Senators cratering instantly in the face of the breach of the Capitol building tells me this was planned. These elected shills have done nothing but watch America burn from lawless Antifa and BLM.
Their claims of protecting democracy by certifying a fraudulent illegal election that is a coup and communist takeover of this country is a lie
A sentiment with which I am in complete agreement. Unfortunately, too many here (especially the gadflies) seem to think that Powell, one of the premier legal minds in the country, is some kind of nut.
She had a short back and forth with me on another website a while back. She took the time and effort, and I have always respected her.
It is called a “beard.” This is the Professor’s
Fuck me, didnt actually take much to get the squishes to change sides did it. One riot was all it needed and haven’t so called conservatives fallen over themselves to show the world how righteous they are.
William, you are no different. Nothing more than a fair weather supporter.
You will deserve EVERYTHING a Democrat Presidency will bring America. For people like you who haven’t got a back bone I have no sympathy what so ever. However its not fair for the rest of us that we will now suffer the consequences of a Chinese Democrat Presidency.
I’m finding myself strangely indifferent to the whole situation. I think I’ve reached some sort of saturation point. Perhaps it’s time to put more thought and effort towards that which I can actually affect and control, and give more time and attention to the people I love.
It’s probably too late to save the Republic, but patriots should get busy outlawing mail-in ballots, ballot harvesting, requiring Voter ID, outlawing Dominion voting machines and other internet-connected machines, removing Soros-funded AGs and Secretaries of State, and deleting Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.
TY snopercod… great perspective.
We could count the patriots in legislative bodies on one hand. What you suggested is absolutely imperative, but find the bodies to enact those measures.
In other words, you should all become like Texas. Too late. When Biden or Harris (whichever the Chinese allow to remain in office) sign the next amnesty, Texas will no longer be able to resist the new federal election laws requiring mail-in voting and Dominion voting machines, along with an absolute prohibition on requiring voter ID.
Yep. We should outlaw all those.
What’s the best way to do that?
I know — we could HOLD A VOTE.
Bwa ha ha ha ha!
Professor Jacobson wrote, “A woman being shot dead by police, while not inevitable, was a consequence.”
A few days ago I mentioned that, at an online Legal Insurrection presentation during the Antifa/BLM fascist riots, the panel laughed at my suggestion that looters should be shot. It was as if I were suggesting something outlandish, unthinkable.
Now, when when patriots, after breaking in are acting peaceably–not burning, destroying or looting, even though they did break in– a lethal shooting is considered a consequence to be expected?
I think not — and the shooter should be tried and convicted for the murder that that shooting plainly was. But double standards being what they are, we will likely not be informed of the shooter’s identity except in the unlikely event the shooter was a protester.
But once that process had run out, and not a single judge, not even Trump appointed judges, upheld any challenges, it was time to move onto more productive action.
What utter BS. All the court challenges were based on emergency appeals. None of them looked at the evidence, but rather said the proposed solution was impossible or they just plain wimped out with a “standing” claim. This election showed that the courts are f-ing useless.
Not true, for example the Brann judgement. You really haven’t been paying attention.
Oh do fuck off mark. None of the dismissals were on the basis of the evidence. The evidence of voter fraud was never given the chance to be presented and every challenge was dismissed because of standing or some other fucking bullshit.
I really do hope you get everything you deserve under a Chinese Democrat Presidency. You will truly deserve the coming talebanisation of everything in America.
It remains one of my most fervent wishes that these trolls survive long enough to enjoy life under their new regime. Imagine their surprise when the inevitable happens and they are the first ones into the boxcars. After all, the regime doesn’t need to worry about us. We’re the people who obey the law, whether we like it or not. It’s the lawbreakers and revolutionaries whom they want to gas first.
No,the Trump movement didn’t end today just like Trump himself didn’t start it. What ended today is the republican party. I and, from what I gather, many others are absolutely done with republicans after their show of cowardice today.
States Need to Investigate Election Irregularities, Reassert Authority Over Elections: Sen. Johnson
Professor, I suspect that yesterday will be a defining moment for many things. I’m not going to get out in front of my skies and try to predict how it will affect Trump. But, how about a defining, or re-defining, moment for Legal Insurrection? The name of your blog points the way.
