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CA Gov. Newsom signs executive order banning sale of new gas and diesel vehicles by 2035

CA Gov. Newsom signs executive order banning sale of new gas and diesel vehicles by 2035

Sure to feed the exodus from California.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZSxmyjKGEY

California’s businesses are struggling to recover for prolonged pandemic shutdowns. Its citizens are battling the effects of wildfires and power outages.

Sensible state political leaders would take these extreme emergencies as an opportunity to look how other similarly sized states (e.g., Florida and Texas) are handling public health and land use issues, and revise their plans to include policies and procedures that actually work.

However, nobody who has followed California politics for any length of time will claim Governor Gavin Newsom is sensible about anything not involving the obtaining and retaining of power. He has just signed an executive order on Monday that aims to ban the sale of new internal combustion engine cars in the state by 2035.

The order directs the California Air Resources Board to develop a phase-out plan that would require 100 percent zero-emissions personal use and dryage vehicles by 2035 and as many medium-duty and heavy-duty vehicle applications deemed feasible by 2045.

“Pull away from the gas pumps,” Newsom said. “Let us no longer be victims of geopolitical dictators that manipulate global supply chains and global markets.”

California is both the largest new car market in the U.S., with 1.8 million vehicle sales in 2019, and also accounts for the most electric car purchases of any state.

Newsom’s order does not ban people from owning gas-powered cars or selling them on the used car market. It simply ends the sales of all new gasoline-powered passenger cars and trucks in the state of nearly 40 million people (at least that’s the current number).

The automotive industry had been working to increase the market share of electric cars, and had not anticipated this doubling down on green justice policies from Newsom.

Jessica Caldwell, executive director of insights at the Edmunds.com auto pricing site, said Newsom’s announcement “does seem like this is a significant shot fired against” the internal combustion engine.

She expects the California announcement to trigger high-level meetings at all the auto companies which were moving toward electric vehicles but didn’t expect a zero-emissions mandate in 15 years. Automakers may have to rethink manufacturing and capital spending plans because of the mandate, she said.

Many Californians are pointing out both the poor timing and the poor policy.

https://twitter.com/reallouiehuey/status/1308871811988324355?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Many Californians aren’t going to wait until 2035 to respond to the Governor’s latest decree.

A poll conducted late 2019 by the University of California at Berkeley found more than half of California voters have given ‘serious’ or ‘some’ consideration to leaving due to the high cost of housing, heavy taxation, or political culture.

According to Census data in 2018 more than 86,000 people left California for Texas, nearly 70,000 left for Arizona and about 55,000 left for Washington, according to NBC.

For those who don’t wish to move, perhaps the Recall Gavin Newsom effort might be their best hope.

A statewide campaign that’s underway to remove Gov. Gavin Newsom from office has an enthusiastic presence in Shasta and Siskiyou counties.

Two previous recall efforts weren’t successful but the regional manager in charge of collecting signatures in nine Northern California counties says the organization has better experience this time around.

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So he issued an executive order that says many years from now, provided somebody else doesn’t issue an executive order reversing his executive order, and nobody sponsors a referendum item reversing his executive order, that says something is supposed to happen so many years from now to take everybody’s mind off distractions like the state is on fire and sometimes the lights don’t work. Good job!

    The only type of governor who would do that would be a Republican one- and the courts would immediately rule that a Republican governor can’t undo an executive order with his own executive order, a stare decisis decision following the Supreme Court precedent that Trump couldn’t do it under the “Orangeman Bad” clause in the Constitution.

    Concise in reply to vinnymeyer. | September 24, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    No, he issued an executive order that discriminates against instate commerce and is blatantly unconstitutional. Today or years from now, it still violates the Commerce Clause (well Dormant Commerce Clause as the doctrine is called).

    CaptTee in reply to vinnymeyer. | September 24, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    If I wasn’t retired, I’d enter the offie pool on when this will be reversed.

Brave Sir Robbin | September 23, 2020 at 9:20 pm

I thought a court already ruled that a liberal executive order cannot be vacated or changed by a conservative.

How do we make all the liberals move to California, and then how do we keep them there, quarantined like a dangerous virus?

    Actually, they didn’t say you can’t rescind the liberal’s executive order, but only that your process for doing so needs to dot all the i’s and cross all the t’s in such a way that will satisfy the never-satisfied liberal judges.

    You can’t fool us. We know that if you were in California you would just run away!

legacyrepublican | September 23, 2020 at 9:23 pm

There are days I am so grateful I moved out of California. This has to be one of them.

