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FBI Agent Told Congress Agency Leaked Stories and Used Them to Obtain FISA Warrants

FBI Agent Told Congress Agency Leaked Stories and Used Them to Obtain FISA Warrants

Apparently this is a common practice at the FBI.

A source familiar with the testimony of FBI Special Agent Jonathan Moffa told The Daily Caller News Foundation that the agent admitted in his House testimony that the agency would leak stories to the press and used those stories to obtain FISA warrants.

From The Daily Caller:

During a closed-door interview with the House Judiciary and House Oversight Committees on Friday, Special Agent Jonathan Moffa told congressional investigators that the FBI and Justice Department have leaked stories to the press and then used them to obtain warrants under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

“He more or less admitted that the FBI/DOJ have previously leaked info to the press and then used stories from the press as justifications for FISA warrants,” a source who took part in Moffa’s interview told TheDCNF.

A source, unknown if it’s the same as the one with the Daily Caller, told Fox News the same information. This source told the network the agency has used this “practice in the past,” but also said “that Moffa did not specifically confirm the practice of using leaked information to bolster warrant applications was employed with regard to the dossier.”

Republicans in Congress “have long questioned to what extent leaked information, related to the unverified anti-Trump dossier, was used as a basis for surveillance warrants against former Trump adviser Carter Page in 2016 — when the bureau was led by James Comey and deputy Andrew McCabe.”

Fox News’s source said that Moffa’s testimony does “raise concerns that the bureau indeed used this practice with the dossier, referencing an article written by Yahoo! News’ Michael Isikoff.” Fox News continued:

The Isikoff article was published on Sept. 23, 2016, focusing on Page’s July 2016 trip to Moscow. According to a House GOP memo earlier this year, the Isikoff article did “not corroborate the Steele dossier” as the article was “derived from information leaked by Steele himself to Yahoo News.” Yet the subsequent FISA application to spy on Page cited the Isikoff article, among other pieces of evidence.

“The [Carter] Page FISA application incorrectly assesses that Steele did not properly provide information to Yahoo News,” the memo read. “Steele has admitted in British court filings that he met with Yahoo News—and several other outlets—in September 2016 at the direction of Fusion GPS.”

While I’m weary of anonymous sources, it seems that Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) repeated the allegations in a tweet on Monday.

Meadows appeared on Fox News on Tuesday:

“We know that some people at the Department of Justice and the FBI actually gave information to the media, then the stories were reported. Then they used those reports to justify further investigations,” Meadows said on “America’s Newsroom” Tuesday. “You know, that’s like saying, we’re going to incriminate on one hand, and be the jury on the other. It just doesn’t work that way.”

The House will question DOJ official Bruce Ohr on Tuesday. The Republicans remain “convinced that Ohr was too close to [dossier author Christopher] Steele and used Steele’s questionable analysis to launch an investigation into Trump.

Fusion GPS, the publisher of the dossier, employed Ohr’s wife Nellie at the time.


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    Elzorro in reply to starride. | August 28, 2018 at 1:44 pm

    If the evidence they leaked was true but obtained illegally this is evidence laundering. If false even worse. All cases should be thrown out and Mueller/Sessions shut down. An independent counsel appointed and after them. Worse than entrapment. They created crimes out of thin air.

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Elzorro. | August 28, 2018 at 2:52 pm

      It is all 100% FAKED!

      A lying circle of faked……

      MarkS in reply to Elzorro. | August 28, 2018 at 5:11 pm

      Mueller/Sessions shut down? No way! They need to face a Special Counsel

        MattMusson in reply to MarkS. | August 29, 2018 at 6:53 am

        I feel like there is a 50% chance that Mueller’s entire team will be indicted for illegal FISA warrants. Because.. every single one of them is guilty.

      JOHN B in reply to Elzorro. | August 28, 2018 at 7:48 pm

      What ever happened to “fruit of the poisonous tree?” Since Mueller was appointed based on false information, then anything he does through his office is void.

      Or does that rule only apply when an Obama voter rapes or murders someone and the police make a technical error in their search warrant procedure.

      Why do you think they gave the Enquirer guy immunity. A reporter can gather “evidence” by any means he can get away with, turn it over to the cops, and as long as they can disguise where it came from (anonymous hotlines are tailor made for this), they can use it to get warrants to “discover” the same info.

    maxtrue in reply to starride. | August 28, 2018 at 4:18 pm

    Micheal Totten over at World Affair Journal eventually shut his comment section down because a few of us laid this suspicion out from day one. He accused us of being too conspiratorial. His friend journalist Lee Smith broke Right and Totten joined Goldberg and Boot in the never Trump CFA reality. As I Liberal I didn’t get the memo to violate Liberal Principle. I see why his blog is over on Facebook now with less rebellious fan club.

