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Trump Demands Obamacare Repeal

Trump Demands Obamacare Repeal

“The American people have waited long enough, there’s been enough talk and no action, now is the time for action”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0u34c9orMc

Monday, President Trump gave a brief statement on the current state of healthcare reform.

Trump minced no words saying, “every Republican running for office promised immediate relief from this disastrous law.”

Introduced by Vice President Pence, Trump called on the Senate to make good on their promise to repeal Obamacare in full.

The highlights, via CBS News:

Trump to GOP: There’s “still time to do the right thing”
Mr. Trump urges Republican Senators that now is the time to “keep their promise” to Americans.

“The Ameircan [sic] people have waited long enough, there’s been enough talk and no action, now is the time for action,” he adds.

Trump: “Obamacare is death”
“The question for every senator now is whether they will side with Obamacare’s architects, or with its forgotten victims,” Mr. Trump says.

Mr. Trump warns that “any Senator who votes against starting debate on health care , that you are fine with the Obamacare nightmare.”

He adds, “for Democrats this vote is a chance to make up for “their terrible harm they’ve inflicted on Americans.”

Trump says “hopefully” GOP can repeal and replace Obamacare
“For last seven years Republicans have been united in standing up for Obamacare’s victims. They kept saying it over and over again, every Republican running for office promised immediate relief,” says Mr. Trump. He adds, “We, as a party, must fulfill that promise to repeal and replace, what they’ve been saying for the past 7 years.”

“So far Senate Republicans have not done their job in ending the Obama nightmare,” Mr. Trump warned. He adds that there has also been “no help” from Democrats and instead are being “obstructionists.”

Trump says “Obamacare’s lies” have caused “nothing but pain”
Democrats want to “ignore the pain, suffering and tremendous amounts of money these lies have caused.”

Trump: Obamacare has “wreaked havoc” on Americans
“It was a big, fat, ugly lie,” Mr. Trump says referring to the ACA.

Mr. Trump describes families hardships under Obamacare, blaming “Democrats promises” for poor coverage and high costs.

Pence says Trump delivering on promises to repeal Obamacare
“Thanks to leadership of Presient Trump help is on the way,” urges Vice President Mike Pence.

He adds, “Tomorrow the Senate will have the opportunity to begin debate on bill to repeal and replace Obamacare and as the president said this morning, after years of talking and campaigning on it, now is time for Republicans to act.”

“America is counting on the Senate to act,” he notes.

Families file in for Trump remarks
Health and Human Services secretary Tom Price along with CMS Director Seema Verma join families and patients who have been impacted by the ACA.

“We’re committed to delivering a health care plan that works for them,” Price says.

Fox News wonders if Trump is “getting back to the old magic” that catapulted him into the White House by taking a hardline on healthcare reform:

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Mid terms couldn’t come soon enough tobreture as many traitors as possible.

    Close The Fed in reply to mailman. | July 24, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    If there is anyone – ANYONE — and yes, this includes you; yes, you, the one reading this right now — who can run against a serious or mild RINO in the U.S. Senate or U.S. House, start campaigning NOW and run against them.

    Do not wait for someone else to step up.

    We need someone to run against Susan Collins. She’s up in 2020, I believe.

    We need someone to run against Jeff Flake. Not sure about him.

    We need to work NOW to rid ourselves of Paul Ryan, and this could be by persuading Mark Meadows (Freedom Caucus Chairman, who filed motion to remove Boehner) to file a similar motion against Ryan.

    If you’re not acting NOW, you need to get up, and start NOW.

    JohnC in reply to mailman. | July 25, 2017 at 6:20 am

    GOP: We wish we could get rid of this nasty Obamacare for you but we just don’t have the votes.

    America: Okay, we’ll give you the House of Representatives.

    GOP: We’re working as hard as we can but we can’t get anything past the Senate.

    America: Alright, here is the Senate. You now control all of Congress. Now, let’s see some action!

    GOP: Oh, gee whiz! That rotten old Obama says he’ll veto anything we send to his desk. We really want to help everyone but our hands are tied.

    America: FINE! Here is the Presidency! You now control two of the three branches of government. Now, get to work!

    Trump: Yeah! Let’s get to work!

    GOP: Now, let’s not be hasty. These sorts of things take finesse. Let’s not rush anything.

    America: Grrrrrrrrrrr….

      Milhouse in reply to JohnC. | July 25, 2017 at 2:13 pm

      As the Democrats’ experience with 0bamacare shows, without 60 votes in the senate you are very limited in what you can do. Do you or do you not understand that had the Dems come out of the 2008 election with a mere 59 senators 0bamacare would not now exist?

