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Shellie Zimmerman Police Report released

Shellie Zimmerman Police Report released

“evidence did not support the original complaint”

At a press conference earlier today, the Lake Mary, Florida, police indidated that no charges have yet to be filed against either George or Shellie Zimmerman based on available evidence.

The iPad which may contain video is in such bad shape that it might be weeks or months before video is recovered. The iPad apparently was joint property. The outdoor surveillance video shows several people from the house, including Shellie, confronting George on the driveway, but not physical violence is shown.

The police also just released their report.

“As the on scene investigation continued, I was advised the evidence did not support the original complaint and based on this
[redacted] – was taken out of handcu1fs but I stayed With him during the Investigation.”

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“Due to the lack of physical evidence, Independent witnesses, and conflicting statements, no charges will be flied on [redacted] for battery domestic violence.”

Police Report – Shellie Zimmerman Complaint Against George Zimmerman


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So what? The Lake Mary Police Department looks like the guy in the laundromat who keeps putting dimes into the dryer, for more hot air.

The story went viral IMMEDIATELY. Because? Well, Police talk over monitored airwaves. And, Zimmerman’s name was probably mentioned. And, that’s what created all the media attention.

Did Shellie’s story fall apart? Yup. Is it “common” in divorces for women to shriek about violence? Turns out to be true, too.

Through it all George Zimmerman remained calm.

Isn’t it possible that George Zimmerman represents “every man?” A guy that gets caught up in a web of STATE SPONSORED INTRIGUE, where he constantly has to defend his life.

You know it helps that lawyers arrived at the scene. Shellie’s lawyer prevented her from signing a police report that would make her 911 call sound rational.

And, O’Mara showed up. Since the Lake Mary police are not charging George Zimmerman with any crime, O’Mara said “his job is done.” (He’s not the divorce lawyer.) And, he’s not the lead attorney in the NBC libel case. Son of a very famous Trial Lawyer, Jim Beaseley, is in charge of that case. Dad’s dead. Son is continuing in his practice. Case may probably be settled before it hits a jury? This incident, invented by Shellie Zimmerman, doesn’t change the libel case “negotiations.”

How fast can the divorce be done?

California’s supposed to be fast. It’s said it “could be done” in six months. But I found it took a year.

This case will end up in front of a Family Law judge. Hopefully one better than “farley ridiculous debbi half nelson. That’s for sure. But you’re still in Floriduh.

It’ll get covered.

Will Shellie go to jail? Well, she lied during the bail hearing. She’s on probation. For a year. Maybe, he’ll reconsider “probation?” (In that case she had stuffed $130,000 from her husband’s defense fund into her pocket.)

Money does funny things to people.

The Lake Mary police aren’t quite out of the woods on this one, either. (What an ugly way George Zimmerman, who was fully cooperative and calm, was forced to his knees at gunpoint. You call that good police work? Where? We’re in America.)

    CJOffermann in reply to Carol Herman. | September 11, 2013 at 6:38 pm

    I remember hearing something about her wanting GZ to get some life insurance…did he? Is it in effect? The claims she made seemed to be aimed at a tragic result, no?

    About stuffing $130,000 from GZ’s defense fund into her pocket … the one site states:

    “ is the only official website for the Zimmerman Legal Defense Fund Trust, raising funds for the defense of George Zimmerman.”

    If any funds are used for other than GZ’s defense, is there any potential for interstate wire fraud and federal prosecution?

    My state just sent Jesse Jr. to the slammer for spending campaign funds on personal items. Just wondering if the same fate awaits Shellie?

If Franz Kafka was still around he would be writing Zimmerman’s biography. Well that and he would be really old.

Given the prosecution’s conduct during George Zimmerman’s trial, I cannot shake the sneaky feeling that this might somehow have been part of her plea bargain agreement on the perjury charge.

It’s awful to think, but that’s how his prosection was handled: awfully, and with malice.

Shellie was set for trial. She was offered the plea deal. And, to a lot of people’s surprise, she took it.

What was never clearly stated is what the judge knew during that bail hearing. He KNEW Shellie had withdrawn $130,000 from the defense fund. (And, yes. O’Mara stepped forward, there, and took control of the Defense Fund. Plus, Shellie could no longer make any deposits or withdrawals. The account was turned over to Robert Zimmerman, George’s older brother.)

