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George Floyd’s Brother Comes Out Against Defund the Police Movement

George Floyd’s Brother Comes Out Against Defund the Police Movement

“What I would like is for all police around America to get their jobs and do them the right way, the correct way. Innocent people shouldn’t have to die. You can do your job and still maintain respect for others.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA6jjuIHx3Y

Philonise Floyd, the brother of George Floyd, and family attorney Benjamin Crump came out against the #DefundThePolice movement on Fox News on Sunday.

From Fox News:

“What I would like is for all police around America to get their jobs and do them the right way, the correct way. Innocent people shouldn’t have to die,” Philonise Floyd said on “America’s News HQ.” “You can do your job and still maintain respect for others.”

Crump told Fox News that the family has not pushed to defund the police. Instead, the family has called for both sides to work on solutions “instead of supporting the abolition” of police:

“We want to try to work to say we need to do restructuring and we need to work together and in concert to try to solve this problem,” Crump explained. “This is not a black problem. This is not a white problem. This is an American problem, and the only way we can heal this country is by working together.”

“What we want is people from both sides of the aisle, people from communities of color, community partners, to get with law enforcement,” Crump explained, “so we don’t continue to have… black people being killed by the police unjustifiably and unnecessarily and senselessly, and nobody being held accountable.”

Fuzzy blogged on Sunday that the #DefundThePolice movement has gained more support from privileged white liberals.

HuffPo found that blacks “oppose it by a 20-point margin:”

. . . . Self-described liberals support defunding the police by a 13-point margin. But nearly every other ideological and demographic group opposes it. Democrats and Democratic leaners oppose it by a 4-percentage point margin, and Black Americans oppose it by a 20-point margin.

Stacey wrote about how Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said she thinks America “should ultimately abolish” the police:

While, ultimately, Cullors said she believes that law enforcement as we know it today should be abolished entirely, she acknowledged that the road to abolition could be a long one—that is why, she said, it needs to be taken step by step.

The first step, she said, would be significantly reducing funding to law enforcement bodies and redirecting that money into initiatives directly serving communities, including education, healthcare and community programming.

“We don’t disband law enforcement in just one day. That’s not logical,” she said.

“I think we should ultimately abolish [law enforcement],” Cullors said. “What we can do right now is drastically reduce law enforcement’s relationship to the community.”

[…]

“Policing and incarceration are part of a continuum. The policing is the first response and then incarceration is the last response. And these two systems rely on each other very, very deeply. We have to be working on getting rid of both systems,” she said.

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Wonder what they would suggest as a remedy for situations such as occurred in Atlanta? What are cops supposed to do when a person fights with cops, takes a weapon, flees and then attempts to use said weapon against the cops? What will the media armchair policemen say is a remedy or alternative was to resolve such?

    Char Char Binks in reply to stl. | June 16, 2020 at 1:20 am

    Offficer Slager was unjustly convicted in a nearly identical situation in South Carolina.

    The only proper course of action for any police officer is to never arrest a black perp.

    Milhouse in reply to stl. | June 17, 2020 at 11:19 am

    They say, correctly, that the situation should never have occurred, because the police shouldn’t have attempted to arrest the guy in the first place. He offered to walk to his sister’s house and sleep it off; they should have let him do that and not insisted on the breathalyzer. Then he would never have resisted, grabbed the weapon, or fled, and therefore there would have been no need to shoot him.

    The police could also have decided not to chase him, and just pick him up the next day. They had his address and his car. He was armed with a stolen taser, but unlikely to pose a danger to the general community.

    So while the shooting was justified, it was poor policing that created the situation. The same applies to the Tamir Rice shooting; it was definitely justified in the situation the cop was in, but he should not have been in that situation.

Well, here you have it: common sense.

Can’t have that, can we?

    Epstein did not commit suicide.

    Soros needs to be killed, as bin Laden was.

    tom_swift in reply to TheFineReport.com. | June 15, 2020 at 1:41 pm

    I didn’t see any sense in there, common or otherwise. Floyd wants the police to morph into unicorns or some such imaginary paragons, and Crump, being Crump, is only in it if he can make a buck.

    What would make sense (as it’s actually do-able and would benefit all parties) is for The Community to stop pretending that common violent thugs are in any sense heroic, to stop fighting the police and get in the damn car when they’ve been caught fair and square, to stay away from weapons they can’t handle, blah blah. In other words, give the dead-end victimhood narrative a rest, and start doing something useful. But neither Floyd nor Crump will ever say any such thing.