    The general idea of this Deep State collusion from Obama expediting the Russian lawyer so she could argue against the Magnitsky Act, to the Trump Tower ruse, GPS and the Dossier Fusion came up with, the Comey handling of Clinton’s email, the FISA warrants etc all had been generally flushed out more than a year ago. Over at Totten’s we were making predictions we thought obvious. These smart experts of the last administration were caught be surprise. Below are just some related links that seem relevant.
    Intercept explores the FBI Spy in the Trump camp Revenge against the whistle blower Lanny Davis is an active foreign agent for who? Is journalism acting to influence elections and where does the paper trail and bank accounts lead? Are media corporations and masters of social media doing the same thing? Is Deep State just a recent term that Republicans invented, or is that fake news with false history? Secret Teams have been around for a long time.

    My question to all the lawyers here would be anyone to explain how the FBI could obtain FISA warrants through phony media articles they planted along with the author of false dossier information doing that too (in collusion) and anything obtained be allowed as evidence. With all the evidence of a government collusion from protecting Clinton to investigating the President while generating public narratives of treason and criminal activity, what laws exist to preserve justice? Is this all on Sessions to trigger?

    Is justice a joke and there is no due process for law itself?

    On what legal planet can media invest billions in an endless campaign for a political party? What are the conditions if any of Press Accreditation? How could the intelligence community stand by the security clearances of any former CIA head who accuses the president of treason without evidence and particularly one who was just told by Lanny Davis that repeated statements in the Dossier Brennan lied about circulating contained numerous lies about his client Cohen?

    This is sillier than BlackList which now seems prescient.

    Isn’t there more than enough credible evidence that media corporations, government agencies, lawyers and experts are engaging in a massive collusion to manipulate and influence control of the political power in this country in favor of Democrats. How could we possibly sink lower in the eyes of the world and those of our children is we can;t uphold the rule of law and the idea of free and fair elections?

    As a Liberal, I could hardly stand by and watch the same illiberal effort for the Republicans.

    But THAT isn’t the reality now, is it?

    The ultimate irony is this “establishment” collusion favoring the Democrats is masked by its perpetrators in the fake smoke of “Putin’s effort to undermine our Democracy”.

    He doesn’t come close.

    If some legal minds don’t have a strategy how to prevent this grand illiberal collusion through legal action, is Liberal Democracy a joke? Or is America more like Part C in New York City Housing Court?. We’re just a Co-op.

“You know, that’s like saying, we’re going to incriminate on one hand, and be the jury on the other. It just doesn’t work that way.”

Au contraire, it’s working very well. And it will continue to work very well until we come up with a better class of FISA judges. If they’re dumb enough—or so corrupt that they willingly pretend to be dumb enough—to fall for easy stuff like this, they must be completely useless when anything more complicated ends up in front of them.

    Obakemono in reply to tom_swift. | August 28, 2018 at 2:01 pm

    I think the whole FISA judge issue is much deeper than it seems, because they were most likely groomed for the court long before they were placed on the court. They are corrupt AND comprimised. There is most likely a stack of incriminating evidence of the judge’s lives that they are told to shut up and color rubber stamping cases that goto the FISA court.

    MarkS in reply to tom_swift. | August 28, 2018 at 5:12 pm

    I’d say corrupt

    “a better class of FISA judges”

    The FISA judges are chosen by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. As a FISA judge, they have no alternative but to accept the sworn testimony of the applicant. They have no investigative resources of their available to verify the application.

    The reality is that the FISA court is now and always has been unconstitutional. The very idea of a ‘secret’ court issuing ‘secret’ warrants is absurd even on its surface.

    Add to that the total 100% warrantless collection of all electronic communications and we have all that is needed for an invincible tyranny. Especially when over 85% of all searches against that data collection was unauthorized until Admiral Rogers closed it down.

    The DOJ and the FBI are completely untrustworthy and the FISA/FISC is not only unconstitutional, but is also untrustworthy due to its implementation.

    We have no justice available today; how society is holding together is beyond my comprehension.

Humphrey's Executor | August 28, 2018 at 1:27 pm

The Media is a willing and able tool of the bureaucracy.