For all anyone knows Shellie could have been “threatening” George with a divorce behind the scenes? Given the pressure he was under during the Trayvon Martin murder trial.

She and her lawyer were looking for the advantages you get from the generosity of the American people.

How long ago did I learn this? During Ronald Reagan’s first term Congress held an “Iran-Contra” hearing. And, Ollie North (An Army Colonel) became a major witness. Nope. He wasn’t eaten alive. Though the politicians tried their best. Coming in through the mails were checks for the good Colonel. More than $2-million. Which gave him quite an advantage. Today, Ollie North is a millionaire. Not the usual outcome for a colonel in the army.

So far, it seems Shellie is very poorly represented by legal counsel. Boy, in a world where half the lawyers are below par … she picked herself some doozies. How much out of the $130,000 she took from her husband’s defense fund, has ended up inside the pockets of her poorly chosen legal counsel? It’s a mystery. But lousy lawyers also come at high cost.

Why did poor George need to destroy Shellie’s iPad, the one that had video of what George had been doing prior to his breaking the iPad over his knee and then cutting it open with his pocket knife?

If you take the time to read the police report, many officers completed a statement, only one commented about the circumstances not matching what Shellie told 911, but that was from his/her perspective of his/her small observations.

And one of George’s companions told another police officer that George did have guns in his truck when police arrived. Isn’t it possible then that George took his gun off of his person as he sat in his truck awaiting the police to arrive, because he knew Shellie had called them.

    ThomasD in reply to DriveBy. | September 11, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    It is also possible that golden coated unicorns guard Obama while he sleeps.

    But I find that no more credible than you.

    Carol Herman in reply to DriveBy. | September 11, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    Per the surveillance video that’s been released,it shows Shellie following George around the yard very aggressively. Then, she hits him with the iPad into his back. (Which is probably the point where it broke.) For some reason George then took a pen knife to it. (Maybe, he was trying to fix the hinge that came off when Shellie hit him in the back?)

    Hardly likely there’s a case to be made against George.

      Maybe after being hit with it he was mad, but rather than hit a woman he broke the iPad in frustration.

      Perhaps he was fed up with all the things Apple does to control their customers and use of their products? Personally, I will not use Apple products because of Apple’s underlying nature.

    Phillep Harding in reply to DriveBy. | September 11, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    That may well be the case, that he disarmed in the truck. (I would personally be surprised if he was not carrying, considering all the threats.) Still, Shellie and her father eventually changed their story and stated that they did not see a firearm, making the presence of a firearm not relevant.

    SmokeVanThorn in reply to DriveBy. | September 11, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    So now it’s “George took his gun off of his person as he sat in his truck awaiting the police to arrive, because he knew Shellie had called them.”

    This is at least the third version offered by JiveLie.

    citizenjeff in reply to DriveBy. | September 11, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    “Why did poor George need to destroy Shellie’s iPad…?”

    Why do you think it was Mrs. Z’s iPad?

    “Isn’t it possible then that George took his gun off of his person as he sat in his truck awaiting the police to arrive, because he knew Shellie had called them.”

    So what? Do you know that George claimed otherwise?

    “If you take the time to read the police report..”

    Maybe YOU should take the time to read it. It says that George denied threatening anyone with a gun. It doesn’t say he denied possessing a gun.

Today, Lake Mary police say it may take them months, but they will be able to access the contents of Shellie’s iPad!

They also said Shellie HIT George on the back with the iPad.

And, besides the expense, “charges” may develop from this episode.

Or not.

Spokesperson for Lake Mary’s police department LOVES being on TV. This is the same guy who announced they “found a gun” on George. No. They didn’t.

    Phillep Harding in reply to Carol Herman. | September 11, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    I just checked Google for ipad repair. “Months” to recover what’s on it????

    citizenjeff in reply to Carol Herman. | September 11, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    “They also said Shellie HIT George on the back with the iPad.”

    No, Carol, that’s George’s assertion, not the police department’s. But otherwise your comments here are excellent.

      Carol Herman in reply to citizenjeff. | September 11, 2013 at 8:13 pm

      I listened to the PIO (police information officer) SAY that Shellie threw the iPad against George’s back. And, that’s how it broke.