We have now seen that what happens at the ballot box doesn’t matter. From a structural point of view, it doesn’t matter because our method of conducting elections is broken. From a practical point of view, it doesn’t matter because once we elect people (especially to the Senate) they cease to be responsive to the electorate and instead respond to lobbyists or their party leadership. Both points are why you had Republicans stay home rather than vote in the Georgia special election. All of this points to a need to focus our efforts elsewhere—at structural reform. I suggest a Legal Insurrection by amending the U.S. Constitution through the Article V convention process.
It requires 34 state legislatures to vote to hold an Article V convention to amend the U.S. Constitution. It then requires 38 state legislatures or approval by conventions in 38 states (the method to be specified by Congress) to approve an amendment. Republicans now control 30 state legislatures. Democrats control 18. Two legislatures are split between the parties. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Republican control of state legislatures increased in the 2022 elections but the real point is to adopt reforms that we know have broad support in the electorate, even if the elected representatives don’t support them.
Which brings me to the title of your post. Whether the Trump Movement as we know it ended or not yesterday, I submit that if we are going to bring about structural reform, it would be healthier if a movement for structural reform proceeded without President Trump at the front. We know that there is a significant portion of the electorate that agrees with many of President Trump’s truly incredible accomplishments but will not support him because they don’t like his tweets or have come to believe various false narratives about him. (After the election I pointed out a list of President Trump’s accomplishments to a liberal for whom I have a great deal of respect and asked her to identify which ones of those accomplishments were contrary to the Democratic Party’s principles from 10 years ago and the response I got was, “I couldn’t bring myself to vote for him because I believe he is a racist.”) The change I think we all want cannot happen with a galvanizing figure leading the charge. It just can’t.
One key to an Article V convention is to limit the scope of it. There has to be a narrow focus so that everyone across the country is voting on the same thing and so that it cannot be hijacked by the powers that be. But, that doesn’t mean that there cannot be a series of Article V conventions held at the same time. Thus, I propose separate Article V conventions to adopt the following amendments:
Amendment 28: No person shall be eligible to vote for any office set forth in Article I or II of this Constitution without presenting proof of citizenship and photographic identification when registering to vote; nor shall any person be eligible to cast a vote for any such office without presenting photographic identification at the time the vote is cast.
Amendment 29: The time for choosing presidential electors and the time for choosing Senators and Representatives shall be on the first Tuesday of the eleventh month of every even year. No state may allow votes to be cast for these offices more than ten days before the First Tuesday of the month of every even year.
Amendment 30: The Seventeenth Amendment is repealed. [This is the amendment that provided for direct elections of Senators rather than allowing the state legislatures to choose the Senators.]
Amendment 31: An amendment to this Constitution that is proposed by Congress must be ratified by the required number of states or state conventions within 10 years of the date that the proposed amendment is approved by both houses of Congress.
Amendment 32: The Courts established in and under Article III shall have exclusive jurisdiction over any challenge to an election for any office set forth in Article I or II of this Constitution. A candidate in such election shall always have standing to be a party in such a challenge. Any state shall have standing to be a party to a challenge to an election for the choosing of the electors for a president.
Amendment 33: No more than nine justices may serve on the Supreme Court at any one time. With the exception of justices of the Supreme Court serving at the time this amendment is ratified, no justice of the Supreme Court may serve as a justice after attaining the age of 80.
Amendment 34: The power to grant reprieves and pardons may not be exercised on or after the first Tuesday of the eleventh month of a year when the president is chosen and the end of the then sitting president’s term as established in the Twentieth amendment to this Constitution.
Amendment 35: No state may be admitted by Congress to the Union without the consent of the legislatures of a majority of the states.
I believe most, if not all, of the above amendments would have significant bipartisan support such that they could overcome the hurdles to being proposed and ratified. And if even only half of them passed, then we would truly have accomplished a Legal Insurrection.
I love how the front page has all these articles condemning the protest in DC yesterday and right in the middle is an article condemning the crackdown of protests in Hong Kong. They’re good there, but not here.
much finger pointing today–what many of us believed couldn’t happen has happened–important to consider what’s going to happen next–our currency is next(witness the dollar’s freefall over the last 2 quarters) and the dem’s/leftist’s propensity for ” free shit ” will certainly mean the requisite printing–then the de-clawing of our military(US armed forces are and have been for decades the bulwark against adventurism throughout the world)–as history has shown, fascists usually require an armed conflict to stay in power
wring your hands if you want to–more important to prepare, both for your own safety and that of your loved ones
De-clawing of the military? Did you read the recent article here about the de-fanging of the West Point honor code? The military is already lost.