G. de La Hoya | August 28, 2018 at 1:29 pm

The “lovely” Nellie Ohr’s husband, Bruce, will be ripe for picking in the pen 🙂

Parallel Corruption. Like throwinf a bag of weed in a persons car. They are all dirty. they should all get 20 years without parole.

Indictment time, way over due.

As usual, nothing to see here. Move along.

Nothing will happen.

“While I am Attorney General, the actions of the Department of Justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations.”


I’m sure Robert Mueller is all over this … with Antonin Scalia’s pillow

I was Naval intel for 20 years. One of the proudest days of my life was when my DI told me he thought I would be a good intel officer. I lived up to that. For twenty years I was either supporting Seventh Fleet, the Second ID (Second to none) or training to do it. That said, WTFHO?

I didn’t learn a lot from the CIA. I am sure there are good people working in the CIA I just never worked with them. I wish I could tell you about the analysts who ****ed me over. The only people who f***ed me over worse was Department of State. If i was Preezy I’d would head over to Langley and bulldoze the entire place. Then after I finished that job I’m off to Foggy bottom. Oh, sure there are good people at both departments.

I wish I could tell you how just worse than useful the CIA is. It’s classified.

The FBI like NCIS I always found to be straight shooters. Like NCIS and AFOSI. It’s why it pains me.

    oldgoat36 in reply to Arminius. | August 28, 2018 at 4:02 pm

    It is what is done with information, how it can be spun, twisted and manipulated by those at the top where the greatest corruption lies. And it taints the works of honest players. Hard to get to a point where you can trust them again, because corruption can hide and wait till it’s safe to resume again.

      Arminius in reply to oldgoat36. | August 29, 2018 at 3:20 am

      I was an intel officer for 20 years. I know how information can be spun. We had a joke.

      An Admiral wanted to know how much was two plus two. So he calls in his Chief of Staff, an aviator. And he says, “Ace, who much is two plus two?” The aviator checks to see what watch he’s wearing and it’s not one with the calculator function. So he says, “I dunno.” The Admiral snarls, “Get out of here and send me the COMMO.” So the communications officer comes in and the admiral asks, “How much is two plus two?” The COMMO eager to show his mad math skillz starts drawing an extensive equation on the Admiral’s white board proving exactly what two plus two equals. Finally the Admiral says, “I don’t need all that, send me the intel officer.” The intel officer comes in and the Admiral asks, “How much is two plus two?”

      The intel officer holds a finger to his lips to let the Admiral know he needs to be quiet. He looks out the door, to make sure nobody is listening, then locks it. He closes the drapes. Then he leans down and whispers into the Admiral’s ear, “How much do you want it to be?”

      The thing is, at least in the operational intel field, once you compromise your integrity you’re done. And there are suck ups who will do it. I knew one guy who wrote an article for Proceedings about how a then recent incident showed intel was not supporting operations. You here a lot about “intelligence failures.” This was one of those supposed intel failures. But it wasn’t. We made sure the commander had the information, but he disregarded it and made a bad decision. The thing was we respected him. He was a good CO he just made a bad call. He didn’t make many bad calls. It’s axiomatic in intel that we never tell the operators what to do. It’s their job to make those decisions.

      So this slut writes an article about intel failing operations and we all know it’s bull**** including the commander he’s trying to cover for. Now we all have contempt for him including the CO he thinks he is doing a favor for. We had a saying in navy intel. “If we couldn’t take the blame, they wouldn’t keep us around.” So if the operators want to blame their bad calls on supposed intel failures, fine. But most of us have the good sense not to join into the lie. Because once you do your word is no good anymore. All you have is your word, and once that’s gone you have been disarmed.

      “Almost half of the analysts at the Pentagon structure overseeing military operations in the Middle East and South Asia have called into question the integrity of the organ’s intelligence work.

      In a poll taken annually by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), forty percent of respondents at US Central Command (CENTCOM) reported “problems with analytical integrity and CENTCOM processes,” according to House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes (R-Calif.).

      The director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, Lt. Gen. Vincent Stewart, acknowledged that he “would consider that [number] unusually high,” in testimony before the committee on Thursday…”

      Maybe I’m the only one who remembers. The DNI, Clapper the loyal lap dog, was jumping the chain of command and calling the J2 at CENTCOM and telling him to direct his analysts to tell Obama only what he wanted to hear. They refused. It doesn’t matter if you’re a Democrat or Republican. Lives depend on us providing ground truth to the operators. Mostly they make good decisions. One of those lives was my own. I have no control whether the operators decide. But my greatest fear was that I didn’t provide them with reliable intel. After that, it’s out of my hands and I’m swimming with the rest of the Sailors.