Years ago, it was the Air Quality Control board that caused me to reconsider where my humble abode would be.

Too bad they don’t send me a mail in ballot so I can vote them out of office.

    The Friendly Grizzly in reply to legacyrepublican. | September 24, 2020 at 7:22 am

    I left a time or two, then left for good in 2005. I come out to visit family every so-often, and within two to three days I get “the crawlies”. My skin crawls and I am physically uncomfortable until I am on my way home.

Hell hole.

Several years ago a friend of mine was driving an eighteen wheeler and had a load going to California. They stopped him on the way in and gave him several citations including one for an oil leak in a new truck that had less than 1000 miles. $300 in fines. They stopped him on the way out and have him the same citations again. $300 in more fines. He never hauled another load to california. Makes me wonder how they will be able to survive without truck traffic coming into the state.

    Several new records were set during the lockdowns due to the hysteria for the Cannonball Run.

    Shaved more than 3 hours off the record, for the non-sanctioned non-event.

    Biggest hurdle now, that didn’t exist when the race first started, is the delay at the CA border. Supposedly for an “agricultural inspection”.

    At best, you lose at least a half an hour just waiting your turn to have your vehicle cavity-searched.

    Seems the main point of it is to raise revenue for the State.

    As you point out though, the actual effect is to discourage people going there at all.

      henrybowman in reply to Aarradin. | September 23, 2020 at 11:20 pm

      Not that recent an addition. First time we drove into California, in our new 1999 RV, we got the inspection. My wife calls them the “fruit nazis.” We’ve only risked one trip into CA since, and we’ve lived under two hours from the border for 20 years.

        tom_swift in reply to henrybowman. | September 24, 2020 at 12:18 am

        In the ’70s Arizona did it too, so at the CA-AZ border they just looked for illegals. Something about aphids hiding in rattan furniture. I was never delayed long since I obviously wasn’t giving a carload of rattan furniture a sightseeing tour. AZ later gave up, though. I guess some rattan got through and the aphids conquered all.

      danvillemom in reply to Aarradin. | September 24, 2020 at 10:26 am

      Sorry for the down vote…..fat fingers. The CA border inspections have been in place for my entire life to protect the citrus crops. During the fruit fly mess of the early 1980s they actually setup inspection stations on freeways in the SF Bay Area to protect the central valley crops. It added 30 mins to every commute for months….thank you Jerry Brown.

SeekingRationalThought | September 23, 2020 at 10:07 pm

Can Newsom put more oil in his hear? There’s more oil in his hair than in a gas-powered car. He can’t produce anything useful, so he sucks up to the wealthy to lord it over the working stiff. What an bozo, completely lacking in self-awareness and intellect.

I’d say the last one to leave please turn off the lights, but the lights will have been out long before that.

I wonder if the order will prohibit people buying a new or nearly new car in Nevada, Arizona, or Mexico and driving it to California. Consider the implications for interstate and international commerce and creative ways of evading the law.

    henrybowman in reply to Cache. | September 23, 2020 at 11:23 pm

    Do you like bigger tunnels? Because that’s how you get bigger tunnels.

    PODKen in reply to Cache. | September 24, 2020 at 2:58 pm

    Maybe you can get away with it … but every car brought into CA from another state by a CA resident to be licensed there requires a highway patrol inspection. They could just disallow the car at that point assuming the law would allow that … and my hunch is it would.

He should try banning people from exhaling.

And farting. No farting allowed!!

I’m going to make a fortune importing cars from Tejas.

Or, how about this. I’m going to make my fortune repairing cars. California. Now even more like Cuba.

How much you want to bet Pelosi isn’t going to go without a hair dresser?

I got $10,500 for my 2011 Tacoma.

https://www.articrigs.com/

They’re giving away greyhounds for free. I mean, they’re not sled dogs. But if you get enough of them they can pull your sled.

California can’t maintain their power grid under current usage patterns. So here’s an idea, let’s add even more demand by making people recharge their cars off of our failing grid.

    Grrr8 American in reply to Ironclaw. | September 24, 2020 at 10:07 am

    I believe that the Progressives consider that a feature, not a bug. They very much intend to put the quality of life on a severe downward spiral for those who live in “advanced” countries (the elite being exempt, of course). It will all be imposed under cover of “sustainability” (and to some degree, Covid and its sequels).

