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Zimmerman police press conference LIVE (video released)

Zimmerman police press conference LIVE (video released)

Update — House surveillance video released

Late Update:

Police released the home security system raw video. The video looks like someone was videoing a screen, and was able to zoom in and out of the screen.

The video doesn’t show much until about the 6:45 mark, when several people including a large man confront George on the driveway. The man puts his hand on George. It then appears that the man either gave George or he had with him what likely was the iPad. It looks like George was doing something to it (Shellie said cutting) and then threw it on the ground:

Zimmerman House Video iPad

Other than that, the video doesn’t show any sort of confrontation, although throughout it people, including what appears to be Shellie holding the iPad, follow him around in a somewhat aggressive posture, getting between him and the car he was filming.

FOX 35 News Orlando

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Lake Mary, Florida, police are holding a press conference as to video just released of the altercation between George and Shellie Zimmerman.

Prior post: iPad video important to Zimmerman dispute as police continue to investigate.

Police dash cam video (full embed at bottom of post) shows Zimmerman being placed into custody. It is not known if the police will have news about iPad video which may show the confrontation.

UPDATE: The Police have not yet decided whether to charge anyone. The witnesses in the house did not clearly see the confrontation and are unclear as to what happened. The video on the iPad has not yet been recovered, but the police expect that it will be, and at that point they will make a decision. The police did not search the car because all witnesses, including Shellie and her father, told police that they did not actually see a gun, and the police did not believe they had probable cause to search the car.

[Press conference over, will post video when available]

Full Dash Cam video:

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PIC: Police draw their guns on #GeorgeZimmerman after yesterday's domestic disturbance at his home. pic.twitter.com/lw0KkGdgT8— Mike DeForest (@MikeDeForest6) September 10, 2013

Shellie’s lie about him being “armed and dangerous” could have gotten him killed. And it appears that there are those who wish it would have been so:

@MikeDeForest6 why didn't they shoot first and ask questions later like George does? That's messed up! Where is the justice?— Kathleen Elias (@kathleenelias0) September 10, 2013

    DriveBy in reply to Amy in FL. | September 10, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    Everyone except George lies? O’Mara admits that George had his gun on his waist, under his shirt, during the confrontation:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr_ObFTP4RI

    George must have pulled his gun off of his belt and left it in the truck before he got out of the truck to make that fantastic video! Loved it!

      Lake Mary Police Department spokesperson Zach Hudson told Legal Insurrection, “Nobody saw a gun, none of the witnesses saw a gun, no gun was taken, we didn’t find a gun.”

        DriveBy in reply to Amy in FL. | September 10, 2013 at 7:40 pm

        Et tu Amy? In this very blog the police state that they did not search the truck because they did not have probable cause; and in the YouTube video of the O’Mara interview he confirms that George was armed, had his gun, on his waist, during the confrontation in which he destroyed Shellie’s iPad. And you of all people, who has such trouble with believing news reports; maybe you can believe what the police say they searched and / or did not search, or maybe even what Mr. O’Mara reports that his client, George, told him of the event(s)?

        Quote:
        “The police did not search the car because all witnesses, including Shellie and her father, told police that they did not actually see a gun, and the police did not believe they had probable cause to search the car.”

          all witnesses, including Shellie and her father, told police that they did not actually see a gun

          Exactly. And yet the lie is still being actively promulgated.

          She may as well have claimed on 911 that he was running around waving a plastic turkey threatening everyone with it.

          Phillep Harding in reply to DriveBy. | September 10, 2013 at 8:31 pm

          Concealed carry laws normally require that anyone in official contact with police inform the police if he or she is armed. The police were supposed to have detained GZ, and they normally disarm anyone they detain.

          If GZ had a firearm on him when the initial confrontation took place, where did the firearm go between then and the arrival of the police, if not into his vehicle?

          healthguyfsu in reply to DriveBy. | September 10, 2013 at 9:17 pm

          A non-eye witness lawyer makes a statement based on incorrect information he received from the details about the scene. Happens all the time. Did you expect that O’Mara was omniscient? I’m sure he appears so from your limited intellectual perspective.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Amy in FL. | September 10, 2013 at 8:32 pm

    LOL! Shellie really looks terrified following George around with that iPad. After George tossed the iPad, which apparently was handed to him, Shellie gets on the phone, probably to 911. So while she’s telling 911 about George being violent and hitting her dad and being in his car with a gun pointed at them daring them to step closer, George was actually just out walking around doing nothing. Meanwhile, she’s making all these panicked, histrionic claims about what he’s supposedly doing, none of which is true as we can see.

