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EXCLUSIVE: FOX News Has Copies of ‘Damning’ Biden Family Documents Removed From Shipping Package

EXCLUSIVE: FOX News Has Copies of ‘Damning’ Biden Family Documents Removed From Shipping Package

We have learned from an extremely reliable source in a position to know that Fox News did in fact keep a copy of the documents.

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1321608055549775872

In an explosive development, Tucker Carlson of FOX News reported Wednesday night that a potentially ‘damning’ set of ‘confidential documents’ related to the Biden family business dealings went missing while in transit with an overnight carrier between New York and Los Angeles this week.

The shipping company conducted an internal investigation and was unable to recover the contents of the package which was discovered by an employee to be opened and empty.

Neither Tucker in his on-air statement, nor Fox News in its news report, stated that the missing set of documents was the only copy.

Nonetheless, this has given rise to claims that the missing set of documents meant Fox News does not have a copy.  Jonathan Chait at New York Magazine has headlined his reporting with such a claim, as have many on Twitter who are asserting that Carlson is using “the dog ate my homework” excuse.

We have learned from an extremely reliable source in a position to know that Fox News did in fact keep a copy of the documents.

We will continue to follow this story as it develops.

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I hope FOX had enough sense to keep a copy.

Of course, it’s just as likely it was a FOX operative that removed the docs…

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Barry. | October 28, 2020 at 11:57 pm

    For your consideration…..

    “The package, likely a Fed-X delivery, was intercepted by FBI agents using mechanisms for tracking and surveillance that open targeting through portals connected to DHS.

    As an outcome of the U.S. Patriot Act, the U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security has an agreement in place with mail shipping companies, public/private services, that essentially allows them a portal to track all in-state and interstate mail deliveries.

    The FBI has access to this data network in the same way the FBI has access to federal transportation records. Just like when you book a flight and DHS portals are open that allow FBI to track your movements domestically. This type of portal is also accessed in private company transportation like Uber, Lyft etc. DHS, and as a consequence the FBI, can easily track your whereabouts.

    Without much hesitation I will bet the FBI was monitoring the communication of Bobulinski, and by extension the entire Tucker Carlson production network. Once the shipment was known to be taking place, the DHS portals are opened; the package is tracked; and the FBI moves in to intercept the delivery.

    The transport company doesn’t need to be participating because they are essentially unneeded. Their system network is connected to the FBI….”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/28/tucker-carlson-bobulinski-documents-intercepted-and-removed-from-overnight-package/

      The one issue with this is that the envelope was left to be found. The FBI would take the whole thing. Frankly, a Democrat operative would take the whole thing so who knows.

        DaveGinOly in reply to rustypaladin. | October 29, 2020 at 11:19 am

        The empty packaging was allowed to continue to transit to make it more difficult for the point of interception to be determined.

        The process described in the conservativetreehouse article describes a legitimate FBI interception. In that situation, depending on the nature of the contents and the ongoing investigation (in support of which the package is intercepted), the FBI would either remove the entire package from the delivery stream, or it would open the package, copy the contents, and put the package back into the delivery stream with the intent that no one be the wiser.

        In this situation, whoever intercepted the contents wanted to obscure the point at which the contents were removed. This doesn’t mean it wasn’t the FBI, but it does mean (IMHO) that the operation was not authorized by law. The FBI doesn’t steal things – it seizes them. In a legit operation the entire package would have been taken.

      On the flip side of that coin, is there anyone inside of the government that may know things like this might happen, and would be canny enough to set a trap and see who bites? Asking for a friend.

You would have to be an idiot to send anything anywhere without keeping a copy. Or better yet, keep the originals in a safe and send a copy.

The people at Fox News are not idiots. Therefore, I conclude that they most likely send copies of the documents and kept the originals.

    DaveGinOly in reply to OldProf2. | October 29, 2020 at 11:22 am

    “We have learned from an extremely reliable source in a position to know that Fox News did in fact keep a copy of the documents.”

    Whew!

    Although when Fox produces the duplicates, the Dems will say they’re fabricated. Fox will say, “No, they’re not. The originals were stolen.” And the Dems will reply, “A likely story” and claim the theft was fabricated to lend verisimilitude to forged documents.

