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#Ferguson Missouri, Domestic War Zone

#Ferguson Missouri, Domestic War Zone

The only thing clear about what’s going on in Ferguson is that nothing is clear.

The situation in Ferguson, Missouri has gone from bad to worse following the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teen Saturday afternoon. Protests and riots persist, cops dressed in full riot gear are working to curb the violence, community leaders are encouraging peaceful protests, and there’s still no clear picture of what actually transpired Saturday when Michael Brown was shot and killed.

There appear to be conflicting reports from law enforcement and supposed eye witnesses regarding what actually happened. Law enforcement claim Brown assaulted the cop that took his life. Dorin Johnson who claims he was with Brown at the time he was shot has a very different story. Johnson says he and Brown were minding their own business when a cop rolled up, told them to get on the sidewalk, then proceeded to assault Brown and eventually kill him.

Johnson’s story seems to corroborate with another supposed eye witness, Piaget Crenshaw.

Even more curious is that Johnson claims he, by way of his attorney, has reached out to local law enforcement to provide his account of the story, and Ferguson police are refusing to interview him. Chris Hayes interviewed Johnson and has a great summation of the various accounts:

Brown’s family has retained Benjamin Crump. Crump represented Treyvon Martin’s family after Martin was fatally shot by George Zimmerman.

Ferguson police intended to release the name of the officer who killed Brown in press conference Tuesday, but have not yet done so in order to protect him. The officer is currently on administrative leave.

The Washington Post has a horrifying account of what it’s like on the ground where law enforcement is using tear gas to quell the riots:

And, taking to the streets again Monday night, locals were met with tear gas and rubber bullets.

Protests against police brutality turned contentious early Monday evening, leading to a standoff between several dozen local residents and dozens of officers in full  riot gear just blocks from where Brown was gunned down.

In an attempt to disperse the crowd, officers made their way down West Florissant, a main street in Ferguson. When some residents, chanting “Don’t shoot, my hands are up,” refused to leave, officers began deploying tear gas.

“I’m under siege,” said Donald Harry, whose house sits at the corner of  West Florissant and Nesbit, where residents gathered and yelled at police who approached.

The previous night, rioters shot out the back window of the black SUV that sits in Harry’s driveway. Tonight, however, it was the police he was worried about.

“I’ve got my family in here,” Harry said, pointing back to his home as a tear gas canister landed in his yard, ignited and sent him and this reporter ducking behind shrubbery.

As police moved up West Florissant, many residents said they were trapped. The neighborhood consists of a series of cul-de-sacs with one main road — West Florissant, now blocked by police — stretching between them.

“I was just trying to get to my sister’s house,” cried one 23-year-old, who lay sobbing on a lawn.

He said he was walking home when officers approached him and sprayed tear gas in his face and peppered him with rubber bullets.

“This is beyond Mike Brown; this is about all of us,” said Edward Crawford, 25.

“The looting was wrong, but so is this. This is excessive force,” he said as a tear gas canister landed just behind him.

Newsweek has a pretty incredible photo gallery.

As if this wasn’t enough, another shooting occurred last night when a rioter pulled gun on a cop:

The station quotes St. Louis County police spokesman Brian Schellman as saying officers responded to a report of four men wearing ski masks armed with shotguns, as well of reports of shots fired in the area.

When they arrived, he says, they found more than two dozen suspects fleeing on foot.

At one point, an officer confronted a suspect who, Schellman says, pulled a handgun on the officer.

“In fear for his life, the officer shot the subject,” Schellman continued. He was taken to a hospital in critical condition. The suspect’s handgun was recovered at the scene.

Separately, said Schellman, one person was injured in a drive-by shooting in Ferguson early Wednesday.

He said the incident involved several males in a black sedan, and a female was shot once in the head. He said she was taken to a hospital with injuries that did not appear life-threatening.

Schellman said the shooting occurred in the same vicinity as the protests over the death of 18-year-old Michael Brown.

At least Ferguson, Missouri has the support of Wiz Khalifa.

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Comments

Not A Member of Any Organized Political | August 13, 2014 at 4:06 pm

In my opinion, one thing is very clear.

It is all mass media (old MSM) incited!

Since August started all sorts of “ginned up” FAKE racism is being broadcast by the lie-stream media. In about 1/2 hour TMZ focused on 3, that’s right 3, un-related, “relevant-to-nothing” “racism” discussions.

The Journalisters are doing this to try and support the Democrats this fall.

That’s a nice, very new shirt that Dorin’s wearing. It does a great job in hiding all the probable tats underneath. He’s cleaned up, shaven, and probably smells good, too! ‘Plugs’ Biden might even give this young lad a great recommendation … and who knows … perhaps a state legislative or presidency job is in his future.

    MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to walls. | August 13, 2014 at 7:14 pm

    No probably about it. He’s got them.

    steveo1 in reply to walls. | August 13, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    But now there is another witness, Tiffany Mitchell, 27, who took some video but not of the exact scene. She pretty much corroborates the Johnson story at least the part after the leo got out of the car,chased the kid, shot the kid in the back and then he turned to surrender and the leo kept shooting. Plus the SUV is in a position in the street that indicates that the leo drove in front of the teenagers to block their path, like Johnson said. Alot of Johnson’s story is being corroborated.

      My understanding is that their path was in the middle of the freaking street, walking lengthwise down it, not across it, and that even the African-American eyewitness accounts have them dismissing the police officer’s orders with something like, “Yeah, in a minute.”

        Should walking in the street by youth be grounds for a summary and immediate State-sanctioned execution? If so, come next Spring Break, the streets of Daytona Beach are going to be littered with the corpses of white Midwesterners.

          steveo1 in reply to Amy in FL. | August 14, 2014 at 8:50 am

          We had the same issue with our HOA in FL. Adults complaining that the kids were walking in the street after school. I said ck out early am when all the seniors are out walking, and I almost run them over when I’m backing out to go to work. Did the police scold the seniors, no, just the kids. If the pd scolded the seniors, they’d need a new sheriff, and the county commissioners would be looking for different careers.

          I’m not joining the issues together without more facts. I just wanted to make clear that “pedestrian” is misleading when it’s not even jaywalking, it’s treating the street as a sidewalk.

          The problem is, there’s walking in the street (and staying there for an extended period)… then there’s ignoring an armed police officer in an equally deadly vehicle telling you to get off the street. It’s stupid. And any half-whispered intimation that the youths had a right to do that won’t change that it’s stupid, no matter the skin color.

          Ragspierre in reply to Amy in FL. | August 14, 2014 at 2:57 pm

          Um…no.

          What evidence do you have for that CRAZY allegation, mad woman?

JackRussellTerrierist | August 13, 2014 at 4:15 pm

Crump, Sharpton, Jackson; the triumvirate of race-based greed incarnate.

