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Horowitz v. Durham — Dispute Over Russiagate Conclusions

Horowitz v. Durham — Dispute Over Russiagate Conclusions

Durham’s team “advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”

U.S. Attorney for Connecticut John Durham, who is investigating the origins of the Russia-Trump collusion probe, disagreed with a few aspects of Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report released today.

“Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened,” said Durham.

Durham reminded everyone in his statement that his investigation is not as limited as Horowitz’s investigation.

Durham’s “investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S.”

Reports came out in October that Durham’s investigation has become “a full-fledged criminal investigation.”

The change in Durham’s investigation happened after he “uncovered new evidence” on a trip to Rome with Attorney General Bill Barr:

Barr reportedly told embassy officials in Italy that he “needed a conference room to meet high-level Italian security agents where he could be sure no one was listening in.”

A source in the Italian Ministry of Justice told The Daily Beast earlier this month that Barr and Durham were played a taped deposition made by Joseph Mifsud, the professor who allegedly told ex-Trump aide George Papadopoulos that the Russians had “dirt” on Hillary Clinton. Mifsud reportedly was explaining to investigators in the deposition why people would want to harm him, and why he needed police protection.

Papadopoulos has suggested he was connected with Mifsud as part of a setup orchestrated by intelligence agencies.

That distinction “means Durham can subpoena witnesses, file charges, and impanel fact-finding grand juries.”


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notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | December 9, 2019 at 2:37 pm

Ryan works for the “Huffington Post?”

Watch as the DEMS get many new ones ripped by:
Rep. Doug Collins: The ‘focus-group impeachment’ has no facts
Dec. 9, 2019

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | December 9, 2019 at 2:53 pm

Attorney General Bill Barr
“A clear abuse of FISA process”…

…Statement Following IG Review

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital. | December 9, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    Ace of Spades has this in a nut shell.

    hn Durham: I’m the One With the Prosecutorial Power and the Final Say, IG Obama Holdover: Word is, Barr and Durham are privately “furious” at Obama-appointee Horowitz for pulling a Comey — mistakes were made, no “intent,” case closed.

    IG Report Released

Horowitz is the boehner of inspector generals.

We all knew what he would have to say about anything would be the result of a COMPLETELY corrupt institution investigating itself.

Look for horowitz to retire, and suddenly buy a second house.

When people lose faith in the justice system nasty things happen.

What time is it dear?
It is 5.56 millimeters after midnight and getting darker, darling.

The fact Durham has come out with this is huge…Democrats should be hugely worried by his comments.

I think previously an IG’s report would have been the end of the story BUT because Barr and Durham have been making noises means for the first time ever Demicrats are in danger of being held accountable for their actions.

    oldgoat36 in reply to mailman. | December 9, 2019 at 6:41 pm

    Durham’s response to this, especially in light of how closed mouthed he has been through all this, is certainly telling. Durham made it sound as if indictments are coming soon. Both Barr and Durham have an entirely different take than the blind Horowitz has.
    It isn’t shocking that the waste of tax dollars which is the “IG”. Why did it take so long to come out with this whitewash report?

      rabidfox in reply to oldgoat36. | December 9, 2019 at 9:06 pm

      Bear in mind that the IG cannot compel testimony of anyone NOT in the government and that his report covered ONLY the FISA aspect not anything prior.

Years old news reports have debunked Horowitz’s report

NOTHING is going to happen. NOTHING ever happens to democrats. I’m breathing deeply. In through the nose, out through the mouth.

I fervently hope that on day #2 of Trump’s second term, he will pick up the phone and fire Horowitz. What a useless, spineless toad … or perhaps toady is a better word.

How can you say no political bias when the games that were played throughout DOJ/FBI and the communications that have been released show bias out the ying and yang.

You know—and I know—what really happened here. Horowitz is the ultimate swamp dweller and he covered up for his swamp dwelling cohorts. We sure wouldn’t want the department of the bureau to look bad, now would we?

Wray wrote a letter today to Horowitz about the IG report in which he said, “Because our credibility and brand are central to fulfilling our mission … ” I almost choked on my corn flakes with that one. If any of those b-astards really cared about their “brand and credibility,” they would have fired and/or arrested a bunch of those guys. That would have sent out an unequivoccal signal that this kind of crap will not be tolerated. Instead, all we got was a bunch of stuff about processes and procedures.

Hey Wray and Horowitz — you guys are dirty. Stuff it! Your “brand” is a joke and you have Ø credibility.

The IG report sets the stage for the political battle.

When Barr and Durham proceed with indictments, the progs will be screaming from the rooftops, “But, but, BUT…the IG said that there no there there!!! This is all a plot by those damn radical right wingers!!!!!!”

Stand by for heavy rolls.

The most charitable explanation of Horowitz conclusions is that he didn’t want the lower tier punished for the directions given by top tier personnel.

I wonder why is there a position such as the IG when we have seen through numerous iterations of these type of reports and despite finding all kinds of problems, there were no “real” problems.
If there is to be an investigation into a body of government, why would you have a person who makes their living from that same body, who has ties, who has a vested interest in presenting that organization in the best light possible, doing the investigation?
Horowitz didn’t disappoint. This is the usual blind as a bat reporting he gave in prior instances. No political bias, mainly because those who were doing these deeds said they have a “higher honor”, so, OK then, you look good…
There is no justification for the lame conclusions that Horowitz continually gives.
He is the one to assign intent to wrong doing, and by golly, the guilty party said they didn’t know, so gee, despite all the facts uncovered which say otherwise, they are pure.
Horowitz is our tax dollars at work. For a report that is a whitewashing that had been delayed for months on end that ends with the conclusion that despite the evidence to say the sky is blue, sorry folks, it’s green with yellow stripes.

Anybody else like to know why a US Attorney made such a statement related to his ongoing criminal investigation?