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Elizabeth Warren’s biggest whopper of them all

Elizabeth Warren’s biggest whopper of them all

Warren just pulled this out of her bag of victim lines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xu_LTt2wJM

There is something frighteningly Obama-like in Elizabeth Warren’s self-descriptions.  Warren paints a personal narrative of rising from poverty and being the descendant of the brutalized Cherokee tribe, when in reality neither was true (and irony of ironies, she’s the descendant of someone who likely brutalized the Cherokee).

Her academic work carried forward the victim narrative, as she misleadingly portrayed medical expenses as the primary cause of personal bankruptcy, and used innovative number crunching to portray a “two income trap” which, using a fair analysis of the numbers, actually pointed to marginal tax rates not the evil banks and credit card companies as the primary culprit.

Yet The Boston Herald has stumbled upon what may be Warren’s biggest whopper of all, the claim that she was the first woman in the history of New Jersey to sit for the Bar exam while a nursing mother.  Via The Boston Herald (emphasis mine):

Warren, who had no public events yesterday, again refused an interview request from the Herald, responding to questions instead through a spokeswoman by email. Meanwhile, campaign officials scrambled to address another claim Warren’s made about her life’s story.

“I was the first nursing mother to take a bar exam in the state of New Jersey,” Warren told an audience at the Chicago Humanities Festival in 2011, in a video posted on the CHF website. When asked how Warren knows that, her campaign said: “Elizabeth was making a point about the very serious challenges she faced as a working mom — from taking an all-day bar exam when she was still breast-feeding, to finding work as a lawyer that would accommodate a mom with two small children.”

Winnie Comfort of the New Jersey Judiciary, which administers that state’s bar exam, said there’s no way to verify Warren’s claim. Comfort said women have been taking the New Jersey bar exam since 1895, but she’s not aware their nursing habits were ever tracked.

(video added)

Of course no one tracks whether women taking the Bar are nursing.  Who would track such a thing?

Warren just pulled this out of her bag of victim lines.

It is classic Warren, an unverifiable and unrefutable claim in which the truth doesn’t matter, only whether the statement serves a political purpose.

Related: Hundreds of Cherokees form new group to challenge Elizabeth Warren

Update:  Alana Goodman at Commentary sees the point:

On it’s face, Warren’s comments seem to be silly but harmless self-congratulation, and that’s how a lot of voters will probably see it. But it does speak to a pattern of exaggerating and stretching biographical details. It’s not just the substance of Warren’s claims that’s troubling, but the habit.

Additional Update: There has been some suggestion that Warren was just joking around when she made the bizarre statement. There is no way Warren was joking around. In the morning I’ll post a longer clip in which it will be clear that Warren’s statement about taking the Bar was just one in a long line of gender-based obstacles Warren was recounting to the audience.

5-31-2012: Here’s a longer version, the remarks come just after the 2:00 mark (the full 1 hour video is here):

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DavidJackSmith | May 30, 2012 at 11:59 am

“I was the first nursing mother to take a bar exam in the state of New Jersey,” Warren told an audience at the Chicago Humanities Festival in 2011, in a video”

I assume she was carrying the baby in a traditional Indian papoose?

Professor, I surely admire your efforts with regard to exposing the wishful thinking of a typical liberal running for public office.

Yet, I fear that your efforts may go by the wayside because of the liberal mentality that is Massachusetts. Just like the defeatist attitude that prevails in our home state of RI, nothing ever seems to change.

But I thank you for your efforts and this blog where reason is the operative word…

2nd Ammendment Mother | May 30, 2012 at 12:07 pm

I can’t remember the timeline –

Would the dates be right for her to have demanded an accommodation to take a break or receive extra time to step outside and nurse a baby based on an ADA claim?

and for grins, did anyone compare her children’s ages to those claims?

finally, I’m not sure how you would check those claims, but breast feeding wasn’t that popular 25 years ago – I was a mere undergrad with a full time internship and found it virtually impossible. I could only guess how a law student accomplished the feat.