    Agenda 2030 and the “Great Reset” (a/k/a New World Order) has broken-out from the world of “conspiracy theories” into clear and present dangers:

    https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/post2015/transformingourworld/

    https://www.weforum.org/great-reset

      Grrr8 American in reply to Grrr8 American. | September 24, 2020 at 10:13 am

      P.S. I neglected to mention that this “feature” includes Cass Sunstein-like “nudging” people into dense urban areas dependent upon mass transit, and the elimination of personal transportation.

      Eliminating internal combustion products and replacing them with low-range, expensive vehicles that are expensive to recharge (as electric prices will as Obama put it “necessarily skyrocket”) — expensive if available at all — will “nudge” the plebes into city centers (apartments) where they can access mass transit.

      Suburbs, single family homes and commuting are all on the endangered species list. See, e.g., the push to eliminate zoning for single family homes, and the “Affirmatively Fair Housing Act” (or something like that) that began in the Obama administration, and that China Joe has pledged to execute as President.

I lied. If you want to get a dog for free they don’t think you’re serious.

“signed an executive order on Monday that aims to ban the sale of new internal combustion engine cars in the state by 2035.”

Does California still have anything resembling a legislature, or have they just gone to the dictator model as a cost-saving measure?

    They have something resembling a legislature. Resembling being the operative word.

    I grew up in the belly of the beast. Oakland. Next door to Berkeley. I mention it because I know Democrat politics like I know the back of my hand. Pelosi. Hello!

    Notice I am trying manfully to not curse. Thank gawd I got to Tejas.

http://manginphotography.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/blog003.jpg

I really tried to like horses. I used to take care of Charlie O, the Oakland A’s mascot, when I was a kid. I felt sorry for Charlie O. I spent more time with that mule than anyone in his life. He seemed to like me.

Maybe I didn’t give horses a fair shake. When it comes to equines I got along better with donkeys and mules. Like Charlie O.

Zebras, on the other hand, I just shot them if I could get close enough. Tasty critters, those. And I made sure they were dead because they will kick and bite the holy hades out of you if you’re stupid enough to give them a chance.

Lamas are the same way. You look at them and they seem so nice. They are freaking fierce. You don’t want to get on the bad side of a Lama.

http://5maplesfarm.com/llama-fighting-teeth/#:~:text=Fighting%20teeth%20in%20an%20angry%20or%20competitive%20male,and%20have%20been%20known%20to%20castrate%20other%20males.

“Fighting teeth are nothing to smile about

Fighting teeth in an angry or competitive male are dangerous. They are extremely sharp and curved backward; made for ripping and tearing into other animals. During a fight, llamas use their teeth to rip into the ears, legs and testicles of their opponent. They can rip all the way down to the bone and have been known to castrate other males. That’s certainly one way to get rid of mating competition! For this reason, most llama owners have the fighting teeth removed from males.”

Did you get the part about testicles and castration? Oh, trust me, Donkeys have some real chompers, too.

I’ve hunted Africa. I’m actually more scared of Zebras than I am of lions.

Notice I capitalized Zebra.

https://www.vvasafaris.com/trophy-fees/

A hundred and fifty grand for a lion. You can kill a Zebra for less than a grand, if you shop around.

Just so you know, I am a complete @$$hole. The last time I hunted Africa I killed an elephant. The thing was the elephant and his two buddies were eating subsistence farmers out of hearth and home. One elephant can eat all the corn the farmer is hoping to survive on, him and his wife and kids, for an entire year in one night. Three elephants for a week.

So I killed one elephant and the other two got the message. I shot the elephant in Zimbabwe and I believe the other two are in Uganda. And I didn’t feel bad about it.

The governor’s EO is as empty as the unbuilt reservoirs Pat Brown planned for a future California of million. That was one of the last Democrat planned projects that had value. Since then the money has been spent turning the Cali into a third world failed state. Can’t wait to see the govs new coolie powered rickshaw in 2035.

Forty million fools and their governor…

Not even an imaginary Republican can give science a slap in the face like a Democrat.

If Newsom thinks that battery power is “zero emission”, he couldn’t be more wrong. He really should have spent more time in school.

Aside from that, wait until people start to realize that dead battery disposal is a ticking ecological time bomb. Not all batteries are terribly dangerous (though none are entirely safe), but certainly the ones he’s trying to force us to produce in unprecedented quantities are just plain deadly.

Tom, what part of 47 tons of non-recyclable plastic per wind turbine do people not get? Oh, and I’m not even getting into the tons of other $^&@.

