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Health plan cancellations were a known known

Health plan cancellations were a known known

To the Obama administration.

Donald Rumsfeld, February 12, 2002:

There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.
There are known unknowns; that is to say, there are things that we now know we don’t know.
But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don’t know

That many millions of people would not be able to keep their insurance plans even if they liked them was a known known throughout the time period Obama was saying otherwise.  Not only did Eric Cantor and the CBO warn about it, so too did state regulators and industry officials.

NBC reports, Insurers, state officials say cancellation of health care policies just as they predicted:

Several insurance industry officials and state insurance commissioners expressed frustration Friday, saying they were “baffled” by President Barack Obama’s assertion that the cancellation of millions of insurance policies occurred because a key provision of the Affordable Care Act didn’t work as expected. The administration was warned three years ago that regulations would have exactly that effect, they said.

They said the widespread cancellations in the individual health insurance market — roughly 5 million and counting — are in line with what was projected under regulations drawn up by the administration in 2010, requirements that both insurers and businesses objected to at the time….

In comments filed in August and December 2010, America’s Health Insurance Plans — a trade group representing 1,300 insurance plans — urged the administration to “reconsider” grandfathering rules because they were too stringent to allow many to keep their policies.


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Hence the need to “vote for it” first, and “find out what is in it” later. They knew exactly what was coming. They knew it was not OK with the American people.

I have been trying very hard to think of something more unamerican than what these bozos have done. Honestly, I can’t.

They all belong in prison.

It seems that they expected to be working and to have enough people signed up to be able to dismiss and deflect the criticism. Oops.

It wasn’t just one lie Obama told the American public to sell this horrible law, it was many. Here are the six major lies about Obamacare:

(1) “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period.”

(2) “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”

(3) “Obamacare will bend the cost curve down. The average American family’s health care premiums will go down by $2,500 a year.”

(4) “Obamacare won’t add one thin dime to the deficit.”

(5) “Obamacare won’t lead to health care rationing.”

(6) “Obamacare won’t affect Medicare benefits.”

    Radegunda in reply to Observer. | November 16, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Re: Mecicare benefits — Imagine the reaction if Republicans had stripped $716 billion out of Medicare and claimed it was all merely “waste” they were trimming. Meanwhile, Pelosi says it’s “very important” that we understand that the federal budget doesn’t have any other wasted spending that could possibly be cut.

    Bruno Lesky in reply to Observer. | November 16, 2013 at 12:17 pm

    Good list! Add:
    (7) ” [Navigators] are just committed folks who are helping people sign up {for Obamacare].”

    labrat in reply to Observer. | November 16, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    You forgot
    7. More people will be insured.

      Observer in reply to labrat. | November 17, 2013 at 6:42 am

      You’re right. After I wrote the comment I realized I forgot to include the biggest lie of all:

      “Obamacare will solve the problem of the uninsured.”

      In fact, according to the government’s own projections, even if Obamacare were to be fully implemented, there would still be more than 30 million uninsured.

I can’t help but wonder what Obama promised the Insurance CEOs yesterday, or should I say what Obama put the American taxpayer, not all of us, just we taxpayers on the hook for.

I wish they would tell, I wish they would understand that they are just pawns in a step by step process to strip away all our freedoms – even theirs.

The liberal pundits (paid by Soros) want us to believe the ends justify the means. So for now the known knowns are just a glitch in the utopian sotware

MaggotAtBroadAndWall | November 16, 2013 at 9:48 am

‘Senate Democrats supported rule that led to insurance cancellations’

“The District of Columbia is an island surrounded by reality. Only in the District of Columbia could you get away with telling the people if you like what you have you can keep it, and then pass regulations six months later that do just the opposite and figure that people are going to ignore it. But common sense is eventually going to prevail in this town and common sense is going to have to prevail on this piece of legislation as well,” Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley said at the time.

Megyn Kelly has mentioned this vote several times over the past few weeks. But she has not played any video showing the vote or the floor debate. We live in a visually oriented society. Should we assume there is no CSPAN video of the debate and vote? If there is video, then Republicans are missing a golden opportunity to demonstrate all Senate Democrats are just as culpable as Obama is on the cancellations.

What does the failed website accomplish?

It keeps people from find out right how how they would be affected by it.

“That’s no moon,” and the number is not 5 Million, but 51% of employer-paid plans, as well–the good ones.

What’s incredible is the lack of shame or embarrassment from the supporters of Obamacare over this example of government incompetence. The NY Times comments section is replete with lunatics ready and willing to go full bore into “government run health care” aka single payer.

They believe in this fiction of single payer Medicare for everyone, but the reality would be sub-par Medicaid.

And I don’t hold out the hope that the GOP is willing to target every Democrat who voted for this mess in order to have a veto-proof repeal.

Not A Member of Any Organized Political | November 16, 2013 at 1:05 pm

and those “Death Panels” are a Known Known.

The insurance industry is “baffled”? They’re not “baffled”.

Why is it that it’s considered to be better communication to use euphemisms and vague inaccurate language? Are people really that delicate and sensitive that we can’t just talk plain and say what we mean? (And also, further to your post on Baldwin, that there is in fact little or no meaning in exasperated vulgarities that are shouted in anger. But meaningless spoutings they parse with a magnifying glass…)

I told you so…

Legalizing illegal immigrants is the solution to Obamacare: Democrat

This was the plan all along, and guess who pays for their subsidy??? Come on, did you really think potential Democrat voters would be left out and not be entitled to your money? You have to have your current policy cancelled and pay more under ObamaCare to pay for theirs as well. That’s why you, a citizen will never see a $2500 reduction, they will with fully subsidy (contrary to the article’s assertions) but you won’t.

[…] insurance commissioners for the chaotic mess Obama is to blame. Lisa Myers of NBC News explains in an investigative report why Barack Obama is to […]

After everthing becomes an unmitigated disaster and Obama has finished blaming everyone and their dog…
When everyone has lost their insurance and Obamacare just can’t work…
Obama will come to the rescue with Socialized Medicine.
It will be looking like the only remedy at that point.
And all the Democrats will line up behind it.
Just as planned from the outset.
Game over.