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Trump is right about Elizabeth Warren’s Native American problem

Trump is right about Elizabeth Warren’s Native American problem

Trump again uses Warren’s weak point to push back against her attacks.

Elizabeth Warren’s claim to be Native American is an issue that just won’t go away.

It dogged her during the 2012 Senate run, but she was able to deflect the issue through the help of supportive media and reliance on supposed “family lore,” Some of that “lore” was downright laughable, like the “high cheekbones” story which itself was questionable.

Much of the “lore,” or as much as was capable of being fact checked considering it was based on several decades-old stories, also was questionable.

Warren turns questioning of her story into an attack on her family, as a way of shutting down inquiry.

There is no evidence that Warren meets either part of the two-part test for claiming Native American status: Actual ancestry plus affiliation with a Native American tribe or otherwise living as a Native American. That’s the test used by two of Warren’s former employers, U. Penn and Harvard, as well as federal agencies.

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Genealogical research by Cherokee researchers could not find any evidence that Warren had Native American ancestry, and Warren never claimed to have affliated with a tribe. The family lore stories have been largely debunked, though it is possible what there were some family rumors as there were for many families in Oklahoma.

Very few people understand just how Warren claimed to be Native American, and why. The full version is summarized at, the website at which we accumulated all the research we did on Warren during the 2012 campaign. (Note: Her self-narrative has problems beyond the Native American issue — read, for example, about how she represented major corporations against the interests of consumers.)

The short version is that Warren never claimed Native American status until she was in her 30s, and climbing the law professor ladder.

In the 1980s, Warren listed her status as Native American when entering her biographical information in the national law professor directory that was used for hiring purposes by law schools. There was no internet then, and the paper directory was the source for information about prospective law professor hires. Entering herself as Native American landed Warren on a short list of “Minority Law Teachers” in the directory.

Elizabeth Warren 1986-87 AALS Directory Section List II Minority Law Teachers entry

Why would Warren do such a thing?

When this was expose during the 2012 campaign, Warren said that she wanted to meet other law professors who were Native American like her, maybe have lunch with them. The problem is that no one reading the directory would know she claimed to be Native American; that specific status was not listed, only that she was a “Minority Law Teacher.” So she could not possible meet other Native American law teachers through her listing.

Warren claims that she never told anyone at Harvard Law that she was Native American, but when she was a visiting professor at Harvard Law in the early 1990s she somehow ended up on a list of “Women of Color in Legal Academia.”

Soon after permanent hiring, Harvard Law touted her Native American status. Warren claimed when the Boston Herald exposed Harvard Law’s position not to know why she was promoted that way.

Did Warren get the Harvard Law job because she claimed to be Native American?

We don’t know, neither she nor Harvard Law have released her hiring file. But that’s not really the pertinent question. What we do know is that she tried to benefit from the claim, so at minimum there was an attempt to exploit that false claim.

Warren appears to the taking on the role of official Democratic attack dog on Trump. She has launched into Trump-like Twitter tirades against Trump recently. There is speculation that Hillary will make Warren her running mate to energized the Sanders’ supporters and because Warren is so good when in attack mode.

Trump responded tonight by raising the Native American issue again with typical bluntness.

Donald Trump is right about Warren on the Native American issue. It’s her weakness when portraying others as frauds.

Expect the media to cover for Warren again on her ethnic fraud. Liberal media types already are doing so.

But it may not work this time.


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I forget what I was listening to today, but someone brought up Warren and Trump’s initial response was “what?, oh you mean the Indian?” It was classic!

2nd Ammendment Mother | May 6, 2016 at 9:29 pm

It will have good effect if he coops all the Native American groups that she ticked off over the whole thing…. but….. the best ammunition would be to find out who else was up for the same position at Harvard that the “Native American” check box gave her the advantage over.

Do people really think this is a winning issue? That is what going to motivate voters to rush to the polls, to deny a fake indian VP slot?

    Valerie in reply to fwiffo. | May 7, 2016 at 9:02 am

    You mean a person willing to commit fraud for personal gain is still someone who should be considered for high public office?

    Who knew?

      MaggotAtBroadAndWall in reply to Valerie. | May 7, 2016 at 10:40 am

      I can’t tell if your remark is a veiled reference to the fact that there are at least three ongoing lawsuits accusing Trump of fraud.

