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Elizabeth Warren and the death of ethnic truth

Elizabeth Warren and the death of ethnic truth

One of the great successes of Elizabeth Warren’s campaign has been to destroy the concept of truth and falsity when it comes to ancestry.  What you believe, or what you were told, becomes the operative standard.

The effect has been to excuse Warren’s ethnic fraud in the minds of liberals who never “checked the box” based on their own questionable family lore.  The honest questioning of one’s own ancestry becomes the excuse for exonerating Warren from a decades-long attempt to take advantage for employment purposes of a status she knew she did not meet.

I wrote previously about the writer at The NY Times who concluded “When it comes to family lore, true and false are often beside the point”

Here is another example, Susan Parker writing at The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Me and Elizabeth Warren

Parker recounts the supposedly traumatic childhood incident when she was confronted at an Italian-American event and questioned whether she was really Italian, because she didn’t look Italian:

Let me say here that my brother and sister and I did not look the least bit Italian as did our cousins. My blonde, blue-eyed grandmother was from the north of Italy. I must have heard a thousand times about some German sneaking over the Alps.

From that experience of looks not matching actual ancestry, Parker concludes:

Recalling the tale, the adults made a buffoon out of me, never understanding that the ugly questioning about my name, the stark challenge to my identity, had so terrified me.

Elizabeth Warren, I know your pain.

There are, of course, huge differences between Parker and Warren. 

Parker actually was part Italian, Warren is no part Native American; there would be no potential advantage from Parker’s ancestry, while Warren “checked the box” many times at a time when “minority” and “woman of color” status was a potential advantage; Parker self-identified as part Italian, Warren avoided Native Americans her entire life like the plague; Parker appears to speak honestly, Warren has not.

Dear Susan Parker, don’t feel Elizabeth Warren’s pain.  She has none. She’s a fake who got caught.


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legacyrepublican | October 27, 2012 at 9:38 am

Even though I have an Irish surname, my ancestry is really quite diverse. English, Irish, Scotish, French, German, with small traces of Spanish and Italian. No native american as far as I can tell and I have done an extensive genealogy.

The point I am making is that people when they hear my name automatically assume full Irish. That is okay ( except when I travel to England where I have received ethnic slurs ).

Elizabeth Warren refuses to do a DNA test which would give the true answer.

My question is why? If her genealogy, which is so important to her because it gives her reason to be here, does have native american blood, why not show it for all the world to see by giving us a blood sample which would clear up the whole thing.

    Jack The Ripper in reply to legacyrepublican. | October 27, 2012 at 2:26 pm

    The Brits hit you with ethnic slurs?

    I am sure that as a polite American, you simply smiled and went on about your business, but, fess up, weren’t you the least bit tempted to reply, “Oh yeah? Well, at least my teeth are straight!”

    I’m 1/16th Turk, so I’m checking the box the next chance I get.

DINORightMarie | October 27, 2012 at 9:39 am

Wow – who knew? Back when I was 18, I could have “checked the box” and maybe attended Harvard, Yale, or my dream – Princeton – because my Dad said we were Cherokee descendants!

You see, I don’t have the research papers he did, but he said his father’s family was descended from the Cherokee in NC and the Blue Ridge/Allegheny Mountains. But he said he researched it, and so it must be!

“…I coulda been a contendah…I coulda been somebody…..”

    Jack The Ripper in reply to DINORightMarie. | October 27, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    Sorry DINO,

    Squaws are not to be trusted.

    Oh, wait! I got the wrong lesson from Elizabeth Warren and her defenders.

    You are to be trusted if you BELIEVE that what you are saying is correct. But, that only applies to liberals.

    President Bush had plenty of credible evidence to be concerned about WMDs in Iraq, and a tough choice to make. I believe he genuinely believed the intelligence, and, in fact, there was a couple thousand liters of anthrax recovered, and convoys into Syria that still have not be explained. But, no matter.

    Only those who adhere to Liberal Orthodoxy are entitled to the benefit of the Elizabeth Warren Doctrine, no matter how inconsequential the truth of the matter. Remember, she claimed to be only 1/32nd Cherokee and Harvard and Penn exploited that to game the racial spoils system. Not like she added any real diversity to anything, not even diversity of opinion.

    Scott Brown should put out an ad applauding all of Elizabeth Warren’s efforts on behalf of Native Americans and Native American causes. Heck, through TIAA-CREF, some of her investments include Large-Cap Utilities and Large-Cap Energy Companies. Some of those drill on Indian land and pay severance royalties. So there! You see? Fauxchowhontas has supported Native Americans, and she was completely selfless and altruistic in doing so.