      DaveGinOly in reply to DaveGinOly. | October 29, 2020 at 11:24 am

      Unless Fox was cagey enough to send copies, and kept the originals at home.

        BierceAmbrose in reply to DaveGinOly. | October 29, 2020 at 3:07 pm

        Send the content in the clear, to bait some dummies into grabbing it.

        Send copies, not originals to flush out another layer of operatives with bylines who will spin some cover like “dog ate my homework.”

        Maintain a solid chain of custody for the originals.

        Launch an investigation of the removal / tampering as its own thing. Not the US mail, but what’s the jeapordy for anybody involved in this purloining?

facebookisfacist | October 29, 2020 at 12:19 am

I figured there were copies when he reported it. What I took from the report that someone had become aware of the documents and used, possibly, gov’t methods to steal the documents. Tucker explained this to put the company on notice.

Do they mention anything about him raping his 7 year old daughter? Because she now says that he did. For years. And he also allowed his two boys, beau and hunter to do so. THIS IS HIS OWN DAUGHTER SAYING THAT HE RAPED HER. That’s the level of animal that the democrats are voting for. I BELIEVE THE DAUGHTER.

    gospace in reply to getsome. | October 29, 2020 at 1:52 am

    I’ve read about the showering with her father- which is perverted in itself. The rape charges? Got a link? Doesn’t seem to be findable on google or duckduckgo.

    Butt with the showering- has MSM covered it under the “All Women Must Be Believed Clause”? Or is this another “Except When Prominent Democrat Politicians” exception?

    MattMusson in reply to getsome. | October 29, 2020 at 9:42 am

    We do know that the Secret Service did reassign the female’s on Biden’s detail because he regularly exposed himself to them.

    Ghost Rider in reply to getsome. | October 29, 2020 at 10:32 am

    No question, Biden’s son and daughter are two very screwed up people (must be good parenting). The shower incidents with the father have some backup and appear to be true. Do you have any evidence of the other things you say the Biden males did? They are a twisted family, but some kind of evidence is needed.

    Valerie in reply to getsome. | October 29, 2020 at 10:38 am

    There’s evidence of the nudity and of course there’s Hunter’s blackmail pictures, plus a diary. Is a teenager’s diary real evidence?

Exposure after exposure. The stupids keep bobbing up like Chuckie Cheese wack a demons. ‘Anonymous’ showed up today as Miles Taylor, a 33 year old deep state brat with a DHS portfolio and dubious New York Times credentials. He’s a liar. That’s it!

FOX has the copies and should just publish them. Then let the deep state mumble and rumble and fumble and stumble and tumble.

So where did the idea that there were no copies come from?

    redc1c4 in reply to Milhouse. | October 29, 2020 at 2:40 am

    most likely?

    wishful “thinking”.

    rustypaladin in reply to Milhouse. | October 29, 2020 at 3:23 am

    The idea probably come from the fact the Right does not trust government or the media. What the powers that be forget is that this applies to our own side as well. A lot of us call ourselves the party of stupid for a reason. It’s also why we preach individual responsibility and self-reliance: You can’t count on the government or the media even those that are on your side. Sending the only copy sounds about par for the course if you don’t expect much from your side. That there are copies is a delightful change of pace.

      I think the assumption that there wasn’t a copy comes from experience with the “stupid party” . Where this falls apart is that Tucker/Fox are not part of the GOP.
      I am an engineer. I never walk across the room with copies, backups, backups of backups. It might take me forever to find it, but it is there somewhere in those terabytes.

    MarkS in reply to Milhouse. | October 29, 2020 at 9:32 am

    Tucker’s failure to mention that he still had the information

    Valerie in reply to Milhouse. | October 29, 2020 at 10:39 am

    From the same place as the allegation that Hunter’s laptops (s) are Russian Disinformation — a liar’s imagination.

    In his initial report Tucker did not say that there were copies.

