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Georgia Headed to Manual Recount

Georgia Headed to Manual Recount

“With the margin being so close, it will require a full, by-hand recount in each county. This will help build confidence. It will be an audit, a recount and a recanvass all at once. It will be a heavy lift but we will work with the counties to get this done in time for our state certification.”

Wednesday, Georgia‘s Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger, announced the state would conduct a hand recount. Currently, Joe Biden currently leads state-wide by around 14,000 votes.

From Fox News:

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Wednesday announced that election officials will conduct a manual recount of all presidential ballots as President-elect Joe Biden leads in the state by just over 14,000 votes out of nearly 5 million counted.


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buckeyeminuteman | November 11, 2020 at 3:15 pm

Why in the hell does every city and state official now make a speech with a sign language interpreter at their side? I never used to see this. No federal officials do this. Don’t deaf people have closed captioning on their TVs?

    If they have a live audience, a deaf person in it might benefit from the ASL interpreter. If it’s being broadcast, then it’s purely for Woke Signaling.

    Groundhog Day in reply to buckeyeminuteman. | November 11, 2020 at 4:17 pm

    This trend started in New Zealand after the Christchurch earthquake in 2011 – where they had a nice looking guy as ASL interpreter, with an international audience watching the news. It took some time to spread around Australia, US, CA – but now pretty much every ‘Five Eye State’ is doing it – but not only at emergencies. Next thing will be that CNN has an ASL interpreter telling his peeps what kind of dog Biden might take with him into the White House…

      nordic_prince in reply to Groundhog Day. | November 11, 2020 at 4:27 pm

      Forget about the dog, we need to know the really important stuff – like what flavor milkshake Beijing Biden is drooling into these days.

    My late wife was profoundly deaf. We met and married in the days just before closed captioning was mandated in all TVs 13 inches and larger (~93, I think). Before that, captioning required a set top box and relatively little programming was caption. With the requirement to add CC decoding to all TVs, more and more programming ended up getting captioned.

    Anyway, not all live events like that will end up being captioned, depending on where the video is going. Live TV has people like court stenographers that generate the captions in real time (hence the misspellings and wrong words at times, depends on their dictionary). Having a live interpreter, especially if they’re on camera the whole time, enables deaf people to understand.

    Deaf people have real difficulties integrating into a hearing world. Most end up relegated to living in the “deaf world”. My wife was fortunate because she was taught as a child to speak and read lips, which enabled her to mainstream in the hearing world but it was difficult for her at times.

    Providing interpreters is not virtue signalling.

I know shamefully little about this. How exactly are the ballots counted and recorded? Is there anything (other than personal honor) to stop a vote counter from simply lying?

    Ironclaw in reply to Dathurtz. | November 11, 2020 at 3:33 pm

    If it’s done correctly, nobody will be counting alone and you will have poll watchers from both sides to challenge anything they find sketchy.

    Milhouse in reply to Dathurtz. | November 11, 2020 at 7:03 pm

    The one time I was involved one poll worker was handling the ballots, with about four watchers standing over his shoulder, one from each candidate. He slowly turned over each ballot, announcing who it was for, and if none of us objected he put it in the pile for that candidate. If anything didn’t look right, the watcher for the candidate it was against would challenge it and it would get sorted out.

      Dathurtz in reply to Milhouse. | November 11, 2020 at 8:05 pm

      So, it depends on a person counting while representatives eagle-eye the ballots. How is the reporting/count verified? There seems to have been a lot of “human reporting error.”

    Are they checking signatures, postmarks, and citizenship in the Georgia re-count? If not, they are just re-counting illegal votes with legal votes. If systemic voting fraud is proven, such as dead people voting, the remedy should be an in-person re-vote on January 5 of the top two candidates.

If they don’t have a way of separating the questionable votes after “water leak” , and I believe Ga is a state with that vote flipping machine, don’t know how this will help!!!

So much has happened.
And, any ballot that got out of it’s envelope is likely water under the bridge.

Here is a link that identifies exactly how many Georgia votes were electronically switched from Trump to Biden and exactly how many were electronically deleted from the system.

Shows data for every state using the Dominion voting system.

    CommoChief in reply to MattMusson. | November 11, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    I wouldn’t hang my hat on that. Not saying it isn’t possible but that would be too easy to check v physical ballots.

    I would lean towards the old standby of ineligible voters; dead or moved. Coupled with late election day arrival of ‘Biden only’ ballots during the ‘pause’ in counting. These suggest that they were manufactured.

    Though some counties did pause some of the ATL area precincts said they would pause but continued the count in the absence of election observers who had departed because they were lied to.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to MattMusson. | November 11, 2020 at 4:17 pm

    Thanks for the link, it is damning. Now, lets beat the crap out of those behind this fraud, there needs to be arrests and jail time.

There were a massive number of Biden-only votes in Georgia, over 95,000, compared to less than 1,000 for Trump. When compared to other ballots, it is statistically so improbable that it is almost certainly the result of massive fraud.

The Georgia audit should be very, very interesting.

It would be interesting to understand how many ballots were cast for Biden only (as in no other boxes were ticked) and how many were for Trump in the same way?

Surely the Democrat fraudsters can’t have been this stupid????

Secondly, how do you prove such a ballot is fraudulent??

    CommoChief in reply to mailman. | November 11, 2020 at 4:12 pm

    Prove fraudulent?