      Did I mention I have no use for the CIA? It turns out that in Brennan miss non-official cover Valerie Plame got the director the organization deserved.

      I am one long-winded SOB, aren’t I. NDAs are all in the news these days. I signed my life away and promised I will never tell. I won’t. I will keep my word.

      Arminius in reply to oldgoat36. | August 29, 2018 at 4:50 am

      I imagine you may appreciate this.

      “Woodward: Tenet told Bush WMD case a ‘slam dunk'”

      And then later:

      “…Though Cheney was already looking toward war, the officers of the agency’s Joint Task Force on Iraq–part of the Counterproliferation Division of the agency’s clandestine Directorate of Operations–were frantically toiling away in the basement, mounting espionage operations to gather information on the WMD programs Iraq might have. The JTFI was trying to find evidence that would back up the White House’s assertion that Iraq was a WMD danger. Its chief of operations was a career undercover officer named Valerie Wilson…”

      I need to make a point. At one juncture the CIA is telling the preezy it’s a slam dunk that Iraq has WMDs. Then later it turns out that they just don’t know.

      It can’t be both. Hopefully I have gone some distance to explaining why I despise the CIA and Brennan and Clapper. The people who rise to the top in the intel field are not the cream of the crop. The best look down the chain and ask, “what do you need to know?” The worst look up the chain and aske, “What do you want to hear?” And unfortunately it’s the members of the latter group who tend to get promoted.

      Not to say that there are no good people in the CIA.

      Or the Department of State. It’s why I knew that Susan Rice and Hillary Clinton were lying b***es. The Bureau of Intelligence and Research…

      …knew before I did that the Cairo embassy was going to be attacked. And every single American facility in North Africa was at risk that anniversary of 9/11. Report me if you like but all that I’m telling you is from open sources. I’m not giving away any secrets. The b@st@rds were issuing press releases and making calls for violence on social media. I can’t guarantee I know this for a fact, as that would imply I can read a newspaper, and that would be wrong.

      Also DSS agents are fine people. They used to make me laugh with their stories about interacting with the KGB.

        maxtrue in reply to Arminius. | August 29, 2018 at 10:11 am

        I was reading the Long War Journal before the Benghazi attack. They reported that 1. the CIA was engaged in tracking and actual conflict with AQ-affiliated groups in Benghazi. Part of their mission it was stated was to track all the weapons stolen from caches. 2. These AQ groups were directly related to members in Cairo being tracking there by the CIA. In Egypt, these groups had used social media to promote a protest on 9/11/12 demanding the US release the Blind Sheik. No mention of a crappy movie 3. The communications and activity of these terrorists were therefore in the net of the NSA and CIA. LWJ claimed the activity between Libya and Cairo was coordinated and observed in real time by the CIA on the ground that were also watching the US CEOs that had arrived to meet Morsi that day. 4. LWJ also connected Brigade 17 in Libya to these groups in Cairo but they had already been hired to provide security for Stevens.

        Again, this was all reported before 9/11/12 as well as possible terrorists the CIA had captured and detained in or near their compound. Broadwell alluded to this when she threatened to divulge some of the information she had seen.

        I believe that was her last public statement ever and I have never seen any subsequent journalism that went into more detail or review of what LWJ reported BEFORE 9/11/12 which is almost six years ago.

          Arminius in reply to maxtrue. | August 29, 2018 at 11:18 am

          “Readout of the President’s Meeting with Senior Administration Officials on Our Preparedness and Security Posture on the Eleventh Anniversary of September 11th

          Earlier today the President heard from key national security principals on our preparedness and security posture on the eve of the eleventh anniversary of September 11th. Over the past month, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism John Brennan has convened numerous meetings to review security measures in place. During the briefing today, the President and the Principals discussed specific measures we are taking in the Homeland to prevent 9/11 related attacks as well as the steps taken to protect U.S. persons and facilities abroad, as well as force protection. The President reiterated that Departments and agencies must do everything possible to protect the American people, both at home and abroad.”

          They lied, pure and simple.