1. Run explosive true story the msm ignores.
2. Send copies of related incendiary docs which get “lost” or stolen.
3. Announce docs were “stolen.” (Probably true and anticipated).
4.. Public wonders “What was in the docs?”
5. Release originals, incendiary material is secondary story to plot to steal docs.
6. Incendiary nature of material seeps into public consciousness.

    snopercod in reply to CKYoung. | October 29, 2020 at 9:27 am

    Yes, this smacks of a publicity stunt.

    Anonamom in reply to CKYoung. | October 29, 2020 at 10:16 am

    It was said on the show that it was the shipping company that discovered that the package had been opened and the contents removed.

      Rick the Curmudgeon in reply to Anonamom. | October 29, 2020 at 11:09 am

      Why was this package, of all that Fox News sent out that day via FedParcelService the one that got opened and the contents taken.

      (I’m assuming it wasn’t DHL, because they would have merely lost it.)

I still hope they weren’t stupid enough to send the originals.

An extremely reliable source says. So, we’re supposed to believe New York Times style sourcing now?

Show me the documents. No more games. Just show them.

    amwick in reply to irv. | October 29, 2020 at 9:40 am

    I think just about anyone with a brain is totally jaded by now. But this is Mike.. and I am pretty sure Prof. Jacobson was on board with the article. I trust them.. I hope down the road there will be some clarification.

    BierceAmbrose in reply to irv. | October 29, 2020 at 3:12 pm

    It’s an info op, slow-dripping the revelations an inch at a time.

    See, it’s a scam when each round of revelation is less than the prepositioning, like, say Maddown and the images of Trump tax returns.

    When each round is broader and stronger, the slow drip is an information op making it harder to stifle. Like, say, putting a corroborating witness on a live TV interview, after all the yelling about “hoax.”

Am I the only one thinking the documents contain unpublishable material. Say pornography.

That might now leak onto the internet without Fox being held accountable?

My initial reaction was, that isn’t a surprise. I imagine the Biden’s and their surrogates are doing everything they can to destroy damning documents. However, the more I thought about it I began to think, what does it matter. Nothing will happen to the Bidens as a result of all the incriminating evidence. The elite and political class are rarely held accountable for their actions.

Well that’s one way of finding out what sections of your information frighten the Bidens the most.

It is puzzling that the empty package was still in the pipeline. If federal agents took the material (see the Conservative Tree House piece linked above), I would expect that the whole thing would have gone missing (especially if there was a warrant involved) instead of the package opened, emptied and put back in the pipeline. That presumes that the agents were acting pursuant to a warrant and not freelancing, of course. It would also suggest that either Carlson or members of his staff must be under surveillance. How else could they know what what was in the package, the shipping company, and other information needed to identify and intercept it?

I am prepared to be wrong, but this almost sounds like an employee of the shipping company noted the intended recipient or the Fox News originating address and simply decided to engage in some opportunistic mischief.

I was watching Tucker last night, and he just did not seem that upset about the missing documents… He was angry, but reserved. I knew something was up..

Tucker Carlson’s announcement about the missing documents:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/10/28/tucker-carlson-bobulinski-documents-intercepted-and-removed-from-overnight-package/

At 1:25 he clearly states:
“they used pictures of what we had sent so searchers would know what to look for”

Interesting possibilities.

Is the fact of whether or not the FNC associate and mail-sender in question kept or didn’t keep either “the original” — if that’s its quality, rather than being merely a print-out, say, of the document-owner’s phone-text, forwarded directly or as an attachment to someone’s PC at FNC — or “a copy” — so, maybe a mere file made of the same forwarded phone-text, sent to the FNC associate’s hard drive — even relevant here?

I’d say, it’s not. But what’s logic, good argumentation, or intellectual/professional honesty/integrity got to do with the LW-MSM’s aim and reason for being in the present election cycle? Are we linking them? they might — but in all likelihood don’t — ask themselves. Some of their work, like the current “dog ate my homework” tainting, mislabeling, and deflecting, if it’s not gross, non-journalistic propaganda, on its face lacks serious respectability. The same LW-MSM-posers of journalism are, by and large, evidently and, I’d add, desperately competing for the operative, news-cycle-controlling, politically dominant narrative as we head toward the presidential-campaign finish line, it’s probably clear enough to most, rather than soundly inferring from and reporting, or responsibly commenting about solid news.