      The Floyds are being used as window dressing: to ‘pull back’ on the radical appearance of what the fascists running blm and antifa want.

      What they’re saying is sensible, but still suicidal in the end.

      We have to reset the narrative. Frankly, I don’t think the nation will ever be remotely the same – not in light of the events post-covid and riots and surrender of the country to radicals. Topping it off is the Supreme Court decision today protecting the most lunatic of transvestites in the workplace.

      JusticeDelivered in reply to tom_swift. | June 16, 2020 at 1:23 pm

      “Policing and incarceration are part of a continuum. The policing is the first response and then incarceration is the last response. And these two systems rely on each other very, very deeply. We have to be working on getting rid of both systems,”

      They are missing the root problem, stop breaking the law, then police will not be arresting them, and they won’t be in jail. The bottom line is that a culture of having many babies on welfare, piss poor child rearing, that is the root problem. Crooks in and out of jail because the subscribe to a degenerate culture.

      I have done a bit of research, and it looks like this is a family of criminals. Let’s be clear, criminal lives do not matter any near as much as productive, law abiding lives.

I’d believe him a bit more if he was not dealing with crump.

There was a time when local police were “standing down” and the KKK did their stuff. Many people (not the right people) paid a high price for that evil.

A voice of rational reason. #NoDiversity #NoWarlockJudgments

He knows that if the gangs take over the streets there are no rules in street justice

healthguyfsu | June 15, 2020 at 1:33 pm

Forgive my skepticism, but if the police are defunded, is there anyone left to sue?

Dantzig93101 | June 15, 2020 at 1:35 pm

Slightly off-topic, but has anyone been able to find either:

* The actual autopsy report commissioned by Mr. Crump and signed by Dr. Michael Baden (not Dr. Allecia Wilson, who seems to have done most of the talking). It might not be available, since it’s not a public record. But I haven’t found it.

* Direct quotes from Dr. Michael Baden stating his conclusions — not paraphrases, summaries, or hearsay about “what he said” from Dr. Wilson or Mr. Crump. I have not found those, either.

I did read the actual autopsy report from the Hennepin County medical examiner. It stated that Mr. Floyd had severe heart disease and potentially lethal blood levels of fentanyl in a couple of different molecular forms, as well as a fentanyl precursor chemical that drug dealers use to make fentanyl. If I were a lawyer (which I’m not), I would say the facts create reasonable doubt about any charge above negligent homicide.

    The Friendly Grizzly in reply to Dantzig93101. | June 15, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    It may rule out negligent homicide, but the verdict agains the officer may still be “guilty”. A “not guilty” verdict will lead to a second round of action from the savages.

      But the delay will be enough to arm and deploy riflemen to extinguish the rioters.

      It depends how honest the jury is. I know if I were on that jury I would be completely honest and not care what repercussions our verdict might have. Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Can 12 such people be found?

      (The one time I’ve been on a jury it was a med mal case, black female plaintiff against 2 doctors and a hospital. The jury of 6 included 2 black women, and one white woman who was an SPLC supporter. I thought I’d have to argue with at least some who’d want to give her something just out of sympathy and a feeling that the insurance can afford it, but to my pleasant surprise when we got in to the jury room and looked at each other we all agreed instantly that she had no case. The two alternates we still had, both black women, told us afterwards that they agreed with us.)

Paul Bahlin | June 15, 2020 at 1:42 pm

Since most of the law enforcement engagements that go bad, do so during up close and personal cuffing situations, why don’t we look at ways to distance the encounters. You could have the suspect cuff themselves. If they refuse to do so, then dart gun them, or net them. If they run, have a way to entangle their legs, all from, say 6 feet away. It seems like cuffs are straight out of the 17th century and part of the problem

    JusticeDelivered in reply to Paul Bahlin. | June 16, 2020 at 1:35 pm

    Hot lead poisoning would be more gratifying. We have 12% holding 88% hostage to their tantrums.

      Milhouse in reply to JusticeDelivered. | June 17, 2020 at 3:26 pm

      No, we don’t. We have less than 1% holding 99%+ hostage. That about half of that < 1% is concentrated among 12% while the other half is spread out among 88% doesn't change that. The 11.5% of decent black people isn't responsible for the < 0.5% of thugs hiding among them.

      It's just their misfortune that we can't instantly tell which are which, so we have to be cautious of all of them until we get more information about any given individual.