          So, Zachriel, you s***bird, go stick your thumb up your arse. I never had a major command. But I know I could do a better job than these clowns. Have I told you how Obama was ordering the analysts at CENTCOM to NOT tell him the truth about how miserably he was failing the United States. You can suck all the @$$ you can wrap your arms around and it won’t change a thing. Obama and Clinton belong in front of a firing squad. I’m tempted to think you do, too.

    Edward in reply to Arminius. | August 28, 2018 at 4:47 pm

    If you were never screwed over by the Bureau (not any particular S/A, but people up the ladder, ASAC, SAC or HQ people), that’s because you didn’t have something the Bureau wanted and didn’t want to just hand it over.

      Edward in reply to Edward. | August 28, 2018 at 4:51 pm

      IOW, you weren’t in competition with the Bureau. That is when you find that the Bureau is the tail which wags the DoJ dog. If it takes DoJ getting involved to “win” the bureaucratic pissing match, the DoJ would be involved. But that is way above the S/A level.

Fire everybody, demolish the building, salt the earth.

Our federal bureaucrats are so corrupt and dishonest.

I can see Brennan’s hand prints on this, as well as Comey and McCabe’s.

Disinformation campaigns work well, and once the lies are out there, having been reported by a corrupt media, they remain the truth to far too many people.

This whole thing is not dissimilar to Rather pushing his story of Bush, made up of phony documents, because that was what Dan believed to be true, even if there wasn’t evidence of it. No evidence? No problem, we can make it up.

I believe the FISA warrants are supposed to have information that is collaborated with other sources, what better way to create those other sources than to leak to the media this information, anonymously, and then point to these other sources and see, here are 5 other times this was verified, independently of this dossier, so trust me, it’s all good here.

The FBI and CIA are very good at this type of thing, and despite FISA courts needing further documentation for granting these requests, back door channels can be used to manufacture it so it has enough of the appearance of providing the protects of our citizens from out government, while really offering none at all.

If the dossier is mostly a compilation of lies from Russian operatives, which seems more and more likely, and they use this same information, which they haven’t vetted, it is a lie confirmed by the same lie. Totally worthless.

Herr Mueller should have been fired long ago. Yet, because he is helping cover for a lot of people involved with this, including the one he “reports” to, Rosenstein, it keeps on trucking, looking for any crime to effect the coup against an election they thought would never happen.

    alaskabob in reply to oldgoat36. | August 28, 2018 at 4:49 pm

    Many months ago Rush brought up concern that the CIA and FBI were working to damage Trump. He also wondered if “W” had been intentionally given bad intel to wind up with the mess in Iraq. )My concern was mostly one can’t nation build people who need a dictator to function.. as in the Left).

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | August 28, 2018 at 4:20 pm

FYI Related:

A Chinese-Owned Company Hacked Hillary Clinton’s Homebrew Server Throughout Her Tenure as Secretary of State, Stealing Almost All of Her Emails; FBI Ignored —Ace of Spades

    Never mind. According to James Comey the Ivy league grad who would have been he most qualified person according to Barack Obama to occupy the Oval Office since Thomas Jefferson is just too stupid to understand INFOSEC regulations.

    Never mind that I had young men and women with GEDs who were capable of grasping the concept. I used to take the position that the less exposure people had to the American education system, the smarter they were likely to be.

    “There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them.”

    No normal man could.

2nd Ammendment Mother | August 28, 2018 at 4:50 pm

If they were willing to go this route to entrap Trump, consider what they have most likely done to individuals less capable of defending themselves who’ve had the misfortune to fall into their pathway.

This isn’t a “there but the Grace of God moment”, it’s a by the Grace of God we’re coming to understand just how fragile our personal freedom is.

Remember, the judge in the Manafort case wasn’t hard on the prosecution because he thought Manafort might be innocent, but because he’d been previously lied to by these same attorneys in other cases and found out about it.

    I’m afraid it’s worse than you think. To get a secret clearance all you need is a National Agency Check or NAC. That’s just a straight forward data base search. To get a top secret clearance you need a Single Scope Background Investigation. The FBI is one, and I must emphasize one, of the federal agencies, that will investigate you.

    But other law enforcement agencies don’t double check the FBI’s work. What other areas were they willing to compromise. I had no investigative ability on my own. Was Robert Hanssen the only one? What I’m learning about the bureau is I never could be sure. Just how crooked was the FBI?

    Personnel security or PERSEC was one of the areas that I worried my pretty little head about. It may seem to someone outside of my world that I’m making a big deal over nothing.

