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Rubio Takes Broward County to Task Over Ballot Counting Delay, Opening the Door to “Steal” a Senate Seat

Rubio Takes Broward County to Task Over Ballot Counting Delay, Opening the Door to “Steal” a Senate Seat

“#Broward election supervisors ongoing violation of #Florida law requiring timely reporting isn’t just annoying incompetence. It has opened the door for lawyers to come here & try to steal a seat in the U.S. Senate & Florida Cabinet”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLglKlbEq5I&feature=youtu.be

The Florida Senate race is in the midst of a recount, with a looming deadline of November 10th.

And you would know that Broward County, the same county under fire for numerous issues surrounding the Parkland school shooting, is also embroiled in what appears to be a blatant attempt to scratch up votes.

So bad is the situation, that Senator Rubio accused Broward County officials of creating a scenario where a Senate seat could be stolen.

More on Brenda Snipes, the Broward County Board of Elections Supervisor from National Review:

Brenda Snipes, the Broward County Board of Elections Supervisor previously convicted for illegally destroying ballots, is once again under scrutiny for her questionable handling of Tuesday’s elections.

Snipes has so far refused to disclose the number of Broward County ballots that have yet to be counted more than 40 hours after the polls closed, in possible violation of Florida law, which requires timely reporting of vote counts.

A local ABC affiliate recounted its reporter’s confrontation with Snipes:

“Could I please get a moment to go into the room and find out?” Snipes asked the group huddled around her. “OK, when I come back I’ll let you know.”

“But, Dr. Snipes, it is now Thursday,” Weinsier said. “We are still counting ballots in Broward County.”

“We’re counting five pages or six pages for each of the people who voted,” Snipes said.

“But other counties have been able to do it,” Weinsier said.

“But other counties didn’t have 600,000 votes out there,” Snipes shot back.

“Well, Miami-Dade did,” Weinsier said.

“Well, have you been inside my — never mind, let me go check. I’ll check,” Snipes said.

“But it’s a serious issue. It always seems like…” Weinsier said before Snipes interrupted him.

“It’s a serious issue with me,” she told him. “I’ve been doing this now since Oct. 22.”

“But if it’s a serious issue with you…” Weinsier said, only to be interrupted again.

“We ran 22 sites, we ran 14 days, we ran 12 hours, we had a big vote by mail (during early voting), so don’t try to turn it around to make it seem like I’m making comedy out of this,” Snipes replied.

A judge ruled in 2016 that Snipes violated federal election law by prematurely destroying ballots from a congressional race that were relevant to an outstanding lawsuit against her office. As a result, the Florida Department of State said elections experts would be dispatched to monitor Snipes’s office in future elections to “ensure that all laws are followed.”

Snipes was once again chastised by the court in February of this year after the state’s Republican party sued her for opening mail-in ballots before the Board of Elections had the opportunity to examine the ballots and determine their authenticity.

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in a nation of laws, she would have been in prison years ago…

supposedly, we now have an AG, so where is the DOJ, and why haven’t they seized everything already?

    Milhouse in reply to redc1c4. | November 8, 2018 at 10:20 pm

    It’s a matter for state law. None of DOJ’s business.

      dystopia in reply to Milhouse. | November 9, 2018 at 7:17 am

      Not quite true. Federal Courts do intervene at times. See Bush v Gore. When the fundamental fairness of an election rises to a level of possible deprivation of Constitutional rights, Federal Courts can get involved in State elections.

      Typically, election-related lawsuits are brought in state court because election administration is a matter of state and local control. Occasionally, however, federal courts are called to review an election dispute in which a candidate or voters allege that the administration of the election resulted in an infringement of constitutionally protected rights. While nonintervention is the default in federal court, under certain rare circumstances federal courts have determined intervention to be appropriate. The federal judiciary has never, however, clearly established a test for determining when intervention is warranted

      Liberty Bell in reply to Milhouse. | November 9, 2018 at 7:27 am

      It is a matter of State Politics rather than State Law. See the 2004 theft of the Washington State Governorship from Republican Dino Rosssi. Rosssi was in the lead until an election supervisor in Kings County suddenly “discovered” thousands of ballots in the trunk of a car. Rossi lost a State Court challenge and declined to appeal citing the political makeup of the State Supreme Court.

