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Elizabeth Warren is what?

Elizabeth Warren is what?

Native American?

I doubt this will move many votes in the Massachusetts Senate race, but it does illustrate how pursuit of “diversity” in higher education can drive institutions to make rather implausible claims:

Elizabeth Warren’s avowed Native American heritage — which the candidate rarely if ever discusses on the campaign trail — was once touted by embattled Harvard Law School officials who cited her claim as proof of their faculty’s diversity.

Warren’s claim, which surfaced yesterday after a Herald inquiry, put the candidate in an awkward position as campaign aides last night scrambled but failed to produce documents proving her family lineage. Aides said the tales of Warren’s Cherokee and Delaware tribe ancestors have been passed down through family lore.

I disagree about the impact. This is part of an emerging narrative of Warren claiming to be something she is not.

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Just a note. It’s possible to have American Indian heritage without being on the tribal rolls, so it’s possible that Warren does have Cherokee and/or Delaware Indian heritage. What I don’t get is why it matters.

    Frank Scarn in reply to OCBill. | April 27, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Don;t know if she American Indian or not, but what I do know, from her just released tax returns, is that she is unambiguously deep, deep inside the #OWS’s dreaded 1% class of wealth and income.

    But since she’s a lefty, she gets a pass.

    I have Cherokee ancestry proven by genealogy, We could be accepted by the Eastern Band. But _by law_ you can only be admitted to the Cherokee Nation (in Oklahoma) if you’re a descendent of a person on the Dawes Roll.

    The Cherokee married deeply into White colonists. Chief John Ross was only 1/8 Cherokee. It’s complicated….but proveable since they left great documentation in North Georgia and North Carolina.

    The on going, long time, conflict between the Delaware (Lenapi) and Cherokee makes me doubt what she says, though.

    vance9281 in reply to OCBill. | April 27, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    It matters to the tribes. If you are an enrolled member, that has meaning to them. For non-Indians, it seems trivial, but to the keepers of the tribal roles, it is very important. Enrolled members are eligible for various federal and tribal benefits. People who claim to be Indians when they are exaggeratng or lying are not viewed very favorably in Indian Country. For a Democrat, this is a big mistake if she is claiming to be something she is not or cannot substantiate the claim. Lots of people claim to have Indian blood, according to their family lore, but most who have this claim cannot back it up. It also may be true that they have Indian blood but not qualify for enrollment in a given tribe. If she can trace an ancestor to the Dawes roll, she can get enrolled under their rules. I know a number of Cherokee members who don’t necessarily look like Indians, but the Dawes roll is what counts. if she can prove that, she can back up her claim. If she can’t she will be open to deserved criticism.

      Estragon in reply to vance9281. | April 28, 2012 at 5:56 am

      The Dawes Roll is proof, but there were many Cherokees not on it. It is much easier to prove one has Cherokee lineage through it than to prove one is not Cherokee just because their family isn’t on it.

    Taxpayer1234 in reply to OCBill. | April 27, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    Or, she can be just like Ward Churchill and falsely claim Native American heritage.

    Neo in reply to OCBill. | April 28, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    It’s only matters to racists like Elizabeth “Pocamarxus” Warren

Quick, someone put together something in Photoshop, putting Warren in a headdress!

Agree^^it shouldnt matter unless the person is attempting to “prove” something or manipulate folks into reaching some silly “she does identify with minorities”.
But hey…perhaps some of her policies/thinking are a result of extended visits to the local sweat lodge.
That may explain things. LOL

It’s also an established fact that leftists trot out false indigenous ancestry claims to exploit the indigenous to lend themselves some kind of credibility. It’s also an insult to the indigenous. As someone who has indigenous ancestry, I can tell you that it rankles indigenous Americans in the worst way. What matters is character, and Warren is sorely lacking in character. She’s a liar, and a fraud.

Just saw that tweet. I was thinking “dances with Pluto”

Well, I was born in America, so that makes me a native American, too. Also, I lived part of my adult life in eastern Africa, so I am a true African-American as well.

Why, I am just oozing diversity from every pore! More than Professor Elizabeth “One-Percenter” Warren, anyway….

LukeHandCool | April 27, 2012 at 6:58 pm

She’s in the same tribe as Ward Churchill.

^^^LOL

Wonder if she will get kick backs when the three new casinos in MA open? We shall see. She is going to crash and burn just like Martha Coakley.

obowmao, warren and jay carney are all cousins. It is obvious they are all descended from Pinocchio!

I bet she has a lot of Creosote in her too!

BannedbytheGuardian | April 27, 2012 at 7:52 pm

I met a young lady (born 1985) whose 15 year old mother was an Iroquois prostitute. After I had recovered from this I asked her who her biological father was. -“Oh just a customer” -she replied. She was given up for adoption by her mother because she did not want her daughter to be led to the same path in life-as she herself was led into by her mother.

The thing is that even not knowing her ‘father’ there was no doubt about her Nth East Native appearance. The other famous NE Native adoptee was Buffy Saint Marie. They are pretty strong appearance genes.

Elizabeth Warren in both appearance & life history is not in the same universe.

Any benefits (none because she cannot trace her mother ) that the young Iraquois lady deserves are al given to the fake Elizabeth Warrens of this world.

It happens everywhere.

This raises a point I never really considered: in all these applications where we now must voluntarily self-report our racial identity, there is no verification at all. If I put down I’m Hispanic or native American, whose to say I’m not? Unlike in Nazi Germany, the government does not issue us with papers saying what race we are.

If I say I’m hispanic, is some bureaucrat going to say “sorry, you look too white to me, can you please prove you’re hispanic or native American?”

    Maybe you, like George Zimmerman, are a “White Hispanic”. If you are, there are only 2 of you.

    Estragon in reply to Malonth. | April 28, 2012 at 5:59 am

    At one point there was a federal rule that no one’s self-identification could be challenged. But it may have changed after some white applicants to colleges began selecting minorities to gain an edge for admission.

1. Does this mean I’m a racist because I won’t vote for Warren?

2. Aren’t there DNA tests that can establish racial ancestry?

    vance9281 in reply to gs. | April 27, 2012 at 10:29 pm

    In answer to gs, DNA tests are not enough. You have to satisfy the blood quantum requirements for the tribe. Some are 1/2, or 1/4, or 7/8. The Dawes Rolls showed members of the Five Civilized tribes and if you can trace a relationship to the rolls, you can be considered for enrollment in some tribes. it is possible to be 100% American Indian, but be mixed of various tribes – Navajo, Apache, Comanche, e.g., – and not qualify for enrollment in any of the tribes you are descended from. BTW, there are about 565 recognized tribes in the BIA rolls but some tribes are recognized by states and not the federal government. Each tribe has their own membership rules.

      Thanks for the response, vance. I meant it might be possible to check whether she has Indian blood, that’s all.

        ThomasD in reply to gs. | April 28, 2012 at 10:23 pm

        GS, there is no scientifically valid genetic test for any race because there are no specific genes that definitively determine race.

        Race is a social construct.

So, she is a white-native-American or what?

[…] Plus, I, for one, salute Harvard Law School for having the courage to hire Professor Dances-With-Occupiers… […]

Every 3rd person I’ve met in the Midwest claims they are “part Cherokee.” It’s so ubiquitous I don’t even react anymore. That has to be one prolific tribe.

Malonth said: Unlike in Nazi Germany, the government does not issue us with papers saying what race we are.

Yet.

…white native American…

We’re getting there …check out how many different versions of “Hispanic” there are HERE.

How many of all y’all knew about “Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander Hispanic?” Say hey, it is a category now, y’all best learn up until they really do issue us all racial & ethnic identity papers. You’ll need them to vote, by the way, ….

Regarding Elizabeth Warren’s claim of Cherokee heritage — she may have a more complex racial history than she realizes. I would like to direct your attention to a History Channel video discussing anomalies with the DNA of the Cherokee nation as compared with other Native American groups.

It turns out, the Cherokee may have Jewish ancestors. I forget, is being Jewish bad or good in the progressive playbook? Does she get double credit or does Jewish negate the Indian, when it comes to preferential treatment. I keep losing track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHNRf9H7nD4

Harvard and Warren making a big deal of her “Native American” background shows that for the Lefties today, the content of one’s character is nothing, the color of one’s skin is everything.

Wasn’t this an episode of All in the Family?

Focus on what she is, namely a progressive socialist who wants the power to control the rest of us peons.

Warren is a bona fide member of the Wanabe Tribe.
Fact.

Cherokee, schmerokee.

It’s Warren’s neo-bolshevik heritage that disturbs me.

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