Trump movement? There was never any Trump movement. Trump is a symbol. He is a symbol of thee conflict between the classes. On the one hand you have the Establishment, which controls most of the government in this country, and the people, mostly middle class. Over the years, the middle class has seen their quality of life systematically reduced. Their jobs shipped out of the country. Their mobility prospects, within society, reduced. They have seen the government coddle criminals at the expense of the middle class. They have seen sattacked as being virulent racists, without evidence to support that claim. They have seen their elected officials promise to address their concerns and then ignore them. As the polls ignored their voices, they sent messages, largely via the ballot box. Initially, the polls ignored them. Then, in the last four years, the Establishment, including the government, actively began to attack them. The populace has played by the rules, as agreed to in our founding compact. And they have gotten hosed. The only person in authority who has stood up for the middle class has been Trump. THE ONLY ONE.
Insightful people have been warning, throughout the last four years, that the populace is being forced into the position of having to go outside the established means of communication in order to get the attention of their elected politicians and non-elected government officials, who essentially work for THEM. People have warned that the point of insurrection was rapidly approaching, if the Establishment did not back off its attacks on the common man. No one in a position of authority listened. After all, these were just the deplorables. They would accept the scraps that the Establishment threw them and slink back to their doublewides and red their Bibles. They were law abiding and could be safely pushed around. Well, the populace has just sent another message. No looting. No arson. No real vandalism. No attacks on innocent citizens. They just tried to enter the People’s House to lodge their complaints over the deaf ear turned to them by their governments. They made a statement. And a rather subdued one at that. They just reminded the world that the government works for them, not an elite Establishment. And, if the Establishment wants to change the agreed upon rules of society, the populace will play by the same rules.
This is not the end of the insurrection. It is only the beginning. Unless the powers-that-be wake up and start listening to the populace, not Establishment special interests. Welcome to the revolution.
I believe there are plans for a Trump assassination… and nobody has his back except his family. I am sick over this election. I can’t believe that Professor Jacobson posted the mantra about the court cases finding no evidence of fraud. Where are people to turn? It’s like an innocent man who is convicted has to state, “I will respect the verdict of the jury, even though I am innocent. All of my appeals have been exhausted. Therefore, don’t bother fighting for me.”
Oh my gosh.
I don’t mean violence.
I wrote this, below, to some friends yesterday …..I completely disagree with the Professor’s take as regards to the VP Pence’s plenary authority under the 12th Amendment …and although It seems to be academic now, I see it to be part an parcel of how our legal system , which was designed to be the people’s advocate, now appears (and perception is 9/10th’s of reality) to have been almost completely usurped by the establishment (dare I use the analogy of Tories and King Charles)and, with a particular emphasis on the judges ….which is primarily why the executive branch was given power as a check on the other two branches as it was designed to be relatively nimble in order to be able to act when the judicial branch became entangled by disputes it feels it more politic and self preserving to evade hearing ….The Executive Branch has been largely neutered over the last century ….which has naturally, but unconstitutionally, in my view, elevated the judiciary to a superior position to the other two branches …not only at the federal level but at the state and local level too …this is largely why the allegations of fraud were not properly addressed because the courts summarily rejected them ….like I was hoping Pence would have done to the corrupt certificates ….He was ‘tribunal for a day’ and opted to decline the privilege …as I say below, I’m not sure he had the authority to do so …
HERE IS THE OBSERVATION I MADE :
This development (Pence, in a letter, formally , declining the plenary powers) despite disappointing also intrigues me ….Here’s an interesting thought experiment ……
I went and found the actual text (on his Twitter account) of the Pence memorandum (https://mobile.twitter.com/Mike_Pence/status/1346879811151605762/photo/2 ) documenting in legalize, his decision on what his powers are as it relates to the 12th Amendment and the ECA’87 Act …..In fact, I found scanned copies of the actual document which , you’ll find, is important to the point I’m about to make .
Recall, recently, Congressman Gohmert attempted to sue the Vice President to get a ruling from the court that would have clarified the, here-to-fore, unexplored aspect of constitutional roles and responsibilities as they specifically pertain to the President of the Senate’s constitutional duties, as per the 12th Amendment on ‘Counting Day’ .
