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‘Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding’

‘Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding’

That time Obama invented a new version of early American history

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Wednesday, while speaking at a White House Conference on countering violent extremism, Obama claimed, “Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding.”

“Generations of Muslim immigrants came here and went to work as farmers and merchants and factory workers, helped to lay railroads and to build up America. The first Islamic center was founded in the 1890s. America’s first mosque, this is an interesting fact, was in North Dakota.”

As CNS News points out, this is not the first time Obama has made this fictitious claim:

“I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story,” Obama said in a June 2009 speech in Cairo, Egypt. “Islam has always been part of America,” he said in a 2010 statement marking the start of Ramadan. And in a 2014 statement marking Eid, Obama said the holiday “also reminds us of the many achievements and contributions of Muslim Americans to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy.”

If by being forced to create a navy and fight two wars against Muslim pirates and privateers, then Obama’s version of history might be sort of accurate, otherwise, I have no clue where this man gets his history. John Adams created a standing navy to deal with Muslim pirates (or Barbary Corsairs). Thomas Jefferson had to go to war (First Barbary War) when he refused to pay tribute to the Barbary Corsairs who were kidnapping merchant marines for ransom and seizing American merchant ships. James Madison was at the helm for Second Barbary War in 1815. But maybe they don’t teach that stuff at ivy league schools.

I’m offended by very little President Obama does or says because I expect him to do and say the things he does and says; that whole managing expectations thing. Although when he said Republicans should sit in the back of the bus, I was fit to be tied. Similarly, deliberately false historical statements have a way of making my blood boil.

“All politicians lie!” True. But fudging legislative or personal history facts is quite different from actually rewriting history.

Fabricating facts to sell junk legislation is as old a practice as politics itself, and most politicians engage in colorful exaggerations to some degree. They are projecting and predicting what voters want to hear the best case scenario in order to sell their product to the public. Lies told in pursuit of legislative or re-election success carry some amount of accountability though. Take a look at Democratic Senators who voted for Obamacare, for instance. Those that peddled the health care nightmare lost their seats when promises went unfulfilled.

No such culpability is available to a President who concocts and entirely different version of history than what actually transpired. Not to mention the hubris it takes to have as part of historical record, the fact that one consistently mucks up verifiable fact.

That Obama’s version of history is meant to soften a brutally, violent history of an ideological adversary we are currently warring is merely the icing on the fib cake. Paul Hamilton summed up the issue of decorum perfectly, “I could see FDR trying to make this point about the Germans during WWII because Baron von Steuben was a hero of Valley Forge… but FDR wouldn’t have; because WWII was a war not a public relations effort.”

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Well, Muslims sure helped a lot of Africans get to America.

Every time bho opens his mouth he confirms that Rudy Giuliani
spoke the truth !

“I have quoted before my old friend Theodore Dalrymple on the purposes of lies in totalitarian societies:

‘In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control.’

We are at war with a depraved enemy, but we cannot be allowed to assert our moral superiority even to head-choppers, rapists, slavers and immolators. Thus the priority of Barack (“Hey, how ’bout those Crusades?”) Obama has been to undermine our sense of probity, and make us not merely equivalent to but worse than our enemies. That was the purpose of this last week of Official Lies.”
—Mark Steyn, today

I read someone on Twitchy yesterday say something to the effect…

1. Collectivists hate patriotism

2. Collectivist hate worse having their patriotism questioned

I believe that to be correct. They are evil, and they hate it when you identify them as evil.

    snopercod in reply to Ragspierre. | February 21, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    …the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate

    Exactly. That’s also the goal of all these photos of Obama making faces in the mirrow and playing with his selfie-stick: To show Americans how stupid they were to have elected him.

    Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to Ragspierre. | February 21, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    Thanks Rags. Here’s a link to the quote in an entire interview with Theodore.

    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=7445

    ‘Dalrymple: Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

    “They are evil, and they hate it when you identify them as evil.”

    Recall the lefts reaction to Reagan calling the USSR evil.

He read it in the same book where he found George Washington sleeping in the White House and his uncle liberating Auschwitz.

The man is a narcissistic psychopath. Defined by:
• Glibness/superficial charm
• Grandiose sense of self-worth
• Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
• Pathological lying
• Cunning/manipulative
• Lack of remorse or guilt
• Shallow affect [i.e. superficial experience and expression of emotions]
• Callous/lack of empathy

“…is merely the icing on the fib cake.”

Using the word “fib” makes it sound innocent and cute. The proper word is LIE.

obama’s constant lies and actions designed to weaken America evidence not just that he does not like America, but that he is attempting to destroy it. obama acts with malice toward everything American.

Has Obama ever wondered what the line, “From the Halls of Montezuma, to the Shores of Tripoli” refers to?

I doubt it. He doesn’t even know the correct pronunciation of “Marine Corps”.

We have an incurious fool as a President.

Liar In Chief

“I have no clue where this man gets his history.”
_____________________

I do. He pulls it out of his ass. Unfortunately, his ass is just as ignorant as the rest of him.

Maybe somebody should explain to our “genius” president that there were no factories or railroads in the colonies, and that 1890 was more than a full century after our nation’s founding.