Have a nice day with your clean energy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills

Hey, here’s a fun fact. For every one ton of rare earth magnets you need to make the wind turbines work you get one tone of radioactive waste.

Have a nice day.

what is his plan to replace all the tax revenue from gas and diesel oil purchased? Electric vehicle purchasers in most states are basically wearing out the roads for free and in many cases getting a tax break as well.

    Arminius in reply to buck61. | September 24, 2020 at 12:36 am

    I’m just spitballing here, but I think Gruesome Newsom plans to tax us former Californios who escaped.

    Do you doubt me?

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Arminius. | September 24, 2020 at 12:42 am

      I read about that last week. The article said you would have to pay California income tax for earnings from the past 10 years. So I guess that means even if you’ve been living outside California earning in another state for that Whole Decade, you’ll still have to pay California income tax on it.

        They’re @$$holes.

        I bet you think I’m an @$$hole because I’ve been mentioning eating whales.

        Really, I can spend my entire life without eating any more whale meat. I only mentioned it because I will never be as big an @$$hole as Nancy Pelosi or, really, any other Democrat.

      Joe-dallas in reply to Arminius. | September 24, 2020 at 9:07 am

      CA wont be able to tax non – california source income on former CA residents

      A) commerce clause
      B) pension source act 1996
      c) Kaestner v NC US Supreme Court 2018 term -457 6.21.2019

        Brave Sir Robbin in reply to Joe-dallas. | September 24, 2020 at 9:51 am

        A court shall decide what ever it wants to decide. When required, you take precedent out of the garbage can and place it on your desk. When required, you either leave precedent in the garbage can, or take it off your desk and throw it in. Today, the law is sophistry. Your results are due to the composition and mood of the jury and/or the black robed minister presiding. Power is a corrupting thing. Courts have too much, as they are too rarely given to vigorous oversite by the elected representatives of the people, or the people themselves, who tend to be reverently deferential. And yet we need a system that provides some finality in decision, so that resolution is not meted out in the street, when can render even greater finality and tragedy. It’s just a shame what the law has become. “Living, breathing” law lives and rules the land, which is just a fancy way or saying arbitrary and capricious edicts rule the land. Our system requires the exercise of personal and civic virtue. As that is lost, so is the Republic and our civilization.

          Kaestner was a unanamous opinion written by Sotomayer

          pension source act was signed into law by clinton in 1996

          Highly unlikely that any court is going to ignore – even a living constitution.

          Brave Sir Robbin in reply to Brave Sir Robbin. | September 24, 2020 at 5:05 pm

          I do not understand your reasoning. Are you saying Sotomayer cannot write another opinion? The court cannot vote on another case? Anything signed into law by Bill Clinton cannot be looked upon or considered by the judiciary? How does that disprove a charge of sophistry or arbitrary application of law? To the court, it’s a tax when they say it is a tax, even if its actually a tomato. And speaking of tomatoes, it’s a vegetable because the Supreme Court declared it so (Nix v. Hedden, 149 U.S. 304 (1893)). And you must stand there and agree with them, or you go to jail. Prosecutor: “Your honor, due to grievous prosecutorial misconduct, we the people, drop all charges against General Flynn.” His Honor: “Noted, I shall sentence him next month and during the while, contemplate additional charges you have not brought before that I will also render sentence upon.” Court of Appeals, first try: “Dismiss this case immediately!” Full Court, second try: “Wait, let’s just see how this plays out. What harm could it do?”

          When you go into the court room, it’s all song and dance. Hope the ring master and the gallery are in a good and favorably disposed mood, because your attorney is the clown, and if he does not entertain them well, his client goes to jail, or otherwise has his life destroyed.

          The law lives and breathes these days, so it means what it means only at the particular moment of any breath. It’s an arbitrary and capricious rule.

      markymark in reply to Arminius. | September 24, 2020 at 9:26 am

      Man In Bowler Hat (Terry Jones): To boost the British economy I’d tax all foreigners living abroad.

      The Pythons were way ahead of their time.

I didn’t mean you in particular, Tom.

Buck. Whatever. I really want to kill a sea mammal. My friend married an Inuit woman. And whale makes a mighty fine meal. Plus it feeds the whole family, well, depending on how big the sea mammal (dolphin lasts longer than seal but not as long as beluga).

I knew you needed to hear that.

Actually the tastiest whale I ate was cooked by a Thai woman. She was married to a Norwegian man and apparently it’s legal to kill whales in Norway. Yum Pla Muk.

https://www.whats4eats.com/salads/yum-pla-muk-recipe

You can buy dolphin meat in Japan but the mercury content is nothing you want to mess with.

