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Democrats Turn on John McCain After His Vote to Open Debate Health Care Bill

Democrats Turn on John McCain After His Vote to Open Debate Health Care Bill

Accuse McCain of single-handedly sentencing millions to death

The entire country needs a lesson in parliamentary procedure.

As I blogged yesterday, Senate Republicans, with the assist of Vice President Pence finally cobbled together enough votes to pass a motion to proceed (MTP), which simply allowed for debate on proposed Republican health care reform.

To watch Democrats, progressives, and everyone under the impression that health insurance saves lives, John McCain was single-handedly responsible for killing off some 22 million people. Never mind the other 50 votes or the that Sen. McCain already said he’d support a MTP. And let’s not even bother considering the CBO estimates of health insurance losses are due to an inordinate amount of people choosing to abstain from purchasing health insurance once the individual mandate ceases to be. In any case, in the minds of many, McCain became a veritable killing machine.

The politically illiterate, many of whom write the news, began criticizing Republicans for not knowing what legislation they were voting for:

And pretend news anchors proved why they have no business opining on legislative matters:

From Esquire:

“It is hard to describe what our elected leaders have been doing for the last 24 hours,” Stephen Colbert said last night.

(All he had to do was watch the floor action. This is why we have C-SPAN.)

I get that his schtick is over dramatizing news, but it might actually be funny if it were remotely accurate.

And of course, Republicans are heartless for choosing to debate a bill:

McCain became a target because he recently suffered the misfortune of a brain cancer diagnosis. Why would he want to debate legislation?! (Not like it’s his job or anything…) Shouldn’t he know the value of health insurance?! Sen. McCain might be a lot of things and he has a penchant for drawing fire from both sides of the aisle, but the ignorant backlash he received for a routine vote on a MTP is almost comical.

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G. de La Hoya | July 26, 2017 at 3:33 pm

I guess the ‘reaching across the aisle’ Maverick ticked off his base.

perhaps the brain cancer spread… to those who clapped for john (caesar) prepared to “stab” him in the back…

Coloradoopenrange | July 26, 2017 at 3:56 pm

His comments offended me, as his vote offended them.

    I am perplexed why Senator McCain thinks people listening to conservative news is keeping them from doing their jobs as Senators. John, that is simply embarrassing.

YellowSnake | July 26, 2017 at 4:09 pm

1st of all, McCain did more than vote for the Motion to Proceed. He made a speech in which he said he wouldn’t vote for the bill because it stunk and then he voted for it!

So he flew all the way across country, despite his illness, to support a bill he said was bad.

Besides I remember when Tim Johnson had a stroke in 2006. Had he not returned, the majority would have switched to the republicans. Boy did republican partisans put up a stink about how unfair it was for him not to resign. Seems kind of hypocritical – dontcha think? BTW, Johnson returned in 2007 and was even reelected.

As for giving a lesson in Parliamentary Procedure, you may have missed that the bill was ruled to not be a ‘Reconciliation’. So the democrats could have filibustered. Passage would have required 60 votes.

As for the democrats going hyperbolic, WHO GOES MORE HYPERBOLIC, MORE OFTEN, THAN DONALD J. TRUMP? Nobody. He even had to go hyperbolic about Hillary Clinton while giving a speech to the Boy Scouts!

      YellowSnake in reply to TheFineReport.com. | July 26, 2017 at 8:44 pm

      For the most part Obama was cool. Go look at how he dismantled Trump’s birther BS. As for the top 5 Obama rants – Trump rants 5 times a day. But I am willing to leave that as opinion.

      The point was that republicans got all upset when Tim Johnson had a stroke and held his seat. Actually, he returned to the Senate and even won reelection. I am afraid this was McCain’s last hurrah and an ignominious one at that.

      I still wonder how McCain stomachs Trump when McCain went through years of torture and Trump got 5 deferments.

        Mac45 in reply to YellowSnake. | July 26, 2017 at 9:03 pm

        Since you brought it up, what birther BS?