Take note of the form and style (at the bottom) of the content of the two page letter ….It’s on the Office of The Vice President’s stationary (letterhead) and goes through some fairly extensive analysis of his decision, as if he was allowing for it to be challenged or second guessed.
Right off the bat I’ll say that, as a citizen, Not only do I think that the VP’s conclusion is wrong ; but I also believe that it endangers my right to a crucial FEDERAL ‘check’, via the office of the President of the Senate, over an otherwise loosely supervised election process conducted by state legislatures with parochial interests which may conflict with mine and/or that of the rest of the nation. Not only that but the founding fathers promised me that they Guaranteed that , along with my eternal vigilance, my country would always remain a Republic.
Additionally, I believe that the Vice President ALSO abrogated his responsibility to the office of the President for much the same reason. He can’t just unilaterally decide that HIS reading of the constitution is the correct one , especially in an area with so little precedent and not expect to be called out on it.
If he , however, feels so inclined to properly explains his reasoning in such a way that if someone felt injured by the act and/or disagreed with him ; but could then, easily (and quickly) get a court to hear and assist in settling the matter, that might be deemed mitigating, which, in my view, would seem to be the point of the letter …not to avoid a lawsuit, but to better advantage one.
I understand why the court(s) denied Congressman Gohmert standing, it was premature and presumed, before the fact, how the Vice President would act ….I’m also sensitive to the situation the VP , by virtue of his office, has been placed in. But I DO NOT think he should be able to unilaterally decide that he doesn’t have the sort of power the constitution seems to have delegated to him just because he’s uncomfortable exercising it …That’s a dereliction of his duty, in my view,…which , again, this document could be construed as being an erstwhile stab at trying to mitigate. As I said, he is likely quite anguished over this decision.
So, in a way, by laying out his thinking so thoroughly, and formally , he may have been giving us an opening to then have the SCOTUS weigh in with its thoughts on this duty which he plainly (and unfortunately) was intent on steering clear of.
The Vice President is FULLY aware of the evidence of the alleged fraud ….he has been shown it all…but his counsel is that , alone, he doesn’t have the power to do anything about it because he buys into the notion that the ECA’87 ‘s allows the Legislative Branch to weigh in and assume the responsibility for evaluating the evidence. In my view, there is no other way to look at this as anything other than a cop out.
I totally agree with Congressman Louie Gohmert’s intentions …he was just, understandably, premature ….It would serve the country much better to have one person, a member of the Executive Branch, after this lengthy process, decide on the authenticity of the certifications and then Count the Votes. ‘Too many cooks in the kitchen’ otherwise ….If the founders had meant for the 12th Amendment to establish a role for the Legislature, other than a ceremonial one , they would have delineated as such. This aspect of the constitution was what the 12th Amendment was meant to clarify ….and yet the founders still left this specific duty to the Executive Branch officer -the Vice President. There were no changes or further clarifications.
(Did Pence knowingly leave a door open for President Trump? – We shall see!!)
Your thoughts?
Jim
The overall goal is to prevent the creation of strong male Christian role models. Once you realize the goal, you understand better….
How long was Trump a Democrat?
What’s the difference between lefties invading the Capital like Code Pink, BLM, Antifa, etc. to protest whatever, and Trump supporters mixed with Antifa instigators invading the Capital to protest election cheating? The media deamonization of protesters and the immediate surrender of establishment Republicans.
Prof, I think you’re making the wrong call here. One mistake you are making is to fall for, completely, the Narrative. How many people were actually involved in anything violent?
And don’t forget a woman was murdered. You think if she was a #BLM “protestor” (they did start fires in DC), the murderer cop would get off scot free?
You may be a bit too genteel for what’s coming. You’re a lawyer. Yet you can’t see how corrupt the judiciary has become. The Constitution is dead. Let me give you an example. DACA is unconstitutional. Yet the Supreme Court has upheld it. What do you call that?
People were on the streets in DC because they understand that virtually every single institution in this once great land of ours is corrupt. And you want us to go back to them hat in hand. Are you kidding?
And you’re at Cornell. You don’t seem to understand that 70% of the students you teach want your head on a pike and wouldn’t think twice about doing it.
If the goal of a crowd of that size truly wanted to storm the Bastille, they could have overwhelmed the Capitol. Easily. The numbers were there and the Capitol Police were not prepared.
Gotta love the photos of the Capitol police letting them in with no objection.