    Mrs. 2A, earlier notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital mentioned the Cambridge five. That is precisely what I was thinking of when I mentioned how much a disaster the corruption of the FBI would be. It’s impossible to overstate the case.

      Arminius in reply to Arminius. | August 30, 2018 at 12:24 pm

      Guess who would do the damage assessment? The FBI. Who could trust it. It’s now impossible to know the scope of the potential damage to national security. Maybe none. I interviewed with the FBI for at least one of my five year SSBI updates. I can tell you I didn’t compromise national security. But…

      “HONOLULU, Sept 17 (Reuters) – A former U.S. military contractor in Hawaii was sentenced on Wednesday to more than seven years in prison for passing national defense secrets to his Chinese girlfriend and illegally keeping numerous classified documents at his home.

      Benjamin Pierce Bishop, 60, a retired Army lieutenant colonel assigned to the U.S. Pacific Command on Oahu, admitted in March to the espionage offenses and agreed to cooperate with investigators in a plea deal that staved off additional charges…

      …The email recipient was a 27-year-old Chinese woman who was residing in the United States as a graduate student on a J1 visa while having a romantic relationship with Bishop that federal investigators said he kept hidden from the U.S. government…”

      I mean, come the (blank) on! Sixty year old defense contractor. Twenty seven year old Chinese girlfriend.

      Who the (blank) is kidding who? I would have picked up on this back when I was in. Which isn’t to say I am some psychic. Normally the Chinese M.O. is to pick on ethnic Chinese. But if the don’t have an ethnic Chinese on the inside they’ll put out some Chinese Honey to compromise a gweillo. I can guarantee that the sixty year old wasn’t hiding his relationship. I’m more than sure he was proud of the fact he was shagging a twenty seven year old and wanted the world to know it. Like the E-3 driving the Porsche Panamerica that no way can he afford on that salary. These people just can’t help themselves.

      Is nobody doing their jobs?

      “In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.”

      Sincerely, the United States Navy.

    Here’s a clip from a James Bond movie. In no way in my paper-pushing, desk-jockeying job did anything remotely like this happen to me.

    “Betrayed Within – Quantum of Solace (2008) | James Bond 007 (Daniel Craig)”

    Keep in mind it’s a movie. I didn’t have the authority all on my own to revoke anyone’s clearance. But I could suspend it, and did. Then it was up to my seniors what the final resolution would be.

    I just want you to know that the military and naval services are still staffed with people who take security seriously.

What is maddening about this whole thing is that like a snowball rolling downhill, this bogus investigation cannot be stopped! Why? There is enough proof now to at least call a pause while the origins of this mess are reviewed by the SCOTUS. To see lives destroyed by a limitless prosecutor and having no boundaries of any kind, this could lead to a civil breakdown and cause irreparable damage to our form of government. Ken Starr never went after the kinds of things that Mueller is doing and he seems to be nowhere near an end.

I never got one single hop. One aviator had to basically lead me by the hand and say:

“Look, Holy, (that was my call sign) we would like to give you a ride but No Lock Doc is in a paid flight status and you are not so no f***ing way. If we give you a hop it means we could have given one to him.”

No Lock Doc was in the backseat of a Tomcat when an Su-15 Flagon hooked up on his rear end. There is no way that could have happened. Unless you were trying really really hard.

Not all flight surgeons are that dumb.

FBI strongly denies reports on agent telling lawmakers the bureau leaked stories to obtain FISA warrants: The FBI pushed back on reporting Tuesday that said an FBI agent who testified to joint task force of the House Judiciary and House Oversight Committees last week told lawmakers the bureau leaked news stories in order to obtain warrants under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

    Arminius in reply to Zachriel. | August 29, 2018 at 11:43 am

    Sorry, I meant to insult you properly. But I didn’t link to you correctly.

    This is what in Naval Intelligence is called a clue. I see you are not having any of it. Which is why you aren’t getting hired any time soon.

    “Jihadi groups in Egypt, including Islamic Jihad, the Sunni Group, and Al Gamaa Al Islamiyya have issued a statement threatening to burn the U.S. Embassy in Cairo to the ground. According to El Fagr, they are calling for the immediate release of the Islamic jihadis who are imprisonment and in detention centers in the U.S. including Guantanamo Bay: “The group, which consists of many members from al-Qaeda, called [especially] for the quick release of the jihadi [mujahid] sheikh, Omar Abdul Rahman [the “Blind Sheikh”], whom they described as a scholar and jihadi who sacrificed his life for the Egyptian Umma, who was ignored by the Mubarak regime, and [President] Morsi is refusing to intervene on his behalf and release him, despite promising that he would. The Islamic Group has threatened to burn the U.S. Embassy in Cairo with those in it, and taking hostage those who remain [alive], unless the Blind Sheikh is immediately released.” ”

    Here’s another clue. The Obama admin issued a statement that the attack on the diplomatic facility in Benghazi was not indicative of a larger failure of policy. Which meant of course it was. Do you want me to continue?

