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Kavanaugh Accuser Comes Forward (Updates)

Kavanaugh Accuser Comes Forward (Updates)

Significant discrepancies in her story already revealed, but will Republicans bow to pressure to delay the confirmation vote?

https://youtu.be/oxVl3NWMwr8

I told you Friday night that the attempt to derail Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination with a post-hearing accusation was not over.

I expected a cameo appearance by Gloria Allred at a press conference this week with the accuser, but it didn’t take that long and it wasn’t Allred.

The Washington Post broke the story, which it has had since July:

Earlier this summer, Christine Blasey Ford wrote a confidential letter to a senior Democratic lawmaker alleging that Supreme Court nominee Brett M. Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her more than three decades ago, when they were high school students in suburban Maryland. Since Wednesday, she has watched as that bare-bones version of her story became public without her name or her consent, drawing a blanket denial from Kavanaugh and roiling a nomination that just days ago seemed all but certain to succeed.

Now, Ford has decided that if her story is going to be told, she wants to be the one to tell it.

Speaking publicly for the first time, Ford said that one summer in the early 1980s, Kavanaugh and a friend — both “stumbling drunk,” Ford alleges — corralled her into a bedroom during a gathering of teenagers at a house in Montgomery County.

While his friend watched, she said, Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed on her back and groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it. When she tried to scream, she said, he put his hand over her mouth.

“I thought he might inadvertently kill me,” said Ford, now a 51-year-old research psychologist in northern California. “He was trying to attack me and remove my clothing.”

Ford said she was able to escape when Kavanaugh’s friend and classmate at Georgetown Preparatory School, Mark Judge, jumped on top of them, sending all three tumbling. She said she ran from the room, briefly locked herself in a bathroom and then fled the house.

For someone being portrayed as a very reluctant accuser, Ford contacted both the Post and her Congresswoman in July, though sought to get confidentiality commitments from them:

She contacted The Post through a tip line in early July, when it had become clear that Kavanaugh was on the shortlist of possible nominees to replace retiring justice Anthony M. Kennedy but before Trump announced his name publicly. A registered Democrat who has made small contributions to political organizations, she contacted her congresswoman, Democrat Anna G. Eshoo, around the same time. In late July, she sent a letter via Eshoo’s office to Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee.

It may be that she didn’t want to come forward, or it may be (and more likely to me) that if she came forward she needed to be portrayed as doing so reluctantly. Hence, the leak strategy of Feinstein and Democrats to make it seem as if she was compelled to come forward not of her own choosing. Leak to The Intercept and Buzzfeed that Feinstein forwarded a secret letter to the FBI, then let the DC leak system do it’s magic. Only step forward when you must, and then use that reluctance to build credibility for the story you didn’t tell for 30 years.

Here’s the key problem with the story — when she told it for the first time in 2012 during couples therapy there were four attackers, and she didn’t name Kavanaugh. This reluctant witness had the planning to get the therapists’ notes to explain the discrepancy when she came forward as to number of attackers:

Ford said she told no one of the incident in any detail until 2012, when she was in couples therapy with her husband. The therapist’s notes, portions of which were provided by Ford and reviewed by The Washington Post, do not mention Kavanaugh’s name but say she reported that she was attacked by students “from an elitist boys’ school” who went on to become “highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington.” The notes say four boys were involved, a discrepancy Ford says was an error on the therapist’s part. Ford said there were four boys at the party but only two in the room.

There will be enormous pressure on a small group of Republicans (Colling, Murkowski, Flake, Corker) to insist on a delay in the confirmation vote. That is, of course, the reason for the delayed leak of the accusations. It’s the Clarence Thomas strategy precisely, waiting until the hearings are over to reveal the accusation.

It’s worth noting that in addition to Kavanaugh, the other person allegedly present, Mike Judge, specifically denies this took place, as The Weekly Standard reported Friday:

The Kavanaugh classmate quoted in the New Yorker is Mark Judge, a writer in Washington, D.C. Judge spoke to THE WEEKLY STANDARD Friday afternoon, strongly denying that any such incident ever occurred. “It’s just absolutely nuts. I never saw Brett act that way,” Judge told TWS.

Judge says he first learned he was named in the letter during an interview with the New Yorker. “[Ronan Farrow] said: As you know, you’re named in the letter. And I did not know,” he said.

The Kavanaugh classmate told TWS that the New Yorker did not provide him the name of the woman alleging wrongdoing, a specific date of the alleged incident, or the location where the incident is alleged to have occurred. The woman alleging misconduct has requested that her identity be protected, according to media reports.

After Judge categorically denied ever witnessing an attempted assault by Kavanaugh, I asked him if he could recall any sort of rough-housing with a female student back in high school (an incident that might have been interpreted differently by parties involved). “I can’t. I can recall a lot of rough-housing with guys. It was an all-boys school, we would rough-house with each other,” he said said. “I don’t remember any of that stuff going on with girls.”

Judge says he still does not know the name of the woman who made the allegations.

Judge repeated his denial after the WaPo story revealed the accuser’s name and more details:

“Now that the anonymous person has been identified and has spoken to the press, I repeat my earlier statement that I have no recollection of any of the events described in today’s Post article or attributed to her letter”

Here’s a round up of reaction, which obviously is developing. We’ll keep updating, and I won’t have a more detailed discussion until some later point when I have time and the initial burst has settled into place. Keep checking back for updates.

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1041416700212797440

https://twitter.com/conncarroll/status/1041385237622730753

https://twitter.com/izzypele/status/1041415416113844224

https://twitter.com/Heminator/status/1041390920959229958

UPDATES

And Republicans lose Jeff Flake

And Bob Corker

I hadn’t focused on this sentence in the WaPo story until I heard someone on TV refer to the woman claiming she repressed the memory and it only came out under psychotherapy. If this is a “repressed memory” case, then it changes everything against the accuser’s veracity — repressed memory is of highly questionable admissibility and credibility. It also would explain why she could “pass” a lie detector test, she may believe it but she may be wrong:

“Years later, after going through psychotherapy, Ford said, she came to understand the incident as a trauma with lasting impact on her life.”

And, Dems are rejecting gathering more information quickly.

And Murkowski drops

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Is she sure it was Kavanaugh and not some scion of Joseph Kennedy? Sure sounds like one.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to RodFC. | September 16, 2018 at 6:49 pm

    It sounds to me like she is a head case.

    Similarities between far left liars, black liars, me too liars and their tactics are interesting, and I do not think they are coincidence.

    I have big problems with the left’s tendency crown persecute & prosecute people they do not like without any due process. It is inherent that large numbers of these cases will be false and unjust.

      Somebody at another site posted a sample of some comments her students had left on one of those “rate your professor” sites at a school she had once taught at (CA State Fullerton, IIRC). The students said she was nuts, and that others should avoid taking her classes.

      We know she’s a registered Democrat who has made financial contributions to a number of Democrat organizations.

