Obama: Sure, I could win a third term
. . . if it weren’t for that pesky Constitution
Over the years, Obama has lamented the fact that he’s not a king, an emperor, or a dictator and has stated that it would be “so much easier to be president of China.” He also stated no fewer than 22 times that he does not have the authority for executive amnesty . . . before doing it.
Apparently recognizing the limitations of being the president of the United States, Obama can’t help musing about a third term. He thinks he’d win.
While Obama seems confident of his ability to win a third term, if such a thing were permitted by the Constitution and we know it’s not, a Rasmussen poll found:
Most Democrats (57%) would vote to give Obama a third term. Ninety-three percent (93%) of Republicans, 68% of voters not affiliated with either major party – and 32% of Democrats – would not.
Obama defeated Republican nominee John McCain by a 53% to 46% margin in 2008 and was reelected with 51% of the vote against GOP candidate Mitt Romney in 2012.
An amendment to the U.S. Constitution prohibits presidential candidates from being elected to more than two four-year terms. Nineteen percent (19%) of all voters believe that amendment should be changed so presidents can serve longer. Seventy-eight percent (78%) oppose such a change.
Interestingly, only 32% of Democrats support changing this amendment. Ninety percent (90%) of GOP voters and 82% of unaffiliateds are opposed.
Of course, Obama is not the first president to publicly state that he’d win a third term; Bill Clinton said the same thing in 2000. Who knows if either would have or would win a third term—certainly not me, I didn’t think Obama would win a second term. The more interesting question is whether anyone would stop Obama if he tried.
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Well, he usually tells us what he can’t do right before he does it. Spit.
Well the truth he should have said was…..(Let me correct it for Barrack) Obama: “Sure, I could STEAL a third term…”
Obama says, “I”m a pretty good president.”
God says, “Praise should come from another person and not from your own mouth.” Proverbs 27:2
“You say you want a revolution, well, you know…”
Please anyone trying to get this out the video for Cincinnati cop they missed a major error He was dragged and simple 10 seconds will show it , Samuels car up at top of hill 40 so yards up ,he fights inside car with him shoots him falls gets up there is a car there ,disregard it me turns silver car there definite at his 45 ,only 20 so yards and he is on left looks like Samuels was going to take and swipe him off at the guardrail . Now you ask yourself why they did not release Tensing s dash cam
Such a declaration from such a narcissist would be conspicuous only in its absence.
It is a difference of at least half the distance between where Samuels car was originally and the silver car ,he was dragged it is apparent . The difference between the supposed place of shot and real place of shot about 20 yards.While they were wrestling car was rolling. That is why the command was stop and not something like ( let go of the gear shift, don’t do this or that .Plain He wanted him to stop. If he just wanted him to not put it in gear or turn off the car , Would you use stop.Would you use that to tell him to turn off the car or to leave the gear shift alone .He said stop because they were moving ,See thread in conservative tree house also
“If you want to keep your president, you can keep your president.”
Obama is gonna run again. The GOP will say nothing. The SCt will write some opinion out of the ether claiming victory for him.
White Progressive Communist America will rejoice because it’s all about power, abortion, ending capitalism, destroying Western civilization, telling us what to think say and do, and making themselves gods.
Black America, jobless, government dependent, racist (not all, but enough), needful of the siren call of Obama’s demagogy, will turn out in droves and vote for him. It’s all about power, about group revenge, about payback, about getting whitey, about tearing the evil, racist, oppressive America down, about having a president whose skin is brown, no matter how much the nation suffers.
Yep, he was and will be shooting his mouth off, first, testing the water temp, secondly, ‘I’am running, whatsa’ constitution’!..
He’s too big a narcissist to martyr himself for the progressive cause.
That’s ridiculous. No matter what happens, one thing is absolutely certain: as of 12:00:01 EST (17:00:01 UTC) on 20-Jan-2017, Barack 0bama will not be president or commander in chief, and the army will cease obeying his orders.
He can run all he likes. Republican secretaries of state will not put him on the ballot. And so long as the House stays Republican, if the electors from some states vote for him the House will not count those votes. End of story.
Exactly. If he tries staying around a minute after his term is over, the army will arrest him.