      The difference between a rational person and a racist is that the racist looks at any young black man whom he doesn't know and thinks "There's a significant chance that he's a violent criminal", and stops there. The rational person first evaluates the young man based on the context in which he's meeting him, rather than simply applying the general statistic, and then as he gets more information about him he modifies his picture accordingly. The general statistic remains valid, but almost the only circumstance in which it's useful is a chance and fleeting encounter on the street, where there's little extra useful information available, and no time in which to gather any.

Paul Bahlin | June 15, 2020 at 1:57 pm

Here’s another option. If you’re going to make an arrest, hold off until you have overwhelming backup. Another would be do not arrest until you have a K9 unit on scene. It just seems we’ve equipped LEOs with crappy tools and procedures that place shooting high up on a list with few if any options when things go dicey.

I think the bus left the gate a while back. The cause has been hijacked by the DNC, so you are getting what you wanted. 60 more years of keep blacks on the plantation.

“he first step, she said, would be significantly reducing funding to law enforcement bodies and redirecting that money into initiatives directly serving communities, including education, healthcare and community programming.”

Yea, that’s the ticket…….More Money to expand the funding of the Black Genocide by Planned Parenthood.

Mo Money has worked great in DC and Baltimore schools.

    MarkSmith in reply to MarkSmith. | June 15, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    From Backgenocide:

    Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America. Are we being targeted? Isn’t that genocide? We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population. If the current trend continues, by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant. Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a devout racist who created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women and others she deemed as undesirables of society? The founder of Planned Parenthood said, “Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated.” Is her vision being fulfilled today?

    JusticeDelivered in reply to MarkSmith. | June 16, 2020 at 1:44 pm

    Mo money is flushed into minority cesspools, making them stink even more.

No matter what the brownshirts in BLM and Antifa may like to believe, “defund the police” does not mean abolish the police and live in a Utopia of social workers and lavish social spending. “Defund the police” means replace the police with a new Stasi-like organization whose primary function is to go after “racists” (read: anyone who won’t bow the knee to our communist masters).

From now on, let dangerous felons get up and run away in case they might be on fentanyl or if they say the words “I can’t breathe.”

Also, back rubs.

Good for him! Although, the bell has already been rung. These are useless words designed to increase donations.

It’s amazing that the BLM group aren’t calling out Peggy Hubbard’s video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJfcCRDsblI

Let me know when someone comes out and says to not smoke meth and then resist being arrested.

I am trying to figure out why what this person thinks about a subject such as law enforcement, criminal justice or political philosophy is worth a story. He has no qualifications. No specific education or experience.

Is it because he is black and therefore speaks with unchallenged moral authority? Because the event happened and he was not there, did not participate in that event or even know what had happened until later?

    Char Char Binks in reply to Anchovy. | June 16, 2020 at 1:24 am

    He’s a lifetime member of The Special People Club.

    Milhouse in reply to Anchovy. | June 17, 2020 at 3:36 pm

    His opinion is relevant because it’s his brother in whose name these insane calls are coming. So his rejection of those calls is important information.

What is being lost here is how this is not a one way street for both the police and the black community have issues that need to be worked on. While the reforms needed to be taken by the police have been stated to death, what appears to be absent is the role of the black community. When one looks at the shootings of people by the police, the overwhelming majority of times these shootings occur while people are resisting arrest, refusing to obey a legitimate command from a police officer or making threatening actions, or fleeing from the police. It seems that there are some people who have an attitude of “You can’t do this to me” so they fight the arrest, refuse to comply, etc., all of which needlessly escalates the situation. If people would simply comply with the commands of the police and fight the issue in court using lawyers instead of trying to fight the issue on the street with the arresting officer, then far fewer people would be injured and much heartbreak could be avoided. Instead of people teaching their children to be fearful of the police, grossly overstating the threats of a police officer shooting them, etc., and instead teaching them to be respectful while complying with a policeman’s orders, then many shootings could be averted. The question I cannot get around is why no one is speaking to this obvious idea?

I suspect the Floyds and Crump now realize that the four officers were merely doing their jobs. Their interest now is money, and they’re going to get it from the city of Minneapolis. That’s what Crump does, he convinces families to hire him to sue governments then collects a third of the lucrative settlements. As for what happened, this is a good explanation of what most likely happened – https://medium.com/@gavrilodavid/why-derek-chauvin-may-get-off-his-murder-charge-2e2ad8d0911

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