      Her social media has now been scrubbed, probably to hide the fact that she’s a rabid anti-Trumper.

      Yeah, no reason to doubt her story at all.

      She has nothing to lose. Even if this doesn’t work, she will be a hero to the left, which is where she exists.

        maxtrue in reply to bw222. | September 17, 2018 at 12:11 am

        If the Democrats aren’t doing great in the polls by October expect Mueller to deliver a big report. There will be numerous allegations of dubious dealings all characterized by the same set of damning adjectives. There won’t be time to vet the report before the election yet Democrats will says that the similar claims throughout it reveal a sinister pattern and that this pattern makes it highly likely the claims are true and Trump committed some crime.

        A similar approach was used in obtaining FISA warrants but there the application claims can not be vetted and the various sources mentioned that revealed a corroborating pattern were planted by deep State and from the same dirty document.

        What the Democrats want is a delay until after the election.

        Why the over the top hysteria and tactics?

        To get a lot of people to organize and break the law, one needs a nuclear bomb in NYC moment. Under that logic a person could reasonable torture a conspirator to save a city. So by making Trump the greatest threat to Democracy, many people don’t care what the law is. They imagine they are saving America.

        McCain said in such an event, the law breaker should still be held to justice and that a jury must decide based on the facts whether they thought the interrogator acted reasonably.

        If the Deep State and Democrats think they are the jury, they have little fear.

        The second reason for the TDS is that by making Trump so radioactive they believe they can prevent the defection of Liberals that are alarmed by the direction of the party. There’s not even any good Liberal humor anymore.

        Trump should appoint an ancillary special investigator to handle how and when this “report” is delivered and require a period of time (with no leaking) for vetting to take place prior to its release. Does Mueller decide the timing?

        Republicans are foolish to think that EVERYTHING isn’t being orchestrated until the election. There is a conspiracy within the Republican party to subvert the populist direction. Its a shame that Brietbart is anticipating the “resistance’s” next move while Trump’s inner circle appears less pro-active. As someone here has already stated, it is absurd this kind of predictable bullshit should be allowed be come center stage. I don’t however think Democrats win any points with Independents.

        As for a lie detector test, the Castanza rule applies. If you can convince yourself to believe it true then its true. The accuser seems a perfect candidate.

        As a Liberal, is saddens me to see how Democrats have lost their way. Xi and Putin must be very impressed.

Humphrey's Executor | September 16, 2018 at 5:36 pm

First they Bork you then they Thomas you.

    ..and now, apparently, they Kavanaugh you. Our system is a disgrace. I am absolutely sickened by this.

      Juba Doobai! in reply to Anonamom. | September 16, 2018 at 7:12 pm

      The Senate Judiciary Committee needs to adopt a rule that would allow for stuff like this to be disregarded. If potentially disqualifying allegations against the nominee cannot be made during the televised and open questioning session by the Committee, thus giving the nominee an opportunity to answer and face his accuser, they should not be entertained at all. Anybody raising such after the open session should be sanctioned by the committee and the Senate itself.

        I’d go further than that. If the accusation concerns an incident that occurred more than 10 years ago, the complaining witness will not be heard at all unless they have either photos, videotape, or a contemporaneous police report detailing the incident.

        No more of this “he did this awful thing to me 20 or 30 or 40 years ago, and I can’t remember exactly when it happened, or exactly where it happened, and I’m fuzzy on a lot of the details of how it happened, and I have no corroborating evidence that shows it happened, but trust me, it happened and it should disqualify this person!”

          Edward in reply to Observer. | September 17, 2018 at 6:59 am

          And I took a polygraph test which showed beyond a shadow of a doubt that I was telling the truth. The polygraph is so perfected that the courts will allow it as an absolute proof of guilt or innocence Real Soon Now. And the polygraph was administered by a former FBI Special Agent which adds the unassailable reputation of the FBI.

Bow to nothing. The Dem party is trash. Treat them accordingly. Hold the vote.

This isn’t a stunt to stop it. It’s a stunt to command even greater numbers of votes from suburban females in November. I suspect they hope the nomination continues. It gives them a more volatile controversy to ride for end of September and through October. And much of the media has proven they are 120% on board to help. MSNBC and CNN are already crafting chyrons…..(sarcasm on that last bit).

    This is certainly a large part of it. Another part is shoring up Feinstein with the leftists in California so she can hold off DeLeon.

    But if the Republicans cave, and it’s far from certain that they won’t, the Democrats will certainly take it, and dance the foxtrot on Kavanaugh’s metaphorical grave.

      DieJustAsHappy in reply to Evan3457. | September 16, 2018 at 6:52 pm

      Kavanaugh could well be done, sadly. What Democrat would dare vote for him now? What of Republicans in vulnerable races? What of Collins and Murkowski?

      According to an update to this article, Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) thinks there ought to be a delay to a vote. What has been a very politicized process now is off the charts!

        Don’t forget that Thomas was confirmed Sen. Dixon (D-Ill) voted for him.

        I doubt that when push comes to shove any Republicans will defect and some Dems will because their constituents don’t believe her.

        I think that the backlash for the red state dems will be significant. This is going to tick off lots of people, both independents and the type of democrats who voted for Trump because they are sick of the corruptocrats in both parties.

        It will be an anger that won’t really resonate in the polls, but rather an increased desire to vote the bums out. I think it would be fatal in Alaska and Montana.

        Even if they manage to delay the vote, I think the residual anger could cause this to be a pyrrhic victory for the Dems at the midterm.

        There is a very, very good reason that Flake has lived up to the implication of his name.

I thought these were some creative touches. She had a one piece swimsuit under her clothes but Kavanaugh was supposedly going to rape her and possibly murder her, but then his friend Mr. Judge jumped on top of Kavanaugh and they both tumbled off and she was able to get away.

    There was another detail that jumped out at me. In the reports I read on Friday, it was claimed that the woman said Kavanaugh had turned up the music in the room to cover her screams right before he attacked her. But in the WaPo version published today, it just says that music was playing loudly and that the girl tried to yell, but Kavanaugh covered her mouth with his hand.

    The WaPo story also says that the woman said the party was in a downstairs family room. She left the party to go upstairs to use the bathroom, and that’s when she was pushed into the bedroom with Kavanaugh and Judge. So if Kavanaugh and Judge and the girl are all upstairs in the bedroom, then how did Kavanaugh turn up the music, which was presumably playing downstairs in the family room where the party was happening?

      Juba Doobai! in reply to Observer. | September 16, 2018 at 7:17 pm

      She also said the party consisted of four boys. Who were the other three girls? How did she come to be of that party? For a group of four guys to have a small party like that with four girls it must be because the guys are dating the girls or know for a fact the girls will put out or because it’s eight friends just having a social evening together. I don’t believe this woman. Kavanaugh has too much pride in the women in his life; that kind of man doesn’t appear over night. He’s made how he is from young.