    ADA was passed in 1990, and Warren received her J.D. in 1976, so unless Warren is a time traveler in addition to being a Cherokee, she would not have been able to make an ADA claim when she took the bar exam.

    Interesting that women have been taking the New Jersey bar exam since 1895, but it wasn’t until 1976 that a nursing mother sat for it. What are the odds of that? Probably the same odds that Warren is telling the truth about being a Cherokee.

      Strangely enough, the odds of that aren’t actually that bad. If I’ve got the math right, there is a 1.13% chance that in any given year a female student would be nursing.

      The number of women lawyers at that time was much lower. I have to make a lot of estimations. The Bar of NJ would be able to provide the exact numbers of women whom had taken the bar in 1976, but a little thought exercise shows us the rough odds:

      There were 38,000 women lawyers in the United States in 1976 (per Bureau of Labor Statistics) and that increased to 62,000 in 1980 (which made up 12% of all lawyers). Per Women in the Law “Role of Women Lawyers in American Legal History” article from the New Mexico Bar Journal (not sure of date). So, (((38/62)*100)*.12) yields approximately 7.35% of all lawyers in 1976 were women just for background/scope.

      Divide 38,000 by 50 states and you would get an even spread of 760 female lawyers per state. East Coast is more likely to have more lawyers, so for the sake of making the numbers work, we’ll multiply it by 150% to be 1140 female lawyers having taken the bar in New Jersey as of 1976.

      The average age of a law student is roughly 24, so you’re sitting for the Bar exam at age 26 (ish).

      Assuming an even spread, the ages of practice in law would be 26 to 65 ish, yielding 39 years of active practice. So we divide that 1140 by 39 to get the number of female attorneys taking the bar every year (average) of 29. Again, since I don’t have the actual numbers, I’ll average it.

      For basic analysis purposes, let’s say that 5% of female law students are attempting to become pregnant in law school. I think that percentage is high, but I can’t find any data on it at all, so I’m making a guess.

      So, for the sake of the math, here’s the rough analysis:

      29 female students per year who are going to take the NJ bar *.05 = 1.45 students per year attempting to become pregnant. 80% of those attempting to become pregnant do so (1.45 *.8 = 1.16) In order to be nursing during the bar exam, you would have to become pregnant in the L2 year or VERY early L3 year, so you have a 1 year pregnancy window. So divide that 1.16 by 3 (to account for the female law student becoming pregnant too early to still be breast-feeding or too late to have given birth prior to the bar exam, and you end up with a 0.38 students potentially nursing during the bar exam every year (1.16 / 3=0.38).

      That works out to be roughly 1.13% [((0.38/29)*100] chance that any given year a female law student would be nursing when taking the bar, if I got the math right.

      On the other hand, I might be totally off my rocker, but that’s the best guess that I can make at it.

        Midwest Rhino in reply to Chuck Skinner. | May 30, 2012 at 4:13 pm

        I have no idea of your stats, but Warren seems to be a calculating woman, so she may have calculated the odds she could get away with such a baseless claim.

        “Assuming an even spread, the ages of practice in law would be 26 to 65 ish, yielding 39 years of active practice. So we divide that 1140 by 39 to get the number of female attorneys taking the bar every year (average) of 29. Again, since I don’t have the actual numbers, I’ll average it.

        WHAT? you take the bar exam at the beginning of practice, not every year. I see no reason to divide the one year she took the exam by the total years of practice.

        Just take your 1% of the maybe 1000 that PASSED (I think you calculated passed, not took) the bar exam and you get TEN. But the real point is that Lizzie just made a big fat baseless claim. she is Native American, she is nursing … hear her ROAR!

          Like I said, this is just my best guess at the math.

          I meant that there were 1140 women licensed to practice in the state of New Jersey TOTAL in 1976, and thus the average practice length would be 39 years for any given female member of the bar.

          Thus, to get to that number of 1140, 29 new female law students would have to take (and pass) the bar every year and continuously practice starting 39 years earlier (more if the number was growing, which we know it was).