As for the looters who take advantage of the chaos these three create, well, that’s what I would do if somebody got shot. It only logically follows that the best remedy for the cops shooting a thug is to go out robbing and razing for as long as you can. It makes perfect sense.

Yep. They’re just like us.

    As luck would have it, most new, large screen TV models come out in April each year – following introduction at the Consumer Electronics Show [CES] in January at Las Vegas.

    It would have been a pity for the riots to have started prior to April, as the looters would be stuck with the older 2013 models.

    White people only riot over sports matches 😉

      Milwaukee in reply to Amy in FL. | August 14, 2014 at 9:36 am

      Where is that quote from?

      Do White people in America riot after sports matches? I have heard of rioting after wins in World Series, Super Bowls and NBA Championships, but I never bothered to identify the race of the rioters. Could you document this?

What *conservative* racism?

    Paul in reply to Gus. | August 13, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    what *liberal* racism?

    what *black* racism?

    what *oriental* racism?

    what *latino* racism?

    Ragspierre in reply to Gus. | August 13, 2014 at 5:17 pm

    Hey, GuZ, help me out…

    I can never remember that racial epithet you use WRT Michelle Malkin.

    Mostly because it is so mean and hateful.

    What is it, again…???

Ferguson PD doesn’t utilize dashboard or body cameras. That mistake is going to cost them a lot. The local PD in my small town have both. It protects the public, it protects the officers and it’s cut way down on the number of actionable complaints filed against the department.

    Shane in reply to Sanddog. | August 13, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    Amen @Sanddog, the stupid PD’s keep thinking oohhhh noes we will be under attack if we do such a stupid thing.

    And then this and other events like it.

    A camera would have made the PD’s job so much easier. If the cop is a scumbag they can beat the union with the video and dump said cop like yesterday’s trash. If the cop was justified then release the video to the public and watch the cockroaches scurry for shelter.

    Cameras are a win-win. To bad the PD’s aren’t getting that.

    MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to Sanddog. | August 13, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    My understanding is that the PD is in the process of getting the cameras.

    Don’t know if I disbelieve them but it can be true. New technology takes to to spread, and it takes time for it to spread.

      MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to MouseTheLuckyDog. | August 13, 2014 at 7:10 pm

      Sorry got interrupted. Mean to say that new technology takes time to spread and there will be some late adopters. Shoot there were still some people using analog TV’s the final day of the switchover, and some people still only have landlines.

        For that matter, the FBI only just decided to start recording interviews, in interview rooms, real soon now. We’ll see how long it takes them to adopt that techology, which is now what? 60 years old?

    steveo1 in reply to Sanddog. | August 13, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    In 1981, Officer Daniel Faulkner was shot and killed on a Philadelphia street 6 feet in front of his squad car. Mumia Abu Jamal was put into custody there because his weapon was laying next to his hand and he had been shot by the leo.

    This case has cost the city and county of Philadelphia into the mega millions. If there had been a dash cam running in the car, you never would have heard of the name Mumia and he would already have been executed. But that was 1981, this is 2014 why aren’t all squad cars equipped?

      pst314 in reply to steveo1. | August 14, 2014 at 9:43 am

      If there were a dash cam video of Mumia murdering officer Faulkner, then Mumia would already be a tenured professor at a Harvard or Northwestern.

Personally, I would not be shocked if this kid DID get gunned down in cold blood by the cop.

Where I live we’ve had numerous cop killings in the past few years, and just recently a grand jury handed down a murder 2 indictment against a detective who chased a guy down who ran away from him during questioning and wound up shooting him in the back of the head, breaking a few ribs and rupturing his colon during the ‘attempted apprehension.’

Add to that the countless number of peaceful dogs shot on the owner’s property, tasings, beat-downs and finger-fucking of women on the side of the road in broad daylight and I’m convinced the cops are simply out of control. Natch the earlier discussion of asset forfeitures.

All that being said, I attribute all of this to the old adage of ‘absolute power corrupts, absolutely’ and not to… wait for it…. RAAAAACCCCIIIISSSSM like Short Bus Gus and the prog drone army are wont to do. As they always do, the progs project their innermost evil thoughts onto conservatives.

The Washington Post claims that the confrontations have been between local residents and the police. I wonder if there is a shred of truth to their several statements to that effect?

    Paul in reply to Valerie. | August 13, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    Revrund Al, the Black Panthers and all the other professional race-baiting agitators are on the scene to stir the pot.

    The black racists on the Twatterverse are encouraging them to invade the “white neighborhoods.” I would encourage them to think long and hard before the do so… there are some seriously well-armed farm-boy rednecks who know how to shoot and who won’t hesitate to protect their families and property not too far from where this is all happening.

      Miles in reply to Paul. | August 14, 2014 at 1:09 am

      I concur with that.
      Outside of the Saint Louis and Kansas City metro areas, riots would not be tolerated, and the perpetrators would probably be ventilated.

      Phillep Harding in reply to Paul. | August 14, 2014 at 3:00 pm

      Black hunters will tend to not tolerate riots in their neighborhoods either. No matter the color of the rioters.

      Who wants their own houses burned down?

Whenever I hear a story begin with, “We wuz just mindin’ our own bidness,” I know it’s a lie.

I don’t have a problem believing a cop misused deadly force. But I don’t believe he pulled over at the sight of two innocent pedestrians and shot one of them in cold blood for nothing at all.

They aren’t selling me that line even if they give away Girl Scout cookies with every swallow.

    steveo1 in reply to Estragon. | August 13, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    The PD should announce that their officer has agreed to take a polygraph given by the FBI to confirm his story and then ask Mr. Johnson to also come in for a polygraph, saying that they know that lie detector results aren’t admissible in court, but the results should give the public some solace into believing that the officer is telling the truth about the struggle for the gun.

    Trouble is that leo is never going to take a polygraph and he’s so lawyered up by now that nobody is going to find out from him what happened.

      Milhouse in reply to steveo1. | August 14, 2014 at 1:56 am

      Why on earth would the cop agree to a polygraph? Would you? I’d as soon agree to have my fate determined by a tea-leaf reading or by a phrenologist.

        I agree, Millhouse. Polygraphs are pretty much junk science. Neither the shooter nor the witness should be expected to take one. I do think it’s odd that they didn’t interview the witness sooner though. Ideally they would have gotten his fresh, un-coached statement on paper (and on video) in the first 24 hours.

          steveo1 in reply to Amy in FL. | August 14, 2014 at 8:59 am

          Actually, that first interview was on Aug 9th by Johnson in the aftermath of the shooting by the newsreporters on the scene. You can see the police tape in the background. So, the statement he made there, he didn’t have time to be coached and wasn’t represented by an attorney, it was a pretty spontaneous explanation. Pretty believable too. The clip didn’t make it into the MSM until a few days later.