      Yes, we all know the story is lame and a lie. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. It doesn’t matter. The left has degenerated to the point where they just don’t care.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to FenelonSpoke. | September 16, 2018 at 7:02 pm

    To be or not to be a MeToo liar.

    The swimsuit detail seems out of place to me. Had she just come from the YWCA, school swim practice, or was it to be a swim party? Was there a pool at the house where the party was held?

Sounds very orchestrated for maximum impact. The fact that she and those who knew of her allegation waited until now stinks worse that Limburger.

Have incidents such as this happened? Indeed, they have. Did they happen as Christine Blasey Ford asserts? I have grave doubts.

It seems that every twist and turn in the roadway of this administration the opposition continues its campaign to delegitimatize whatever they can.

There are still many things to come out. Mike Cernovich claims her social media accounts were scrubberd. Something he said makes me think he knew of this ahead of the announcement and hopefully kept some proof of her accounts.

I did manange to find one cached page. ( From Bing, couldn’t find it on Google–wonder why).
http:/cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=crisssea+twitter&d=4514274443923894&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=0EDKYXCvNRYE2q6hHLnC34EIAxQTbdrg

Not very damming, but it is not the most upto date version of the page, and it does show a strong antiTrump bias. If it is her, I hope that someone on the committee subpoenas twitter for that account.

In the meantime, I’m pretty certain this is her rating as a professor
https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1352705
Not very good, but I come away with two things:
first is that she is in a MSW department. I have no idea what M stands for but SW stands for Social Work. She also taught her students about “empowerment” and there is really only one group that uses that word. So we do have some idea of her leanings.

Maybe Leslie can find out more.

    02sbxstr in reply to RodFC. | September 16, 2018 at 6:18 pm

    “accounts were scrubberd” What does this mean? Cant you guys proofread?

      Are you trying to be funny?

      userpen in reply to 02sbxstr. | September 16, 2018 at 7:14 pm

      “Cant you guys proofread?”

      Yes we can. A quick proofread shows you misspelled “can’t”.

      tom_swift in reply to 02sbxstr. | September 16, 2018 at 8:18 pm

      Yes, I’ve long thought the cavalier attitude to typing we so often see here is a professional failing. If it’s worth posting, it’s worth posting in coherent form.

      In contrast, most commenters do a decent job, especially considering that there’s no “edit” function. It shows some respect for other readers and their time.

        Tom, if you see typos or anything else that you think needs to be corrected in our posts, please let us know. Have we really posted anything incoherent? I’ve spotted a few “it’s” for “its” and the like, but that happens everywhere. We do work hard to ensure that our posts are error-free, but we also work under time constraints (we don’t have days or even hours to fine-tune our work, so the odd typo is bound to sneak through). We are more than happy to correct errors that slip through and to thank our readers for letting know about them. I know I have personally done so at least twice over the years when readers pointed out a typo in one of my posts.

        As to the editing of comments by readers, we can’t just add an “edit” function because the platform doesn’t seem to accommodate it. As the prof has explained repeatedly, the only way to get an edit function for commenters is to adopt an outside comment platform (like Disqus, etc.) that allows for this. We are not looking into doing this at this time.

        Personally, I don’t let typos and such bother me too much in comments because I don’t think of them as you do; I see LI comments more like a fun chat with awesome people over a beer or appletini at a local eatery. I do see your point, though I would add that not everyone spends the same amount of time here or invests quite so much in commenting that they are stressing about how their comments are proofread by others. It’s all good, though, because I am sure that no one means to disrespect anyone by accidentally misspelling a word or forgetting a comma.

      02sbxstr….Ain’t you got a dictionary, son????
      SCRUBBERD is a past tense action verb. I’ll use it a sentence.

      The boy grabbed aholt of his media and scrubberd the muck off !

      (I’m always happy to help)

I think the story credible. But only credible as a story – it could have happened. But if this was to have been considered, it should have been considered by the committee, and DiFi should have turned it over for its consideration. It is now too late for consideration, if only because DiFi had it and didn’t submit it (use it or lose it).

Whether or not the story is true or not is another matter. A matter well beyond anyone’s ability to determine at this point. And even if true, the Dems have told so many scurrilous lies about so many people associated with the administration that no story deserves to be believed, because they have made it impossible to evaluate which of their stories are true (if any) and which are false (Russian collusion). As they have destroyed the meanings of words like “Nazi” and “racist,” so too they have cheapened the coin of truth.

Where is the Jacobin? I figure he would be jumping up and down over this. Same with Milhouse.

The stories of the Dem. heros Kennedy/Dobbs and the waitress sandwich, come on.

“A writer once noted: ‘Ted Kennedy born and bred to act like the last of the Regency rakes: to be a boor when it pleases him, to take what he wants, to treat women as score markers in the game of sexual sport and to revel in high stakes risks.’ “

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1209313/Ted-Kennedy-The-Senator-Sleaze-drunk-sexual-bully–left-young-woman-die.html

And Feinstein said:

“She described Senator Ted Kennedy, who left a woman to die and groped and molested many women, as a “inspiration and a friend.”

Okay, so she’s a left wing partisan who also happens to be a research psychologist. When it comes to credibility, she’s already lost me. And now she claims this caused psychological damage for her entire life but she only spoke up 6 years ago?

Sorry honey… you probably should have just kept your mouth shut. Just about anyone is going to appear to be more credible than you are.

    Edward in reply to Sanddog. | September 17, 2018 at 7:33 am

    I don’t know if she simply alluded to this having been a repressed memory which was recovered in therapy or if she actually stated it was a recovered repressed memory. Either way, we’ve seen the results of recovered repressed memories before. The people totally believe what they “remember” is true, but the McMartin family of California daycare infamy, and others, can attest to the degree of damage false recovered memories cause.

One question, among many, which begs to be asked: Had Brett Kavanaugh not been nominated to be a Supreme Court Associate Justice would she have ever pursued the matter?

This doesn’t disqualify her story, yet it does raise an issue of the intensity she might be making in its telling.

    She didn’t care when he worked for Ken Starr.
    She didn’t care when he worked for the Bush admin.
    She didn’t care when he was nominated to the DC court of appeals.
    She didn’t mention him by name as one of the four young men she accused while going through couples therapy.

    She had 3 decades to take care of this shit and she waited until he was nominated to SCOTUS. That tells me she’s lying about what actually happened and who was involved. Contrary to what the feminists say, Women DO lie and they will lie about anything and everything.

      DieJustAsHappy in reply to Sanddog. | September 16, 2018 at 7:03 pm

      One account, I think it’s in The Washington Post, has her saying, to her husband(?), she was concerned that one day he might be nominated for the Supreme Court.

      I know that, because the news related to the Catholic Church and sexual abuse by priests, it can sometimes take years before there is a coming to terms with what took place. However, from what I read of Ford’s exchanges with her husband, therapist, and friends, this is no a woman who was in denial. So, the fact that this confrontation is only now taking place in high suspect.