All we are witnessing is an attempt at a hostile take-over.
The Republicans have no interest in repealing Obamacare.
There isn’t any money in it.
No, they just want to take control of it.

Imagine a Politician that would freely give up that much money and power.
I can count them all on one hand.

    Paul in reply to snowshooze. | July 24, 2017 at 5:51 pm

    You are correct. The two party system is a sick game.

    Article V Convention of States. Castrating the federal government is the only solution.

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Paul. | July 25, 2017 at 2:00 pm

      The Founders knew the smaller the Federal government, the better
      – It’s a necessary evil but it should be kept small and impotent.

Just makes all the previous attempts at repeal to be nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

What an utter shame you don’t have an honest media to hold these traitors unaccountable.

The Republicans can manage to screw up even the simplest message. Trump talks repeal—a straightforward concept, with few places to hide, and little opportunity for stalling. But Pence talks “repeal and replace”, meaning a commitment by the Republicans to make a good job of the project the Dems already bungled; a project which can’t be rushed if it’s to be of any value at all.

Two entirely different animals. The Republicans should be in a position to do one immediately, but the other, not now, and probably not ever, whether they want to or not.

When Trump tells the Press something they all find baffling, well then, good. It keeps them out of our hair while they fret about how best to spin it. But when chastizing the Republicans for failure to get off their butts and earn their salaries, that’s not good. Contrariness and muddled messaging are covers for stalling and inaction.

If politics is the art of the possible, they should confine themselves to things they can actually do, not hold it all up for things they can’t.

    mrtomsr in reply to tom swift. | July 24, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    I think the “reform Obamacare” idea is what is really happening. No one is talking just repeal and let Americans figure it out. It has to be done by the government, for whatever reason. Interesting article today

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/07/have_repeal_efforts_always_been_a_republican_ruse.html

    MadisonS in reply to tom swift. | July 24, 2017 at 7:22 pm

    The Republicans can manage to screw up even the simplest message.”

    Given a chance the congressional Republicans can screw up a wet dream.

    Do they really “screw up?” That requires incompetence – not intent.

    The GOPe is the biggest pack of rats since the plague.

    inspectorudy in reply to tom swift. | July 25, 2017 at 9:33 am

    “Repeal” sounds so good and makes chests pop out but it is much more complex than that. The proposal is for repeal with a two-year continuation of obamacare, while in the meantime coming up with a new program. Now the continuation of Ocare means huge subsidies to the insurance companies to keep them profitable. The roles of Medicaid have grown by millions, not poor and sick women and children but healthy working adults. This would all come to an end under a new “Replace” program. It ain’t easy. The Dems had 60 votes and look at the mess they made! With a handful of RINOS, the GOP knows that it will NEVER come up with a replacement. This is not going to end well and the only way to do it is to tell the American people that we must work TOGETHER to come up with a program that is both workable and affordable. As much as I hate the thought of working with Pelosi and Schumer, it is a must. It isn’t Trump but reality that makes this the only solution.

      Ragspierre in reply to inspectorudy. | July 25, 2017 at 2:10 pm

      Dude, I’m SO sorry. I managed a down-thumb when I meant an UP-thumb. Damned big fingers and small keyboards…!!!

      Reversing ANY entitlement program takes huge balls to back right principles.

Just stop trying to replace the damned thing. Repeal it, period. Replace means re-labeling 0-care as T-care, which would be the death of Republican hopes forever. Nay-sayers like Rand have been been Trump’s best friends so far. Crazy to see them being attacked by Trump or any conservatives. Stop being stupid. NO REPLACE!

Affordable may cost less than “free”.

A market (i.e. evolutionary) mechanism should in principle realize a superior solution to an intelligent creation where there is a lack of perception and skill to know the present and predict the future.

How to do repeal without replace. Offer a one line stop-gap replacement bill: “All federal impediments to free markets for medical services or medical insurance are hereby rescinded.”

Allowing markets to operate provides a relief-valve for easing whatever difficulties may arise in the transition between repeal and whatever replacement is eventually decided upon. When the one-line deregulation quickly and dramatically lowers prices and expands access it will set a bar that other proposed replacements can’t match and will become the de facto permanent replacement.

Mr. Trump warns that “any Senator who votes against starting debate on health care , that you are fine with the Obamacare nightmare.”

By which he means to browbeat conservatives into falling into the trap of voting for a procedural measure that will allow leadership in both houses, along with the administration, to start really serious arm-twisting and vote buying.

Don’t fall for it, conservatives. IT’S A TRAP…!!!

    Barry in reply to Ragspierre. | July 24, 2017 at 10:52 pm

    “Don’t fall for it, conservatives. IT’S A TRAP…!!!”

