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Kenosha, WI Under Siege By Antifa/BLM Rioters

Kenosha, WI Under Siege By Antifa/BLM Rioters

This is no more about Jacob Blake than the months-long, nationwide riots are about George Floyd

https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1298114311110438913

Kenosha, WI is under siege by mobs of violent rioters, looters, vandals, and arsonists. The mainstream media is spinning this as a normal reaction to the police shooting of Jacob Blake, but it’s obviously a gang of criminal thugs wreaking havoc and destroying lives and livelihoods because they can.  No matter the impetus, this is not okay.

We do not yet know the full details of the Blake incident, but from the video that has been released, it seems clear that Blake refused to follow police instructions as he walked to his car, ignoring the officers telling him to stop.

Watch:

Instead of following lawfully-issued law enforcement commands, he did not stop; instead, he attempted to get in his vehicle, presumably to drive away but possibly to retrieve a weapon. We don’t know yet.

This refusal to follow police commands seems to be a pattern in a lot of the police shootings we see, and of people of all races, the solution is not destruction but education. Do what the police tell you, and you won’t be shot. There, lesson over.

We will provide updates as we learn more from the investigation—including from interviews with Blake, witnesses, and the officers involved—about what led up to the point picked up in the video and what the officers saw behind the door that blocks Blake’s upper body from viewers in the released video.

In the meantime, the rabid BLM/antifa hordes are destroying Kenosha in “protest,” and Democrat leaders—from Wisconsin governor Tom Evers to Kenosha mayor John Antaramian to Joe Biden, the latter of whom was quick to “condemn systemic racism” for the shooting without awaiting facts but not the shocking subsequent violence—are letting it happen.  For three days now.

These disgusting, base criminals have looted, damaged, and/ or destroyed 30 businesses (many of them black-owned), have set entire car lots on fire, have smashed parked cars, and have assaulted at least one person, an elderly man who was trying to protect his business.

This seems peaceful enough; a bit alarming that they are in a residential neighborhood, but they are just marching and screaming claim to the city’s streets (also rather alarming).

After dark, though, the criminals come out to wreak havoc on everything and everyone in their path.

Via Twitchy:

The clip provides a glimpse of the twisted, depraved mindset of these criminal mobs.

No, deranged rioters, looters, arsonists, vandals, and assailants, we do not understand your criminal rampage and never will.  No matter how loudly you shriek about your “justice,” all we see is disgusting injustice against the innocent.

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A sure way to create more Trump voters.

The Friendly Grizzly | August 25, 2020 at 5:36 pm

Shoot to kill.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to The Friendly Grizzly. | August 25, 2020 at 6:36 pm

    “those looting the business and assaulting him have to be understood…INSANE.”

    I am glad that they are starting to understand, take hundreds of body bags, and start filling them up with BLM and ANTIFA.

    Maybe Feds need to step in where locals are chickenshit.

    WI governor just declared a state of emergency and called in more National Guard.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/25/kenosha-riots-wi-gov-declares-state-of-emergency-boosts-national-guard-presence/

    No evidence that they are being sent there to do anything other stay out of the way. Until they start shooting looters and rioters, this will only get worse. We have our own situation developing here in Pasadena and it could break out any day.

      Stay safe, Phil.

        Thank you. I’m no hero and Pasadena is target-rich so the odds are on my side. If they find me, I’m ready. As far as I can tell, we are probably in the planning stage. theme selection (“Say my name!”) target selection and tactics. All we’ve seen so far are pressers with family and protests led by the lesbian/soyboy useful tools.

        It’s the armed Antifa thugs that worry me. They hide behind the useful tools to throw things, attack bystanders and lately, shoot guns. I don’t expect to be anywhere near the action. We’ll see. And remember, no matter where you live, you are one incident away from the same thing. Truth doesn’t matter and your politicians are probably cowards too.

      His order says for “critical infrastructure and cultural sites”. BS

    Frank Hammond in reply to The Friendly Grizzly. | August 25, 2020 at 6:56 pm

    My Son lives near there – the Kenosha Police and Kenosha County Sheriffs Deputies stood by and watch the rioters and looters burn the town down. One business owner pleaded with the Police to help him – the Sheriff Deputies stood across the street and didn’t lift a finger.

    But the Kenosha County Sheriff will write tickets to regular citizens for not wearing a mask or arrest people for too large a social gathering at the lakefront. But when there is real trouble they run the other way.