      Here, I turn to a question posed by rick Moran: “The question for senators is whether this incident — if true in all respects — should disqualify Kavanaugh from serving.” See article: https://pjmedia.com/trending/kavanaugh-accuser-comes-forward/

        healthguyfsu in reply to DieJustAsHappy. | September 16, 2018 at 8:33 pm

        That account doesn’t pass the smell test. The account as you say claims she is worried about him getting to the Supreme Court, but she doesn’t want to come forward because of backlash? So, she reportedly plans to wait until he is at the steps of the court to come forward? Utter fallacy.

        Which should tell you what complete bullshit this is.

        She allegedly said this in 2013.

        So she thought OBAMA was going to make him a Supreme Court judge? That makes less than zero sense.

      tom_swift in reply to Sanddog. | September 16, 2018 at 8:25 pm

      Women DO lie and they will lie about anything and everything.

      Indeed they do. This is one of the great secrets of civilization. One of those “hide in plain sight” deals.

      Evan3457 in reply to Sanddog. | September 16, 2018 at 9:02 pm

      Moreso, Kavanaugh was appoints as a Appeals Court Judge in 2006, which means he was there for 2 years under President Bush, the president that appointed him, and might have appointed him to the Supreme Court if an opening had occurred, and she wasn’t concerned enough then to come forward and accuse him.

      But 4-5 years later, when Barack Obama, who never would have appointed him to the Supreme Court was the President, all of a sudden she becomes concerned. But she still doesn’t come forward and accuse him.

      In 2016, when every thinks Hillary, who never would appoint Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, is going to win…maybe she’s still concerned, maybe she isn’t, but she still doesn’t come forward to accuse him.

      In July, after he is nominated, she comes forward anonymously, and when the Democrats throw the kitchen sink at Kavanaugh and it doesn’t work, only then does she come forward openly (just like Anita Hill, come to think of it).

      That’s an interesting roller coaster of concern, if you ask me. And by “interesting”, I mean highly questionable.

    KakarotWasTaken in reply to DieJustAsHappy. | September 16, 2018 at 6:59 pm

    The cynic in me wonders “how long until the book comes out”.

      I would think that any proceeds from a book would be swallowed up by a libel/slander lawsuit. They are fighting the Oberlin case with vigor because a loss means that it won’t be possible to shout “racist” in the future without potential consequences. So this accuser similarly needs to have her allegations tested in a court of law.

        Judge Kavanaugh would qualify as a “Public figure” and isn’t likely to make any headway if he were to file suit. OTOH, I read she only called Mike Judge “his friend” or “Kavanaugh’s friend”, with the WaPo supplying the name Mike Judge. Now Judge could file suit, but she apparently didn’t name him and newspapers have much more latitude with regard to defamation, libel, etc.

          healthguyfsu in reply to Edward. | September 16, 2018 at 8:36 pm

          It’s Mark Judge and a typo in the article.

          Mike Judge created Beavis and Butthead, Office Space, and Idiocracy.

          Edward in reply to Edward. | September 17, 2018 at 7:27 am

          Thank you for the correction healthguy at FSU. If the article is incorrect then I’ve never heard of Mike Judge. I have heard of the name Beavis and Butthead. I don’t know if it is a newspaper cartoon, a movie or whatever but judge from the title that I’m far too old to be entertained by it. I’ve never heard of the other two cartoons or whatever they are.

A research psychologist, with a therapist, with marital issues. Plus characteristic political and social leanings. And peri-menopausal to boot. Nothing to see here… move along.

I imagine the Dems are scouring the nation for one more woman to add to this. Repetitive behavior must be shown otherwise this falls short of critical evidence.

Having covered other similar stories… LI definitely be a go to site now! We’ve passed this way before.

    Yes and some were noting that caving on Roy Moore’s decades old allegations without actual evidence was a mistake which would cause a recurrence of that type of incident. Hey, it worked in Alabama, why not do it again when the area isn’t as friendly to Republicans as Alabama was.

      Barry in reply to Edward. | September 16, 2018 at 11:31 pm

      The progs/Marxists/communist will keep doing this until it doesn’t work, always aided by their handmaidens the neverTrumpers and the GOPe.

MaggotAtBroadAndWall | September 16, 2018 at 6:33 pm

As I said the other day, if she didn’t do SOMETHING at the time of the incident: file a police report; tell her school principal; teacher; parent; even a friend, etc. then its hard for me to believe she considered whatever happened very serious.

Suddenly, 40 years later she wants to derail a guy’s career and ruin his reputation? Vindictiveness. I bet after people dig into her history we’re going to find stuff she’d rather have not been made public.

    In the woke #metoo world, there are no shades of gray or life experiences that one brushes aside. It is all or none and none doesn’t exist. No slight is too small. She may firmly believe what she remembers but blown and altered way out of proportion. She does appear to have major issues that have needed working through.

    Vindictiveness.

    Yes, the almost universal vindictiveness of women. That’s the other great secret of civilization.

If this story is supposedly true, why didn’t this woman come forward when Kavanaugh was first nominated to the federal bench? A federal judgeship is still a huge deal — this woman had ample opportunity to come forward when Bush II nominated Kavanaugh to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, twelve years ago.

I can only add that, if Kavanaugh had only driven his car into a pond and callously abandoned the scene, leaving his female passenger to drown to death, he could have qualified to be a U.S. Senator and eventual “Lion of the Senate,” according to malleable, capricious and hypocritical Dumb-o-crat standards of morality, which are entirely predicated upon weighing a person’s political leanings and Party affiliation.

If Kavanaugh had simply used a cigar as a sex toy on a twenty-something-year-old intern, he would have qualified to be a revered Dumb-o-crat President.

If we had a normal Republican as President… Well, we wouldn’t have gotten this good of a nominee, but beside that, the probability of the Senate caving like a house of cards would be 99%.

With Trump, I’d put the odds at 50%. There seems to be the slightest hint of the occasional spine in the Republican party now.

    Only one or two need to Flake out. Kavanaugh is toast I’m afraid.

      Juba Doobai! in reply to Paul. | September 16, 2018 at 7:28 pm

      Pence is our tie-breaker. The Red State Dems are toast if they vote against Kavanaugh. That Diane Feinstein had this info since July and did not act on it during the hearing … that alone says the entire thing is BS. People are tired of Democrats and their politics of personal destruction.

      With this hit on Kavanaugh, intending to deter Trump from nominating more like him, the Democrats have guaranteed a red tsunami for the mid terms.

    Both Bushes and even Reagan caved to the Deems on Supreme C0urt picks (O’Connor, Kennedy, Souter, Roberts).

It is becoming harder and harder to consider these people fellow countrymen. It really is time for a divorce.

Bad news the Flake is waivering.
https://twitter.com/merovingians/status/1041457276354277379

Significant because he is on the Judiciary Committee.