        Stay with me here. Barack Obama refused to do what every single American does multiple times during his life; produce a certified birth certificate. Then, when the “WH” produces one, it is shown to be, almost beyond ANY doubt, to be a forgery. Add in the lack of hospital birth records, the discrepancies with his social security number and his selective service registration the lack of any documentation to show that he reinstated his citizenship, and his reluctance to produce any college transcripts and other school records and one has to ask, what gives? Why the secrecy? Does a true birth certificate actually exist? If so, why was it never produced? Nearly everyone born in this country can produce, and has, a birth certificate, hospital records of their birth [if they were born in a hospital], baptismal certificates [if their parents belonged to a Christian church at the time of their birth], school records, college records, and many other records. None of which BO ever produced. IF DT had refused to provide such information, the press would hound him to his grave.

        So, exactly how did BO dismantle any “birther bs”? Barack Obama has never proven that he was born in this country. He has never proven that he reinstated his citizenship upon his return to this country. In fact, as everyone who “knew” him when he was a child is dead, there is no one to confirm his identity. So, exactly who is Barack Hussein Obama?

          YellowSnake in reply to Mac45. | July 26, 2017 at 9:17 pm

          I am sure that if you got your hands on my birth certificate you would find a reason to claim it was a forgery. Of course the US government doesn’t agree because they issue me a passport.

          Let me know when Trump releases his tax returns. What is he hiding?

          Mac45 in reply to Mac45. | July 26, 2017 at 9:44 pm

          Hey, you can’t have it both ways/ The BC is either a forgery or not. The easiest way to prove it is genuine is to have the State of Hawaii produce a copy. But, BO didn’t do that. If your birth certificate appeared to be altered or forged, then you would probably be required to produce one directly from a recognized state agency.

          I notice that you simply ignored all of the other strange things surrounding the records of Barack Obama/Barry Sowetoro. So, I have no idea how you would explain all of that.

          As to DT’s tax returns, why should he have to produce those? People scream about pre-employment background checks, and those do not include producing tax returns. How would you feel if you had to produce a tax return for a job? Besides, tax returns do not show any illegal activity or under the table income. Politicians don’t mind producing theirs, because questionable sources of income either do not show up on them or are listed as “speaking”, “appearance” and other innocuous fees. So, this is pretty much deflection, on our part.

          YellowSnake in reply to Mac45. | July 27, 2017 at 1:10 am

          Worst case we have just replace one grifter with another grifter. In the case of the latter, the are endless witnesses that have Trump lie, cheat and steal his whole career. Just ask the investors, partners and contractors that Trump screwed. Look at the promises he made and broke.

          You want to believe that Obama wasn’t born here. Feel free. Something tells me that you can recite chapter and verse on any loony right-wing talking point. Meanwhile Obama is gone and a man who can’t even keep his story straight for a sentence and whose concept of loyalty is a one way street is in the WH.

          Goodbye

    Colonel Travis in reply to YellowSnake. | July 26, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    Sen. Tim Johnson suffered from arteriovenous malformation. Not a stroke. A champion of non-hyperbole such as yourself should have known the difference.

      YellowSnake in reply to Colonel Travis. | July 26, 2017 at 8:36 pm

      Thank you for the correction except that an arteriovenous malformations is a hemorrhagic stroke. If wish to contest this point further, take it up with The American Stroke Association or WebMD. Unfortunately I had to learn about strokes because I had a loved one had one.

      But that little attempt at picking a nit is completely irrelevant to the point I was making. Since that was your only objection, can I assume we are in agreement?

      BTW, I am uncertain why a champion of non-hyperbole should be an expert on a medical condition, anyway. The point was that republicans /conservatives were just as inflamed. If you don’t believe me, go look it up. That is the nature of the internet.

        Colonel Travis in reply to YellowSnake. | July 26, 2017 at 11:06 pm

        Instead of pretending you know what’s going on, why don’t you take some time to look up things? You’re wrong. I’ll take his doctors over your alleged expertise, which doesn’t even rise to the level of Holiday Inn Express.

        “Johnson had brain surgery that night, and what doctors found was not the effects of a stroke, but rather an arteriovenous malformation, or AVM.”
        http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=3532159&page=1

          Colonel Travis in reply to Colonel Travis. | July 26, 2017 at 11:10 pm

          No, we are not in agreement. I picked this example because it was the quickest for me of your nonsense to refute. You’re a lazy thinker, your comments are terrible.