Each revelation demonstrates how much Warren is like Obama. The two of them demonstrate the liberal characteristic of shameless lying, together with pushing the victim theme. They are examples of the depths to which our country has sunk and are activists attempting to sink it further. To me they are both despicable and worthy of constant scorn.

    OcTEApi in reply to Rick. | May 30, 2012 at 1:11 pm

    Liberals have little concerned for facts, logic and reason…

    Its all about emotion and feelies.

    Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.

    persecutor in reply to Rick. | May 30, 2012 at 1:12 pm

    Like Dear Leader, their lives are a compendium of composites; the stories sound believable but never survive the scrutiny we give it. Witness Obama’s mother’s cancer horror story recently retrotted out (despite having been shown to be false the first go ’round), and now her nursing mother story.

    Unfortunately, only our side gives it scrutiny.

    The LSM waxes poetic over how magnificient they are and how lucky we are to be in their presence.

    Barf!

“Of course no one tracks whether women taking the Bar are nursing.”

Well.

Um.

While I was quite absorbed in the test…I might have noted that activity.

But, seriously, folks… LOTS of us take the bar exam under FAR less than idea circumstances. If you are a nursing mom, you work around it. (I know this, having several daughters.)

    persecutor in reply to Ragspierre. | May 30, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    All I remember of the bar exam was that my head was looking down the whole time, and if someone was breastfeeding during the exam back in 1979, I sure as hell wouldn’t have known.

So did Warren have “crib notes” for the Bar Exam ?

DavidJackSmith | May 30, 2012 at 12:38 pm

The only verifiable thing about Warren is that she graduated from the 82nd ranking law school in the US.

And somehow ended up on the HARVARD FACULTY.

Now THAT’S rarer than a breast-feeding bar-taker.

    Midwest Rhino in reply to DavidJackSmith. | May 30, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    But I think most of the Native American women came from lower ranked schools, for some reason.

      Midwest Rhino in reply to Midwest Rhino. | May 30, 2012 at 4:58 pm

      Maybe I should clarify … not saying Native Americans go to lower ranked schools, AM saying it seems Harvard wanted a Native American (female a bonus on the minority scoring system) and would look far and wide. It seems they only found ONE.

      Eureka … we found her … let’s tell everyone about this woman of color we have cloistered … HISTORIC ! (let’s not check for actual ancestry, we are THAT desperate)

    AmandaFitz in reply to DavidJackSmith. | May 30, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    AND, when she graduated from the University of Houston in 1971, it was still called “Cougar High”- you didn’t go there if you could matriculate ANYWHERE else. Houston also has Rice University, so she can’t claim that she had to be in Houston and U of H was all that was available.

casualobserver | May 30, 2012 at 12:42 pm

When your ideology rests on symbolic suffering of classes and ethnicities, it isn’t surprising many cannot see the line that distinguishes reality from symbolic reality. In my mind, if you summarize what Warren has said so far about her claim of Cherokee heritage, for example, she rationalizes crossing the line through her desire to “share” with a group that symbolizes oppression (as the oppressed, obviously) in America. In other words, just as progressives see hundreds of shades of grey when it comes to their view of “moral” or “just”, they can see Warren’s actions as noble. Motive mitigates a lot of “wrong” in their view, it appears. Her feelings (belief in this case) trump law. She meant well.

Likewise, her baseless and perhaps not investigated claims about her “first” in NJ will be viewed by many as an honest mistake because her motive to represent a class positively was noble. Symbols are more important than reality.

It will be interesting to see how DeFranco, Warren’s only remaining Democratic competition, leverages any of this if at all as she is a full-progressive as well.

radiofreeca | May 30, 2012 at 12:47 pm

I read that (1) falsely claiming a deprived childhood, (2) refusing to admit mistakes and (3) denying a reality that is obvious to everyone else are all common in psychopaths. Not saying she is one, just reporting what I read a couple years ago…

Frank Scarn | May 30, 2012 at 12:48 pm

Who’s more looney, Granny Warren or the liberal voters of Massachusetts? I live here in MA. It’s hard to believe that this state was one of the Original 13 !!!