      What is different here is that Broward and Palm Beach officials have to answer to Republican Attorney General Pam Bondi and a possible Federal corruption probe led by the FBI. Trump will not lie down like Bush.

      countrylaw in reply to Milhouse. | November 9, 2018 at 7:30 am

      The Senate race is a Federal matter. The Constitution states:

      “Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members”

      So if the Senate believes there has been fraud, it is perfectly free not to seat Bill Nelson and instead seat Rick Scott. Nelson would have to litigate in Federal Court. It is not clear that a District Court ruling would be binding on the United States Senate.

      The Democrats are playing with fire

      counsel in reply to Milhouse. | November 9, 2018 at 7:37 am

      Milhouse, your thinking is too narrow here. The United States Department of Justice routinely investigates and prosecuts corrupt acts of State Officials. The Federal Investigation would use the Hobbs Act and would be geared towards prosecuting corrupt election officials who supplied fraudulent ballots. This is routine and settled practice

      One overlooked factor in all of this is the role of Mitch McConnell. He has SOLE authority under the Constitution to determine if a Senator will be allowed to take office.

      Article 1 Section 5: “Section 5

      Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, “

      Milwaukee in reply to Milhouse. | November 9, 2018 at 6:51 pm

      IDK
      The DOJ with the Voting Rights Act seems to get into a lot of “local” stuff.

    Elzorro in reply to redc1c4. | November 9, 2018 at 5:44 am

    Throw out all Broward votes. Every last one. Arrest the democrat criminals. Send in the guard to quell the riots sure to come.

      counsel in reply to Elzorro. | November 9, 2018 at 11:58 am

      Palm Beach County has 264,902 registered Republicans and 276,328 Independents. There are 395,775 registered Democrats. So even in Palm Beach County Democrats are outnumbered by Republicans and Independents.

      When you vote in Palm Beach your driver’s license is scanned. You are then presented with a touch screen that displays your information. You then sign an electronic document. You scan your own ballot before you leave. Given that system, it should be easy for criminal investigators to uncover ballot fraud.

      Jail time.

    CaptTee in reply to redc1c4. | November 9, 2018 at 12:23 pm

    About the time you were writing your comments, Governor Scott (candidate for Senate) was holding a press conference listing all the laws Broward County was violating and announcing that he was sending in the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE). The FDLE is like a state version of the FBI with a lot more credibility than the FBI for investigating corruption!

    We need some automatic triggers for investigations of corruption, such as when a county takes twice as long as 50% of the other counties to report their votes or 50% longer than 75% of the counties.

    Also, when a Supervisor of Elections violates certain standards, they should be barred from ever holding public office in Florida again.

Why is she still running the operation? This is outrageous!

    Milhouse in reply to Yippy. | November 8, 2018 at 10:21 pm

    Because she’s elected.

      Olinser in reply to Milhouse. | November 8, 2018 at 11:16 pm

      She explicitly violated the law 2 years ago. She should have been prosecuted, removed from office, and as a felon prevented from holding office any more.

      What a shock she’s still fucking cheating. Why would she not? If she succeeds she steals a seat and gets a Democrat in. If she fails so what? They lost anyway and she faces zero consequences.

      Milwaukee in reply to Milhouse. | November 9, 2018 at 6:53 pm

      IDK
      The DOJ with the Voting Rights Act seems to get into a lot of “local” stuff. And suddenly Federal laws are violated.

Meanwhile, the effort to steal the Arizona seat appears to be succeeding.

By any means necessary.

Dammit! Why didn’t I get a career in gov’t??? I could be doing whatever the hell I want, and never get in trouble!

Wait, right after the 2016 elections Trump complained about vote rigging and Rubio along with the other deep-state NeverTrumpers said that it’s impossible. They helped scuttle Trump’s commission on voter fraud.