    1. When dated?
    2. When sent?
    3. When received?
    4. When counted/time?
    5. With a batch of similar ballots; President only race voted, some huge disparity in Candidate choice v other ballots for that precinct?
    6. Was it’s tabulation observed by poll watchers?
    7. Was the ink used or handwriting similar/same across multiple ballots in that batch?
    8. Same address?
    9. Same witness?

    Answer those and you have a pattern. Basis for discovery.

Well it’s a start, hopefully if they are going that extra mile they will have some ways to fight fraud and maybe that tabulation scam.

Cae over to LI for my afternoon reading and got a popup…
“Deceptive website warning”

What is wrong with them?

    mailman in reply to scooterjay. | November 11, 2020 at 5:36 pm

    Who was that warning from scooter? I’ve never received that warning before??

      scooterjay in reply to mailman. | November 11, 2020 at 7:44 pm

      I don’t know. I’m at work and on their WiFi network, and I visit via Google Chrome.
      There was no navigation. I keep Chrome directed to and use plain old google if I need to look something up on the web.
      It might be my employer, a huge entity that has a global footprint in the online sales arena, founded on the west coast and fronted by a fella named Bezos

If the same people will be counting as were last time, this is a waste of time

    OleDirtyBarrister in reply to MarkS. | November 11, 2020 at 7:09 pm

    The observers need to be there and have the ability to protest ballots. There also needs to be an audit.

OleDirtyBarrister | November 11, 2020 at 6:58 pm

Citizens in GA filed a federal civil action against the GA Sec. of State and others prior to the election regarding the use of the existing hardware and Dominion software system. They submitted a declaration of an expert that observed Fulton County’s use of the system during primaries and he stated his observations and opinions. It is a lengthy document and full of information that will make your head hurt.

Warning. Georgia has recently made serious changes to the election laws that make fraud much easier, and harder to catch.

    Hi Milhouse;
    It is my theory that every opened mail-in ballot is safely in the mix.
    What are your thoughts?

      Milhouse in reply to snowshooze. | November 11, 2020 at 8:07 pm

      Yes, that seems obvious. The envelopes can still be gone through and fraud found, but then the question becomes what is the remedy.

        It seemed obvious to me, but you are far more familliar with practice.
        Them opened envelopes aren’t going to do much good, if they still have them.

          CommoChief in reply to snowshooze. | November 12, 2020 at 10:28 am


          ‘ envelopes won’t do much good, if they still have them’.

          They better have the envelope. Required to retain them big no no to toss them.

          The envelopes have a trove of information:
          1. Address – ‘how come 47 voters are listed as residing at a single address?’ Etc
          2. Witness sometimes witness on envelope and ballot. In any event the number of ballots am individual is allowed to serve as a witness for is usually limited by law. This is a safeguard to preclude one person filling out and witnessing a batch of fraudulent ballots.
          3. Ink and signature same or similar on envelope.

          If basic rules, like retaining envelope were not followed that is indicative of lax procedures in that precinct. Unable to audit? Throw out the results of that precinct.

          Will that happen? Maybe. Will Legislators act if courts refuse? Maybe.

          Milhouse in reply to snowshooze. | November 12, 2020 at 3:35 pm

          Commo, the problem is that even if you find clear proof of massive fraud in the envelopes, what can the court do about it? The votes that were in them can no longer be identified and canceled. It would be nice if they were all deducted from Biden’s total, but no court is going to order that.

          CommoChief in reply to snowshooze. | November 12, 2020 at 6:25 pm

          Granted political will is needed to:
          1. ID the bad actors /prosecute bad actors/ send bad actors to prison. Future election remedy.

          2. If can be traced to specific precinct(s) then limit electoral consequences to those precincts. Current election remedy.

          So if 50 counties and five were where the shenanigans occurred invalidate the ballots in those five precincts. Court optional legislature could do that as a condition of certification.

          Will a court or legislature choose that? Maybe because it limits it’s impact on the precincts that choose to play dirty. The remaining precincts are not hit, their votes count.

          Another option for legislators is to change the distribution of EC votes for 2020. Award the votes like Nebraska and Maine. This is appealing for two reasons. First no ballot is disqualified and it also largely mitigates the effect of bad actors in a handful of precincts/counties.

          Will it be done? Could be. Very appealing as a solution that balances out the damage. Will it? Still takes political will and moral courage and we ate discussing the potential actions of politicians……. probably not.

It should be easy to find out who was in charge of personnel at the Polls.
Who did the hiring?

So would a recount of those ballots only effect the presidential race? Or other races on the ballots too?

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | November 11, 2020 at 11:54 pm

Rut Roh caught on tape.

Here’s the NYC Mayor’s daughter saying Biden “Was Able To Steal” Election! (Video)

With regard to vote flipping as observed in some videos of ongoing election night tallies, HOW did the numbers travel from the Dominion machines to the CNN (et al) chyrons?

Are we to believe that the CNN counter/chyrons were patched into some authoritative (State SoS) site?

For all we know, some dweebs at CNN were gaming the chyrons to create voter oppression in the central, mountain and pacific time zones.

I’d like to better understand the network interconnectivity to pinpoint the source of the vote swaps, rather than mindlessly say “It was Dominion”. We already know Dominion machines were connected to the network by photos of the cable nests (yikes!) and the Dominion machine(s) crash in Georgia when the night before the election the ‘vendor’ updated the software over the network.

If the Dominion machines are the scanner/counters, their results would be fed somewhere to the precincts, and from there to some state level tally, where I assume CNN got their numbers live. The switching may well have occurred at the SoS level, and not the scan/count machine level. It may be a political blunder to insist it was the Dominion machines, if by certification test they can prove with a handful of them that they count/report accurately after the fact.