      George doesn’t have eyes in the back of his head.

      Though he did have to put up with Shellie’s tirade.

      Shellie was NOT supposed to be there during the time George was present. She not only came there to confront George, she also (because you can hear it in her 911 call), tell her dad “to get back in the house!”

      Because she said George could shoot at them at any time. And, her father was having a heart attack. Plus, George had punched her dad in the nose. The medics came out. And, her dad was examined. No signs of having a heart attack. And, NO facial wounds at all!

      What was Shellie’s motive? Maybe, she thought if she got the police to accept the “domestic violence” issue … George would lose his license to carry guns.

      Whatever it was that Shellie tried, it failed.

      Just as she failed during the bail hearing to sound so innocent over taking out $130,000 in funds sitting in PayPal. And, TELLING THE JUDGE she and George were broke.

      The law really does have ways to bite you in the ass when you lie in court.

      Yesterday’s behaviors, since she called in the Lake Mary local police? They’re still working on the broken iPad … to see what these two said during the time George kept running away from Shellie … and she kept pressing him … with her iPad “running.”

      I’d bet they both want a divorce. Shellie wants a “piece” of the future .. should there be any book deals. Or a settlement George gets with NBC. These big items are in the hands of lawyers.

      I don’t see Shellie getting alimony.

      I don’t see Shellie getting a life insurance policy, since the couple never had kids.

      And, I do see a shift in the needle where Shellie lost support, and George gained support for just staying calm.

      What a wife! “You punched my dad in the nose!” Huh?

      Sure, she’s been interviewed on TV. So has Dee-Dee.

        citizenjeff in reply to Carol Herman. | September 11, 2013 at 9:25 pm

        “I listened to the PIO (police information officer) SAY that Shellie threw the iPad against George’s back. And, that’s how it broke.”

        What about the footage of George apparently smashing it, and George acknowledging he did so? I assume various cops made various comments, and I have no reason to doubt you if you say one of them misspoke. But your interpretation (as opposed to a quote) of something the PIO said is certainly NOT the official position of the police department. It couldn’t be.

        I don’t think it’s implausible that Mrs. Z whacked Mr. Z. I’m just warmly encouraging you to refrain from presenting opinions and suspicions as if they were facts. As I said, your comments are generally excellent. Why diminish your credibility, Carol?

          JackRussellTerrierist in reply to citizenjeff. | September 11, 2013 at 9:43 pm

          He did something to it with his hands – tried to fix it or wreck it further, then simply tossed it onto the grass. He didn’t smash it, as in stomping it or throwing it resoundingly onto the sidewalk.

          But even if he had smashed it, it’s community property.

Divorce is ugly. Both George & Shellie look greedy. It is awful to destroy an Ipad. Those 2 need to stay away from one another and move on with their lives.

Connivin Caniff | September 11, 2013 at 4:13 pm

Did I miss a story about Shellie taking 130k out of the defense fund? Did George or his attorneys know about it? What did she do with or use the money for? This is very interesting.

    Carol Herman in reply to Connivin Caniff. | September 11, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    I saw the money information on the Internet. Shelley was in charge of the couple’s bank accounts when George was in jail.

    The judge asks Shellie about money in the Defense Fund. (He was looking for accurate information so he could set bail for George.) Shellie’s testimony said they were jobless. And, in debt. And, had no money.

    Meanwhile checks were coming in the mail from strangers who were donating money to George.

    (At least since we know how N.S.A. works, retrieving a history on Shellie’s deposits and withdrawals was EASY!) And, you bet, the judge HAD information about this bank account. (Actually, more than one. Shellie had a “system” where she’d make a deposit … and then “some withdrawals” where she was using other accounts.)

    At the bail hearing O’Mara stepped forward to take control of the Defense Fund. (This included preparing a Trust document for all future donations. Shellie was removed from this account. And, O’Mara went to Robert Zimmerman to be the person who signs. Robert, not Shellie, was put in charge of endorsing checks.)

    And, while most of us don’t know how generous the American people are. People are very, very generous in their support.

    By now the account has way more than $130,000 in it. Each day the trial was televised lots of Americans came forward with donations.