          As for the polys, the State Attorneys and the detectives believe in them, that’s probably what counts, up front in an investigation when you have to determine who is telling the truth when you have two opposing sides of a story.

        steveo1 in reply to Milhouse. | August 14, 2014 at 9:04 am

        Yes, I would because once I did and after the exam where the examiner said I was truthful, I never heard about the case again.

        Just the fact that the poly is offered to the suspect and the reaction of the suspect is important because if they say sure ok, then there is more chance that the suspect is telling the truth, if he prevaricates around whether to do it or not and says I’ll have to talk to my lawyer about it, then you have to assume that you might be on the right track.

        Examiners will tell you that many suspects get hooked up to the machine and before the questioning even begins they confess. A lot of it is psychological and a big bluff, but it is a very effective investigational tool.

        Char Char Binks in reply to Milhouse. | August 14, 2014 at 9:56 am

        I don’t know how reliable a poly is, but I know that Zimmerman passed two of them, and we know what happened next. I would refuse.

    tom swift in reply to Estragon. | August 13, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    But I don’t believe he pulled over at the sight of two innocent pedestrians and shot one of them in cold blood for nothing at all.

    This particular LEO may have a prior history with one or both of these individuals. Depending on the details of that history, it might make otherwise unwise behavior more understandable.

    But if the LEO’s identity is secret, any prior history will be secret as well.

      MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to tom swift. | August 13, 2014 at 8:42 pm

      But, but, sweet gentle “Big Mike” does not have an “adult” arrest record. So why should the cop have any kind of history.

      Ragspierre in reply to tom swift. | August 13, 2014 at 9:06 pm

      “…any prior history will be secret as well.”

      “Secret” to whom? Just because you don’t know something on demand, it is not a “secret”. If there is a history between the parties, how will it become known? HINT: a careful, deliberate investigation.

      And for how long will it be a “secret”? There are two agencies investigating this.

        Secret to the people who have a right to know.

        Employment records of public employees are public records.

        People have a right to the records and not when the agency says they can get them.

        This is a rather small town with a rather small police force. If you can think of any reason why the release of these records should be delayed, let us know.

        Right now, there is no legal reason.

          Ragspierre in reply to gitarcarver. | August 14, 2014 at 3:07 pm

          You are simply talking out your ass.

          There are a LOT of strictures on divulging personal records of public employee.

          Look. It. Up.

          One of them would be when the person is the subject of an investigation.

    When I was checking up on this story yesterday, a CNN article quoting people on the scene of the shooting conveyed that these “pedestrians” were walking down the middle of the street. Not across, not on the side, but down the street via the middle, where cars not people are supposed to pass. It’s quite something how people will confirm the most amazing facts when they don’t think it’ll hurt their case (here being that the police officer was completely unjustified in even speaking ill to the young men).

      steveo1 in reply to JBourque. | August 14, 2014 at 9:14 am

      They probably weren’t walking in the middle of the street because of the angle of the police SUV. It looks as though the SUV either backed up or swung in front of the two walkers to block their path up the road.

      Police even did that to me once on a sidewalk (I was on the sidewalk), after I ignored the cop barking at me from the squad car, so don’t tell me it doesn’t happen. I’m white, so they didn’t shoot me. Even though the leo screamed at me, 2 inches from my face and tried to get me to fight with him, I just stood there like a monk at a contemplative monastery. The other leos showed up and searched the statute books on the back on the patrol car and couldn’t come up with anything to charge me with. I left. They didn’t stop me. I still wonder 40 years later, what that was all about?

        The source I read said middle of the street, but it’s very possible that wasn’t exactly accurate.

        What I really don’t understand is the story going around that the officer reached up and grabbed the throat of a 6’5″ (ish) 280-lb (ish) man and “tried to pull him into the vehicle” from a sitting position. Any police officer who violates his training and any notion of sense to that degree will lose his arm or his life very quickly. I am not putting anything past human stupidity without more facts.

          Char Char Binks in reply to JBourque. | August 14, 2014 at 4:39 pm

          I’m not going to hold Dorin Johnson to an exact literal meaning of “middle of the street”, anymore than I held Zimmerman responsible for counting the exact number of times he was struck by Trayvon. I assume they were jaywalking, possibly impeding traffic, and putting their and others’ safety in danger. But the idea that the cop tried to pull Big Mike into his car through the driver’s window is the reddest of flags so far. Is there a cop on Earth who would try to arrest someone that way? Can anyone in his right mind believe this complete and utter b.s.?

The crap is hip-deep on both sides of this messy incident. For starters, the police should have interviewed this kid on tape within hours of the event, before the lawyer got to him. He sounds coached, not using contractions and speaking in mixed active/passive voice, but that doesn’t mean he’s lying. Much of what he says rings true, but some sounds awfully weird. Like the officer grabbing his friend by the neck while still sitting in the car, and trying to drag him inside. (which should show on the autopsy, if it is ever released)
The final shooting kinda/sorta makes sense if you consider a struggle over the police officer’s weapon would make his adrenaline level spike, and people (including police officers) can do strange things under that influence.

The last thing in the world the police chief should do is to release the officer’s name. The mob is being whipped up into a frenzy over this, and if they release his name…

The sight of that burned out quick trip was pathetic.

These animals don’t give a shit, they’re just using it as an excuse for their wildings. Savages.

    MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to TB. | August 13, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    There are some reports that the guys had swiped a bunch of cigarillos from that QuickTime store before the incident happened and people were blaming that place.

    Kind of funny, I didn’t even know they still made cigarillo’s. Kind of a p***y thing to steal.

I got a chuckle over some some guy complaining that the police had no reason to withhold the officers name, because they couldn’t show that he had received any death threats.

Think that might be because they haven’t released his name???

DUH!!!

Has any of the looting involved Skittles or are we just sticking with the standard liquor and TV sets?

The usual race hustlers are out in front on this, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Even the version of events released by the police seems criminal to me.

“According to the still-unnamed officer, one of the two boys shoved him back into the vehicle and then wrestled for his sidearm, discharging one shot into the cabin. The two ran, and the police officer once again stepped from his vehicle and shot at the fleeing teenagers multiple times, killing Brown.” (here)

Just saw this in the Washington Post. According to the police, they have made numerous attempts to contact Johnson to no avail.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/13/frustration-mounts-in-ferguson-as-little-new-information-is-available/

Ferguson used to be a quiet middle class suburb of St. Louis, lined with older brick houses that had swept sidewalks. In the ’80’s Missouri started busing kids from crime ridden ghettos to the more affluent schools. This was the case in Ferguson.

As the blacks moved into Ferguson, and the crime rate increased, the white flight started (as it did in south St. Louis). Now Ferguson is 65% black and a literal trash can.

We do know this from the Ferguson PD; there was a shot fired inside the patrol car and the officer involved has sustained injuries to the face. The PD reports that his face is swollen. We also know that the PD has released a statement saying they have tried to talk to Dorin Johnson, and even contacted his attorney, but as of last night they had no response from either Johnson or his attorney.