There was also an always locked door they amazingly entered without breaking it down
I don’t care what faith you are, get on your knees and pray for guidance. It’s right in front of of us, you just need to see it..
Here’s Ronald Reagan’s comment on George Washington’s prayer before the Battle of Valley Forge:
“I said before that the most sublime picture in American history is of George Washington on his knees in the snow at Valley Forge. That image personifies a people who know that it’s not enough to depend on our own courage and goodness. We must also seek help from God our father and preserver.”
– President Ronald Reagan, 1982
We are at war, folks. We either surrender and be enslaved, or we go our own way.
Trump is the effect, not the cause. The republican party has no base anymore; have fun with the GOPe.
Sidney Powell knew what happened and tried to explain the depth of fraud. She was called all sorts of names. She is not Orly Taitz. She had a respectable career. She took on the Flynn case when she saw the level of treacherousness. I am still reeling from all of this.
Same with Lin Wood.
This is the SOP of the psychopath Communist-Facist-Democrats-Uni-Party Globalists.
Et tu, Professor? Et tu…..
The gathering in DC of masses of DJT supporters wasn’t unexpected. That was telegraphed for weeks.
Why did they come? Anger and frustration with a system that ignores them; until they are needed for military service in some neocon inspired war. A system that doesn’t take them or their beliefs, secular or religious seriously.
These folks were, by and large representative of the rest of the MAGA movement. A neo Jacksonian political movement. The overwhelming majority of attendees behaved peacefully.
Some individuals did enter the Capital Buildings. These individuals, as yet, have not been ID as DJT supporters. I am certainly not attempting to state that they were not, however given the size of the crowd it would be easy for a group with a different ideology to infiltrate the crowd and gin up passions to go break into the Capital Buildings.
Why were the folks even in DC? Better yet, why did they feel that they needed to come from across the country to our National Capital? Simple, the November elections were at.best shady and error ridden. At worst votes were changed, ballots discarded, ballots manufactured, election laws changed, circumvented and ignored.
Unfortunately our systems for challenging election results isn’t set up to accommodate mass mail in voting. We do a very good job with in person voting due to control mechanisms that can’t be ignored without audit. Mail in balloting sidesteps most of these mechanisms. Further, it negates the ability to audit the chain of evidence back to the voter due to destruction of outside envelopes.
Those marching and demonstrating yesterday in DC were peacefully assembled to petition their government. Some small number, who may or may not have been infiltrators, broke into the Capital Buildings.
Unfortunately that act has overshadowed the still unanswered questions regarding the integrity of the November election. Yes, many cases were filed and dismissed, but how much discovery was allowed to occur? How much latitude was allowed to challenge the count when anecdotal and statistical evidence clearly warranted a deeper dive? Practically zero.
In sum, the folks believe that the election was stolen. They feel like they were denied their day in court. They felt betrayed by the State Legislatures of the 6 disputed States. They, erroneously, hoped/ believed that VP Pence could somehow change the election.
So a crowd of folks which feels betrayed, disappointed and denied any voice much less redress or legal option shows up to DC. A couple windows and glass doors get busted open.
This isn’t the end of the world. It wasn’t when it happened in Louisville or Kenosha or Portland or Seattle or Atlanta or St Louis ECT. Property is property. Vandalism is vandalism no matter where it occurs nor who the victims are.
Professor Jacobson, please don’t allow yourself to be spun by the location. We shouldn’t allow ourselves to be put on the defensive because of the location nor because of the ‘victims’; ruling class. Members of Congress are no more important than the small business owner who’s store was broken into, looted and burned this summer.
For anyone to suggest otherwise either explicitly or implicitly is misguided and frankly dangerous. We are all equal before the law, neither deserving greater privilege nor deserving lesser treatment.
Hear.
Hear.
I’ve thought it over all day and decided to cancel my automatic Paypal payment to WAJ Media LLC. As Ayn Rand wrote: “It’s moral treason to support those who would destroy you.” So I guess that makes me part of the Cancel Culture?
Impeachment? With 12 days to go? Get real. 25th Amendment removal by cabinet officers? How many of them resigned today and how many are left to make such a call?
And on what basis? Today’s NYT headline reads “Trump Incites Riot”.
Not “Mostly Peaceful Protest at US Capitol”. Bullshit. Trump didn’t incite a riot any more than he claimed that injecting bleach would cure COVID or that there were good people on both sides in Charlottesville.