    Arminius in reply to RodFC. | September 17, 2018 at 1:31 am

    I sent my Senator, Ted Cruz, an email asking him to confront Jeff Flake. Flakeyty Flakey Flake says he needs to hear more from the accuser before he’s “comfortable” voting for Kavanaugh. Just how much more time does he need to hear about a nearly 40 year old allegation that can’t possibly be proven or disproven? Two days, two weeks, another zillion documents, another ten years? Kavanaugh has had his background checked six times since appointed to the federal bench. There have been no issues. Kavanaugh has provided over 500,000 pages of documents and answered over 1000 written questions.

    Seriously, what more does he need to hear? And what’s wrong with you, Arizona, with your Senators that you put up with this bull***t? Why do you hate America?

This story has a slight aura of credibility but it can never be proven and probably can’t be disproved after this length of time. Further, if we are to judge everyone by what they did when they were drunk in high school there will be virtually no one who could be nominated. Ironically, the Democrats seem to have absolutely no problem with Keith Ellison, a man who has been demonstrated by contemporaneous police reports and other evidence to be a serial woman abuser as an adult. Obviously much more serious than anything Kavenaugh was accused of doing 36 years ago

    Arminius in reply to rangerjagc. | September 17, 2018 at 1:19 am

    “This story has a slight aura of credibility…”

    Why do you say that? The b**ch has been busy all weekend deleting her social media to hide what a leftist activist she’s been her entire adult life. Or at least since DJT has been elected.

    Here’s a prediction. If this doesn’t work they’ll find another one to lie about Kavanaugh. And if Trump were to be so stupid to withdraw thaw the nomination they will use this type of smear and lie the next time every single time. Because it works.

    gospace in reply to rangerjagc. | September 17, 2018 at 2:33 am

    This story doesn’t have the slight aura of credibility. It has the stench of pure unadulterated crap, like the stuff farmers spread on their fields at the start of growing season. The difference? The farmer’s crap is intended for good. Hers isn’t.

Why do I think that there are plenty of women (men?) who could legitimately #metoo Jeff Flake? Maybe it is time to go back in his past and find out why he’s such a player for the Dems?

Did anyone else note that the accusations agains t Judge Moore in Alabama seem to have gone away since he lost his run for Senate?

And Mark Judge categorically denies any memory of the incident.

I hope someone gets ruthless in cross-examining Kavanaugh’s accuser.

    Ragspierre in reply to Kepha H. | September 16, 2018 at 8:35 pm

    If you’re curious enough (to pretending to be) to ask the question, you should have done the inquiry.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/focus/tips/comment-page-163/#comment-878472

    Roy Moore is a lying POS. Kavanaugh is not (based on all available information).

      MarkSmith in reply to Ragspierre. | September 16, 2018 at 9:39 pm

      Ha and Trump won, too.

      The Jacobin: “Roy Moore is a lying POS. Kavanaugh is not (based on all available information)”

      Looks like you are ready to flip Kavanaugh, what are you waiting for?

      There was zero evidence Moore did anything he was accused of just as there is zero evidence in this case.

      Zero, nada, zilch. If you supported the unfounded allegations against Moore and you do not against Kavanaugh you are simply a supreme hypocrite.

        Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | September 17, 2018 at 6:30 am

        That’s a lie you’ve chanted for many months now. There was ample proof, including a catalog of lies by Moore and his wife.

        The people of Alabama…and the courts…know.

          Eat a shotgun you lying sack of shit.

          “That’s a lie you’ve chanted for many months now.”

          Words of a professional liar, “Ragspierre”.

          The reader will notice what “Ragspierre” will not do, provide the evidence. There is none, zero, nada, zilch. Just like here, just accusations.

          I’m not a Moore fan or supporter. But I am capable of discerning despicable tactics by the Marxists. I’m also capable of discerning who will support them and the lies they tell.

          “Ragspierre” claimed he donated to Moore’s campaign. Yet a couple years back he wrote negative comments about Moore (which I agree with). Just one lie after another. The donation lie was added to make his indignation seem real. Oh, and he claims yearbooks come out multiple times per year. Why? Because early on that would solve one of the riddles to the yearbook signing, the date. Not true of course, and the signing in twelve inks with Heinz varieties of handwriting might be a clue.

          “First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
          Because I was not a socialist.
          Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
          Because I was not a trade unionist.
          Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
          Because I was not a Jew.
          Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

          For “Ragspierre” we can add “Then they came for Moore, and I did not speak out-

          Liar and hypocrite.

This is what I meant when I said the GOP needed to toughen up.
If any of my representatives retreat one inch on this phony garbage, I’m going to treat them like the Russians treated deserters in WWII.

odd how a psychologist takes a polygraph which the american psychological association seems to dissuade the use of.
http://www.apa.org/research/action/polygraph.aspx

    Even stranger. Who was she trying to convince she was telling the truth?

    Arminius in reply to dmacleo. | September 17, 2018 at 3:12 am

    “The accuracy (i.e., validity) of polygraph testing has long been controversial. An underlying problem is theoretical: There is no evidence that any pattern of physiological reactions is unique to deception. An honest person may be nervous when answering truthfully and a dishonest person may be non-anxious. Also, there are few good studies that validate the ability of polygraph procedures to detect deception. As Dr. Saxe and Israeli psychologist Gershon Ben-Shahar (1999) note, “it may, in fact, be impossible to conduct a proper validity study.” In real-world situations, it’s very difficult to know what the truth is…”

    I failed my last polygraph as a defense contractor. I had forgotten to to mention my Japanese brother-in-law on my five year update. How did AFOSI (Air Force Office of Special Investigations) know about my brother-in-law? Because I had told the government about him on my previous SSBI five year update. You might think it’s an easy fix but imagine a cosmic DMV. It made no sense that they could accuse me of trying to hide his existence, but there it was.

    The problem (for me) was that since I had left active duty my clearance was no longer going to be maintained by the Navy but the Air Force since I was working on a USAF contract. I had lived for seven years in Japan in Naval service. Naval Criminal Investigative Service didn’t require us to report every foreign contact. Because we were living in f***ing Japan. If we filed a Foreign Contact Report every time we met a Japanese national NCIS could not have done anything else but file the reports. They discouraged this, as you might imagine. “Only report suspicious contacts.”

    But because I forgot to mention brother-in-law on the latest five year update, everything over the past seven years came under scrutiny.

    Do you know how jumpy that made me? That I had to now account for AFOSI for things that NCIS told me to forget about? The good thing, I suppose, is that the AFOSi examiners told me that since I had shown up for the polygraph it couldn’t be used against me for future employment. I’m like, I’d rather panhandle under a bridge than work for you again.

So this woman doesn’t remember when and where but professes to remember who after the who has been nominated to the SCt. Really? BS.