    Maybe it was THEIR iPad and he had as much right to trash it as she had to use it.

    She’s walking around cool as a cucumber while she’s supposedly afraid for her life.

    Are the cops really considering prosecuting him, or are they using that as a ploy to get Shellie to keep digging her own hole?

    George needs to get a restraining order against his wife and her father. She is apparently gone off the hinge. Apparently “He thinks he is a untouchable”, and that makes him guilty of something.

    Breaking her statement down, saying his untouchable, seems to mean that he cannot be “screwed” or “framed” for a crime and this is her attempt to do so, executed incompetently

Much ado about nothing.

I am sure NBC, the Crumps and Martins are saying to Shellie You go girl!!!.

What an absolute fool.

    I’m kinda waiting for Shellie to hire Gloria Allred and get this freak circus show into high gear.

      MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to walls. | September 10, 2013 at 6:39 pm

      Ouch yes. I hadn’t thought of that.

        I did last week when SZ was making the rounds on the networks and it was leaked she’s demanding 4K in spousal support/alimony. I’m willing to bet dollars to donuts that someone from the St. Skittles cabal has made overtures to her re: getting George to do something stupid. There may even be a juicy little book deal for her, perhaps that’s what’s on the iPad and George found out about it? Anyhoo…while I don’t doubt that GZ has some mental issues (who wouldn’t after being maliciously prosecuted and losing 18 months of your life, not to mention having no possibility of a job, constant death threates, etc), I think SZ is now thinking of symbolically and publicly divorcing GZ as a means of self-preservation and perhaps as a meal ticket. GZ is in dire need of some counseling and handlers. He doesn’t need to go anywhere near his wife. If he needs anything, he should send someone else to get it. He also should consider moving to Texas and keeping a low profile for a long time.

MouseTheLuckyDog | September 10, 2013 at 6:46 pm

The video I’m wondering about is the video of him smashing the iPad. Not some commmon video of someone being handcuffed. You can see the same thing on Cops every week. Assuming Cops is still shown.

Is it such a slow news day, that we have to continually be vultures picking away at the life of George Zimmerman?

Seriously, Professor? Is there not a single newsworthy event that can trump this?

What is the morbid fascination of watching a man’s life get destroyed? Schadenfreude?

Can we move on? I would, for my own part, appreciate never having to see George Zimmerman again, except in reference to other events having similar circumstances.

It is, however, not my blog. So you keep doing what you will Professor. I am making commentary, after all 🙂

    turfmann in reply to Paul. | September 10, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    Paul, I think you’re missing the point. Certainly, there are thousands of bad wives calling the cops on bad husbands with a certain number of them making all manner of false claims to get the other spouse thrown in the clink out of spite.

    Zimmerman is different in that his prosecution was more a political persecution, and since the progressive left that was so enamored of the racist thug Martin, a boy that was so very young and so very misunderstood (and so f’ing dangerous) that his MURDER must be avenged outside of our legal system, and they did not get their pound of flesh…

    This man will be hounded by the press and anyone else that finds common cause with the degradation of American values.

    Count on it.

    And don’t be surprised if Shelley doesn’t do a stretch of time for making false statements to law enforcement – something she is already on probation for right now.

    MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to Paul. | September 10, 2013 at 8:26 pm

    Actually for those of us who have a casual ingterest in the law, it gives us a good look at the dirty underbelly of divorce law.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Paul. | September 10, 2013 at 9:23 pm

    The next time you have an opportunity to watch Les Miserables, DO take advantage of it.

Big deal! Dueling Husband and wife have a little hissy fit and husband breaks wife’s favorite toy! Like this is so unusual and needs to go to trial! PLEASE!

Shellie is so scared of George that she follows him around video-taping him with her iPad? Seriously?

    DriveBy in reply to Kitty. | September 10, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    Well, in fairness she obviously felt threatened / afraid; George had a gun and she did not. A video of what was happening would be useful if something bad did go down and so she used her silly (non lethal) iPad video function to capture whatever stupid thing(s) George decided that he could do and that he could get away with. What’s the problem with that?

      raven in reply to DriveBy. | September 10, 2013 at 7:42 pm

      No, “in fairness,” he DIDN’T have a gun. You want to persist in this lie?