No, he won’t. Sure, he would stay in power if he thought he could get away with it, but at his core Barack Obama is a lazy, lazy man. He does as little as he can get away with, and he never takes risks. He knows even he couldn’t get away with *that*.
No, he’ll run out his remaining term, doing as little as possible besides going after Republicans. After that, he’ll become the worst ex-president in the history of the country… he’ll be constantly in the headlines commenting on his successors’ policies, making speeches for hundreds of thousands of dollars, and behaving like the royalty for the rest of his life. Why risk that to stay in power for a few more years?
What I think he is seriously considering is running Michelle for his third term. She doesn’t want to give up the good life. And Jarrett doesn’t want to go back to Chicago. So she will run, and it will be understood by all that if she wins she will do what Jarrett says, just as he does now.
To be honest, I feel almost as much revulsion watching that video, as the PP videos.
For a different reason.
Whenever Obama says that he could do something, but it would be wrong because of the law or Constitution, he always ends up doing it. And he always gets away with it. There is something in his psychological makeup that makes him give that “tell”.
See the declaration of the right to rule by decree [Amnesty, now ratified and funded by the Republican Congress], the right to change laws, ignore laws, and invent ones at will in immigration, the right to create things not in Obamacare, etc. Pen and Phone indeed.
In every one of these cases, after a bit of pro-forma whining, the Republicans went along happily. I’d bet that if he offered that incumbent Republicans could keep their jobs, pay, perks, graft, and status while he does all the messy governing; that the Republican Party would take that deal every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
I don’t think it will be an election, because they are so messy, voters are so untrustworthy to vote the “right” way, and even as corrupt as our election system is; it would be hard to create a victory that would be credible to anyone. Just the Pen. And maybe a Phone Call. The Federal courts will either support any wild-ass claims he makes, or will simply declare that there is no one but Obama in the country who has “standing” to file suit. If the law means whatever the Executive divines as what it really, really means irrespective of the actual text [King -v- Burwell] what mechanism is there to stop him, other than the 4th box?
I don’t think it will be an election, because they are so messy….
There will probably be a big “crisis” that will require that elections be postponed [indefinitely] and that we keep his calm, experienced hand guiding the ship of state.
Stop it. Just stop it. This cannot happen, and you know it.
No, of course nobody has standing to stop him from running. There’s nothing in the constitution that says he can’t run, it just says he can’t be elected. So if he wants to run he’ll run, but he won’t win.
And there will definitely be an election. There has to be one, or when his term runs out there is no president and no vice president, so the speaker of the House takes over, and nobody except Boehner wants that! No matter what happens an Electoral College will meet and send its votes to Washington, and the House it will count those votes and declare a winner. Assuming Team R keeps the House, it will ignore all votes cast for ineligible candidates, including BH0.
I understand where you are coming from, and you are depending on the power of Constitutional law, the rule of law, and the system of checks and balances.
We are speaking of real power politics as practiced in the rest of the world.
The Constitution and the rule of law have been rendered moot since the day of his inauguration. There is no system of checks and balances left. Congress, even a Congress that was delivered to what was the supposedly the opposition party, has not fought him on anything, ratified and funded his every illegal and unconstitutional wish, has openly discarded the power of the purse which is the ultimate weapon in a constitutional republic, and is busily running away from every check and balance listed in the Constitution.
The courts have become rubber stamps, literally, since King -v- Burwell was decided in June.
Not one illegal or unconstitutional Executive Branch action, up to and including rule by decree, has been stopped or rolled back by courts or Congress since Obama’s inauguration. Not one Executive Branch employee/appointee has been punished or sanctioned in any way since Obama’s inauguration.
Subpoena’s are routinely ignored or defied. Perjury under oath by Executive Branch employees has been routinely tolerated. Both the current and previous Attorney General have testified under oath before Congress that they believe that the President has the legal and Constitutional power to rule by decree outside the framework of Federal law and the Constitution. And not one peep of opposition out of either party in Congress.
Incidentally, in the midst of all that, the command of the military has been purged and it is now run by politically correct generals and admirals who will follow whatever orders they are given.
For the first time in our country’s history, every civilian organization in the Executive Branch is armed like the military. The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration . . . weathermen . . . has their own SWAT teams and buy millions of rounds of military ammunition a year.