I can understand not remembering when, in terms of day, date but not of year. If the alleged event had such an impact on her life that she subjected herself to therapy even as a grown woman—gimme a bloody break! You’ve gotta be mentally unhinged for an event in which you were not hurt to impact your life to that extent—then the when, where, and who of it she should know stone cold. She should’ve named names at the outset, and did none of that.

What we have, folks, is another Democrat playing the sexual assault card to derail another Republican-nominated candidate for the SCt. I don’t know if Kavanaugh is RP, but after this, he sure won’t be voting Democrat anymore, if he ever did.

    Amazing how the sight of a conservative being elected or nominated to higher office makes liberals suddenly ‘remember’ things that supposedly happened during the Carter administration.

regulus arcturus | September 16, 2018 at 7:06 pm

Flake is a complete moron, and disgrace.

      MarkSmith in reply to Ragspierre. | September 16, 2018 at 8:27 pm

      Hey the Russian Jacobin bot is back.

      Well, the prof probably didn’t remove this particular comment because it was directed at Flake, not another LI commenter. I’m not sure, but I’m guessing that’s why since it’s the reason I’m not removing it, either.

      As the prof explained, non-cuddle party comments are a “you know it when you see it” distinction, but in this case, I concur with him that this is not a non-cuddle offense. Your comment, however, is not good. “That would be you” is effectively calling regulus what he called Flake, a definite no-no. I’m letting it stand, though, including the part where you call the prof, Kemberlee, Mary, and me (i.e. “the mods here”) “a joke,” so rejoice at our benevolence. 😉 [FS added because you seem to have misplaced your sense of humor in recent years; I’m just making a joke about your rejoicing in “our benevolence.” Heh.]

        Sorry Fuzzy, but Rags is correct – the moderation here is a joke. Almost every single day Rags pulls this shit, and you and the others go round and round with your bullshit “warnings”.

        He should have been banned over a year ago, but you guys continue to demonstrate that feckless conservative “spine” and subject the rest of us to this daily bullshit.

        Either ban Rags or shut up about him. This illusion that there is some standard here has shattered.

        And I’m no longer going to play by rules the mods won’t enforce.

          Barry in reply to Fen. | September 17, 2018 at 1:10 pm

          “Sorry Fuzzy, but Rags is correct…”

          Finally, thank the lord, I’ve found a point of disagreement with you Fen.

          “Ragspierre” is never correct.

          Fuzzy and the other “moderators” are not board police, they are contributors that occasionally wade into the comment section. To her credit, Fuzzy wades in fairly often, taking extreme abuse from certain unprincipled people.

          That they occasionally try to police a board with many active participants does not mean they are obligated to do so.

        For me, the “golden days” of blog commenting were when Power Line offered their forum before the original “biggest internet disaster since the big depression” where their files were hopelessly destroyed. There was zero tolerance for insulting, ignorant commenters.

        Threads were set aside to continue forever in a separate forum section that was organized by topic and title. The comments were generally very smart, witty, clever and civilized. Sure, there were disagreements but no vulgarity or psycho-posting that is inexplicably common at too many sites. Michelle Malkin gave it a go for years but finally dropped the commenting section.

        IMHO, if you want to step up the quality of the comments, make it worthwhile for smart, informed, civilized commenters. Intelligent, well-thought-out posts that often get “avalanched” by being cited across the blog spectrum attracts smart and informed readers. The comment section should reflect that. There is no reason to tolerate comments from nasty people with serious psychological problems. It’s not too much to ask. Treat is as you would an infection.

In her story, she says that the “Other” boys were drunk and had been drinking beer earlier in the day but that she only had one. How do we know that she only had one beer? Have you ever noticed that the drunker someone gets the more certain they are able to drive themselves home? She was 15 and they were 17 years old! Are we to take this incident and ruin lives forever even if partially true? When does the adult responsibility for your entire life start? !0, 12, 15, 17 years of age? Can you imagine the early life of bill clinton? Maxine Waters? Was there no responsibility on her part to have come forward back when it could be looked at in the context of age and circumstance? We know where the Dims will take this along with their allies the msm. But to learn that Flake has flaked again is too much. The man is a younger McCain!

It will be interesting to watch the show next time. If Trump has an opportunity to appoint someone else to the high court, he will probably nominate a woman. How the progs will respond should be quite a display.

    TX-rifraph in reply to DaveGinOly. | September 16, 2018 at 7:33 pm

    They will destroy her with classless zeal. HRC showed the dems how to do it when she enabled Bill and the media joined in.

    The dems defend leftist rapists and attack decades old drunk HS behavior. What was this women doing in the bedroom with a drunk HS male if it were not for some “activity?”

    tom_swift in reply to DaveGinOly. | September 16, 2018 at 8:53 pm

    he will probably nominate a woman.

    Damn, I hope not. If any public figure can break the back of this disastrous “identity politics” bullshit, it’s Donald Trump. I trust him to know the difference between relevant qualifications and fashionable virtue-signalling.

In January Jeff Flake will be on the payroll of CNN or MSNBC. I’ve read that he has been in contact with both.

Time to show who are upvoting and downvoting.

    Gremlin1974 in reply to Anchovy. | September 16, 2018 at 8:10 pm

    It has long been suspected by several of us here that there is at least one bot account that just randomly downvotes comments here, but since LI doesn’t really pay attention to them it’s not a big deal.

      tom_swift in reply to Gremlin1974. | September 16, 2018 at 8:33 pm

      Oh. And here I thought it was a loyal fan . . . to the extent that I’m mildly concerned about his health if I don’t get at least one “down”.

    No worries, Anchovy. We don’t use that as an indicator of anything as do most sites. In fact, you’ll note that the up and down votes aren’t even visible after a certain amount of time.

    Up and down votes here function to let commenters know what is working and what is not and to reflect on that if they are so inclined, to let people respond to comments without having to type anything, and to let people vent their personal antipathies or whatever. Otherwise, they are pretty meaningless, and as noted above, disappear after a certain amount of time. A bazillion downvotes won’t get you banned as they might at a site using algorithims and etc., so no worries! 🙂

      It’s a stupid metric that promotes an Appeal to Conformity, and passive-agressive too. You should consider ditching it, you’ve already granted that it has little redeeming value.

“It’s worth noting that in addition to Kavanaugh, the other person allegedly present, Mike Judge, specifically denies this took place,”

The following is what I have read about her “coming forth”:

It is even more worthwhile to note that apparently the woman only refers to Judge as Kavanaugh’s “friend”, she does not name him. The WaPo names Judge, but we aren’t told where they learned his name.

What does it tell us that she names a public figure, but avoids naming a normal citizen (who could certainly file suit while Judge Kavanaugh would be wasting his time to do so). OTOH, the WaPo has no such problems and provides Mike Judge as the un-named “friend”.

I’ve also read that she was a bit hazy about where and when this “party” with four boys took place. How many females were at this alleged drunken model of debauchery?

This entire thing is 100% B.S. Period. Screw the Dems and their conveniently timed faux-outrage and get to the vote.