        DriveBy in reply to raven. | September 10, 2013 at 8:01 pm

        Whoa! What lie are you talking about? Are you saying that Mark O’Mara is lying when he says that George was armed during his confrontation with Shellie and her father?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr_ObFTP4RI

          SmokeVanThorn in reply to DriveBy. | September 10, 2013 at 8:32 pm

          No, DriveBy, you’re the one saying O’Mara was lying.

          You’re the one who wrote “George must have pulled his gun off of his belt and left it in the truck before he got out of the truck to make that fantastic video! Loved it!”

        SmokeVanThorn in reply to raven. | September 10, 2013 at 8:12 pm

        That’s what DriveBy does. He lied repeatedly about the evidence at trial. When he was challenged to cite the testimony supporting his claims, he clammed up.

        JackRussellTerrierist in reply to raven. | September 10, 2013 at 8:40 pm

        Yes, he wants to persist in this and all other lies. That’s what trolls do. If people would quit replying to the asshole, maybe it would get bored and leave.

    Old0311 in reply to Kitty. | September 10, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    She is a piece of work alright.

    Archer in reply to Kitty. | September 10, 2013 at 7:47 pm

    I wonder if the 911 dispatcher told her they don’t need her to follow him, and if she obeyed that “command.”

    Kitty, I noticed the same thing.

    However, to my sensibilities I came away thinking that the way that she was doing that with her ipad showed a certain amount of aggressiveness. It has been bugging me since I watched that part of the footage.

What about Shellie’s allegation that GZ punched her father in the face and broke his nose? Shellie told the 911 operator to send an ambulance for her father because GZ assaulted him so badly, he looked like he had a broken nose and he was about to have a heart attack. Is there any evidence that she was telling the truth?

    MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to Amy in FL. | September 10, 2013 at 8:00 pm

    There is evidence that she lied. At least about the ambulance.
    You can hear her fther saying in the background he doesn’t need one.

    Apparently no one got hit in the face or anywhere else. Just some shoving. EMTs reported no visible injuries.

    MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to Amy in FL. | September 10, 2013 at 8:24 pm

    Actually there are two things she clearly lieing about. In the video, it is obvious that she looks inside the truck. That is the only place the girlfriend could have been and not been seen by Shellie. So Shellie is lying when she pretends on the phone that she first sees the woman.

    Those lies are the reason why she didn’t press charges. Sims was probably white when he heard what happened and told her that if she let it go and didn’t make a statement it might slide by. Otherwise she might get something on George but she was facing a probation violation.

      Midwest Rhino in reply to MouseTheLuckyDog. | September 10, 2013 at 8:49 pm

      It’s almost like she knew the 911 call would make the news, and she was getting talking points in there, perhaps having been coached.

      Stage-crafting the news? Reality TV … but faked. Big Money in that, especially with Zimmerman for the hook. A producer might help, or her lawyer, or political enemies of GZ.

        JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Midwest Rhino. | September 10, 2013 at 9:13 pm

        It’s pretty obvious she set this all up to try to get George arrested, his guns/protection taken away, get more media attention/drive some more money her way for it.

        She was there the day before at the appointed time to get her stuff. Then she comes back the next day unannounced, unscheduled, with her little iPad video at the ready and proceeds to take stuff not hers in the property agreement. It’s obvious she was trying to provoke George into some act that she could hang him with.

        I wonder if she would be happy if she got George’s guns taken away, leaving him unprotected, and then somebody kills him. Is that really what she wants on her conscience for the rest of her life? This woman is about to become a nurse. Remind to steer clear of her if I ever get sick.

      JackRussellTerrierist in reply to MouseTheLuckyDog. | September 10, 2013 at 9:31 pm

      She’s facing a possible probation violation as we speak. She doesn’thave to be charged and/or convicted of anything for the court to violate/rescind the deal/probation, according to the plea agreement. If the court believes she broke the law by making this report, the whole deal can be flushed, the year in jail can be imposed, and there will be no dismissal/expungement.

Hmm! It was all over the news of course–with erroneous reports.

I am sure that a lot of people will be disappointed if GZ is not arrested, beaten to a pulp, hanged and drawn and quartered.

Turns out that she and her Father came to his house and tried to take away stuff that was not included in their divorce agreement.

I suggested after the trial that he head for the hills of Idaho, or some other place that is friendly to white (hispanics).