      Cassie in reply to Valerie. | May 7, 2016 at 1:05 pm

      Yeah, well, if Hillary names Elizabeth Warren as her candidate for V.P., I will be staying home on election day.

      Why Elizabeth Warren didn’t get the “Rachel Dolezal” treatment from the media is beyond my understanding. She committed ethnic identity fraud in order to get a tenured job at Harvard! Warren never identified as Cherokee in her life until it was time to get a job as a law school professor:

      Warren, who Harvard Law School touted as its first ‘woman of color’ professor (really? what color would that be, pinkish-beige?) lied about having NA ancestry. Harvard was more than happy to not ask any questions about tribal enrollment and simply started reporting her to the federal government as a minority faculty member.

      Elizabeth Warren did the same thing as Rachel Dolezal, only minus the spray tan and weave. Girlfriend was smart and chose a much more underrepresented ethnicity than Dolezal did. only she is a US Senator instead of just being director of the local NAACP.

If pork is the ‘other’ white meat, Warren is the ‘other’ Mrs. Scum. (The first Mrs. Scum running for president.)

Does loopy Lizzie support the E.P.A. up & down the line like pretty much every lefty N. E. professor does? What does she think of that E.P.A.’s poisoning of the Navaho Nation & Ute Mtn. Tribes when they deliberately breached the Gold King mine plug? When they contracted with corrupt crony suppliers to provide oil contaminated water tanks for the Nation & tribe delivered to Shiprock?
When that same corrupt E.P.A. is working to close down an in compliance coal fired power plant near Page that provides hundreds if not thousands of jobs to a people with a 52% unemployment rate, a 43% poverty level. A native people whose income level is half the national average.
But then Loopy is allegedly Cherokee, that gives her a pass on gov’t treatment of other Indians.

With the attention Trump gets, Lizzy’s Phoahaontas lies way we’ll catch up with her

As @RealDenaldTrump tweeted today, Warren’s tweet promising to fight the Donald got 12K+ retweets, which is way more than any of Donald’s excepting the one where he ate tacos.

True story: while arguing politics with a knee-jerk liberal woman (arrogant as they come, and as ignorant as she was arrogant) I mentioned Warren’s claim to being part American Indian to get into Harvard.

The lib was appalled – turns out the lib was full Cherokee. Ruined her evening.

This site has become impossible to discuss serious issues on. Anytime I try it gets ignored & overridden by some fool like Edge.
Trump & taco’s for the umpteenth time.
The EPA is seriously abusing the Navajo, Ute & Hopi people. It’s breaking understandings,refusing to accept its responsibility’s, doing nothing to alleviate problems it has caused. Because the media are largely in the tank for federal agencies like the EPA the noncoverage of these stories is a scandal.
The EPA is asserting unparalleled authority in the areas of water, power & air. They are rendering the concept of private property meaningless. They have neutered the 9th & 10th amendments.
Liberals don’t care, conservatives don’t care, the precious republican party dammed well doesn’t care.
All this could be hung around the neck’s of the statist’s. Republican’s won’t do it. They’re to busy scheduling joint appearance’s with Colorado’s up for reelection democrat senator.
On this site we must defend the “integrity” of that republican party from takeover by hostile elements of the party.
Trump bad, tacos, a constitution twisted to serve the purposes of a particularly sick ideology, social contract set up to serve the end’s of that sick ideology. Crooked elections & rigged conventions & caucuses.
A fool who calls out fascists & has no idea of what fascism is.
“Our side must prevail, it is our rightful time.”
This is what this “high brow” site has become.

    inspectorudy in reply to secondwind. | May 7, 2016 at 11:41 am

    I believe it’s time for you to move on. Find an intellectual site where your gifted talents will be appreciated!

      JasonJay in reply to inspectorudy. | May 7, 2016 at 2:04 pm

      Another guardian of the free exchange of ideas heard from.

      Or to paraphrase that savant of free expression , WC Fields, “Go Away Pal, ya bother me!”