    Shellie smells money. Is she entitled to half the funds raised? Would O’Mara, who put this trust fund together, make a mistake like that?

    Shellie’s very riled! And, money she thinks she’s entitled to also plays into her anger.

    Phillep Harding in reply to Connivin Caniff. | September 11, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    Google search Shellie Zimmerman $130000

    What I’m reading here now conflicts with what I read here back at the start, about GZ walking her through transferring funds while in jail.

99.9999% of all marriages would fall apart going through what these two have had to endure for the past few years. I don’t see George as a hero for the trial, but a regular guy and his wife under extraordinary circumstances.

I wish them grace and dignity as they put their lives back together in the coming years.

Will Al Sharpton now lead protests until they appoint a special prosecutor?

MouseTheLuckyDog | September 11, 2013 at 5:39 pm

Shelly to hold a press conference at 6pm Florida time (yawn).

    What is Shellie trying to accomplish with all this face time in the news? Go home, honey, and pray you’re not brought up on charges of making a false complaint against George.

    I was out on the porch clipping my dog’s nails, so I missed it. But here’s the summary:

    {…} Sims also said that George Zimmerman had recently purchased new “junior G-man” shoulder holster and his shirt was open, so Shellie Zimmerman feared a gun.

    “Shellie had valid reason why she believed George was armed,” Sims said, adding that Shellie wants her divorce “to end with a whimper, not with a bang.”

    Sims also described Shellie Zimmerman’s life since George’s July 2013 acquittal in Travyon Martin’s death as like the “Tower of Terror”

    (for those not familiar with it, “Tower of Terror” is a ride at Disneyworld in Orlando, where the press conference was held)

    What sublimely ridiculous people these are.

      DriveBy in reply to Amy in FL. | September 11, 2013 at 7:38 pm

      George did not want the police investigators to see ANY video of what went down!

      From your link, quote:
      “…Shellie called authorities, police were investigating and George Zimmerman did not give police surveillance video but later relented after his attorney arrived, Sims said.”


      “…Shellie and George had an agreement that they wouldn’t be at the house together at the same time, but George still “showed up” to the home on Sprucewood Road even though he “knew he wasn’t supposed to be there.”

      So I can suppose that O’Mara did not like what he saw on the video, what George told O’Mara after the incident about his role in this, not to mention that George showed up where he was not supposed to be with a freakin’ posse, so O’Mara dropped George as a client in these matters…

        From your link, quote

        You are quoting a reporter who is paraphrasing what Shellie’s lawyer said at a press conference he called to try to salvage what’s left of his lying convicted perjurer client’s reputation.

        LOL. That’s three gallons of stupid in a two gallon bucket. Bless your heart.

        LSBeene in reply to DriveBy. | September 12, 2013 at 6:25 pm

        Has anyone noticed that “DRIVEBY” posts stuff that is deliberately wrong, intentionally agitating, and when he’s proved wrong he just moves on and does not respond?

        He like a bird that flies over and craps on people and enjoys the sqawks and screams and then flies off and does it again.

        Don’t feed the troll.

Shellie is on probation for perjury. It is inexplicable to me why a person on probation would initiate police contact in anything other than a life and death emergency.

The police reports say her report was not consistent with their investigation. Shellie is playing a dangerous game. In some states that kind of police contact would be enough to revoke a probation.

    DriveBy in reply to sequester. | September 11, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    Quoting you:
    “Shellie is on probation for perjury. It is inexplicable to me why a person on probation would initiate police contact in anything other than a life and death emergency.”

    Well, if Shellie was not doing anything wrong (committing a crime), which is likely the case here, she should be as comfortable calling the police for assistance as any other resident of her city.

    Funny how many here loved Shellie and worried about her perjury charge, many fretted on and on about it and gave her prayers. But now all of a sudden she is an evil person capable of nearly any kind of treachery. George could use a little scrutiny, IMHO.

    And BTW, Shellie does not want any charges filed against George, although the police may differ with her wishes after they recover the video from her iPad that George destroyed. Shellie wants the marriage to end in a whimper; read more here:,0,5060626.story

    And yes, George did have his gun on him during the confrontation, O’Mara confirmed that George had it under his shirt the whole time. And obviously George put it in the truck as he waited for the Police to arrive, George’s own friends confirm that too…

    Quote from the link, corroborated by officer statements in the Police Report:
    “…though a woman who was with Zimmerman told officers there were guns in his car.”

      sequester in reply to DriveBy. | September 11, 2013 at 8:17 pm

      Yes, I know, “The policeman is your friend“. Just ask Merritt Landry.