The story of the officer reaching out and grabbing Brown by the throat strains credulity. Brown was 6’4-6’5″ and reportedly weighed 280 lbs. How do you grab someone by the throat from a sitting position when they are that tall?

I don’t know what happened. But I do know that St. Louis was once Chicago with the highest murder rate in the nation, and that was just a few years ago. That crime has bled over into neighboring towns and the county. Having friends that still live in south St. Louis, they are people who have all armed themselves as the crime becomes worse, not better.

I noticed that in the photo of Brown laying on the street, his pants were down around the bottom of his butt, gansta style. Did they fall when he was shot? My guess is that is how he wore them.

Remember, we were all told by the Crump Scheme Team that Trayvon Martin was just a good kid that wanted to be a pilot. Reality was that Martin was a gangbanger wannabe who liked Lean, a drug drink, and had been a problem for awhile. Now, we are going to hear the same thing from the same lawyer, Crump, about Brown. Crump’s looking for another paycheck.

“In general, law enforcement agencies are more than happy to name suspects, or mere persons of interest, and let the people and their associates take their chances. They leave the named, like falsely accused Olympic bombing suspect Richard Jewell, to pick up whatever pieces they can after the fact if it turns out that their hands are clean of the crime to which they’ve been linked.”

People aren’t liking the hypocrisy and double standards here. Of COURSE it doesn’t excuse looting and rioting, but the longer the police insist on granting one of their own the “courtesies” that they would deny any of us commoners, the worse it’s going to get. Nothing good grows in the dark.

George Zimmerman somehow dealt with the overt death threats and bounty placed on his head; surely the shooter of this kid can manage too?

http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/13/officer-who-shot-mike-brown-might-face-t

    Ragspierre in reply to Amy in FL. | August 13, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    “Nothing good grows in the dark.”

    You and I and everyone else did.

    Why don’t you curb your drive to see this cop or his family under threat, just long enough for the processessssssssss to be carried through.

    Because due process DOES take time. Even if it frustrates your downright weird drive for instant gratification.

      gregjgrose in reply to Ragspierre. | August 13, 2014 at 8:31 pm

      Rags, I do see the down-side of releasing his name: his and his family’s reputation and safety, investigation muddied, etc.–but how long before other interests begin to (out)weigh in the balance?

      I don’t know **ap for **it, but A in a small/medium sized town, people have GOT to already know his name, B just how long can it take to move his family to a safe place, and C the name has gotta come out sometime, why not sooner rather than later, “comes with the territory” when you pin on the badge, avoid some poo-flinging, calm the street, yadda-ya?

        Ragspierre in reply to gregjgrose. | August 13, 2014 at 8:53 pm

        Well, let’s start with this: you are the cop. How long is good enough for you?

        Your points are not invalid, but they are also based on your assumptions. What if you are just wrong?

        Curiously, Amy is howling for the Richard Jewell/George Zimmerman treatment. This is particularly strange because Jewell was a LEO. He was “outed” by the Janet Reno FBI, and subsequently raped by the press.

        I would have thought we would want people to be MORE careful with information at very delicate times, rather than demanding the authorities spill their guts on demand.

        Another thing about the piece Amy linked, but was not very candid about…it mostly deals with police naming suspects in police shootings. Now, read the piece, and what I think you’ll generally find is that those suspects were CHARGED and tried. I didn’t see a one where a LEO hit squad killed one, or a white supremacist group took one out. Why? Because most of us trust the police to act according to the law. And…funny thing…they TEND to do just that.

        As with the Richard Jewell case, I think being careful with information in these circumstances is totally warranted, and TEMPORARY. IF this LEO killed this kid outside the law, I hope and expect he will be roasted for it.

        Are cops different than the rest of us? Of course they are. Ask any of them who have been sent to prison.

        Are they above the law? Some have been. There is no evidence of that here.

    pst314 in reply to Amy in FL. | August 13, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    “George Zimmerman somehow dealt with the overt death threats and bounty placed on his head; surely the shooter of this kid can manage too?”

    Such a charming lack of concern about deadly threats.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Amy in FL. | August 14, 2014 at 1:15 am

    Until the investigation is complete, the LEA is the face of the shooter. The LEA has no obligation to ever release his name unless he’s charged or ordered by a court to do so or it’s released under a FOIA.

    Crump, Sharpton and Jackson will do him plenty of damage without his name being released.

    Given the presence of the three race whores and the blatant, noxious racial tone they’ve brought to town, there is no up side to releasing the officer’s name at this time.

    You see, when something happens that blacks, who kill one another at an alarming rate, can blame on whitey, and they see an opportunity for all manner of violent crime and an excuse to loot and victimize whites, they’re going to go for it with great zeal. They love to get whitey on the run.

    In addition, this is also now another obamullah-stoked fire. He commented sympathetically about Michael Brown the other day. He’s put his stamp of approval on the behavior once again. In light of all this, do you REALLY think the name should be released? Really? I’m surprised at you.

    Milhouse in reply to Amy in FL. | August 14, 2014 at 2:13 am

    Tuccille is a prick, and that piece is asinine.

    But when St. Louis Police Department Officer Daryl Hall was killed in a gun battle in 2011, officials were quick to name Asif Blake as the suspect. True, Blake was also killed in the incident, but he certainly had family who might have been subject to “threats.”

    Why would they be subject to threats? Who would threaten them? Cops? What basis do you have for suspecting them of such behaviour? But you and Tuccille and everyone else knows damn well what will happen to this cop as soon as his name is known. The only reason you want it released is blood lust. You want him to be hurt.

    And no, Zimmerman didn’t “somehow deal” with the threats and the bounty. He went into hiding, became unemployable, his health suffered, his marriage broke up (though in the long run that may be a good thing, he’s better off without that crazy woman), and he’s going to spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder. Is that what you wish on this cop, without any reason to believe he did anything wrong?

      No, I just want cops to be subject to the same standards as the people they serve. Actually I’d prefer that they be held to /higher/ standards, given that we invest them with the power of life and death over us, but at the minimum, I’d accept the former.

        Ragspierre in reply to Amy in FL. | August 14, 2014 at 7:48 am

        You mean like the people in the military?

        Oh, no. That doesn’t work.

        See, again for the reality challenged, LEOs are NOT just like the rest of us.

        THINK about it. Roll it around in your head.

        Are the laws suspended if you are a cop?

        What is your fear here, Amy? The LEO is going to walk after he (let’s say) just gunned the kid down?

        Char Char Binks in reply to Amy in FL. | August 14, 2014 at 10:12 am

        The only purpose of releasing the cop’s name would be to throw him to the wolf pack. That’s what the wolf pack wants. The matter is being investigating, internally and externally. There’s no way they can cover up his name from investigators, there’s no way he won’t be scrutinized completely. If it comes to trial, he will be investigated by the media, and his life will probably be hell, either a hell of his own making (if he’s guilty) or a hell made by Brown, Johnson, Crump, Rev. Charlatan, and the wolf pack.