      This site needs a name change: legal-intolerance

Long before Harvard Law, Warren became a Native American to get a job on the faculty of Penn Law after her husband got a job there, thus breaking up their married life together at Texas Law School. She was refused by Penn Law when her husband sought a job for her because she had no prominent speciality justifying an Ivy League faculty job. Then she checked the box for Native American in THE directory, husband brought that to the attention of Penn Law and Eureka! she had a job offer. Her husband has never been quizzed about his role in this deception. Check out the timing of him and her going to Penn Law.

Te real test will be if anything comes from this new found interest in Warren’s unsubstantiated claim. Of course, liberals could just claim that you should be allowed to be what you want so if a man identifies as a woman, then he’s a woman, if a white person identifies as a black, then they are a black, and so forth. Of course, the biggest ripple effect of all of this is that Affirmative Action, quotes for race related events such as how many children are disciplined in schools, and so forth, become utterly nonsensical. And to think that people actually have to wonder why conservative values work while liberal values cause more problems than anything else.

Warren and the liberal media covering up her con job in the Massachusetts Senate Race is not going to be so easy in the rest of the country especially if she runs as VP…Say what you want about Trump, but he will force her problem into the limelight across all media platforms…

inspectorudy | May 7, 2016 at 11:46 am

I wish that being exposed for being a liar meant instant political death but in the Demorat party, it is meaningless. Remember Sidney Blumenthal in CT? He lied so many times about being in Vietnam that even he lost sight of the number. Ted Kennedy? John Kerry? Bill clinton? obama, hillary? Harry Reid? Anthony Weiner?Ben Rhodes? Lying to a Demorat is a resume enhancer.

She will not be the VP pick…Goldman Sachs says so.

David Breznick | May 7, 2016 at 5:22 pm

Donald, it’s “Liawatha Lizzie”.

Yet she lectures with sanctimonious indignation about what is right and wrong.

She suffers no tangible effects from her decisions that impact others.

What’s as bad is that the programs designed to help minorities often help upper class minorities that don’t need or deserve the advantage.

    Ragspierre in reply to oldschooltwentysix. | May 7, 2016 at 6:09 pm

    Yet Der Donald lectures with sanctimonious indignation about what is right and wrong.

    HE suffers no tangible effects from his decisions that impact others.

    What’s as bad is that the programs designed to help SMALL BUSINESSES often help upper class MOGULS that don’t need or deserve the advantage.

    Just some perspective…

      You really have an axe to grind with your “perspective,” so what can I say?

      To take a comment about Elizabeth Warren’s abuse, and make it about Trump, is revealing.

      It’s not like you actually add much anyway because the agenda is so predictable.

      I understand, you hate Trump.

      Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | May 7, 2016 at 6:37 pm

      Abuses is abuse.

      I won’t condemn it in Warren (another Collectivist like T-rump) and ignore it in Der Donald.

        Whatever. To claim you are fair in your analysis is the most absurd thing of the day.

        Have at it.

        Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | May 7, 2016 at 7:07 pm

        This is where the lies begin. I made no claim to being “fair”. That term has no meaning, objectively.

        “Consistent” is all I shoot for.

          David Breznick in reply to Ragspierre. | May 7, 2016 at 8:04 pm

          The other day one of my colleagues said something that was knowingly untruthful. I called him a “Lying liar who lies.”

          The result was that he must have felt ashamed because he then admitted the truth. This is a true story. It happened this past Tuesday.

          So thank you Ragspierre. That was actually very effective. I am not making this up.

      Barry in reply to Ragspierre. | May 7, 2016 at 11:11 pm

      Just some perspective…

      You link, as usual, to fervent TDS websites, and then prove nothing.

      Your first link appears to have you taking up for Hillary. Of course, I’m not surprised. For all your talk about being a conservative, you’re really a Hillary supporter.

      Your second link describes a qualifying business receiving funds earmarked for the qualifying business. What a huge surprise! For the record, given the huge amount of tax I pay, any government program that should pop up and allow me to recoup some of that tax money, I will take advantage of. Any sane person would do the same. I’m sure you don’t take advantage of all tax loopholes, right?


Looks like she replied

If she was going for Trump-style tweets, like it seems, it didn’t work. To do it right, you need shorter words, shorter sentences and more rambling. Likewise, her vocabulary is a little too broad to make it a real Trump-style tweet.