      Avoiding police contact should be a goal of anyone on probation. Not so much as a speeding ticket. Probation is just that, probation.

      Initiating police contact by reporting a domestic disturbance where the police write “evidence did not support the original complaint” is not good.

      By the way, if it turns out that Shellie had withdrawn 100K from the defense fund and did not disclose it, she had some explaining to do.

      SmokeVanThorn in reply to DriveBy. | September 11, 2013 at 11:57 pm

      God, you are a pathetic liar. Not worth wasting my time pointing it out any more – every one here has seen through you.

      LSBeene in reply to DriveBy. | September 12, 2013 at 6:31 pm

      DriveBy Lied when he said:
      “Well, if Shellie was not doing anything wrong (committing a crime), which is likely the case here, she should be as comfortable calling the police for assistance as any other resident of her city.”

      Shellie did not say “gee, he MIGHT have a gun” – she said he had one. She did not say, “I IMAGINED him hitting my father” she said GZ had hit her father.

      Lying to the police is wrong. Maybe not in YOUR book, but in any normal person’s world it’s wrong.
      DriveBy Misconstrued when he said:
      “Funny how many here loved Shellie and worried about her perjury charge, many fretted on and on about it and gave her prayers. But now all of a sudden she is an evil person capable of nearly any kind of treachery. George could use a little scrutiny, IMHO.”
      a) GZ has been scrutinized. Where the f**k have you been!?
      b) At the time she got all that sympathy all everyone knew was via the MSM which made them BOTH (her and GZ) appear sympathetic to everyone watching the persecution (errr … prosecution?) of GZ.
      c) “All of a sudden” – meaning we now know what a lying manipulative schemer she is and we don’t like it – due to new information coming out.

      You’re really not very good at debate are you DriveBy?

      and why do you think that Shellie Zimmerman was read her Miranda Rights? hmmmmm

      The only one who was read Miranda Rights was Shellie Zimmerman.

      The police gave domestic violence material to George Zimmerman.

    sequester in reply to sequester. | September 13, 2013 at 5:41 am

    Just to be clear the police report indicates:

    I then spoke to [George] after Ofc. Hernandez had read him his rights under the Miranda rule. [George] explained that
    he and David had engaged In a verbal argument over the property ..

    The Gadfly Driveby and his cavil remarks have no place on this blog.

What’s “interesting” about the latest event is that it was Shellie’s creation. She wasn’t supposed to be at her dad’s place. The day before there had been an appointment … where both Shellie and George went over their possessions and divided things up.

When Shellie came, however, she got George to run around outside, and she followed him with her iPad. Probably making statements, hoping she’d get him to respond. Finally, she throws the iPad at his back … And, then she calls the police complaining about domestic violence.

Interestingly, she went for the jugular. Accusing George of having punched her dad in the nose! IF the police had filed charges against George, the fact that he “punches people in the nose” would go against what we know came out in trial. (And, at least George had the wounds to prove it.)

Why is Shellie so angry? Well, people are generous. There must be lots of money that’s been collected to reduce his legal expenses. The whole argument is about what she can get.

And, now, what’s happened to her reputation in the process. Since the local cops sure did an extravagant “take down” of George Zimmerman, who had been fully cooperative. At least O’Mara came onto the scene quickly.

As too did Shellie’s lawyer. (Who had to walk her statements back.)

It’s not a crime in America when people send you money. And, even though Shellie is married to George, the money was specifically sent to George. To help him pay down his legal expenses.

What went wrong at the bail hearing? Shellie LIED. (And, the judge probably already had records of what PayPal had received.) She tried to fudge. And, for some reason this didn’t work out.

George was in jail. If he told his wife to use funds to pay their bills, what’s wrong with that? Did the judge get angry because there weren’t that many unpaid bills? He could have charged George. But he didn’t. He charged Shellie.

And, at the last minute, instead of having a trial in August, she “plead.” (Pled?) … On the advice of the lawyer she had hired. Nobody seems to be commenting on the type of advice she gets.