As the fires in CA continue to get worse, and the Gov keeps saying “It’s not my fault, it’s global warming,” the electric utility will keep turning off customers by the thousands.

So when the fire approaches your house, and the power is turned off so that you can’t charge your electric car, how do you evacuate? My friend who lives in CA says that this scenario has already happened, where fires or overloads have turned off the power and electric cars aren’t usable.

I hate to use euphemisms. I don’t harvest animals. I kill them. Because, how do the rest of you look at it? I fooking kill them. That’s how they see it.

But, given that I’m a killer, I don’t need to be nasty about it. When I was living in Japan you can order ikizekuri. Or Ikezukuri.
Whatevs.

It’s alive. And it’s staring at you.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ikizukuri&docid=608015310360543384&mid=63F4C74B5DB82F1AD81663F4C74B5DB82F1AD816&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

I don’t, how do I say this? It’s alive. And it’s staring at you. Gulp, gulp, gulp. IT’S WATCHING YOU EAT IT!! OK, I’m done now.

American Soviets: impoverish the nation, enslave the starving, then loot the masses.
That’s the plan.

No, I’m not done. Tomorrow is a new day.

Lionel has the edge on the new rail system then.

Did you notice their mentors in Venuzualia are reduced to ride donkeys?

Elections have consequences, especially when you elect a Marxist a-hole.

Just so I understand. It’s illegal for you to grown wheat in your own yard for your own consumption because it impedes interstate commerce (see Wickard v. Filburn–the most appalling Supreme Court decision that few people have ever heard of and the authorization for much of the administrative state). But it’s OK for the governor of the largest state to ban the sale of cars which were produced in–interstate commerce?

P.S. Where’s the electricity going to come from to power all of the electric cars? They can’t produce enough “green” electricity to power air conditioners on a warmer than usual summer’s day.

    The Friendly Grizzly in reply to Disgusted. | September 24, 2020 at 8:34 am

    Oddly enough, California WAS at one time a major producer of automobiles. GM in Van Nuys and Fremont and one other I can’t remember; Ford in Pico Rivera and San José (and Richmond before that), Chrysler in City of Commerce / Los Angeles.

    Joe-dallas in reply to Disgusted. | September 24, 2020 at 11:57 am

    Wickard – the wheat was being grown for consumption in a commercial dairy operation. The case was correctly decided under the commerce clause.

    See O’Conner dissent in (I recall the case was the gun free zone case – may apologies for not remembering the actual case). Basically she reiterated that the majority was misrepresenting the holding in Wickard.

    The problem is that subsequent courts have greatly misinterpreted the holding and massive misconstrued the holding in subsequent cases.

      Joe-dallas in reply to Joe-dallas. | September 24, 2020 at 12:26 pm

      Oconner in Raich

      The Court suggests that Wickard, which we have identified as “perhaps the most far reaching example of Commerce Clause authority over intrastate activity,” Lopez, supra, at 560, established federal regulatory power over any home consumption of a commodity for which a national market exists. I disagree. Wickard involved a challenge to the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1938 (AAA), which directed the Secretary of Agriculture to set national quotas on wheat production, and penalties for excess production. 317 U. S., at 115–116. The AAA itself confirmed that Congress made an explicit choice not to reach—and thus the Court could not possibly have approved of federal control over—small-scale, noncommercial wheat farming. In contrast to the CSA’s limitless assertion of power, Congress provided an exemption within the AAA for small producers. When Filburn planted the wheat at issue in Wickard, the statute exempted plantings less than 200 bushels (about six tons), and when he harvested his wheat it exempted plantings less than six acres. Id., at 130, n. 30. Wickard, then, did not extend Commerce Clause authority to something as modest as the home cook’s herb garden. This is not to say that Congress may never regulate small quantities of commodities possessed or produced for personal use, or to deny that it sometimes needs to enact a zero tolerance regime for such commodities. It is merely to say that Wickard did not hold or imply that small-scale production of commodities is always economic, and automatically within Congress’ reach.

Amazing how Dhimmi-crats are unwilling to let the free market work on its own, according to consumer preferences. I mean, it’s obvious that electric car companies have momentum; not just Tesla, but, Toyota, GM, Volkswagen, Nissan; all the major manufacturers are investing hundreds of billions of dollars in electric propulsion and associated battery technology. It’s obvious that this is the way of the future.