Here’s how I see this…

1. The vote on confirmation should proceed on schedule

2. The floor vote should be held as scheduled

3. UNLESS a whip-count indicates the nomination is uncertain

4. Judge Kavanaugh should be put on hold if 3 (this guy is too good to let be Borked)

5. Sen. Feinstein should be brought before an ethics committee to answer for her conduct

6. As soon as the air clears…and it can be cleared…proceed to affirm Kavanaugh as a Supreme

The next headline after Kavanaugh is confirmed should be “McConnell removes Flake from all committee’s including Judiciary”

What would she have become if this never happened? Dr. Phil?

As for Flake, showing again he is fake. Enough with the virtue signalling.

Hope enough people are watching what’s going on.

I think she is confused, it was Bill Clinton she was talking about.

Whether this story is true or not, Ford gave Kavanaugh the perfect excuse for his actions; he was a “stumbling drunk” teenager. When people are intoxicated they do things which they would not do while sober. And, when people are in their teens, they do thins which they would never do in the 30s and 40s. As this does not appear to be a criminal offense of any magnitude AND, any criminal violation would be so minor that the statute of limitations has long expired, it is irrelevant.

Personally, I think that it is all contrived for political purposes. And, unless the video surfaces, it should be ignored.

So where was this at? Who provided the alcohol? Why was she at the party? Who invited her? Who were her friends? How does she know it was Kavanaugh? How did it ruin her life?

Why the fuck is Flake even ON a committee?

He’s a POS that shouldn’t have any role in anything. He’s quitting because he knows damn well he’d lose his primary BADLY.

If Gloria Allred is anywhere near this, we all know this is complete BS.

This just undermines the credibility of women in general.

If you are sexually abused, come out with it in a reasonable time frame, like within the year. Otherwise, sit down and shut up.

I turned up at least SIX victims in the SCA from their pedophile Knight, Sir Richard de Montbrai.

Do you know why there was a second victim? Because the first wouldn’t come forward.

Do you know why there was a third Victim? Because the first and second wouldn’t come forward.

On April 14th of last year, Jane Doe #5 took her own life. Do you know why she was a victim? Because the first four wouldn’t come forward.

There is no Party of Orwell. The Republicans aren’t bowing under pressure. A bunch of them are working with Progressives. So real Liberals should walk away and join the Republicans who are working with progressives. Koch is not much of an improvement on Soros.

There is only bowing to Liberal Principle which in this case tells us loudly that what is going on is wrong. As a Liberal I can tell you the only bipartisan effort Graham cares about after weeks of McCain glorification is damaging Trump, but more importantly the economic nationalism that challenges establishment power where Soros and Koch form a circle.

Its one giant uniparty isn’t it?

If the committee votes and is deadlocked what happens?

CNN has a clip of Susan Collins. While she seems a bit ambiguous she does seem to believe Kavanaugh. Mainly they try to ge her to say what should happen and she refuses to commit herself.

    gospace in reply to RodFC. | September 17, 2018 at 2:39 am

    Susan Collins voted to acquit Clinton on all impeachment charges. Her standards of proof seem extremely flexible. Accusations are proof against a Republican. Evidence isn’t proof against a Democrat.

Re: Corker and Flake:
THIS IS WHY RINOs ARE MORE DESTRUCTIVE THAN DEMOCRATS.
Do you get it now? Two Democrats wouldn’t be sitting on the GOP side, pretending to believe these absurd accusations.

These two pieces of shit are getting their parting shots in at Trump by screwing with his nominee. They don’t care that it’s harming the rest of the country in the process.

In each and every instance, the left pushes harder and further – and those on the right counsel us to keep a cool head and take the high road.

Pretty much about done with the high road myself – NOT TO BE EVEN REMOTELY CONSTRUED AS A THREAT OF ANY KIND AGAINST ANY PERSON, PLACE OR THING.

But if it ever got that ugly and the SHFT, Im SO READY for some payback.

It seems that’s what they are pushing for. The send their little brownshirt goose-stepping ANTIFA’s out to beat on people and destroy property, and the left wants to pat the poor misguided youth on their sweet little behinds and send them back to mommies basement unscathed.

DONE.

In response sixty five women who knew Kavanaugh in high school have signed a letter supporting him since this accusation appeared. Delaying the vote for this candidate because of this absurd accusation would be a crime by itself.

Color me shocked. Shocked, I say, that a Democrat activist would come up with this wickedness. This woman marched against PDT, and we are supposed to believe her that her memories of 30+ years ago are good. Maybe she was assaulted. Maybe it is true, but I doubt that it was Kavanaugh. Of course, the GOPe are delighted with this, and want to cave as they do on every possible occasion. VOTE THEM OUT!!!!

I think the real problem this accusation creates is that it gives Flake and the other fuckers an easy out to vote NO in the Senate.

They can just say that they weren’t happy with how the accusations were dealt with and couldn’t vote to confirm him with a clear conscious. Easy out for them.

Those three need to be replaced with 6 or 7 dependable Conservative Senators as that is the ONLY way you are going to get change through that will actually benefit ALL Americans instead of the special interest groups (note – who ever is the most aggrieved hate group) the Democrats anoint as being worthy of respect.

If you conservatives don’t get out and vote in November you will get EVERYTHING you deserve coming your way from the Democrats.

Sorry Fuzzy, but Rags is correct – the moderation here is a joke. Almost every single day Rags pulls this shit, and you and the others go round and round with your bullshit “warnings”.

He should have been banned over a year ago, but you guys continue to demonstrate that feckless conservative “spine” and subject the rest of us to this daily bullshit.

Either ban Rags or shut up about him. This illusion that there is some standard here has shattered.

And I’m no longer going to play by rules the mods won’t enforce.

    We do what we can, Fen. I happen to agree that Rags should have been banned long ago (and this after defending him for years), but such a final decision is not ours to make.

    I have no problem with your decision to ignore LI commenting rules; frankly, they are pretty shaky since we all know Rags is still here. That said, I do have to do my job, so keep it non-insulting and totally cuddle-some. 😛

      Well played 😉

      So who’s decision is it?

      Does he not realize he is undermining the credibility of his own staff?

      Does he have any respect for the rest of us?

      I’m sure he understands what happens to a community when simple laws are not enforced, or when people realize others are held to a lower standard?

      If so, I don’t understand why he won’t act.

        mailman in reply to Fen. | September 17, 2018 at 8:15 am

        Just be a fucking adult and ignore the comments you find objectionable. Fuzzy and co aren’t your fucking baby sitters for fucks sake.

Manufactured themselves and Anita Hill. Of course. This was as predictable as the sunrise.

Where is the PROOF ,,, WITNESSES ,,, CORROBORATION EVIDENCE ?? She is a democrat from California ,,, two reasons NOT to believe her. She’s following the Harry Reid motto ,, throw mud until some sticks even if it not true !!