      The Friendly Grizzly in reply to Frank Hammond. | August 25, 2020 at 7:04 pm

      I’m wondering, given their devolution into being nothing but revenuers, if it is, indeed, time to defund law enforcement?

      The police WERE peace officers in times past. Now, they – seleccively – enforce laws, no matter how silly.

      This is typical in Democrat-run areas, the police are most likely under a stand-down order. They are not allowed to act.

      The police are not autonomous, and they must follow orders from the officials who control them. In this case it seems Democrats are in full control. Thus the likely stand-down order. Democrats love to see cities burn and their citizens suffer. Something to do with Orange Man Bad in their minds, but most normal people understand they just don’t care about their own citizens as much as they do about trying to influence the 2020 election.

      You get what you vote for. If you live in a Dem-run city and didn’t vote for it, get out. Fast.

    I wonder if the NG troopers have
    firearms assigned to them or are they randomly passed out? Say a skirmish line is assaulted by criminals throwing lethal objects and the troopers open fire. Unless the specific injurious causing projectile from Kia or Wia can be traced ballistically back to a individual trooper….if these criminals knew how easy it would be to kill or maim them w/o any consequences to the shooter they may think twice.

FWIW, a TM this afternoon from a friend who lives ~1/2 mile from where the Kenosha riots are happening:

“Yeah. It’s kind of a downer of a day. Long night for our first responders. So many fires. I swear these protestors who roll in at night are being paid. They literally came into town with blacked out license plates and then went around road blocks.”
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If people are traveling interstate to burn and loot, where is the FBI??? Oh, I forgot, they are busy trying to overthrow the President.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to SHV. | August 25, 2020 at 6:38 pm

    Any vehicle with blacked out plates whould be on the receiving en of one or two RPG.

    TheOldZombie in reply to SHV. | August 25, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    Yes. They traveled to the city. I saw on Twitter a video of a convoy of cars with blacked out plates and emergency flashers on traveling towards the city.

    Tonight supposedly there is even more influx of these terrorists.

We don’t have all the facts, but it seems likely the Blake shooting was an excessive use of force. I mean if there was a gun or whatever in the car, why haven’t they told us?

    kyrrat in reply to Dennis. | August 25, 2020 at 5:55 pm

    Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t. Reaching into a car at the point he was tends to make one think they are reaching for a weapon in a glovebox. Regardless, is rioting, looting, burning down garbage trucks and car dealerships the correct reaction to a shooting in which the person shot is NOT dead, is in stable condition, AND will be able to testify as to their side of the story.

      Dennis in reply to kyrrat. | August 25, 2020 at 6:09 pm

      “Regardless, is rioting, looting, burning down garbage trucks and car dealerships the correct reaction”

      Well, obviously not, the car dealer didn’t shoot anyone, neither did the garbage man.

      The glove box in my car is on the right, a long way from the driver’s side where he was shot. Center console, perhaps? And he was being held by the shirt.

      3 kids, I’ll bet one was in the passenger seat.

      In any event 7 shots, in the back, at point blank range, seems a tad excessive to me.

        Don’t be obtuse. We have no idea what is happening behind the door or what the officers involved saw; was Blake reaching for a weapon under the driver’s seat or in the center console? We don’t know. What we DO know is that he repeatedly ignored lawful orders from law enforcement. If I had to rank behaviors that would lead to a person of any race being shot by police that would be second, right after actually drawing on a LEO.

        Look, the current culture inspires minority noncompliance with law enforcement. Call it fear, call it an intentional move by the left, call it whatever you want, but the simple fact is that we are compelled as citizens of these great United States to comply with law enforcement in any and all interactions (barring rogue cops demanding sex or drugs, etc.). Failure to comply escalates situations that are otherwise mundane. It’s not rocket science.

          Sure, but police are supposed to use reasonable force against people who disobey lawful orders. Unless they had some reason to think Blake was reaching for a weapon I doubt this is a justifiable shooting.

          Here’s the thing, Dennis, one we should have learned after all the other (later proven inaccurate) prejudgments of law enforcement action, we. do. not. know. yet. When we know what actually happened, we can best assess the situation. In the meantime, I am not going to second-guess trained law enforcement officers still willing to put their lives on the line every single day, knowing they have a target on them . . . and neither should you.

        number of shots is irrelevant. Suspect was clearly determined to do something, and takes a bit for bullets 9mm I assume, to have enough effect. Police are trained to shoot until the threat stops and with adrenaline, prob 2 more pulls of the trigger to stop. If you haven’t been through a use of force class or police simulation/ride along etc… there is really no way to describe what happens to the mind and body in a tense situation such as this.