This is the same delusional woman who believes that she’s NOT wealthy, despite,

When asked about congressional insider trading on MSNBC Thursday night, Warren said, “I realize there are some wealthy individuals – I’m not one of them, but some wealthy individuals who have a lot of stock portfolios.” But as BuzzFeed points out, the Massachusetts Senate candidate is definitely one of them. Her own financial disclosure forms show she’s worth as much as $14.5 million, which according to The Wall Street Journal’s net worth calculator puts her comfortably in the top 1 percent of Americans, and she lives in a $5 million house.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/01/elizabeth-warren-one-percenter-denial/47997/

    lichau in reply to Frank Scarn. | May 30, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Let’s see: Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Barney Frank, now (likely) Pocahontas. I say the voters are the loons. Don’t take it personally, I live in CA, where Charles Manson would win any statewide race as long as he had (D) next to his name. In fairness, probably only by five to ten points instead of the usual 20.

    casualobserver in reply to Frank Scarn. | May 30, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    I’ve met a number of fully progressive academics like Warren, and in their view there are “right” ways and “wrong” ways (i.e. “good” and “bad”) to accrue wealth. Perhaps when making her statement about “them”, she is not thinking of wealth in pure terms but in progressive terms. Many of “them” earn by taking advantage and oppressing others. That assumption is often made without any further investigation, because many progressives believe if you are not actively seeking “fair” investments you automatically have no other concern but profit. I don’t know exactly how Warren accrued her wealth, but I would bet on the fact that she was intent on making a progressive political statement in her mind and not a purely factual one. The distinction could be as simple as the fact that she doesn’t invest the same way with her money, so she is different.

    Many MA voters vote for such progressives because they fit in either of two groups. One are those who have been somewhat left behind with the shift of the New England economy away from labor oriented jobs. Outside of construction, opportunities for the remainder of the traditional blue collar work force have declined sharply. So, they vote partially for a government that promises blue collar jobs and also for handouts. The other group are the many high tech ventures, especially those in early stages, that depend on the other handouts – grants, tax breaks, loans, etc. Many if not most of those organizations rely on government for survival, and when they reach a more self-sustaining point leave the state for domestic and international destinations that are more favorable for manufacturing. Battery maker A123 is a prime example. Most all of their manufacturing takes place in MI. It isn’t that MI is like other states such as TX or the Southeast in favorability. But it was better than MA!

Given her history of fabricating narrative out of whole cloth, it would be well worth checking:

Were her children even born yet when she took the bar? Or, on the opposite extreme, were they too old for this claim to be true?

    DavidJackSmith in reply to Aarradin. | May 30, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    I’d start checking that she even has children. Has anyone seen them?

    beloved2 in reply to Aarradin. | May 30, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    Didn’t you see her picture on the cover of Time magazine breastfeeding the 10 year old boy?

    Her website says her daughter was 2 when she started law school and her son Alex was born in 1976.
    You know, there must be a psychiatric diagnosis for people to have such delusions of grandeur? The only breastfeeding mother from 1895-1976 to sit the bar?

Warren’s milking the victim hood thing(“I can relate to mothers, Indians and used car salesmen)for all its worth.

I love how she acts like she is the only woman in the history of women to do anything significant while in the short time a woman nurses a child. I gave birth in the first week of Spring semester while getting my masters. I never even missed a class. Someone said to me “hey weren’t you pregnant last week?” I said yes and that I had the baby. People act like it is all so impossible. It is not squatting in the fields anymore people. Who cares if she nursed while taking the bar- if she even did that?

    persecutor in reply to Mary Sue. | May 30, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Fauxcahantas is a legend in her own mind! She’s the perfect post-modern woman!

    2nd Ammendment Mother in reply to Mary Sue. | May 30, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    Way to go Mary Sue – Our girls were born when we were undergrads and while I had my full time internship; the boys when I had a full time job and was working on my masters. I never missed a day of class or work. It’s nice to know I’m not the only crazy mother out there!