I’m less interested in Obama’s obvious lies about the essential role Muslims played in our nation’s founding than in his reason for telling these outrageous lies. Is this just more of his condescending “let’s give Muslims credit for things they didn’t actually do in order to bolster their self-esteem” schtick (as in his infamous “Cairo speech” in which he credited Muslims with all sorts of accomplishments — such as inventing algebra — that they didn’t do)? Or is there another, more insidious reason for the lies? There was some blow-back this week over Obama’s plans to bring hundreds of thousands of Syrian Muslims to the U.S. as “refugees.” Are Obama’s lies about Muslims having been essential to America’s founding some type of pre-emptive groundwork to justify flooding the U.S. with even more Muslim immigrants?

    Doug Wright Old Grouchy in reply to Observer. | February 24, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    Take a close look at the contents of Obama’s ideology bag! You might be surprised, or not!

    That bag contains every bit of O’s ideology, ready to be distributed as needed.

Even his personal history is a collection of lies. The truth is as sealed as his college records.

This from the guy who thought there were 57 states.

Seriously, he doesn’t even like America. Didn’t grow up here. Doesn’t know anything about the place and by all appearances doesn’t want to.

    Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to Same Same. | February 21, 2015 at 4:53 pm

    The Real Manchurian Candidate from the East.

    58
    been to 57 and have 1 more to go.
    now to be fair (I shudder doing this for him) I think he was tired and speaking of his continental 48 state tour, been to 47 and have 1 more to go would have been correct.

    but the error was for 58 states not 57.

      Barry in reply to dmacleo. | February 21, 2015 at 6:24 pm

      “now to be fair”

      Not me. He’s a dumb son of a bitch that doesn’t know how many states there are. Most of what he says are just outright lies. Most of those lies have his stupidity thread through them. Half the population is just too damn stupid to know he is making shit up.

      Sammy Finkelman in reply to dmacleo. | February 22, 2015 at 12:07 pm

      Obama just got alittle bot mixed up. I know where the 57 comes from: that’s the number of different delegations to the Democratic National Convention.

      There are the 50 states, which are on the quarters from 1999 through 2008, and there are 6 other places, which are on the 2009 quarters.

      51) District of Columbia

      52) Puerto Rico

      53) Virgin Islands

      54) Guam

      55) American Samoa

      56) Northen Mariannas.

      #57 was Democrats Abroad. There was not a similar delegation to the Republican National Convention.

Unbeknownst to many, it’s just as likely that Islam was woven into the creativity of the Beatles.

What about Charles Pinckney, the South Carolinian founding father who championed the rights of the Moroccan community in his state to practice their religion? (He is responsible for the Moors Sundry Act (1790), which designated that Moroccan Muslim community as white for purposes of the law). Pinckney later was the one who drafted the bar against having religious tests for holding public office in Article VI of the Constitution.

There are also records of Muslims who fought for the American side in the Revolutionary War, like Peter Salem, Yusuf ben Ali, and Bampett Muhamed.

The fact that Thomas Jefferson went to war with the Barbary States does not mean that there weren’t Muslims in the U.S. at that time (and earlier). I think your case that the President is lying on this point is really weak.

    Radegunda in reply to upyernoz. | February 22, 2015 at 2:01 am

    I don’t see anyone saying that he’s “lying.” He probably believes his fanciful version of history — just as much as he believes that ISIS is not Islamic. That doesn’t make what he’s saying true. He’s an ill-informed man with an agenda, in which protecting Islam takes a high priority.

    A handful of Muslims in the country’s early years does not exactly amount to Islam being woven into the fabric of the country. The need to defend against Muslim pirates — who were following the centuries-old pattern of aggression against “infidels” — was a far more important Islamic “contribution” to the nation’s development, as was the prominent Islamic role in the slave trade.

    Beyond that, Islam had negligible (if any) influence on the shaping of this country’s culture and institutions — fortunately for all non-Muslims. Until recently, most Americans had probably never met a Muslim resident of the U.S. or seen a mosque or a hijab on American streets.

    It is relatively recently that Muslims began entering the country in large numbers and making their presence felt and demanding that the culture be changed to suit their wishes. And the “contribution” of Muslims to our culture in modern times is overwhelmingly negative.

      I don’t see anyone saying that he’s “lying.”

      Really? Then why is this paragraph in the post:

      “‘All politicians lie!’ True. But fudging legislative or personal history facts is quite different from actually rewriting history.”

      A handful of Muslims in the country’s early years does not exactly amount to Islam being woven into the fabric of the country.

      Sure, but advocacy for a Muslim community by one of the people who drafted the constitution–in fact, the person who wrote the only reference to religion in the original text of the constitution–I think is evidence that Muslim communities influenced the formation of this country.

    If anyone wants to know where “up yer noz” is coming from, click on his/her screen name and check out his/her blog. Good grief.

    Barry in reply to upyernoz. | February 22, 2015 at 7:38 pm

    B.S.

    There was zero contribution by muslims in the formation of this country. That there were a few muslim residents in the vast sea of other people does not make a contribution worthy of saying that “Islam has been woven into the fabric of our country since its founding”.

    The president just makes shit up. And you true believers, picking your noses, believe it all.

    Yes, Obama is a liar. There is no history from which a person could draw upon to believe this.

Paul In Sweden | February 22, 2015 at 3:18 am

It is too late in Obama’s second term. He just does not have enough time to restore the Taliban throughout Afghanistan and turn over every government in the ME & N. Africa to terrorists.

New York has legislated that if another Manchurian candidate is not elected in 2016 they will destroy their records of their complicity in aiding the illegal alien trafficking.

Should a Republican be put in the WH, all efforts should be made to utilize the paper trail provided by the conspirators in each and every state.

YOU LIE!!!!

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