        Seven shots is irrelevant. Cops and civilians are taught that once the decision is made to start shooting, you don’t stop shooting until the threat stops or you run out of ammo.

        For example, if he was high on PCP, you could have blown half his head away, and if you stop, he could have taken your gun from you, shot you and your partner, then made it down three flights of stairs before collapsing. (Taken from a true event)

        Since in the heat of the moment, you don’t have time to get a sample of his blood and run it, you have to act based on what 4 of your 5 senses are telling you.

    JackinSilverSpring in reply to Dennis. | August 25, 2020 at 6:27 pm

    1. Why didn’t Blake comply with their request?
    2. When he doesn’t comply, and then reaches for something in the car, do the police wait until they’re shot or knifed, or do they take action to protect themselves?

      The Friendly Grizzly in reply to JackinSilverSpring. | August 25, 2020 at 7:08 pm

      If there was one offiver, were they shouting contradictory orders?

        Huh? So one shouted, “Stop, Don’t Move, Police,” and another shouted, “Get to your vehicle and grab a weapon” while a third shouted, “Nevermind all this, just drive away”?

        What are you thinking? Of course the police didn’t shout contradictory orders. They all would be the same, stop, drop, hands in sight. The order doesn’t matter, it’s still clear that going to one’s car, opening the door, and doing whatever was NOT a police order.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to Dennis. | August 25, 2020 at 6:44 pm

    Based on the story they are telling, looking at the other banner cases, Saint Thugvon, gentle Michael Brown and on and on, it is likely that Blake has a long rap sheet and they are liars.

      JusticeDelivered in reply to JusticeDelivered. | August 25, 2020 at 10:46 pm

      Yep, a really bad dude, who definitely deserved to be put down. Please get on with the business of putting down rioters. That is something they will understand, and those who do not understand can join their comrades in Hell.

      Society does not have to put up with this.

    gonzotx in reply to Dennis. | August 25, 2020 at 6:49 pm

    What? You wait to be shot by the felon that’s not listening to instructions and has a history of pulling out weapons?

    Are you like… crazy? You

    Dantzig93101 in reply to Dennis. | August 25, 2020 at 7:24 pm

    Depending on who “they” are, they didn’t tell us about George Floyd’s fatal drug overdose, either.

    tom_swift in reply to Dennis. | August 25, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    The first job of the police is to secure the scene. Not to listen to legal arguments, not to investigate, not to gather evidence. Secure first. Then listen to the stories of the involved parties, do some preliminary checking of those stories, collect evidence which seems immediately relevant, etc.

    “Secure” means restrain. As in, handcuffs. If the situation is clear-cut, most of the cuffed persons can expect to be released in a few minutes. The general public is not too keen on being cuffed, but it’s not clear how the police can secure the scene if everybody’s running around, destroying evidence, rummaging for weapons, or just getting in the way.

    Anything which prevents the police from securing the scene is dangerous. Most people know this. So it’s not unreasonable for the police to assume as a working hypothesis that anyone who doesn’t cooperate with their securing efforts is up to something criminal or dangerous.

    Milhouse in reply to Dennis. | August 25, 2020 at 7:45 pm

    It doesn’t matter whether there was a gun or whatever in the car. The moment he reached in the police were right to shoot him. They are not required to wait for him to come out and turn around holding a gun and already firing.

    TheOldZombie in reply to Dennis. | August 25, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    Blake has a warrant for his arrest. Blake fought with police to avoid being arrested. Blake was tasered and the taser failed. Blake had a knife in his left hand. You can see it and you can hear the police saying drop the knife as they follow him to the drivers door. This also explains why they didn’t just tackle him. They didn’t want to get their guts ripped out by a Karambit knife.

    He opens the door and reaches towards the floor.

    Blake has in the past been arrest for firearms charges.

    It has been reported but not confirmed that Blake told the officers he was going to get his gun and shoot them.

    Blake sounds like a man who doesn’t want to go back to prison.

    I’m not seeing how this is unjustified. Even if he didn’t have a gun he still had a knife, fought officers, and was attempt to flee as a armed felon with children in that vehicle.

    amwick in reply to Dennis. | August 26, 2020 at 7:40 am

    Is it possible that somebody wanted this to escalate? Facts supporting LEO would rain on their hate parade.