      High five 2nd Ammend MOM! I bet you never demanded work or school put in some breast feeding room to accommodate your “special needs” either. One big plus in not missing those classes or work, makes for a great comeback when one of the kids had phantom stomach pains or something hoping for a day off. Another big plus, makes the Elizabeth Warrens of the world look elsewhere for the medal or the monument they think they deserve. Don’t look at me sister, twas no big deal breast feeding and studying for exams. Fauxcahontas needs to get over herself.

        BannedbytheGuardian in reply to Mary Sue. | May 30, 2012 at 6:42 pm

        During the 70s I had a friend who had a baby whilst a university student. The Social Services wanted her to adopt the baby out. I vaguely remember her breastfeeding but I wasn’t into that stuff then. I remember her finishing uni & doing quite well. IShe must have done all her exams also.

        The funny thing is that this girl was an actual Indian – from the South of India who looked very similar to an ‘aboriginal ” /indigenous . Which is why they wanted her to adopt even though Federal single Parent support was available.

        Her husband was an anthropology student specializing in ‘Aborigina’ themes. When they visited ‘Aboriginal ‘ towns /camps the men would spit at her because they thought she was ‘Aboriginal ‘ & tha she was with a white man !

        I just remembered all that & thought – it is a reverse co incidence including the fact that my friend was a very sunny sort of girl * Warren does not appear to be.

          BannedbytheGuardian in reply to BannedbytheGuardian. | May 30, 2012 at 6:58 pm

          FYI Australian ‘Aboriginals ‘ are caucasian & likely related to the ancient Sth Indian tribes . Logically they migrated thru SE Asia to the great Southern land mass 60,000 years ago.

          I have read that American Native Indians are fairly recent arrivals. Pro Native Indian pC is halting further discussions.

          As another example – NZ Maoris claim native staus but they realy only got to NZ in the 1300 -1400-1500s in their canoes . This is a mere 300 years before the British.

          But they do great Hakas & tatoos so we forgve them their puny claims.

    janitor in reply to Mary Sue. | May 30, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    At this point I would not be surprised if someone came up with evidence that although she had a baby, she wasn’t nursing.

I have the same words of encouragement for the oppo researchers and for Elizabeth Warren:

Keep digging.

stevewhitemd | May 30, 2012 at 1:15 pm

Per Wiki:

After meeting some former classmates she was persuaded to study law,[10] and enrolled at the Rutgers School of Law–Newark, where she served as an editor of the Rutgers Law Review, and was one of two female summer associates at Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft’s Wall Street office.[13] She received her J.D. law degree in 1976. Shortly before graduating, she became pregnant with her second child, which made it difficult to pursue an active law career. Instead she worked from home, writing wills and doing real estate closings for walk-in clients.[8][10]

She and Jim had two children before divorcing in 1978: Amelia Warren Tyagi, with whom Elizabeth would later coauthor two books and several articles, and a son, Alexander Warren. Today they have three grandchildren.

Wiki does not list the age of her children, but a timeline suggests that particularly child #2 (Alexander?) might have been at the nursing age when Prof. Warren would have been expected to take the bar exam (a few months to a year after graduation, so late 1976 or into 1977).

So was she nursing her child at that time? Certainly seems reasonable. Was she the first ever nursing mother to take the NJ bar exam? As noted, women have taken the bar exam since 1895, so I rather doubt the claim.

    persecutor in reply to stevewhitemd. | May 30, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    If she said she did then it happened! What are you? Native-Americanphobic? [sarcasm off]

    janitor in reply to stevewhitemd. | May 30, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    If she graduated law school in late spring, wouldn’t she ordinarily have sat for the bar exam that summer? Or did she flunk the first one?

I am rather perplexed. If I correctly understand the process, it is the infant who does most of the “work” during nursing? So, what’s the question? Was it so tedious, or stressful, or was she ill-prepared for the exam that the nursing was a major, major distraction?

When I took the bar exam, I was also thinking of proposing marriage to my-then girlfriend. You talk about being under duress!

Actually, this didn’t happen. However, I have so very much rationalized it in order to better understand women and minorities, not to mention the benefits derived from being in a minority of those men who thought of marriage while taking the bar.