I have lived in Colorado for all except the first few years of my life. And I am retired now. We have a large military presence here, and I am well used to it. For over a decade, I had a sideline as a writer for various defense journals, and I have been through, briefed on, and played downrange on pretty much every military facility in a couple of states. I am well used to the military.
For the first time in my lifetime we have convoys of combat vehicles [Infantry Fighting Vehicles and Armored Personnel Carriers] in full battle rattle going in convoy on back roads through small mountain towns. Not the usual Hummers, trucks, or specialized transporters and logistics vehicles, but combat vehicles.
There are Federal rules as to how low aircraft can fly, especially over populated areas. We are used to seeing military attack helicopters and aircraft around, above 500′. Now we are seeing them below 300′, near and over towns.
The assumption is that all this is for intimidation.
Where are the checks and balances, and who is there to use them? In their absence, we are no longer in the world of a constitutional republic.
I know I sound . . . exercised on this issue. I am. I don’t know how much political science and history you have studied. I have been studying them all my life. I would humbly offer that you may want to take a look at how republics fall from within, and the mechanisms of a coup d’ etat. Edward Luttwak has an excellent book on the topic from the 1960’s as a primer.
I do know that throughout his terms, Obama has repeatedly mentioned being able to do something, except for being barred by law; and then gone ahead and done it with impunity. His statements about a 3rd term are a “tell”, quite possibly. And I actually think it won’t be an election. donb above probably is close to the truth.
That is an outright falsehood.
al-Chicagi had best cut a deal with the incoming President, otherwise its illegal for felons to run for public office and he can’t (legally) pardon himself.
Recall that when Ford pardoned Nixon, some days or so after Nixon left office, the pardon was for whatever acts Nixon might have done before leaving office; at least, TTBOMR, so help me Hanna.
Also, one major point of contention during the 1787 Constitutional Convention was regarding the pardon power of the president. There is no restriction on the president’s pardon power nor any ability to undo or to modify said pardon for prior acts. Obviously, a president cannot grant a pardon for future events.
That said, no pardon granted by a president for prior acts could ever be said to be illegal; the pardon itself that is. Bribing a president could be charged and that president and the other party could be charged after the fact. The pardon itself would stand, whether anyone liked that fact or not. Whatever Clinton did regarding having the DoJ review all pardon petitions was window dressing and perhaps other presidents have had the same kind of process and so what!
So, why couldn’t a president pardon himself for any and all prior acts before leaving office?
How would that presidential pardon act be illegal, under our current Constitution? Immoral, yes! Not proper, yes! Illegal, no!
It is not illegal for felons to run for office. Where did you get that idea? The only requirements for the presidency are: 1) At least 35 years old; 2) natural born citizen; 3) resident for at least 14 years. Charles Manson can be elected president.
Someone convicted of treason cannot be President unless Congress says okay. A pardon by a president does not count.
We never got to see Kerry’s original DD214.
Don’t understand how you’ve reached your conclusion regarding treason?
A president’s pardon power is absolute, the Constitution does not place any limits on the president granting a pardon. Heck, AFAIK, Milhouse is correct that a felon could become president; would make one heck of an election issue, mostly. Plus, the legal qualification requirements for the president do not specify what you’re saying.
But, regardless, PBUT!
OTOH: SCOTUS has had a bad habit of twisting the wording of our laws, and the Constitution itself, around. The plain black letter meaning of a law’s words mean whatever SCOTUS says it means! Bummer.
PS: And he’d probably be a better president than the incumbent.
Hard to figure how he thinks that. In 2012, Obamacare was still a “coming attraction” and they had successfully covered up Benghazi. Now after the “successes” in Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Iraq, the South China Sea, and now Iran, the record could not be hidden.
Not that similar numbers of blacks and socialists might not vote for him again, but many of the borderline voters have seen the light.
One of our Insurrectionistas has previously noted the way he will circumvent the law to be allowed two more terms, and even found a draft of his announcement speech! (Please note the date 😉 on the report.)
I’m sure Clinton would have won in 2000 had he been eligible. He was still very popular. Even Algore made it to a statistical tie on his coattails, so imagine if he were the candidate.