There were over a million Trump supporters there, maybe 50,000-100,000 on the capitol grounds. I was one of them. I never got off the lawns. The police took down the barricades. We didn’t “storm” the capitol. Seems the deep state planted disguised Antifa in the crowd for a False Flag operation. Why did I go? Trump asked me to be there and I wanted to show support for him. The only violence was caused by the police: shooting an unarmed woman and pushing an unarmed man off a balcony.
I still support Trump. If he calls out the militia, I’ll be there.
My political beliefs haven’t evaporated. Don’t be too negative, Professor. Wait and watch a little longer.
Did you personally see/vid police removing barricades? Did you take any vid while there? Talk to people on the ground? What was your sense of the crowd?
You haven’t seen those videos? They are out there. Do your own research!
I’ve seen then. Pretty darned obvious the Cap Hill PD was in on this scam!
What an unpleasant person you seem. Of course I have seen videos, but I haven’t seen any from him. You may not have noticed, but it’s good to get as much information as you can when you do your own research and that includes seeking as-yet-unpublished materials. I don’t just look at one video or a few that fly around as “viral” in my corner of the internet, I like to be more thorough, but then, that is my training and my job.
Elijah Schaffer posted video of people swarming up the Capitol steps, screaming some kind of chant, pushing down barricades, jumping and assaulting police. The behavior is aggressive, highly focused, vicious, scary. Sorry, Fuzzy, those aren’t MAGA supporters!
I heard the President spokefor an hour. Someone commented in the thread following the article that POTUS was still speaking at the same time this group started rushing the Capitol steps. Interesting timing, I’d say.
Scroll down for Elijah’s video, then keep scrolling past the trashy ads to reach the comments.
https://100percentfedup.com/did-antifa-infiltrate-the-mob-of-protesters-who-stormed-the-capitol-building-video/#!/back
Love the Akhenaten reference.
Look, I’ll give Prof J. the benefit of the doubt, and even meet him part of the way. Fairly or not, and depending upon the true facts of what happened, PDJT may not be able to run again. The story is the same as always…… the people are still there waiting to follow a true conservative leader.
But the deafening drumbeat of popular political culture is so strong…. it even distracted our great man here at LI. The left, the media, and the pearl-clutching establishment right have tarred and feathered us fairly successfully. I am heart-broken for my cause and for my country. Prof. J has likely reflected, like many of us have needed to, and will hopefully come with some piss-n-vinegar!!
Trump had his chances, but he has blown it now. He could have won a civil war if he had declared martial law. Now he will be lucky to finish his term. He was the best President ever but he is just not very smart. He took bad advice and hired bad people. Jeff Sessions, Chris Wray, Gina Haspel and Bill Barr, swamp dwellers all. He said he was going to hire the best people but in that aspect he failed miserably. The great example of the Peter Principal “a man will rise to his level of incompetence”
Provide your list of people Trump should have appointed that could get approved by the senate.
Otherwise you’re just BSing.
I have commented on Beltway culture before, it is full of shady people, grifters, lots of scum. They are smooth talkers, that is their stock and trade.
Is it reasonable to expect Trump to be able to spot all of them? He did make progress, and he has flushed out many. What he accomplished in the face of the swamp is impressive.
Professor, I think that you are being a bit too negative, I do not believe that most, probably any, of the violence was our people.
I think that the trouble was started by the same people who have done the same all over America.
Welp, I guess this is adios, pal.
What a stunningly bad, and frankly ahistorical take.
Jan 6th was unique? I’m old enough to remember the streets of DC near the capitol on fire last year. I’m old enough to remember the Senate office spaces being occupied by anti-Kavanaugh protesters. Who can forget Code Pink protesters routinely interrupting floor votes and congressional hearings year after year.
This sort of equivocating a low-intensity protest to the nationwide violence, murder, looting, billions in property destruction, and general domestic terrorism promoted and enabled by Democrat politicians from the local to federal levels is utterly unbecoming a serious thinker.
The Trump movement is hardly dead based off of this nothingburger. Stop clutching your pearls and get back to mature analysis.
I bet you fell the old “banana as the weapon of choice” in the fake hold-up for Evidence class, eh, Professor?
(Every Evidence professor in the world uses a “fake stick-up” in his/her class to show the unreliability of eyewitnesses.
Usually the “perp” enters the classroom at an unsuspecting time, brandishing a banana as a weapon and wearing some bright, outlandish face covering!)