Will Rubio admit he’s a dumbass for not doing anything in 2016? Of course not! The ruling class is never held responsible for their failures.

    cucho in reply to mrboxty. | November 9, 2018 at 5:56 am

    Yup, Little Marco was more likely complicit in the attempted sabotage of Trumps’ campaign and presidency, so screw him.

Its always interesting that these vote-tabulation problems, vote-counting problems and ballot-finding situations always seem to occur in Democrat dominated counties. It might be time for the Governor to empanel a state-wide grand jury to look into election problems in the state of Florida.

    alaskabob in reply to Mac45. | November 8, 2018 at 9:48 pm

    Not if Gillum wins. How else can the Dems compensate for the voter fraud they project on their opponents?

    We are dealing with a mindset that is unfathomable. Maybe a binge of meth, alcohol and sleep deprivation can readjust my mind to think like theirs. I agree with Michael Savage… it is a mental illness. Look at the planned impeachment hearings for Trump and Kavanaugh.

    mrboxty in reply to Mac45. | November 9, 2018 at 10:58 am

    There is no magic dirt. When you invite the third world in then all your institutions will soon become third world.

How much more will it take, how many more examples of blatant corruption and misconduct will be required before the only clear solution becomes complete removal of every Broward county official accompanied by criminal charges?

    MarkS in reply to Sian. | November 8, 2018 at 10:05 pm

    It will continue until Trump orders the FBI to clean it up

      Milhouse in reply to MarkS. | November 8, 2018 at 10:23 pm

      How is it a matter for the FBI? Where’s the federal crime?

        sidebar in reply to Milhouse. | November 9, 2018 at 1:06 pm

        Where is the Federal Crime? It is now accepted and settled that public corruption cases involving State Officials can be prosecuted as Federal crimes. Indictments often fall under the aegis of 18 U.S.C. § 1951, 18 U.S.C. § 371, 18 U.S.C. § 201, 18 U.S.C. § 666, 18 U.S.C. § 1346.

        So yes, without a doubt State Election Fraud can be federally prosecuted.

        Milwaukee in reply to Milhouse. | November 9, 2018 at 6:55 pm

        IDK
        The DOJ with the Voting Rights Act seems to get into a lot of “local” stuff. And suddenly Federal laws are violated.

      CaptTee in reply to MarkS. | November 9, 2018 at 12:33 pm

      Governor Scott ordered in the the FDLE before you made your comment.
      They clearly violated reporting laws in a way that would enable cheating.
      The laws need more teeth in them.

Eastwood Ravine | November 8, 2018 at 10:07 pm

Can the Senate refuse to seat a person of the year stole an election? That’s what I’m wondering.

    Eastwood Ravine in reply to Eastwood Ravine. | November 8, 2018 at 10:10 pm

    Why can’t we have a feature on this site where we can edit our comments after posting? My comment above was meant to be …if that person stole an election.

    “Each house shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members”, so yes. But a resolution not to seat Nelson would probably be subject to filibuster.

      CaptTee in reply to Milhouse. | November 9, 2018 at 12:35 pm

      Didn’t the Democrats do away with the Filibuster?

      If Milhouse had two brain cells functional, he would realize that a filibuster is NOT a legal requirement, nor mentioned in the Constitution. It has ZERO bearing on this matter.

        Milhouse in reply to SDN. | November 11, 2018 at 3:39 am

        The filibuster is a rule of the senate, which is the body that would have to pass a resolution not to seat Nelson.

Stop or we shall chastise you again!

Rubio is impotent.

    mailman in reply to Fen. | November 9, 2018 at 4:47 am

    The guy might as well write a harshly worded letter ending it with “or else” for fucks sake.

    American Human in reply to Fen. | November 9, 2018 at 10:09 am

    I was thinking a similar thing but along the lines of Monty Python: “Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time-ah”

How the fuck does this kind of shit CONTINUE to happen?!?!

I really am flabbergasted that fraud is still playing a role in American politics…and isn’t it funny how all these questions of fraud seemingly only ever go one way (kind of like all those errors in climate science only ever happen in one direction!!).

The Democrats believe “every vote should be counted” until their candidate is ahead. Every vote includes fraudulent votes that may be “suddenly” discovered.