          The reason would be to show the openness and transparency of the investigation.

          Despite the assertions of some people here, officers should not be treated differently when they are the subject of a criminal investigation.

          Either the names of the suspects are released all the time, or they are not released until charges are filed. Either way is fine with me.

          The lack of consistency and transparency only adds to the angst in situations like this.

          Ragspierre in reply to Char Char Binks. | August 14, 2014 at 1:55 pm

          “Despite the assertions of some people here, officers should not be treated differently when they are the subject of a criminal investigation.”

          When did that happen? When did the officer involved here become the target of a CRIMINAL investigation.

          See? You let your bloodlust get ahead of you. Dinya?

          JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Char Char Binks. | August 14, 2014 at 2:34 pm

          So, gitar, suppose for a moment your oldest son is white and he shot a black kid in an area that is 65% black, and not middle-class, educated blacks – inner-city transplants that drove 60% of the white people out. Arriving on the first plane in are Al Sharpton, Ben Crump and Jesse Jackson. They’re there to gin up racial strife and stoke some good old-fashioned rioting. There’s a rumor the Black Panthers aren’t far behind. Already the black populace gathers, and demands that the shooter be identified becomes the centerpiece of their supposed rage.

          Memories of George Zimmerman and the Duke lacrosse boys come quickly to mind. So far, the media doesn’t know or at least hasn’t announced your son’s name because the police won’t release it for your son’s and your family’s protection.

          But, in adherence to your apparent sense of equality, balance and fair play, you call the media and trot your son out for a photo op.

          Right. Sure. You’re happy. You and your family are all packed and ready to go into hiding. You’ve got your checkbook at the ready for the thousands you will be paying for private security and body guards.

          While you’re driving to the rat hole you’ll be hiding in, as an aside, ponder whether any of this would be necessary if the races were reversed.

      tom swift in reply to Milhouse. | August 14, 2014 at 9:59 am

      what will happen to this cop as soon as his name is known.

      What will happen?

      Death threats never killed anybody. They’re mere noise. Feeble people who fantasize that they’re not as inconsequential as they really are may be fond of death threats, but there’s virtually zero chance that any of them will even try to deliver, ever.

      The LEO would be in no danger. Not from mere barking dogs, at least. The ones which don’t bark are what he might have to worry about.

        Char Char Binks in reply to tom swift. | August 14, 2014 at 11:47 am

        I’d like to see you test your confidence in that with millions of people calling for your blood.

        pst314 in reply to tom swift. | August 14, 2014 at 11:55 am

        what will happen to this cop as soon as his name is known. “What will happen? Death threats never killed anybody. Death threats never killed anybody.”

        Are you crazy, stupid, or just need to have some coffee to wake your brain up?
        Consider the many murders and attempted murders–not to mention mob violence and random street violence–after the publication of the Satanic Verses.
        Consider KKK death threats against blacks and civil rights workers.

Yes indeed, very different accounts are starting to emerge.

The original black victim story, that this cop just basically did a murder in broad daylight in the middle of the street, is meant for the ignoramus mope audience and should be ignored by sensible people.

The likelihood that this fat, greasy punk went for the cop’s gun and died for it is far, far more likely. Word today is the cop sustained some facial injuries.

I suspect that the facts will reveal that this mope is just as complicit in his own death as Martin, Jordan Davis and Joseph Harvey–and Renisha McBride for that matter too.

Real men die with their boots on–Brown died with his pants down.

Buh bye.

    tom swift in reply to bildung. | August 13, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    and should be ignored by sensible people.

    Sensible people don’t ignore Lord Acton’s dictum.

    Char Char Binks in reply to bildung. | August 14, 2014 at 10:18 am

    I don’t see how Davis was complicit in his own death. Maybe he was rude or confrontational with Dunn, but there was no justifying that shooting.

      No but see, he might not have always been a model citizen in every aspect of his life; and there might be some pictures of him on Facebook that cast him in a less than flattering light. Therefore, his character is immediately suspect and sufficient doubt as to the LACK of justification for the shooting can be created in the minds of people who insist that race isn’t an issue when the police shoot and kill black people.

      Also, his friend has tattoos and there’s a picture of him with a joint somewhere.

      So …, you know.

        JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Gus. | August 14, 2014 at 2:50 pm

        Race will always be an issue when blacks are shot and killed by any race other than black as long as they continue their destructive culture and continue to fulfill the stereotype.

        Should they decide to change their culture and begin to behave and perform like other races do as a group, it’s highly unlikely they will be shot any more frequently than members of other races are. Even the shootings among themselves, which is a far larger number than white-on-black shootings, would plummet.

        Blacks have to make the shootings of blacks by any other race only about race because it is the means by which they avoid looking at and changing their own behaviors/culture. It’s really no different than the practicing drunk or druggie who blames everybody but himself for his behaviors and troubles. It’s never their conduct and decisions that lead to their death or troubles. No. It’s always caused by evil, privileged whitey responding to their skin color.

        Observer in reply to Gus. | August 14, 2014 at 5:08 pm

        Wow, that’s a whole lot of ignorance on display in one comment.

        George Zimmerman was not acquitted because the jury thought Travyon Martin had a bad character; Zimmerman was acquitted because the jurors concluded that Zimmerman had shot Martin in a reasonable exercise of self defense.

        The jurors gave interviews after the trial in which they explained that they based their verdict on the evidence that showed that Trayvon Martin punched Zimmerman in the face, knocked him down, straddled him on the ground, and continued to rain blows down upon him, “MMA style” (as one witness described it) while Zimmerman screamed for help and struggled, futilely, to get away.

        Anyone who watched the trial, or made even a minimal effort to acquaint themselves with the evidence, would know that it was not Martin’s thuggish FB posts or his criminal history or his race that caused Zimmerman to shoot him (or that caused the Zimmerman jury to acquit Zimmerman for shooting Martin). Instead, what caused Martin’s death (and Zimmerman’s acquittal) was the fact that Martin chose to assault and beat on a victim who, unbeknownst to Martin, happened to be armed with a loaded gun, and chose to exercise his right to use it to defend himself.

    Spiny Norman in reply to MouseTheLuckyDog. | August 13, 2014 at 11:17 pm

    Of course, the Anonymous Twitter idiot is denying it’s the wrong house in the wrong town.

    Of course, we have it from our supremely wise commenter tom swift that the innocent person that was wrongly identified as officer has nothing to worry about. Nothing at all.
    An evil but funny suggestion for a social experiment: Leak tom swift’s name & address as the true identify of the shooter. See how he reacts.

MouseTheLuckyDog | August 13, 2014 at 8:56 pm

13 minutes ago

Breaking rumor…
Tip: (Completely uncorroborated, so take at your own discretion!)