Many of Warren’s supporters are still at the stage of ignoring the truth about this woman and still suckling up to her.

Juba Doobai! | May 30, 2012 at 1:45 pm

That whopper is a two-bagger.

You took the exam like this, Lizzie /( . ) ?

Midwest Rhino | May 30, 2012 at 2:08 pm

Fluke was another law school victim … suffering terribly at the hands of Columbia misogynists. I think, between her subsequent trips to CA and Spain, she admitted the $9/month was not so much a burden to her, but she was speaking (and sympathy suffering) for ALL women. And what better way to represent others, than to pretend to be one of them, and perhaps gain fame and fortune at the same time.

LukeHandCool | May 30, 2012 at 2:11 pm

Breaking:

Second video found. Warren told audience she was first woman to perform self-administered pap smear procedure during a Kaplan PMBR MBE class, and first woman in New Jersey to use breast-milk pump during Bar exam.

    persecutor in reply to LukeHandCool. | May 30, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Isn’t that Sandra Fluke in the video handing the baby to Lizzie?

      LukeHandCool in reply to persecutor. | May 30, 2012 at 3:04 pm

      I think Sandra Fluke is the actual baby, figuratively speaking.

      “I was the first nursing mother to take a bar exam in the state of New Jersey, … try explaining that a thousand times to the proctors.”

      —Oh, Elizabeth, then explaining the proof for this story a few dozen times to reporters should be a breeze.

Cassandra Lite | May 30, 2012 at 2:32 pm

When Joe Biden tells this story, he says that he was Lizzie’s wet nurse.

    LukeHandCool in reply to Cassandra Lite. | May 30, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    Ms. Cassandra,

    Your book just arrived from Amazon. Looking forward to reading it! The person who did the jacket design did an awesome job! Hope you sell some movie rights!

      Cassandra Lite in reply to LukeHandCool. | May 30, 2012 at 4:18 pm

      LHC,

      Thanks so much. Absolutely, it’s the best cover I’ve ever had. I made specific inquiries to learn the designer’s name: Young Lim.

      Please let me know what you think of the book.

I checked into law school when my oldest son was 3 months old, and yes, he was still nursing. The school made no accommodations for me, nor did I request any. Handling that kind of thing is well within the scope of a normal, competent woman. I am surprised that somebody though it was worth mentioning as an accomplishment.

Long before I had ever gotten pregnant, I had decided that I would attend graduate school when I had my kids, because school is so much less work than a job. When I did get pregnant, I chose law school.

My cousin had explained to me that law was, in her opinion, the ideal profession for a woman with a family, mainly because you can work anywhere. If you are a chemist, for example, you have to take care of a bench unit, and there will be days when you cannot go home without losing a lot of work. A lawyer, however, can always gather up the paper, go where she needs to, and work there.

She was right. I’ve done work in the doctor’s office, the emergency room, at home, and at my parent’s house. I finalized and filed a patent application five days after my third child was born. I do not consider any of these actions to be in any way extraordinary for either me or the ladies in my class.

pilgrim1949 | May 30, 2012 at 3:48 pm

Well, Lizzie-the-hatchet Rabbit-Warren-for-Brains who has considered everyone to be boobs has now graduated from being a blond-haired “red”-head wannabe to a proving herself to be a bondafide “tit-twit”.

Midwest Rhino | May 30, 2012 at 4:37 pm

I really didn’t read Crazy Horse Warren’s claim to mean she was nursing during the actual exam … only that she was a nursing mother. (and perhaps she only meant she was nursing her baby, meaning giving nurse like care, not actually feeding from her breasts. The ritual peyote in her system from those Billy Jack times may have not allowed her to actually breast feed)

But if we could see her law exam scores, perhaps she wanted to use a biting baby as an excuse. In any case, she did the smart thing and left room for plausible deniability, while claiming full victimhood benefits.

    BannedbytheGuardian in reply to Midwest Rhino. | May 30, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    Most women become quite pcactical about feeding the baby

    A hungry 100% breast fed baby will take a bottle before starving to death. Babies are very smart . Quite often the smartest in the household.

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