In listening to Tucker report the story on his TV program, I took note that he made no mention of any copy kept or not; and so, I assumed the network associate’s common sense and skill to keep one. But the related content itself that Tucker reported, apart from the non-statement about any possibly kept copy of the mailed documents, is the story in all this: An illegal, obviously inside-government theft of privately mailed material was stolen. That’s plenty and sufficient by itself and, in my view, the focus of any serious person’s concern!

So, I see so sensation, deception, sleight-of-hand or huckster-like conduct by Tucker whatsoever in what some feel was a duck, trick, or prevarication of some sort in his report, including an alleged non-report or professional omission.

All that is more than unnecessarily worrisome; frankly, I find it a bit screwy. But I’m not surprised, as the group to which journalistic pretenders, such as Jonathan Chait, behave like Twitter & Facebook affiliates. They are seen to act like and, in fact, appear to be drug-misusing, infantile morons about what really matters in this land: anyone’s life, liberty, and rightful property — such as an American citizen’s right to learn and to judge for themselves the merits or otherwise of critical, candidate-related information. Are you digging that up for us, the sovereign in all this?

There’s already so much damn noise out there. I try to listen for the signals. Know what counts, not what distracts, I tell myself repeatedly these days. I’m doing my own best to follow this sensible principle and think responsibly, as well as efficiently.

    MajorWood in reply to GatorGuy. | October 29, 2020 at 10:59 am

    It is never the crime; it is always the coverup.

    DaveGinOly in reply to GatorGuy. | October 29, 2020 at 11:42 am

    Today, very few documents are “original,” as in hand-written or typed. Almost every hard copy is a print out of documentation/photos stored digitally. Even if Fox didn’t retain a copy of what was sent to Tucker, what was sent to Tucker was almost certainly output from digital files, and those files almost certainly still exist. Even if Fox is not in possession of the files from which the material was printed, somebody has those files and could easily resend the material to Fox, and could potentially send the material to anyone (Rudy? Steve B.?).

    bhwms in reply to GatorGuy. | October 29, 2020 at 5:02 pm

    He didn’t mention copies directly, but he did say they used pictures so the search teams would know what they were looking for. Pictures implies someone at Fox had copies.

    What else is interesting is – any reasonable copier in an office can also be used as a scanner. Why not just scan them and email the file? or put them on a secure file server for retrieval? It is an odd set of things going on here.

I’d call it an October surprise, but there are already so many of them…

Be careful, be very careful. Slow Joe may get a copy of the Hildebeast’s manual for managing political problems. A La Jeffrey Epstein.

Be very interesting if they lightly irradiated the documents and then tested the usual suspects to see if they carried traces of the radiation.

I find it hard to believe that Mr. Bobulinski would turn over any originals to any third parties, including the FBI, which he sent them to last year, and Tucker. I bet everyone has been working with either paper or digital copies.

First of all, the story was not the documents, themselves, it was that some agency removed them from the shipping envelope prior to their delivery. It boosts interest in the Biden scandal story by adding a mystery.

Second, this was most likely NOT the work of a government agency. If it had been the FBI or other investigative services, acting in an official capacity, the entire package would have been seized upon delivery. Also, if it was done by members of an official agency, it would most likely have been done by the CIA. However, that agency has shown an incredible lack of imagination in recent decades, so, this is also unlikely.

Third, this was most likely a random crime of opportunity. The reason could be anything from simple curiosity, to the potential for monetary gain. But, the MO suggests that it was done by someone working for the delivery company or having knowledge of its operation. Leaving the packaging in the system obscures the point where the theft occurred. These packages are electronically tracked at several points in the delivery operation, especially at transfer points. If the package drops out of the system, then this gives investigators a fairly good idea where to start looking for it. If it continues on through the pipeline, then the exact point of the intercept is obscured.

While entertaining, there is really not much to see here. However, it does raise interest in the contents of the missing documents.

    DaveGinOly in reply to Mac45. | October 29, 2020 at 11:54 am

    “Second, this was most likely NOT the work of a government agency. If it had been the FBI or other investigative services, acting in an official capacity, the entire package would have been seized upon delivery.”