JackinSilverSpring | August 25, 2020 at 5:49 pm

Anyone using a laser, throwing a projectile of any sort, or setting a fire should be subject to lethal force. If there is collateral damage so be it. Also, if I was a policeman sent to settle a dispute amongst blacks, I would hang back until everything gets sorted out by the disputants. I would then write up my report and be on my way. There is no reason to get fired or have one’s hometown torched.

    yup, sounds like police need to quit responding to domestic disputes as an emergency. Cqll it mutual combat, if one chooses to be a complainant they can take it to court in the morning. Too much emotion and them cops showing up only raises the tension, especially if someone knows they are wanted or have something illegal on them.

Meanwhile, businesses are leaving Portland because the city isn’t doing anything to stop the rioting, looting, and destruction or to clean up the mess left behind.

Mayor Wheeler responds by blaming it all on Proud Boys and other right-wing extremists. Yeah, right.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/developer-says-portland-businesses-vacating-city-as-streets-fill-with-needles-burning-mattresses-and-broken-glass

The unstated platform of the Democratic Party is “the rioters and terrorists work for us. We fund them and organize them. If you vote for us, we will call them off.”

Even a blind man could see these riots and acts of terrorism are not spontaneous reactions to anything. George Floyd was just an excuse who happened along at the right time. America’s enemies had all their forces ready to attack, and they were just waiting for an excuse. Floyd provided their “attack on Gliewitz.”

    “The unstated platform of the Democratic Party is ‘the rioters and terrorists work for us. We fund them and organize them. If you vote for us, we will call them off’.”

    /This

    Many American voters are buying it, too. Peace at any cost, even at the cost of the Republic. It’s scary, but very real. Trump has to win by a landslide to maintain legitimacy, so the goal is to make “peace” from Democrat-run criminals the threat hanging over everyone. It’s a disgrace. But it might work. Get involved.

      CorkyAgain in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 25, 2020 at 8:20 pm

      I saw an article on a newsite today (forget which one) that said voters are evenly split on the question “Which of the two parties do you trust to be able to deal with the riots?”

      Blacks and Hispanics who responded to the poll overwhelmingly favored the Democrats. Otherwise the split was close to 50-50 for all other demographic categories (except, of course, party affiliation.)

      The mind boggles.

      OwenKellogg-Engineer in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 25, 2020 at 9:58 pm

      “The unstated platform of the Democratic Party is ‘the rioters and terrorists work for us. We fund them and organize them. If you vote for us, we will call them off’.”

      Welcome to organized crime disguised as ‘government’/Democrat Party. It worked for the National Socialists of Germany, all the way thru to the CCP today. That’s really all that Socialism/Communism is, just a violent front to enrich a select few at the cost of the many.

      JusticeDelivered in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | August 25, 2020 at 11:08 pm

      Peace at any cost always costs far more in the long run.

ScottTheEngineer | August 25, 2020 at 6:00 pm

When Benjamin Crump locked the child safety locks on the Dodge Durango while it was in the police impound lot to make it look like it was impossible for Jordan Vernon to have opened the doors is that considered a felony or a misdemeanor?

All that rioting and looting is sure to have an effect on law enforcement so that no black man will ever again be shot by the police in the future, regardless of the circumstances. For circumstances do not matter, we agree. Just don’t arrest a black man, let them be. Because, you see, no mayor, governor or other official will support the police doing their job, they guarantee.

2 thugs

They need to switch to rubber bullets or tasers. They should also start charging the people video taping these incidents. A lot of these videos seem staged to entrap the police officers.

Wow, no mincing words there — just a clear, crisp and, IMHO, accurate view of the facts and judgement of the events, FSs!

That puts the perps where they belong: on defense. Good for us that they lack anything substantive to securely rely on in that posture.

Now, crush ’em (lawfully, of course) — and with them, the infamy of it all!

    I don’t mince words about criminal conduct and never have. I was equally forceful about the antifa/BLM mobs using lasers to blind law enforcement. Looting, arson, vandalism, assault, and murder are not to be taken lightly. Wheeling around a teddy bear in a guillotine, however . . . . 😛

When the LEO with the legal authority to do so issues a lawful command the best course is to comply. Failure to comply will result in suboptimal outcomes.