“Lawfully having a permitted weapon on the person while engaged in a dispute” is not the same as “armed and dangerous.” Amy is correct to characterize that statement by Shellie as a lie.

If you think the mere presence of a firearm on the person makes someone “armed and dangerous,” you must be petrified to go into a donut shop.

theduchessofkitty | September 10, 2013 at 8:34 pm

OK George,

Listen now, if you want to thrive, not just live.

You better give her that divorce – with nothing attached to it. She’s not worth your freedom or your life.

Then, get the HELL OUT OF FL! Run as fast as you can from that place. You should know by now that, no matter how you live your life from now on, you will NEVER be considered “good” by the American intelligentsia or the black “community”. They all have put a price on your head, innocent or not: don’t give it to them – not even for free.

Then, reach to the Russian Embassy in DC and request political asylum. Yes, I said it: defect to Russia. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but it might save your life in the long run.

Make sure this becomes an international event. Remember that a Russian newspaper (Izvestia or Pravda) had stated in a well-thought, historically-well-considered editorial, that no one ever should give up their guns. Russian veterans of wars gave them up during the 1918 Revolution: they paid for it with their lives, as the Bolsheviks made sure all their guns were confiscated before their unexpected execution.

Remind the Russians of that editorial – as hypocritical as it may be. Vladimir Putin, a thug as he might be, is an expert on “never letting a crisis or a situation go to waste.” He will know what to do with your asylum request. (He will probably grant it.) It will be embarrassing to the President of the United States… but he needs to suffer a serious international embarrassment. Maybe, perhaps, the American people will wake up to what he and his beloved “community” are all about.

(Make sure your whole family can go with you to Moscow, at least voluntarily. Your parents have suffered enough.)

Learn Russian. You already know English, but I don’t thing they care over there. Get cracking into a good job in Moscow, St. Petersburg, or wherever you think you can live a great life. Yeah, go to law school there. Pursue your dreams, and stay away from the vodka – that stuff ruins lives.

Finally, find yourself a damned-good-looking, pistol-bearing Russian woman. Yep, a Russian bride without the mail-order. Any woman who looks like Anna Chapman should do. And make sure Shellie gets ALL the pictures of the wedding and honeymoon at the Sea of Azov.

The kids will look gorgeous.

P.S. Tell Gerard Depardieu we say “Hi!”

For some reason George Zimmerman is a hot button that when touched stories go viral.

Shellie does NOT live in that house! She had no appointment to be there, because the day before she was there for the two of them to “split their kitchenware.”

I guess she didn’t get all the pots she wanted.

And, I’m not so sure her call to 911, CONTAINING LIES of guns and an altercation … was why the police arrested George. NOW? The police have no case!

Perhaps this is just another example of DIVORCE COURT. Calling Judge Wapner.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Carol Herman. | September 10, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    The police didn’t arrest George. They detained him for questioning which is totally normal and usual procedure in a domestic violence claim, that’s all.

So far I’m not impressed by season 3 of George Zimmerman. Season 2 was the best. I don’t think they’ll be able to top it.

BTW – The guy who played the medical examiner last season was cut from the cast and apparently Mark O’Mara is quitting the show.

    Baker in reply to myiq2xu. | September 10, 2013 at 9:04 pm

    I’m with you. I think the medical examiner was cut because he needed to check into a memory rehab clinic. Maybe when he gets out he can get a role as an extra in “Total Recall III” when they start production.

    As far as O’Mara is concerned, I think he can easily see the story line has become like a “Real Divorces of Florida” reality show. Plus, he needs to pay a few bills while he is waiting on the check from Season 2 to clear.

Phillep Harding | September 10, 2013 at 8:53 pm

Hold on a minute.

Who was in the house?

The police “detained” George? They had their guns drawn. They had him go down on his knees. And, there’s a possibility one of these “hot shot” cops could have blown George’s brains out.

When a post on Zimmerman shows up, here, you sure can see traffic increasing! It’s probably going to make the police stand back for a minute … since they don’t want to come out looking as stupid as Shellie does.

Why was George at this house? HE’S THE TENANT! Shellie moved out a week or so, before. Her dad is the landlord. If George paid his rent on September 1st, the landlord has no permission to “just show up at will.”

And, Shellie had no business being there, either.

Will the local police end up with egg on their faces? Whom will they charge? How much will they spend on finding out what Shellie recorded on the iPad? The security footage shows her being very, very aggressive. Plus, it shows her on the 911 call bloviating FALSEHOODS. A typical 911 call?