    The Obama admin was issuing statements about how f***ing prepared they were to defend US assets at home and a abroad the same day that terrorist groups were issuing press releases about how they were going to attack US facilities in north Africa. And as it turns out it was the terrorists who turned out to be reliable. I have to give the Obama admin some credit. While the Sunni Group, Jemaah al Islamiyah, and Islamic Jihad were threatening in the Cairo press and as it turned out committed an attack on the embassy they sent some Marine embassy guards to the Caribbean. Barbados, I believe. Good for the Marines. I hope they got some good liberty out of it.

    Here’s another clue, dirtbag. You don’t just get a crowd like the one that showed up in Cairo by accident. Could you fill a high school gym in Kabul or Kansas City with a concert by Jay Z without telling anyone? The terrorists were active on social media for a looooong time before they attacked. I’m not giving away any secrets when I tell you that in OIC (Organization of the Islamic Conference) that these people don’t spontaneously hear about some obscure pastor in Florida and get enraged all by their lonesome. The despots ruling those s***holes as Trump so accurately put it don’t allow for that kind of crap unless they organize it.

      Arminius: But I didn’t link to you correctly.

      What are you going on about? We posted concerning what was or was not said during a closed Congressional hearing.

        Arminius in reply to Zachriel. | August 29, 2018 at 7:06 pm

        Who is “we?” You are getting warmer. I know it was a closed session. There was no reason for it to be closed as absolutely nothing about the attack was classified. It was no more classified than the Boston Marathon bombing. If you can witness something with the Mark 1 Mod 0 eyball it’s not classified. Or the Mark 1 Mod 0 ear drum. There was a surgeon from Massachusetts General Hospital in Benghazi at the time. Mass General has a sister hospital relationship with Benghazi Medical Center (BMC). He was on the phone with one of Ambassador Stevens aides discussing Stevens’ scheduled visit to BMC the next morning when he heard the bomb that blasted the compound’s gates open go off. His hotel was close enough to the diplomatic facility that he could hear it not over the phone but out his window. The aide said, “Oh s***” and abandoned the call.

        I am reasonably acquainted with this nonsense. Every DoS facility has an Emergency Action Plan. No EAP includes discussing an appointment tomorrow when tonight you have protesters outside. You are supposed to be burning the classified and getting ready to get the hell out of Dodge.

        There was no protest. It was a planned attack. That much was obvious by the next morning at least. And why weren’t the assets in Sicily locked and loaded on the anniversary of 9/11?

        This is malfeasance, misfeasance, or at the very least non-feasance of the highest order. But my vote is that it was deliberate evil.

        This is what I’m going on about.

        And then Brennan forces his own contractors to sign NDAs so they don’t tell anyone the truth about what happened. And Susan Rice America’s ambassador to the UN apparently can’t find her way to the Diplomatic Security Service Command Center in D.C. to listen to the DSS agent manning the operations center at the DipFac in Benghazi reporting in real time what is happening.

        When Susan Rice went on five Sunday talk shows I knew she was lying. I lost track of the number of lies, but it was a lot. And she was doing it the direction of Obama, and covering for the Hildebeest.

        It just doesn’t get worse than this.

        “In recent posts, we’ve asked the fundamental question about the terrorist attack on our consulate in Benghazi, which resulted in the deaths of four Americans: what did the administration know, and when did they know it?

        As we’ve noted, there was a steady stream of intelligence reporting on the attack, delivered at the FLASH/CRITIC level. Messages assigned that priority must be delivered to the President within 10 minutes of receipt. This traffic captured conversations between the Islamist factions responsible for the attack, before and during the assault on our compound. That’s why administration claims that incident was some sort of “demonstration gone bad” are nothing more than a lie.

        Ditto for Joe Biden’s claim that Benghazi was some sort of intelligence failure. By all accounts, the spooks did their job, and it was apparent within minutes that our consulate was under attack by terrorists, not ordinary Libyans incensed over that internet video. If Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has any shred of integrity remaining, he should resign immediately in protest over how his community is being “used” to conceal leadership failures of the first magnitude.