Source is a dispatcher…said that the cop who shot Mike Brown Jr was admitted to the ER and supposedly broke his jaw. One of his eyes also is supposedly nearly swollen shut. She also said that there were casings from a second gun found on the scene, which is why you are hearing ranges of how many shot the cop fired.

Again, uncorroborated, so could only be rumor!
/u/jandrewweb

We don’t have enough facts yet to draw any conclusions about whether or not the cop was justified in shooting Michael Brown.

And “community outrage” is not necessarily any legitimate clue to the purported innocence of Brown: Note, for instance, the many instances in which a violent thug is deservedly shot and killed by the police, whereupon numerous friends and neighbors loudly proclaim that he was “a good kid” and “peaceful” and a victim of “racist police”. In one recent case in New Jersey, a black thug was *very* deservedly shot and killed after he ambushed a police officer. The sidewalk memorial to the slain savage included such wishes as “thug in peace”.

    Anchovy in reply to pst314. | August 13, 2014 at 10:24 pm

    The main problem with waiting for the facts before drawing a conclusion is that maybe the facts will not support your conclusion. No, it is much easier to start with a conclusion and then only see the facts that support that conclusion.

    This fundamental rule applies equally well to global warming as it does to Michael Brown, who is no longer warming anything.

      Ragspierre in reply to Anchovy. | August 13, 2014 at 10:27 pm

      A-main, A-main… Tell my fishy brotha…

      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Anchovy. | August 14, 2014 at 1:22 am

      I heard a rumor that Michael and Trayvon were keeping each other warm in an even warmer place.

      tom swift in reply to Anchovy. | August 14, 2014 at 10:11 am

      The main problem with waiting for the facts before drawing a conclusion is that maybe the facts will not support your conclusion.

      Sometimes people just want answers, even when they haven’t already decided what they want the answers to be.

      pst314 in reply to Anchovy. | August 14, 2014 at 11:30 am

      We’ve got to be patient and not jump to conclusions. The bits and pieces we’ve seen so far are fragmentary and contradictory.

      For instance, here is one that could support the claim that the Ferguson police are violent and out-of-control: There are now multiple reports of news crews being assaulted by the police. One took place in a McDonald’s restaurant. Drudge links another, a video, in which police tear-gas a TV news crew and then dismantle their equipment, laying the lights down on the ground and tilting the camera so that it points at the ground.

    Uncle Samuel in reply to pst314. | August 14, 2014 at 5:35 am

    Both Trayvon Martin and the young black teen in New Orleans (who was shot in the head and still returned to breaking/entering career) were both called good kids by their families and friends despite much evidence to the contrary.

The mix of blacks, politicians and police can make for a gross miscarriage of justice.

There is still a very large commemorative police event every year on the anniversary of Officer Cardillo’s death.

There is also large gang presence in the St. Louis neck of the woods. Trayvon Martin’s alleged biological father lived there and was allegedly a member of a group that was a blend of the Masons and the Bloods type gang.

    “…a member of a group that was a blend of the Masons and the Bloods type gang.”

    Freemasons and Bloods??? Please give more details.

      aerily in reply to pst314. | August 14, 2014 at 10:38 am

      /snark/ I knew the Shriners were behind this. Those little cars, clowns and arabic inspired names are a dead giveaway. /snark/

“[T]he town of Ferguson, Mo. outside St. Louis, numbering around 21,000 residents, is the scene of an unfolding drama that will be cited for years to come as a what-not-to-do manual for police forces. After police shot and killed an unarmed black teenager on the street, then left his body on the pavement for four hours, rioters destroyed many local stores. Since then, police have refused to disclose either the name of the cop involved or the autopsy results on young Michael Brown; have not managed to interview a key eyewitness even as he has told his story repeatedly on camera to the national press; have revealed that dashcams for police cars were in the city’s possession but never installed; have obtained restrictions on journalists, including on news-gathering overflights of the area; and more..”
http://www.cato.org/blog/police-militarization-ferguson-nationwide

Is this really how so many of y’all want America to be?

    Ragspierre in reply to Amy in FL. | August 14, 2014 at 7:32 am

    No, Amy. It’s even how I want the Cato Institute to be.

    “…have not managed to interview a key eyewitness even as he has told his story repeatedly on camera to the national press…”

    Linking to the moonbat Riverfront Times, and sorta, kinda implying the cops aren’t doing their jobs, even though the writeup says they are. The FBI is not mentioned. Hmmm…

    “…have obtained restrictions on journalists, including on news-gathering overflights of the area; and more.”

    ZOMG…!!! “And MORE…!!! Hide the children and sensitive dogs…!!!”

    But find a map of the area, and you will appreciate that having a bunch of news ‘copters flitting about might not be good for, oh, airliners and such.

    Why does it matter that Mr. Brown’s autopsy is not sitting in your lap YET…??? WTF? Do you doubt that we will have it? Are you entitled to have it? At a certain time? Does it forebode ill if you don’t?

    Now, the militarization of police forces is something we SHOULD be concerned about. OTOH, I want my police force a LOT more forceful than several were in the face of Occupy, such as in Oakland, where they mostly watched as crazies took over the streets.

    There has always…from the days of the Founders…been a tension between security and freedom, and lots of good people work to find the right spot on the continuum.

      Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | August 14, 2014 at 7:49 am

      It’s NOT even how I want the Cato Institute to be.

      Must. Have. Caffine…

      MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to Ragspierre. | August 14, 2014 at 10:46 am

      The police have said that they will not release the autopsy until after they interview all the witnesses. Good practice. I wonder how many of them will say he was shot in the back and then the autopsy shows no entrance wound on the back. Or say that he was shot five times when there are only two entrance wounds. It’s one way of separating reliable from unreliable witnesses.

      Of course if you do not care about the truth but just want witnesses to come forward and make up what they want. You really do want the autopsy report released to the public, so that witnesses can tailor their story to it.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Amy in FL. | August 15, 2014 at 12:48 am

    Key witness? Dorin’s attorney, BEN CRUMP, will not allow Dorin to give a statement. Sound familiar? So the condemnation of the cops for not interviewing this “key witness” is not an accurate presentation.

    And then there’s this: “…. After police shot and killed an unarmed black teenager on the street, then left his body on the pavement for four hours, rioters destroyed many local stores.”

    “After police shot” implies more than one cop involved. Wrong. A fairer presentation would be “….After a police officer shot…..” “Unarmed” would not be technically accurate if Brown was trying to get the cop’s gun. “….on the street” is also not a demonstrated fact except in the very broadest meaning, as far as we know now. One report said that Brown was partially in the cop’s car when the first shot was fired. “….then left his body on the pavement for four hours.” Crime scene investigators should take as long as they need to get it right. They only have one chance. A public roadway is not a sealable crime scene and once it’s contaminated, you’re done. One bite at the apple takes time. Four hours is not all that long when the event took place in an open area as opposed to a closed area, such as a room. “….rioters destroyed many local stores.” Uh-huh. A 53-man force in a town of 21,000 people is supposed to be johnny up-and-ready on a dime for such an event? It’s supposed to stop what New Orleans PD couldn’t stop? Cincinnati PD? Detroit PD? LAPD? Atlanta PD? No city and certainly not a little town can financially afford 24-hour riot readiness.