Remember this story is now viral.

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Carol Herman. | September 10, 2013 at 9:18 pm

    Yes, they detained him. He was not “arrested”. He is not charged. Shellie made a claim that George was armed and threatening them with a gun. The police followed normal procedure for handling a suspect until he or she is “cleared” of weapons. There weren’t any. George was then questioned about what happened. SOP all the way.

I’m disappointed by the video. All that CONCRETE and NO head bashing. Not even a stubbed toe.

Right now, Shellie’s lawyer is worried. Just like the bail hearing where Shellie was caught lying to the judge. (She was miss-spending the money coming into the defense fund, to the tune of $130,000). Her divorce lawyer’s gotta know the 911 call is not in Shellie’s favor.

Shellie’s not married long enough to claim alimony. And, there are no children. The high stakes drama started to play out here, over pots and pans.

What Shellie’s lawyer should suddenly want is a very clear divorce, without the high-stakes payout the lawyer was rooting for. If this can be accomplished, this story will be over very, very quickly.

For those who wonder “where does enough money come from?” It comes from donations to the legal defense fund. And, ahead, from lawsuits. Omara’s not the lead attorney in the libel case against NBC. But George stands a good chance on winning that fight.

Ahead, what will the 911 call bring? Probably it will put Shellie “out of da’money.” (And at that bail hearing? Shellie’s checkbook was taken away. O’Mara became the “go-to” guy on the Trust. And, George’s brother, Robert, was put in charge of the funds.)

If you’re waiting for books, ahead, look for stories that deal with the money. And, how generous the public has been in supporting George’s defense fund.

The lead lawyer in the NBC libel case is someone named BEASELEY. His father, Jim Beaseley, was a very famous trial lawyer. That’s the case that has a lot of money riding on it.

NBC is accused of altering the 911 tape so that it sounded like Zimmerman hated black people.

I don’t think the NBC case is going to be tried in Florida. Just Zimmerman’s divorce case. And, as soon as he can exit from his marriage to Shellie, he’s got no reason to stay in Florida.

You might not call taking Zimmerman into custody an “arrest.” But it sure looked ugly to me. Local cops dressed up ready to kill. Aiming a rifle at Zimmerman’s head. Telling him he had to go down to his knees. Then, “fold your legs over.” And, “keep your hands behind your back.” This is normal, every day stuff?

IT’S GONE VIRAL! What if lots of people who’ve viewed the video think the cops used excessive force?

    JackRussellTerrierist in reply to Carol Herman. | September 11, 2013 at 12:15 am

    Yes, it is indeed SOP when first dealing with a subject who is allegedly armed and on a violent rampage. Consider the allegations Shellie made in her 911 calls. The cops stood down at the appropriate time – when the subject was cleared – and then began the investigation.

    The level of response to the claims in her calls is what has placed her in legal jeopardy now. The LMPD rolled out a whole lot of manpower and firepower over this lying pig’s claims. She may be looking at serious legal trouble, if there’s any justice left in this country. But nothing was done to Crystal Mangum for her complete fabrication of a crime that never occurred and the horrific legal jeopardy and debacle it created for four innocent young men, so who knows if anything will be done to Shellie or not.

      I would think that the difference is the fact that Shellie the aggressive is already on probation. She blew it when she decided to do all of this.

      I honestly found the way that she was filming George to be very aggressive.

        DriveBy in reply to Aussie. | September 11, 2013 at 10:26 am

        Good that George did the right thing and “very non-aggressively” disarmed Shellie of the iPad that she was wielding and destroyed that dangerous device before Shellie hurt someone with its video capabilities!

Wasn’t there something in the news a few days ago about GZ’s wife wanting him to get life insurance? Could that be part of this? He got what she wanted, it went into effect , and then she tried to get the police to take care of things for her?

She had better hope George didn’t get that life insurance or she could be tried for attempted murder by cops. That insurance would definitely be a motive. But this is Florida. I predict the whole debacle will be forgotten. Really, George should sue his landlord (father-in-law) for obstructing him from entering his townhouse. All, I can say is, be careful who you marry. There are plenty of nuts out there like Shellie who will go to any lengths to get their way. I know. I married one.

Being as that survailance system in the house probably saved George a million or two, and possibly several years in the pen if the “eyewitness testimony” did not have anything to counter it, I would say that’s a very cost-effective investment.

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