TrooperJohnSmith | October 27, 2012 at 9:41 am

If this is the new standard, then doesn’t this kill the concept of racial quotas, preferential hiring, minority set-asides and diversity? Won’t this kill those annoying census questions and completely disarm the bureaucrats at EEOC?

Aren’t we all black, now? Except for me, I’m now Cherokee, Choctaw, Kiowa and Sac-and-Fox. Which makes me more oppressed.

    Sorry, Trooper, but this is a new standard for liberals only. The first conservative checking that box will be taken to task because somehow…it will be different.

      TrooperJohnSmith in reply to gasper. | October 27, 2012 at 3:54 pm

      Yeah, I’d never pass the bullsh!t. You know, the one where you stand around at Lefty cocktail parties, sipping white wine, eating black beans and tofu crap and pretending to really give two sh!ts about the caus de jure and whine about the chilllllldren.

      Uh-huh. I’m already outed, and I ain’t even tried to pass, yet.

When lying constantly becomes the norm, one has met all the prerequisites to enter liberalism. Life in the world of utopia certainly does not apply to rational beings.

It’s a black ‘n white comparison… Scott Brown a successful Republican moderate vs Warren, a lying hypocrite obfuscating rabid liberal.

The third ingredient here is the MA electorate which consists chiefly of a dumbed down public.

Helluva scenario, eh?

You can accept postmodernist self-constructions of ethnic identity as truth, or you can have affirmative action programs…but you can’t have both.

By embracing Elizabeth Warren and validating her lies and con artist behaviors, these people are causing the death of affirmative action programs. You simply can’t run affirmative action as a spoils system if everyone gets to game their identity.

Either that, or affirmative action has been a scam all along and the liberal elite has always already known that.

Elizabeth Warren you’re a pain in the ancestry.

Parker’s a putz!

Since the Germanic wars…from wince Romans made Teutonic folks citizens…there have been blonde, blue-eyed Romans, and later “Italians” (there was no “Italy” until quite recently in history).

My Scots ancestors were both 1) big on travel, and 2) big on procreation. So LOTS of people are part Scots! From every corner of the globe. It is worth remembering, too, that Highland Scots were Vikings who stuck after a raid. So…LOTS of Viking stock alllll over the place.

Ignorance of history is a peril.

The inability to reason displayed by Parker is another.

    Icepilot in reply to Ragspierre. | October 27, 2012 at 11:36 am

    Don’t forget William the Conqueror – a decendent of the Vikings that conquered Normandy. Or the Vikings that founded Dublin.

Believe me, living in the state that gave the country the Kennedy Crime Family, a little racial misrepresentation will never keep the low information, I mean, Democrat base from voting for her. In western MA, the signs are about 8:1 in Brown’s favor, but I don’t know if it can offset the takers in the cities.

Of course, on the other hand, we shot down bilingual “education” pretty quickly back in 2002 (,_Question_2_%282002%29), so there is always hope.

    casualobserver in reply to Dimsdale. | October 27, 2012 at 11:27 am

    Sadly, the latest Rasmussen poll has Warren over the magical 50% and ahead of Brown by about 5. The machine works well in MA. I think she is tapping into the still not dead resentment of many workers in the state who buy the big, bad, evil corporation campaign theme. After all, so many businesses, especially manufacturing, have left the state for greener pastures over the past decades. You don’t have to go far in the state to find a lot of “victims” of ‘corporate greed’ or people on disability, etc. The western part of the state has been the hardest hit. The eastern part of the state still benefits from high tech start-ups and the like, but still cannot win over other locations for top spots in any.

casualobserver | October 27, 2012 at 11:29 am

I hope Brown has a last minute ad and in person campaigning blitz, as he has not overtaken Warren in most polls regardless of how pitiful she seems to the average non-Democrat.

Elizabeth Warren, I know your pain.

If I had $5 for every liberal that has told me “You don’t look Puerto Rican,” I’d be rich.

“Me and Elizabeth Warren”? “ME and Eliz”…

Doesn’t that tell you pretty much all you need to know about the intelligence of Susan Parker?

This has nothing to do with anybody feeling anybody else’s pain. This only has to do with electing Elizabeth Warren and enacting the Progressive aka Socialist agenda as comprehensively and as soon as possible. That’s all it ever has to do with. Ethnicity, honesty, history, humanity — nothing to do with it.

You know, they say that all of the human race can be traced to an ancestor in the African continent.

We should all put African American down whenever asked this question. If confronted about it, act indignant and threaten to sue the organization or person doing the confronting and asking the question.

Maybe if enough people quit cooperating in this paper work apartheid we’d be done with it.

Same with the TSA. If every one up and boycotted the airlines and told them why they weren’t going to fly anymore, you can bet your boots they’d get someone in the Gov. to put an end to their egregious behavior and their constant attempts to expand the scope of their authority and their power.