It really is that simple. How many encounters between LEO and non -compliant individuals have resulted in a completely avoidable death just this year?

This gentleman, Mr Floyd in Minneapolis and Mr Brooks in Atlanta. All three refused to comply with LEO, all three actively resisted the officers efforts to arrest, handcuff and transport.

There seems to be something at work here where individuals believe they are not required to comply. Perhaps this stems from our decaying schools which for decades have allowed students to disrupt learning with outburst both verbal and physical with little to no consequences. Maybe our schools have conditioned folks that they are no consequences?

I hate waiting for all the facts. It limits all of ignorant speculation too much.

    Olinser in reply to Anchovy. | August 25, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    I think enough facts are out to make a judgement at this point:

    -Police were called out to a domestic violence call against him

    -This was a career criminal that had been arrested multiple times for physical assault and weapons charges

    -He currently had an active warrant for his arrest

    -He is on video physically fighting the police

    -The police attempted to taser him, and he continued fighting

    -I can’t make it out on the video I have seen, but you can CLEARLY hear one of the police officers yelling ‘drop the knife’.

    Literally nothing about this encounter suggests this was anything other than a career criminal scumbag who didn’t want to go back to jail and the police tried everything they could to subdue him before finally shooting him.

    I’ve said this over and over and over. If there were ACTUALLY some widespread scourge of evil racist police killing black men, you’d think they’d be able to find ONE SINGLE martyr that isn’t a thug criminal.

      CorkyAgain in reply to Olinser. | August 26, 2020 at 12:19 am

      By calling so much attention to these thug criminals and treating them as if they were typical representatives of their race, they’re ironically reinforcing the very stereotypes they’re protesting against.

So Antifa/BLM have their own minutemen to sortie? This is so “RICO” that something is up… is the concern that creating a true flash point is preventing police from mass riot suppression? A lot of hard working people ,their income, their business and property are being wasted if not offered as sacrifice to the mob.

Jacob Blake had an open arrest warrant.

He was facing up to 8 years for those charges.

Jacob Blake didn’t want to go back to jail. That’s why he fought the police. That’s why he refused to follow commands to stop.

Blake had a knife. He may have been reaching for a firearm.

Blake brought this on himself.

And as for the rioters……

It’s time to put them down. Mass arrests and jail time. And arsonists should be shot in the street. It’s a forcible felony that can justify deadly force.

I’m sure Milwaukee is going to burst, large violent black population

Make a shopping list of the essentials. Stock up and, if you haven’t lately, train up. Make sure the pantry is stocked with dry and canned goods. Make sure your generator works (you do have a generator that can power important appliances, don’t you?) and you have fuel for it. If you end up not needing the goods stash, that’s okay since it’ll keep for a long time. If you do need it, you’ll have it.
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What Republicans should do is to build their tv campaign upon scenes of black criminality and violence with warning that the same will happen to their neighborhoods if the Democrats win.

Where are these riots you talk of? My local newsreaders speak of “protests” and “demonstrations”. Can’t have too much Social Justice, don’t ya know.

This is going to be a classic self defense case.

Suspect Flees in fear of being attacked and injured or killed
Suspect Fires on attacker in self defense
Suspect flees to get away from other attackers
Suspect falls and can no longer flee
Multiple attackers attack him
1st Attacker tries to kick him in the head
2nd Attacker attacks him with a skateboard as a weapon and grabs his gun. Gun fires either by attacker pulling on gun barrel or suspect firing. Attacker killed
3rd armed attacker comes at him. Suspect fires at 3rd attacker blowing his gun arm to pieces.

If this is not a case of self defense, please explain to me why it is not.

He was fleeing from attackers in both cases.

Video shows Molotov cocktail being thrown at Kyle by the first guy to experience the second amendment in action. Second guy hits him with skateboard before taking one in the 10-ring. Third guy approaches with drawn gun and permanently loses use of right arm. All three cases are clear self-defense by attackers. I also understand that all three were felons, so guy who had handgun should see charges of felon in possession.

The following is graphic, but details the second scene quite well. Kyle tried to turn himself in as the po-po approached in armored vehicles but they clearly instructed him to just “get out of the street.” He wasn’t fleeing, he just went home.

Some of the above comments were sourced from other videos available on the web. If possible, when viewing these, save to your device so they can’t be scrubbed later on.

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/kenosha-riots-patriot-shoots-three-communists_gU4SEum5Y6kttUs.html

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