    Your post is similar to mine (see above), but you discount the possibility that this incident was committed by government agents merely because it was theft and not a seizure in which the entire package would have been taken. We agree that whoever took the documents wanted to obscure the point of theft. The fact that the package wasn’t stolen in its entirety does not eliminate government agents from the suspect list. It just means that the documents were not seized under warrant.

    Still, the most likely thief is a driver. Handlers in facilities are probably under video surveillance and drivers may not be (I don’t know that they are, but they could be). What if the carrier finds that, along the package’s route, a video surveillance system failed, or that a recording made at a particular date and time has gone missing, or was erased? Or maybe someone paid a driver for the contents of the package? This would involve the driver in the theft and help to assure his/her silence.

    There are obviously many possibilities.

      Bruce Hayden in reply to DaveGinOly. | October 29, 2020 at 1:37 pm

      The advantage that a government agency, like the FBI, would have here over the driver is that they have the means to know what was in the package by the automatic interception of the text messages or emails describing such. Also, from the same cause (responding to 9/11), the apparently have a back door into the tracking of packages being shipped by UPS FedEx, USPS, etc, and places where they can intercept them.

      The theory is not, really, that the FBI executed a warrant, but that this was the actions of rogue agents. Don’t forget – Crossfire Hurricane, SpyGate, etc were almost entirely executed by government employees using their agency powers, and expecting that their transgressions would be excused by the Dem President they were done to help get elected. And it is probable that, after everything was carefully swept under a rug, the miscreants would have been rewarded by the Clinton Administration for their initiative. This sort of government power misuse seems to have become common in the later years of the Obama/Biden Administration, so it should Not be surprising if enterprising souls at a government agency took the initiative to pull this off. Also, keep in mind that someone was able, apparently, to reach into the Manhattan federal detention facility and orchestrate the execution of Jeffrey Epstein, probably its most visible and well known occupant, and, so far, get away with it. That required a series of “errors” by multiple people to pull off, but pull it off, they did.

        People do not understand the psyche of the FBI.

        People believe the propaganda which the Bureau disseminates. This generates the idea that the Bureau exists to identify, locate and arrest and charge criminals and foreign agents in order to protect America. However, this is simply not true. Since its inception and the Hoover years, the reason for its existence is to wield political power. Everything that the Bureau does is to benefit itself. And, to make sure that the it can both prove its prowess and protect itself, the Bureau personnel are brainwashed to document everything and save that documentation. That is one of the reasons why Spygate and the Flynn prosecution malfeasance came to light, it was all documented. While the text diary of Boris and Natasha pointed us to the problem and the players. it was documentation generated and maintained by the Bureau itself which is the petard from which is has hung itself.

        So, the FBI would not have “stolen” the Carlson documents. It would have seized them, and copied them if desired, while generating documentation to justify that action. This is not what occurred. Now, the CIA might run black operations on VOOD [verbal orders of the director], but this does not have the fingerprints of that agency either. In fact, what it most resembles is an amateur operation, probably an opportunistic one. We’ll just have wait and see how this all shakes out.

UPS told The Daily Beast Thursday that they have located the missing documents sent to Tucker Carlson after an “extensive search.” “After an extensive search, we have found the contents of the package and are arranging for its return,” the UPS spokesman told the news outlet. “UPS will always focus first on our customers, and will never stop working to solve issues and make things right.”

If Fox did this to ascertain if there is a mole in their organization, the answer is yes.

BierceAmbrose | October 29, 2020 at 3:15 pm

Well, if its important, ship it with an exploding dye pack.

Is it wrong that I’m giddy thinking about operative g-persons covered in glitter paint?

BierceAmbrose | October 29, 2020 at 3:16 pm

Has Tucker started opening or closing with “And for the record, I am not suicidal, even over this.” yet?

Tucker raises Hell over the theft and … Wow! We found it! What a relief. Tucker never said there weren’t copies; he said the package of documents disappeared. If a package can disappear with a courier service, what could the gruberment Post Office do with millions of mail-in ballots from Republicans?

Fax copies of written stuff. Beam the video and audio over the internet on some cloud based app. No need to give the documents to some carrier to lose.

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