Once again, the usual GOPe traitors step in hoping to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. For many years, I have been saying that you can’t elect enough Republicans to Congress for them to win. Even if they had 102 senators, they would still lose by one vote. Elect Cruz and Paul and those votes are immediately cancelled by a Flake and Corker or whoever’s turn it is to deliver for the Dems. This is not so much about Trump as it is about the nature of the GOP corruption. Trump only flushed them out before they were ready. There is no one left to fool. We all know the score.

That is why it was necessary for Trump to first defeat the GOPe before having a real shot at defeating the Democrats. More Corkers and Flakes are still out there hiding in the shadows waiting for their moments of “glory” ($$$$$$). I remain an unaffiliated independent Trump supporter for that very reason.

Trump was that 3rd party candidate we’ve been waiting for and he won because he consolidated that disgruntled former Republicans and disgruntled former Democrats who refused to switch parties seeing no difference. Trump prevailed over the Uniparty and we independents who recognized carried him. That is also why the polls don’t make sense anymore.

Fortunately, not only do I not expect the Dems to retake control of the Senate, I expect them to lose a couple of seats so this is only a potential delay. We’ll know Thursday. Corker and Flake are lame ducks and this is the only favor they have left to sell to the Masters of the Universe who will soon be facing intense anti-trust pressure from “both” parties.

Lets say Kavanaughs nomination gets voted down.

Whats to stop him being selected again once the Republican majority is increased to 60 come november? 🙂

    Aren’t we only talking of his nomination getting delayed from emerging from the Judiciary Committee? McConnell very much wants Kavanaugh appointed by October and I expect that he has a few tricks up his sleeve to deal with this. Maybe he can lean on Corker and Flake to back off under threat of being removed from the committee? Then with a new committee, Kavanaugh is quickly reconsidered and sent to the full Senate for confirmation?

    If the payoff for these traitors is peddling their influence once retired from the Senate, this could very well reduce their value to $1.15 (less postage and handling).

      Sorry Pasadena…I hit the wrong vote button (fat fingers > small mouse button!!!).

      Lets hope Cocaine Mitch has a plan up his sleeve. The last thing you guys need heading in to November is the wind up the lefts ass with another scalp in their bags…not to mention giving in to the Democrat tactics will only encourage more of this same behaviour!!!

        Yep, I’ve done it many times. Sometimes the screen hasn’t stopped settling but it’s really too close to the reply button. I blame global warming.

        JusticeDelivered in reply to mailman. | September 20, 2018 at 12:31 pm

        My experience in the corporate world was that just defeating someone was often not enough, frequently it was necessary to make an example out of the adversary. When you win they hate you more, so ousting them was generally the best tactic.

        What we are seeing with the Me Too crowd are very much the same tactics used against Zimmerman and others. Dems have been playing a very dirty game, those playing that game need to have the fight brought to them. Start making examples of the most egregious players. Take their lives apart.

Well here is a quick run down of the latest Crowdsourcing:

1. Fords father is a lawyer whose firm is connected with GPS Fusion.
2. Fords parents lost a foreclosure Case with Kavanaugh’s mother ruling on the case
3.Ford’s therapist is linked to donating money to democrat congress person that gave the memo to Fienstein
4. Fords has a reputation as a fruit cake Professor
5. Ford is a known pussy hat wearing Anti-Trump activist
6. Ford has been part of legal challenges about immigration policy

There seems to be a lot of chatter about her reputation in high school and college, but I would ignore that. This looks more like a GPS Fusion Hit Job. From what I read and heard about GPS Fusions working with the Wall Street Journal and listening to one of their victims, this has GPS Fusion handwriting all over it. Same with the Roy Moore matter. Moore was an easy target, but GPS Fusion might be pushing it on this one.

Every man’s nightmare. Answering for some thing he did as a seventeen year old. This behavior alleged against Kevinaugh certainly doesn’t reflect the outstanding way he has conducted himself his entire life. It’s like someone accusing Mother Theresa of holding up a convenience store.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to Hawk. | September 20, 2018 at 1:40 pm

    Or is it answering for something he did not do? There is a presumption of innocence, something which has been trampled a lot lately.

Here’s something for the legal minds to consider. Let’s say Kavanaugh goes NOW to the FBI and takes a polygraph test and presents it to the committee. It says he answered truthfully and did not have any role in the story this woman says. Now we have two different tests taken by the same agency that says both parties are telling the truth. How could that be true? Conversation will then move to “repressed” memories of the accuser, how they might have been professionally planted and the role the polygraph should take in legal proceedings.

Remember the Castanza Rule.

And has anyone even considered the coming technology that will shatter what we think of our process of verifying truth. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fneng.2014.00014/full

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-mit-media-lab-making-ideas-into-reality-future-factory/

For now, the Republicans better think outside the box, but then the GOP has an infestation problem. I know, a larger infestation has made me jump the other ship.

What is going on with this nomination process is just like war. Everyone knows that when the battle starts all plans are out the window. But for some reason, the Republicans always seem to be caught off guard with their pants down. Is it possible for them to ever stand up with a spine? All it took to deflect several of the weak ones is a feather to the nose. If this was something of great importance or consequence it would be reasonable to hear both sides but after 36 years it will be down to they said she said and that will be it. Finally, what did happen? Did she get her clothes torn off? No. Did she get sexually assaulted? No. All of the evils that she has offered came from her imagination or memories. She said she feared for her life! Does that make any sense since neither of the (three) other guys came looking for her afterward and did not even call out her name? I would think that had they wanted to rape and kill her they would have at least tried to find her!

Confirm appointment of Brett Kavanaugh asap, today if possible. Smoke and mirrors by Ford, do not delay this appointment

I wish youse guy, who seem to relish at being at one another’s throat, would exchange email addresses. Then, you could feud all you want and remove the undertow of your nastiness from what are, for the most part, good and enjoyable discussions.

“Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) tells me in an intv he that doesn’t think the Judiciary Cmte should move ahead with its Thursday vote on Kavanaugh until they hear more from Christine Blasey Ford. ‘For me, we can’t vote until we hear more.’”

I emailed my Senator, Ted Cruz, last night and asked him to confront Flake. How much more baseless, unverifiable innuendo does he need to hear from the 2018 version of Anita Hill? A day of testimony? A week? A year? The answer of course is that we don’t need to hear more. So the next question would be, how consumed by hatred of the GOP base is Flake?

Seems like Norm McDonnell nailed this one!

The members of the house and senate who paid OUR money to shut up those women who they violated MUST be identified. Those members should not be allowed to vote.

All members are complicit in the cover-up since they voted to allow the payments and to keep the individuals names secret.

Is there no deadline for scurrilous information? Could this happen in the middle of the vote for confirmation? When is the deadline really the deadline? Didn’t the lying scheming Feinstein know when the last day to offer info was past? Doesn’t Grassley have any integrity to the rules? WTF is going on in the US Senate that this kind of crap is allowed to exist?

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