          YellowSnake in reply to Colonel Travis. | July 27, 2017 at 1:02 am

          What you seized on is irrelevant. The article was a complaint about the democratic reaction to McCain coming back because without his vote the latest feeble attempt to prolong the agony of the republicans shooting themselves in the foot and not having health insurance for treatment would have ended.

          I merely pointed out how republicans howled plenty when a SICK senator held onto his seat and kept the democrats in the majority. Then it was dirty pool. Now it is to be cheered.

          According to a site hosted by the American Heart Assoc and the American Stroke Assoc http://www.strokeassociation.org/STROKEORG/AboutStroke/TypesofStroke/Types-of-Stroke_UCM_308531_SubHomePage.jsp “Hemorrhagic stroke occurs when a weakened blood vessel ruptures. Two types of weakened blood vessels usually cause hemorrhagic stroke: aneurysms and arteriovenous malformations(AVMs). But the most common cause of hemorrhagic stroke is uncontrolled hypertension (high blood pressure).” It was reported at the time as a stroke and that is how I remembered it.

          Hemorrhagic Strokes

          These happen when there is bleeding in your brain that damages nearby cells. It can be caused by an aneurysm, which is a weak area in a blood vessel, that breaks open.

          http://www.webmd.com/stroke/guide/types-stroke “Another cause of hemorrhagic strokes is something called an AVM (arteriovenous malformation). That’s an abnormally formed blood vessel that opens up and bleeds.”

          So go argue with them.

          If you don’t have anything to offer on the actual point, then you can play gotcha with someone else. I am done. So you can write your commentaries on arteriovenous malformation to your heart’s content. Bye

My read is that having returned from the dead to cast what he expected to be a meaningless vote, McCain is now pissed that Rand Paul voted for it thus forcing Pence to cast the deciding vote. Pence could only vote one way.

McCain wanted the “repeal” effort to die so that ObamaCare would still be the law of the land. But he believed he could get the benefit of having voted for “repeal” in a lost cause. Paul forced it to Pence. Now the Dems are pissed at McCain because he is the one who failed to close the circled wagons. THAT is why they are pissed at him and not the other Republicans who voted for it.

Trump won that round of the chess match thanks to Rand Paul.

The best statistic I could find indicates about 3 million people die in the US each year. Just how are we going to get to 22 million?

nordic_prince | July 26, 2017 at 4:26 pm

BRUTAL REPUBLICAN TACTICS!!!!

Good Lord, you’d think the world is coming to an end. Sooooo sick of the Left’s histrionics.

The abortionists bray their disapproval of establishing affordable and available medical care without a progressive redistribution scheme a la Fannie/Freddie, and preferably a monopoly capital and control scheme (e.g. single-payer).

You would think the hyperventilating would run out of steam but I guess paranoid style of politics is their main tool.

This is always the way of the Left. If they don’t get their way on X, many people will die. People dying because of the Left is their history. People and governments die because of Leftism. Better idea, lets make the Left die. It would go a long way toward saving Western Civilization.

Democrats loved McCain, then they hated him, then they loved him again, now they hate him (again).

The GOPe should rename itself: “Syrup of Ipecac.”

Or, given the name is up for grabs: “GOPe Zero.”

All those who feel sorry for Maverick, please raise your hands.

I was just listening to Mark Levin and had to turn it off. He is treating today’s vote defeating Rand Paul’s “clean” repeal bill as a total capitulation by the Republicans to the Democrats and that single payer is now guaranteed.

I’ve been very busy all day and catching snippets of what was going on. I apparently missed something. I thought the MTP passed with Pence’s vote? Isn’t that all that was supposed to happen? Isn’t that what McCain is upset about? He prevailed over the Rand Paul bill when the Shifty Seven, including McCain, defected to the Dems. I’m confused. Where do we stand? Good or bad?

    Matt_SE in reply to Pasadena Phil. | July 26, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    We didn’t get a repeal, but we didn’t get saddled with owning it. The base will be furious and look to primary the GOP incumbents, but the GOP establishment will ensure that there are either as few challengers as possible or as many as possible.

Like his friend John Kerry, he voted [procedurally] for repeal before he voted against it when it mattered!

Progressivism is a cancer of the mind. It is too bad that the doctors couldn’t cut it out!

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