It’s just priceless to witness “small government” *conservatives* whine about government overreach and the militarization of the police, EXCEPT when the police shoot unarmed black men. In which case, OMGZ we have to give deference to teh polizzee!!!!!

Black people resisting a militarized police state is “looting” and “rioting”, and the fellow who was shot is automatically a “thug”. Also, the kid who is speaking up for his dead friend is suspect because he has tattoos.

White people taking up arms to protect a deadbeet from paying grazing fees, and threatening “civil war” every 15 minutes when the president does something that hurts their fee fees – are “patriotism”.

    Ragspierre in reply to Gus. | August 14, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2613641/Cliven-Bundys-black-bodyguard-claims-rancher-not-racist-happily-bullet-him.html

    Government currently is KNOWN for its overreach. Which is why YOUR COLLECTIVE polls so very, very badly.

    But YOU LOVES you some BIG GOVERNMENT, and individual people be damned.

    Nobody here is saying anything other than that people need to cool their pitchforks and let due process run its course.

    Or are you howling for the blood of the policeman, too? How about his kids?

    Looting and rioting are looting and rioting. Aren’t they? Or is that “social unrest”?

    You lying little SOS.

    And what would we call white people behaving in the same manner? An insurrection? Civil war? They wouldn’t be bringing out the police with extra toys. They’d be bringing in the National Guard with real tanks.

    It’s definitely not all race.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Gus. | August 15, 2014 at 1:05 am

    Gus bin Lootin’?

    Conservatives believe in the rule of law, period. You libtards believe in the rule of tyranny, period.

    Blacks must look at their own culture for the reasons why they’re viewed as untrustworthy…..by cops or by the little old BLACK lady desperately clutching her purse to her body at the ghetto bus stop.

    Until they change themselves, their values, their ethics, and their behaviors, they will never experience the general respect and tolerance that all other races have for each other.

Henry Hawkins | August 14, 2014 at 12:45 pm

320,000,000 million people in the US.

Dozens upon dozens of cities whose downtowns are violent drug-ridden shitholes.

800,000 full and part time police officers, armed and with arrest powers, in the US.

Millions of interactions between police and citizens in these dangerous areas every week.

Those 800,000 LEOs shoot and kill about 20-25 citizens per month and 99% of these are adjudicated justifiable.

About 8-10 LEOs are killed in the line of duty per year in the US.

—————–

Of course LEOs make bad shootings once in a while. Human nature and large numbers demand it as a statistical reality. We have a heavily publicized shooting in Ferguson in the news right now. Stats overwhelmingly say any LEO shooting of a citizen is likely justified, that this is the direction to which any benefit of the doubt ought to go. The facts are not in, in fact, the facts are a jumbled mess of contradictions, typical when emotional witnesses and the MSM converge, indicating it isn’t known which ‘facts’ are true or false.

Why would anyone be getting angry at police this early in the story? Because there might have been police malfeasance? Do you require the facts to establish this? Don’t you then have to wait till the facts are in, supported by all the traditional corroborations? Is it possible that the instantly angry carry prejudices regarding police specifically or authority in general, a factor that is irrelevant to the event and corrosive to any objective analysis? Anger causes adrenaline and dopamine dumps. It can feel good, angry words to the contrary.

Two possibilities here:

1. Bad shoot, cop indicted, and we hope they hammer him. Justice.

2. Good shoot, cop vindicated, and we’re glad for our judicial system. Justice.

“But Henry! This, that, and the other might be happening! It might be the Cops Racist Just Like We Always Knew story of the year! Just before midterms!”

Yeah, this, that, and the other might well be revealed within this story, but I think I’ll wait for evidence of it.

    Hi, Henry. There actually really aren’t any good national statistics on how many homicides are committed by police in the USA. Radley Balko ran into that problem while trying to research his recent book. He explains here:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/radley-balko/why-is-there-no-good-data_b_2278013.html

      Henry Hawkins in reply to Amy in FL. | August 14, 2014 at 6:54 pm

      I found the statistics, year by year, state by state, in about 10 seconds on the internet.

      Doesn’t matter. Whatever the number, it is infinitesimal compared to the vast number of contacts between LE and street criminals.

      The only thing that shocks me is that there aren’t far more killings of citizens by cops.

    See also here:

    “[N]either Huston nor Haberfeld cite any national statistics or study to back up the claim that the use of deadly force is not on the rise, because they can’t. There is no national database, nor anything close to resembling one, which details the use of deadly force by police.”

    http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/14/breitbartcom-claims-no-rise-in-use-of-de

      Henry Hawkins in reply to Amy in FL. | August 14, 2014 at 6:58 pm

      *Sigh*

      Yes, impressive link, to very impressive researchers who looked for a nat’l database to hand them the numbers without effort on their part, found no such database, and gave up declaring the stats don’t exist.

      The nation is made up of fifty states. A database of plice killings exists for each. I scanned them all. This morning.

      And no, I won’t post the link. You, Huston, and Haberfeld can find it yourselves.

        Ragspierre in reply to Henry Hawkins. | August 14, 2014 at 7:16 pm

        There are some radical libertarians at woik here.

        They have a BIG victim complex for some reason(s).

        This is why extreme libertarians can’t have nice things…

        like elective office.

          I’m not a big government Statist, I’m genuinely put off by overt displays of authoritarianism or admiration of same, and I think my baby boomer parents’ “Question Authority” signs are still out in the garage somewhere. If that makes me a radical extremist on this blog, so be it.

          …also, the down-vote on your comment was my misplaced swipe at the “reply” button. Sorry!

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | August 14, 2014 at 8:10 pm

          Nope. What is makes you is a smug, judgmental, rigid, self-righteous, rather crazy and irrational member of a fringe.

          I’m sure the internal fires of whatever victim complex burns inside you are enough to provide you with enough of a glow to substitute for any lack of human warmth in your life.

          Henry Hawkins in reply to Ragspierre. | August 14, 2014 at 8:41 pm

          It’s easy to hate ‘displays of authority’ at a distance, through the monitor or TV glass. Attitudes towards authority tends to, ahem, evolve once the riot is in your own neighborhood and the lives and property at risk are your own.

          But, nothing feels better than some righteous indignation though without a dog in the fight, nor a penny in the pot.

          JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Ragspierre. | August 15, 2014 at 1:11 am

          LOL! 🙂

          They also have BIG imaginations.

          JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Ragspierre. | August 15, 2014 at 1:20 am

          Amy, your rhoided up fear of any authority is better off “reserved for federal use.” Really, this little town, Ferguson, doesn’t have a bunch of serious conspiracies to deprive people of their rights and privacy, due process, freedom, etc.. It’s Podunk, MO, for pete’s sake. No people, no matter their skin color, are being rounded up and shot by the cops, etc., and there’s no reason to think this case is being swept under the carpet. IT HASN’T EVEN BEEN A WEEK SINCE THE SHOOTING, AMY.

          Chill, girl.

That Newsweek photo gallery is “incredible” ??!?

Have I been transported to bizzaro world where words have new meanings ?

The photo gallery has like 8 photos, maybe 3 of which are even “interesting”. It is decidedly NOT “incredible”.

I did some quick research and found that the crime rate for Ferguson city, such a small population, is way higher than the national average. The news media lied and said it was extremely low. I grew up in Springfield Illinois and can testify that the crime rate for a certain ethnicity is off the chart. About 30 of these little thugs won’t mention color, would run into Eisner’s store all at once, steall whatever their little hands could carry and run out all at once until they put the stores out of business. These kids were about 11 years old–they were taught to steal by their parents. Their folks had food stamps, but that wasn’t good enough. It wasn’t fun if you didn’t steal it! They would knock over little old ladies if they got in their way irregardless of color. They scream they are being picked on, but rest assured a small majority are thugs. They would steal anything that was not tied down. I have to bear the truth and the truth hurts.

Let’s look at the situation on the ground in Ferguson right now. You have a bunch of little angels running around stealing and destroying at will. The news media is picking on this certain ethnicity because all of the looters are of the same ethnicity—you catching the theme?? Truth hurts sometimes. This same group looted in New Orleans when things were not perfect.

Let’s look at other disasters around this nation. When chaos hits other ethnicities they seem to pull together and help each other. This group wants to stir up trouble and scream they are being picked on because of their color. Why is it that we have every color you can imagine on earth and these lone poor souls have single handedly been picked out as targets. I don’t hear American Indians screaming about injustices?? Every race has been discriminated against but I don’t see them running in the streets and tearing up their own infrastructure–what is with that???

L.A. riots–tore their own infrastructure apart and then wanted these businesses to reopen so they could use their food stamps?? I am sick and tired of victims. I am an American Indian and I have always worked for a living. I don’t have time to take off from work and march in the streets for days. Are all of the rioters on vacation from work or are they all on welfare and have nothing but time to stir up trouble?

If this cop is a bad guy, which I highly doubt, he will be brought to justice. His own convictions will destroy him if he is dirty. The truth always comes out.

I suggest the media and the sanctioned thug stirrers sit down and ask the Good Lord what he would do. Would Jesus be running the streets and stirring up insurrection? I know he would promote peace. Nothing will bring this young man back. He is standing before the good Lord giving an account of what he has done on earth. I pray his sins have been washed by the Blood of Jesus.

You don’t think an African American police officer has killed an Indian, Caucasion, Latin American, Asian, etc. Sorry if I left anyone out!!! I don’t hear of them going to the street and starting riots–they are all at work trying to provide for their children.

I have several African American friends, and most of them feel like they are victims??? Why is that?? All I can figure out is they have been taught in their homes and in their churches that they are victims.

I guess they feel like God is not enough. Teach you kids to Love God and that God Loves them. They are not victims they are Children of the King!

I ask everyone look at a video presented by a real man that has the answer for his own race! Take responsibility. My hat goes off to this Mighty Man!!! A Man of True Valor!!! Jonathan Gentry youtube video–https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTUqOBJsRdg

Mr. Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, NAACP need to step down and let this Man take the platform for his race. African Americans if you love your children then please go and listen to this Man! He will save your children from more heartache in the future! Don’t let your children continue to be sacrificed because you want to promote hate.

Palestinians are being killed right now because they are teaching their children to hate. I just want to cry when the parents are holding their little dead kids and are saying they support Hamas. Hamas sacrifices the Palestinian children because they are mad at the world. If they would have promoted peace then I am sure the Israeli’s would have welcomed them with open arms. The Arabs have an ax to grind and want Israel annihilated. They keep stirring the pot. What if the Arabs would recognize Israel as a sovereign nation and promote peace. They can’t because they want to hate.

QUIT HATING, OBEY THE LAW OF THE LAND, TEACH YOUR CHILDREN TO RESPECT AND LOVE THE POLICE–I BELIEVE THIS YOUNG MAN WOULD STILL BE ALIVE TODAY IF HE HADN’T BEEN TAUGHT TO HATE!!!

WHEN A POLICE OFFICER ASK’S YOU TO DO SOMETHING, SAY YES SIR AND DO IT. YOU DON’T HAVE TO RESPECT THE POLICE OFFICER, BUT YOU SHOULD RESPECT THE BADGE. IF A 65 POUND 90 YEAR OLD WOMAN IS WEARING A BADGE AND ASK YOU TO DO SOMETHING, PLEASE OBEY!! IT IS NOT THE WOMAN, IT IS THE BADGE THAT SHE REPRESENTS. FERGUSON POLICE ARE SANCTIONED BY THE CITY OF FERGUSON AND REPRESENT THE CITY OF FERGUSON. YOU DON’T HAVE TO RESPECT THE PERSON WEARING THE BADGE, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO RESPECT THE BADGE!

THESE POLICE OFFICERS HAVE WIVES AND CHILDREN JUST LIKE YOU DO! GIVE THEM A BREAK!! I THANK GOD FOR THE OFFICERS IN UNIFORM THAT PROTECT AND SERVE. WE DO HAVE A FEW BAD APPLES, BUT DON’T LOB THEM ALL AS EVIL BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT!!!!

Go home, pray for this man’s family, teach your children to love everyone, if they are done wrong then know the God of All Creation will avenge them. We were bought with a price, by the precious Blood of Jesus! He owns us, all of us, let’s get out of the way and let him love through usl He is watching over this city right now!!! Be still and know he is God!!!

News media ain’t going like me spreading love and talking about Jesus. They want to keep stirring it up, getting more African Americans killed, African Americans killing others, and police killing others so we can keep the news rolling. Media loves trouble and stir it up!!!!

Go home and hug your kids. Send the media home! Quit stirring up riots in other cities. You will give an account for what you do–you too will be facing God very shortly. You are killing innocent people and are getting other innocent people killed in other cities! Quit spewing your hatred and start loving your fellow man!!!

Love you and hope you can receive these words in love!! Don’t worry about my color–it doesn’t matter. I love African Americans because they are God’s Children!!!!!

Johnson has refused to talk to the police and lawyered up because he is guitly of a strong arm robbery of a store with Brown.

It is ridiculous that an attorney would be so incredulous. A felon has a reason to lie to the public about the shooting since he and Brown were involved in a serious felony just before being stopped by the police to be interviewed about the crime.

This gives credibility not to the co-conspirators, but to the police officer’s account, where Brown immediately attacked the officer because Brown was a violent felon.

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