Yet, of course, a greasy Dhimmi-crat apparatchik must insert himself into the picture and command by obnoxious and totalitarian fiat, what the market is effecting on its own, anyway.

If you have the land, you can grow your own wheat crop. It’s a great way of protecting your garden soil over the winter. You can grow a cover crop which you can use yourself. If you don’t have room to grow wheat, you can search for a local flour or feed mill.

No. Really.

I bet Elon is creaming his underwear over this one. And I imagine Tesla’s stock price is getting a bump. But isn’t the state that hates ‘rich people’ except when they are looting them?

California has a carve-out from Congress allowing them to set their own emissions regulations. Without the carve-out, doing so would violate Congress’ exclusive legislative jurisdiction over interstate commerce. The carve-out permits CA to dictate manufacturing practices to businesses that aren’t within its territorial jurisdiction, extending the authority of one state beyond its borders into the territory of other states, as well as preventing the sale of similar articles that move in interstate commerce for sale in other states.

Newsom’s executive order is clearly either a direct violation of the commerce clause or an exercise of presumed authority under the carve-out that seems to go beyond what was contemplated by Congress when CA was granted the exemption.

This principle also applies to firearms and a host of other articles that move in interstate commerce. A state can’t make it’s own “if you want to sell it here” or “you can’t sell it here” rules about articles that move in interstate commerce without the permission of Congress. (Personally, I don’t think Congress as the authority to delegate any of its power to a state or states.)

This will do wonders for the used car market.

What a joke this guy is, California can’t keep the lights on in peoples homes but he is making sure everyone owns a EV that they will not be able to charge.

Now that this has been out for a day or so I am surprised at the positive reception Newsom’s EO has received – especially from people in my church! To sum up the response it has been, “Finally! Someone has done something real to address Climate Change!” The nuclear physicist I know is pleased as punch! Are they seeing something I’m not? Am I smarter than them? I see so many problems with this in the future that it will become an absolute nightmare.

    Brave Sir Robbin in reply to B Buchanan. | September 24, 2020 at 5:08 pm

    Yes, you are smarter than they are. Do not ignore or disregard the obvious.

      Considering that California has brownouts already caused by previous “green initiatives”, there is no way they will be able to generate enough electricity to charge a state full of electric vehicles.

I would like to say the auto mfgrs would decide to quit selling cars in Cali, but they’ll probably drop to their knees like Harris and kowtow for the market share.
If I was the governor of a state selling Cali electricity the cost would be high enough to subsidize the people of my state for at least half their normal bills.

This guy even looks like a stark raving lunatic. I can gurantee you that there will still be gas and diesel cars and trucks running up and down Commiefornias roads and highways in 2135. There’s nothing else to do the job. Therefore talking gibberish about it today is utterly irrational because you can’t replace gas and oil. There’s nothing else on this planet to do the job and any hogwash about doing so is just that. Can’t be done. Won’t be done. Period. Sad, true. But the universe cares not. It gave us fossil fuels and that’s what we have to work with. All the leftard gibberish in the commiecrat party won’t change that. Now we could run leftards through a still and run a few weeks off that but it’s not really going to help with pollution.

“….but they’ll probably drop to their knees like Harris”

You really want to go there?

Arizona, Oregon and Nevada dealerships are smiling.

Or, maybe, Japan.

https://www.japan-partner.com/

“WHY JAPANESE USED CARS ARE THE MOST PREFFERED IN THE WORLD
Cars in Japan are very carefully maintained and the Japanese roads are renown to be the best in the world. Maintenance standards for motor cars driven in Japan are one of the highest in the world. Japanese government discourages people to own cars more than 5-6 years through a tier based “shaken” (technical car examination) system – the older the car is the more “shaken” tax you have to pay”

Americans stationed in Japan can get cars for free.

Or, at least I could. Back in the 90s.

I got a Nissan Bluebird (Maxima in American terms) 1.8L turbo, 5 speed, for free. It was freaking hot.

Oh, you can’t get the 1.8L turbo in America. I retired in 2008 so I don’t actually know if you can even get one in Japan. Gawd, could that thing fly.

I blew up the engine and got a free Toyota. Apparently when the timing belt breaks on a Nissan, at least on the older Nissans back in the 90s, the valves slam into the pistons.

Toyotas didn’t have that problem. But my Camry wasn’t nearly as much fun.

https://www.carfolio.com/nissan-bluebird-1.8-zx-turbo-11847?car=11847

135hp? I don’t think so.

Low IQ Gavin

Governor mandates electric cars in a State that has no electricity…

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