        But terrorist phone traffic wasn’t the only source of information on the night of September 11, 2012. According to Fox News military analyst Colonel David Hunt (who spent most of his Army career in special forces), various U.S. command centers–in the U.S. and overseas–received a running account of the attack –while it unfolded–from a State Department official inside the consulate. Hunt detailed who was listening in during a recent interview with Boston radio host Howie Carr. Here’s a partial transcript of their recent conversation… ”

        I knew the day before it happened that it was going to happen. Old habits die hard. All you needed to do was transliterate the Arabic into English. It’s not hard, and you don’t even need a clearance.

        But Rice, Brennan, and Clapper would have everyone believe it was all sooper sekrit intel. When the Dipfac was like all embassies and consulates not in the middle of some desert or jungle. It was in the middle of a residential neighborhood, accessible, so it could perform its mission of issuing visas to Libyans or replacement passports to American citizens. There were plenty of witnesses, just like in Boston. But the the Obama admin flunkies abused their authority and classified everything to protect themselves.

        I have nothing but contempt for such dealings. That’s what I am going on about.

    Barry in reply to Zachriel. | August 29, 2018 at 11:24 pm

    Oh look, the commie committee shows up to support a cabal of communists.

You can’t get closer to the NATO base in Sigonella on Sicily other than Libya unless you join NATO. Oh, there’s a lot of blame here. I don’t want to be conspiratorial which is a fine word if sometimes misused. But there is no excuse. It was a pretty prminent anniversary. I can see that you are taking the position that NO ONE could have predicted that on 11 September 2012 somebody would attack a US installation.

He raises his hand and says, “I could.” I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed but I am capable of reading from the Book of Obvious. And I could have made forces in Italy ready to respond.

The FBI push back doesn’t sound very convincing. Maybe they can show us the sources used in the FISA request. What other sources of “independent information” was added to the dossier?

I didn’t see the FBI refute the claim the Dossier was central or that they didn’t think highly of its credibility.
Intercept shows that the investigation was in motion before there was an investigation and was triggered by the Dossier which may very well have received Clinton campaign funds to produce. You think two years is sufficient time for basic answers to troubling questions? Media has discussed this for a long time showing how “leaked” information was extremely close to parts of the Dossier and that Steel himself was part of the leaking. I believe lots of email confirm this. Maybe China can supply some transcripts. Maybe the news sources can be requested from the publishers to provide investigators who exactly supplied media the information. Maybe Lanny Davis, or Brennan or Susan rice have some thoughts.

    Arminius in reply to maxtrue. | August 29, 2018 at 7:41 pm

    “The FBI push back doesn’t sound very convincing…”

    Because it’s not. I haven’t had a clearance since I retired in 2008. But I can still tell the difference between rain and someone pissing on me. The FBI is pissing on us all.

    Recall the sinking of the ROKS Cheonan. She was a Pohang class Patrol Corvette. She was one of the follow-on vessels to the Donghae class Corvette. I spent enough time in Korea to qualify for membership in the VFW, mostly up at Camp Casey. But I did spend quite a bit of time in Pusan with the ROK Navy. I have a soft spot for the ROKS Anyang (PCC-755). I still get a chuckle about how the LT giving me a tour of the ship froze when I asked how many rounds she carried in ready storage for the OTO Malera 3″ gun. He looked at me and eventually said, “That’s classified.”

    I didn’t actually really want to know. I was just trying to make conversation by pretending I was interested in his ship. Later we had lunch in the wardroom and the skipper apologized to me. “I’m sorry” he said, “We don’t have the special food for foreigners.” I suppressed my laughter and told him I was good with the Korean food.

    Now I have to wonder if the NORKs killed any of my friends.

    I said at the time, and maybe some of you will recall this, that we were going to have to pay a heavy price for failing to react to the NORK attack on the Cheonan. Kim Jong-il was passing out medals to the perpetrators of the attack the next day. They were laughing at us. And then the NORKs topped off their year by shelling Yeonpyeong Island.

    Zachriel deserves credit for something. I’m angrier than a bucket of spitting cobras. I spent twenty years in the Navy and I got to watch for eight years Obam and his crew piss it away.

The only connection I can see between the closed session hearings and Cheonan Incident is the same people at the helm in the “intelligence community” focus on political control while China hacks billions in top submarine information.