As to claiming George is an aggressive and violent guy, she loses.

The local Lake Mary police seem to be running around like military militia. How did this ever happy to our local cops?

    citizenjeff in reply to Carol Herman. | September 11, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    “Finally, she throws the iPad at his back …”

    Not clear if you’re asserting a “fact,” or offering a hypothetical scenario.

I am surprised anyone had time to do anything. They seemed to be really busy videoing and snapping pictures.

In some states, yes. But THIS state is the one that prosecuted George Zimmerman despite knowing it had no grounds to do so.

My guess is Shellie can do no wrong in Florida, as long as she’s willing to say bad things about George.

    You’re aware that Shellie was charged, tried and convicted on perjury charges for lying in court, right?

    Shellie’s the only one who came out of this with a criminal record, in fact.

It was my understanding that George and Shellie had a fight and Shellie left the house the night Trayvon was killed. Evidently, this couple had problems before that incident. Shellie sounds like someone who feels entitled to half of the money already acquired and also what will come in in the future. Probably because she suffered during the last two years with all the death threats and the probabtion. She messed up. She should reined in that temper and waited until the money came in. Aangry people let their emotions get the better of them and they lose.

    DriveBy in reply to BarbaraS. | September 11, 2013 at 9:03 pm

    Angry people might bust up an iPad that has video evidence on it and then split it open with a pocket knife, or perhaps they might deny access to the home surveillance video to the police that are trying to investigate, or maybe they might bully their wife by chasing her around their home videotaping her and taking photos of her while she is simply trying to get her stuff – on a day and at a time that they had agreed “the angry person” would not to be there, and maybe he might bring guns and a posse to the party to further intimidate her… Psycho pig! But I don’t know, I mean because George is just such the perfect angel. Why can’t everyone just leave him alone and let him get on with his life?

BannedbytheGuardian | September 11, 2013 at 9:13 pm

This is the end for gay marriage in Florida.

Not lookin too good is it guys?

So the Orlando Sentinel is reporting the Shellie Zimmerman press conference as “Bizarre”

“If you were looking for any clarity on the situation that took place on Monday … you are clearly not finding it here,” anchor Jim Payne said. “This is one of the most bizarre displays I think I have ever seen.”

It looks like Shellie has totally decided to go her own way (i can understand that) but she hired a bunch of clowns,0,4988575.story

Even as bad as the OS article makes Shellie look terrible.. keep in mind they hate George a lot more than Shellie.

    MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to Vince. | September 12, 2013 at 1:49 am

    I’m listening to the press conference now. I had to stop what I was doing and turn it back a little.

    SZ’s lawyer, the Joker ( he can’t be the Batman but he’s driving the Batmobile so he must be the Joker ) just called her Shellie-kins.

    Is he stupping her? For how long has this been going on? Is this some scan that they have been planning to pull on GZ?

Here is a link that shows the text messages between Shellie and George that day:

The article also has information about the TWO (2) women that George was cheating with before Shellie had enough and filed for divorce. Woohoo!!!

But seriously, how did that violent, selfish, childish, slob find one woman let alone two women that wanted to have sex with him while he was still a married man? Maybe it is was the mirrored sunglasses, the Junior G-Man holster, the gross obesity, the cool facial stubble, the raggedy unkempt clothing, the diminutive stature?

On a positive note, Shellie has lost 30 pounds since she left the cheating man-child.

    Phillep Harding in reply to DriveBy. | September 12, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Perhaps you’d get laid if you asked him for advice?

    SmokeVanThorn in reply to DriveBy. | September 12, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    You tried to paint yourself as the objective voice, dealing in what you called “facts” while everyone else was blind. Every time you were asked to cite evidence for your “facts,” you were unable to do so – because you are a liar.

    With this comment, you drop any pretense that you are in anyway objective and reveal yourself for what you are – someone consumed and polluted by a visceral, unreasoning, pathological hatred for a man who lawfully defended himself and was persecuted for doing so by the State of Florida to appease the race hustlers.

    We knew it all along.

    a woman by the name of Stephanie was in the car. She was not arrested.

    Yet again you prove yourself to be a lying piece of troll.

L-I commenters are the best. Thanx y’all.