    That mean old Donald Trump, trapping those poor conservatives.

    You already fell for the real trap, the one the republicans pulled on you for the last 8 years. You bent over to vote for romney, the father of obamacare, falling further into the trap.

      Romney…

      Forgot about Ol’ Mittens Romney. And Jeb! too.

      Good riddance to McCain, too.

      Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | July 25, 2017 at 4:59 am

      My own personal asp troll jumps up like some bad gas.

      First, what did your comment have to do with anything in the present reality? Nothing. Just more stupid.

      Second, I voted for Romney. You betcha. Just like Palin and Rush and everybody that year.

      He was…and still is…the opposite of your Great Goad Cheeto, who, remember, called his immigration plan too harsh. True to his wife, really earned his money by building companies where Americans work (not the foreign visa holders you’ll find at T-rump properties), someone who actually believes his claimed religion, and never feels the cloying, craving need to tell anybody how great he is. Just a good man, if not my kind of conservative.

      As to being “the father of ObamaDoggle”, that’s sort of one of your various and sundry lies. Romney was governor of a state with a veto-proof legislature that was GOING to have some form of state health-care. So what he did was champion the LEAST WORST plan that was possible in that reality.

      And, yes, asp troll, T-rump is trying to trap the conservatives…and everyone else…with his bullshit about “you’re either for me or you’re for ObamaDoggle”. It’s one of his obvious, stupid lies. Of which you suck up like kool aid on a hot day.

John McCain had a competing plan when he was running against Obama. If I recall correctly the plan was extremely simple to understand and implement. Does he no longer support it? Or did he ever?

FYI the plan was essentially a) replace employer deductibility with tax credits for buying insurance, b) insurance companies compete across state lines, and c) a high risk pool for the uninsurable (pre-existing conditions). No exchanges, no required coverage, no mandate, etc. Seriously, what happened to that plan?

I need to rely on a specialist who recently stopped accepting patients, including existing ones, from my health plan due to slow and low reimbursement rates for which he placed full blame on Obamacare. I could either find another specialist who would not be knowledgeable of my health history but who accepted my plan or change plans to one that my specialist accepts. Not so easy.

Covered California. the Obamacare exchange, has jurisdiction and rule making authority over all individual health plans, including those purchased directly from the insurer without subsidies, as is mine. But Covered California does not allow one to change plans except during an annual open enrollment period st year’s end unless one has an allowable triggering event which opens a special enrollment period. Losing your doctor by whom you have been cared for over decades is not one such event. To me that is pure unadulterated bureaucratic BS.

All new entitlement programs are a trap! They trap politicians and then they trap us. Politicians look good and caring while we sink into dependency on government paid for with our own money. When nothing comes from this Senate agitprop, maybe Trump can take his pen and undo some of the administrative knots Obama used to bypass Congress.

Right now, there are 75 million people enrolled in Medicaid. Of that number ~25 million are enrolled under the extended Medicaid which was established under the ACA. If you repeal the ACA, those 25 million people can be expected to lose their insurance. Then you have the ~10 million people receiving government subsidies under the exchange program. Without those subsidies, they are not going to be able to afford healthcare insurance. So, now you have 20-25 million people without insurance. See the problem for the Legislators? How do they politically justify eliminating healthcare insurance coverage for 8% of the population of the US? They can’t and they won’t.

These entitlement programs never go away. Social security is still with us and has been expanded unbelievably. Welfare is still with us and doesn’t get significantly smaller. Food stamps? Still around and expanded. Medicare, growing larger every year. Medicaid, the same. Farm subsidies? They were supposed to help the small farmer weather the depression. Now, they are a major cash cow for industrial farming. “Free money”, from the government never goes away.

    thalesofmiletus in reply to Mac45. | July 25, 2017 at 11:44 am

    The poor don’t need insurance — they have no assets to hedge against losses. What they need is medical treatment, which they get by walking into ER — that hasn’t changed with Obamacare.

      The poor need medical insurance to cover non-emergency treatment, just like everyone else. Treatment which most of the middle class can not afford without insurance. This is covered by Medicaid. And, indigent emergency treatment is usually paid, partially, through various government programs which are dependent upon tax revenue.

      However, 1/3+ of the people enrolled in Medicaid [~25 million] are not poor, let alone indigent. But, under expanded Medicaid, they receive government funded healthcare. And, of course the ~10 million receiving government subsidized insurance under the exchanges are middle class. The poor are not going to lose their healthcare benefits, if we role Medicaid back to the levels it was at in 2010. It is the middle class who is going to lose the insurance, if the government pulls out.

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