TrooperJohnSmith | October 27, 2012 at 12:38 pm

From Bad Eagle (a real American Indian)

Ann Coulter is Cherokee:

Makes more sense than Warren’s claim.

They reject procreation as a fundamental principle of evolutionary fitness. Presumably to control population growth and specifically of undesirable and inconvenient individuals. Why wouldn’t they also ignore other principles of evolution, including homogenization? We are all human beings of different genders, shapes, sizes, colors, etc. The consequential difference is not incidental features, but our consciousness and its expression through our words and actions.

Their decision to exploit differentials in order to advance their political, economic, and social standing has delayed and threatens to cripple positive progress and improvement of the human condition.

Operative standards for truth? Scott Brown thinks Warren’s violating operative standards? You must be joking!

He says he’s pro-choice while voting for the Blunt amendment, he says he’s for equal pay while voting it down (Emily’s list calls this an l-i-e).

He says he had secret meetings with kings, queens and prime ministers –which he repeated multiple times by the way — and then said he “misspoke”.

Brown told CNN. “And the president had called me, and vice president calls me, and Secretary [of State Hillary Rodham] Clinton calls asking for my vote all the time.” NOTE: “all the time”. That would be two times that he talked to Clinton with the last over a year ago.

He said his Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge Act was to stop insider trading but CNN disclosed that there was a loophole big enough to drive a truck through, namely that his congressional buddies could have their relatives do the insider trading for them. His claims not to have known weaken the stance he took with Warren when he claimed “… I read these bills and then understand what they’re about, and that’s when I vote”.

He took $10,000 from a compounding firm that successfully asked him to write the DEA to get the rules relaxed, and he took another $37,000 at a party arranged by the same check donor shortly after co-signing the requested letter to the DEA. While he is certainly not to blame for the meningitis outbreak, it can be said that he didn’t look the gift horse too closely in the mouth. He gave back the $10K when outed but not the $37K.

He maligns a Warren advocate by saying she was a paid actress when she was, in fact, a legitimate victim re the asbestos case. He called that “jumping to conclusions”. Then he put a man in his own ads who made racist comments elsewhere. He gets to call himself a “veteran” of Afghanistan after only two weeks duty there – which he requested. Tell you what: Warren is ma uch more likely Indian than Scott Brown is a “veteran”.

The operative standard is not different that the one in place when he claimed molestation which he never mentioned to anyone,not even his mother or his wife. We didn’t question his personal experience as a child and he ought not question Warren’s for the same reasons. You have to walk a mile in those shoes to know what it was really like.

I am amazed by the number of “journalists” who apparently remain traumatized for life by some variation on “my looks didn’t match my ethnic heritage”, “my family lore said…” etc. Perhaps we should start a fund to help provide counseling to these poor, suffering, misunderstood souls.

The important point, IMHO, is that Ms. Warren filled out documentation claiming that she had evidence that she did not, in fact, possess. All the stories of “heritage” and “family lore” do not excuse a trained lawyer from falsifying documentation. She has no evidence of any actual “origins” and has not had anything to do with Native American tribes or cultural organizations. In order to claim the mantel of “minority” as she did, and was feted for doing in articles and official recognition, she had to have both.

A highly trained lawyer is expected to know the difference between “family lore” and “evidence” and to be able to read the simple requirements listed on the documentation she submitted. Ms. Warren fails on this simple standard.

Parker’s little sob story sounds like a crock of barack. Italians KNOW that northern Italians are a lot more “Nordic” looking than Southern Italians, and the lightest of the Northerners look down on Sicilians in particular with the contempt of George Wallace (D) looking down at black folk.

Jack The Ripper | October 27, 2012 at 2:40 pm

Look, I do not know if the following Warren Family Lore is accurate, but it does not matter, because I believe it to be true:

Elizabeth Warren’s youngest child, her son, came to here with a question.

“Mom, how did I get my name?”

Elizabeth said, “Well, when your older sister was born, your father Jim looked out the flap of the teepee and saw an eagle way up in the sky. So, we named your older sister Soaring Eagle. Why do you ask, Two Dogs Fucking?”

The tribal government, in the absence of some legal obligation which stipulates otherwise, has final jurisdiction over who is a member of the tribe. People who self-identify as Indian but are not a part of a federally recognized group often wish to join a recognized tribe.

[Per a Bureau of Indian Affairs official:}
“We check and find that they haven’t a trace of Indian ancestry…. Sometimes such persons are called “Wantabes”, searching their family history and attempting to find records of Native Americans in their family history…. Most in this situation are not successful, and can be called “Outalucks.”

All I can think of is the beginning of the film, “The Jerk,” where Steve Martin’s character says, “I was born a poor black child.” Link for your enjoyment: