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Democrats trapped by their seething hatred of Tea Party

Democrats trapped by their seething hatred of Tea Party

The media narrative is wrong, Obama is the one with no way out.

A comment by Chuck Schumer yesterday over Senate Democrats’ refusal to pass House funding bills for the NIH’s clinical trials for children with cancer, and similar House bills for veterans and national parks, pretty much sums up how Democrats’ seething hatred of the Tea Party movement has clouded Democrats’ thinking and ability to govern (via John McCormack at The Weekly Standard)(emphasis added):

As Politico reported Thursday, during the 1995 government shutdown congressional Republicans and President Bill Clinton were able to agree to a “stopgap bill to assure funding for veterans, welfare recipients and the District of Columbia.”

Why won’t Senate Democrats and President Obama agree now to any more stopgap funding bills?

Senator Chuck Schumer of New York told THE WEEKLY STANDARD following a noon press conference Thursday that in 1995 “it was a different world.” Why is that? “Because we have a Tea Party,” Schumer said without elaborating as he walked away.

We have seen similar irrational conduct by every senior Democrat, from Obama on down to Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, and so on.

Anyone who thinks this is a reaction to the current funding dispute is ignorant of history.

Nancy Pelosi wrote an Op-Ed for USA Today over the summer calling Tea Party anti-Obamacare protesters “Un-American.” That wasn’t the summer of 2013, it was the summer of 2009, August 11 to be precise.  That summer Pelosi also derided the Tea Party as Astroturf and just a puppet.

Chuck Schumer’s hatred of the Tea Party long predates the current funding crisis.  In November 2011, Schumer stopped Mike Lee from meeting with Tea Party supporters in the Capitol, sending security to remove them as the meeting was getting started.

Since the start of the Tea Party movement in the late winter and early spring of 2009, Democrats have been demonizing the movement in the most crude terms. Every time there is a public act of violence, the immediate response is to look for a Tea Party connection, which never is found.

It’s not surprising that in the past couple of weeks we have heard Democratic Party eliminationist rhetoric become even more shrill and hateful:

1. “Unhinged” Arsonists (Wasserman-Schultz)
2. Insane People Who “Have Lost their Minds” (Harry Reid)
3. “People with a Bomb Strapped to their Chest” (aka Terrorists)(Dan Pfeiffer)
4. Blatant Extortionists (Jay Carney)
5. “Legislative Arsonists” (Nancy Pelosi)

This hatred has forced Democrats into a destructive non-negotiation position.  Having framed the opposition as terrorists and suicide-bombers, Democrats have created a negotiation analogy from which it is hard to back down.

Democrats now will not even support funding they support, even for kids with cancer, because that would be giving in to what they perceive as terrorism.

Obama is part and parcel — and perhaps the driving force — behind this non-negotiation strategy.  He even used the analogy yesterday of Republicans holding a gun to the country’s head, an analogy he has used before.

The popular wisdom in the media and among some Republicans, is that Republicans are trapped.

Just the opposite is true.

Obama and the Democrats are trapped by their hatred of the Tea Party.

Republicans in the House and most in the Senate have been flexible, floating various bills and alternatives which give everybody something — e.g. full funding of Obamacare with modification of two unpopular provisions (the preferences given to Congress and businesses over ordinary citizens).

That outcome would not be viewed as a victory for Republicans, who really want to defund Obamacare; many would view it as a loss. But it’s a middle ground which could have provided a face saving out for everyone. It would have shown flexibility by Obama to make Obamacare better than it currently is, while Republicans would have had to defer at least until the next election the ultimate goal. It would have maintained a better status quo than we currently have.

But because Obama was in no-negotiation-with-terrorists mode, less than all was viewed as an unacceptable loss.

The demonization of the Tea Party leaves Obama no choice but to predict default on national debt, a threat he know does not have to be realized under any scenario other than by design, and to try to talk down the markets to pressure the purported-terrorists into capitulating.

Victory or collapse is not a good place to be in for a President of the United States.  It becomes a disastrous self-fulfilling prophecy.

When a political opponent paints himself into a corner, that’s often a good thing. But not when that person is the President of the United States.

I’m worried. 

I don’t know how Obama steps the country down from the no-negotiation ledge on which he is trapped.

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Comments

I don’t believe it’s a trap….I believe it’s a plan.

    janitor in reply to Joy. | October 4, 2013 at 10:27 am

    Mark Levin seems to agree, saying that it’s a plan to plunge the country into a full-blown “economic shutdown” and constitutional crisis in order the the President to basically take dictatorship powers, unilaterally raise the debt ceiling, and bypass Congress altogether.

    I hope to hell not, because any liberal supporting this is advocating for the destruction of the system of law in this country.

    If it’s true, however, the people, the major media, and the Democrats in Congress need to come to their senses, wake up from this psyychosis, and prepare to impeach.

      The Make Believe Media is too heavily invested at this point; they have to ride the HopeyChange Express all the way till it hits the wall.

      A_Nonny_Mouse in reply to janitor. | October 4, 2013 at 11:56 pm

      So, the ol’ Cloward-Piven Strategy isn’t working fast enough and the totalitarians are trying to goose the process?

      ConradCA in reply to janitor. | October 5, 2013 at 2:43 pm

      Anyone supporting Tyrant Obama is already supporting the “destruction of the system of law in this country”. Just consider the numerous violations of our laws and constitution by the Tyrant.

Narcissists make lousy negotiation parties.

They cannot allow as how they could be mistaken in a position they’ve taken, or how their opponent could have a valid position (since they are an opponent).

They are defending terribly fragile egos, just beneath the veneer…often fragile for very good reasons.

    Same Same in reply to Ragspierre. | October 4, 2013 at 10:29 am

    Reid is doing all the negotiation. Obama is looking even less in charge, even less presidential — if such a thing is possible.

    And the longer this goes on the nastier Reid looks and the more out of his depth Obama looks.

legacyrepublican | October 4, 2013 at 9:27 am

So what does he mean?

Is Reid arguing that the tea party needs to be hauled away, put in concentration camps, eliminated?

    average josephine in reply to legacyrepublican. | October 4, 2013 at 9:45 am

    I’m getting a bit worried that we’re going to have another Floyd Corkins moment, soon.

      their rhetoric is certainly encouraging anyone with a loose screw to go there. and of course this is after they were so apoplectic about palin’s ‘target map’ which supposedly led to the giffords shooting (by a democrat). as always, they project and their hypocrisy is mind-boggling.

average josephine | October 4, 2013 at 9:34 am

Clearly, the Democrats are being held hostage by their extremist, anti-tea-party faction.

The Tea Party will be on the good side of History. They will look back at this President and his democratic congress as the fools on the hill that they are.

    SafeTea in reply to wendybar. | October 4, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    I don’t think they’ll go down in history as fools at all, but as Communist infiltrators who successfully took down America.

    The “successful” part is still up in the air, of course, but it sure isn’t looking good.

Is it possible scenario for Martial Law?

The demonization of the Tea Party leaves Obama no choice but to predict default on national debt..

he could choose to
bypass congress and unilaterally breaching the debt ceiling

    Musson in reply to gettimothy. | October 4, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    Until 1972 – the Treasury printed UNITED STATES NOTES which was money backed by the US and not the Federal Reserve.
    They could do that again if they wished.

O has no fear of the potential need to negotiate about this, because a default would be catastrophic for America. O and his advisors are convinced that the House will do what is in the best interests of this country and capitulate before that happens. Simple. Who is really holding a gun to who’s head?

Quote:
Again, Mr. Obama has vowed not to negotiate, saying the consequences of default would be so severe the matter can’t be held hostage to political negotiations. “There will be no negotiations over this,” he said Thursday.

Said a senior administration official: “We are winning…It doesn’t really matter to us” how long the shutdown lasts “because what matters is the end result.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/senior-admin-official-we-are-winningit-doesnt-really-matter-us-when-shutdown-ends_759185.html

    Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to DriveBy. | October 4, 2013 at 11:30 am

    Default would do nothing.

    When you are the world’s largest debtor, you own the banks and you own the creditors……….

Obama is not going to step down off the ledge. He’s going to jump, take the economy with him, and blame the GOP for pushing them over the ledge.

That’s how it always works. This time, it won’t.

On the upside: It looks like Obama has found a red line he likes.

You’ll notice the common trait in those that are openly hostile to the “tea party”.

Hostile to the U.S. Constitution? Check

Hostile to individual liberty? Check

Hostile to Christianity? Check

Hostile to the sanctity of life? Check

Peddlers of (actual) hate, division, and deception? Check

The root of the tea party movement is not political. It is spiritual. As in, the spirit of every one of God’s creations to live free of tyranny. Try as they might, this spirit to live free has never been quashed in the history of man.

That same spirit lives in the soul of those that peddle tyranny, as they are quite certain they will never live under the tyranny they impose on others.

This current political class in America has about the same chance of wiping clean the tea party movement as the Romans did of wiping clean Christianity.

    Wish I could give your comment more than 1 thumbs up.

    Every sitting Democrat has taken the Article VI oath to “this Constitution.” I wish more Americans were paying attention because we are witness to the abject character of these people and the fidelity to the oath.

    Difficult times reveal character.

    Your last point really hits the nail on the head, and underlying that point is another fact… that the Republican establishment also hates the Tea Party. For the first time in a long time (certainly my adult life), the DC Establishment is being challenged and they are reacting like the rabid, cornered rats that they are.

    Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to Browndog. | October 4, 2013 at 11:37 am

    Did you see all those New York Times editorial calls for Dictatorship in the past year?

    I stay away for it as much as possible but almost every time I have clicked a connected link to it, there were calls for an Obama Dictatorship and Government Bail-outs of the Newspaper Industry.

If Obama persists with his silly bluffs, government bond issues may be difficult to sell in the future whenever a Democratic is president. Investors, who are presumably a bit sharper than the members of the press, will certainly notice that they only hear talk of default when the Democrats hold the White House. The obvious conclusion will be that short-term bonds, at least, will be safe, but only when they’re offered by Republican administrations.

    Since the Federal Reserve is literally buying ALL of the bonds that are issued, there is no need to fear that someone won’t buy the bonds much less drive interest rates up. The bond rates are precisely artifically low due to the Federal Reserve’s actions. I draw your attention to them buying $85 billion a month, which coincidentally adds up to the amount of the annual federal budget deficit spending, a smigeon over $1 trillion a year.

    That is why a change is necessary in federal spending, it is unsustainable and the Democrats are unwilling to reduce it. Nancy Pelosi has flat out said there is nothing to cut. Everyone who decries the partial shutdown has missed the bigger point of the issues before them. It is an admission of their cluelessness. If you are not willing to force discipline on a spendthrift Congress and President, then we will become Greece, Italy, Spain and Cypress all rolled up into one and then the final insult will be becoming Zimbabwe. The Zeroing out of ObamaCare is only the beginning of the hard solutions before the country. The MSM and Democrats are basically using ObamaCare as a means to mask the coming insolvency of the government and to justify the continued digitized printing of money, FOREVER.

    There will be no wheelbarrows full of paper currency to dramatize our plight or $1 billion dollar notes, just USB sticks with a file that has a one with lots and lots of zeros behind it. We are so much more sophisticated than the Germans, Argentines, Mexicans and Zimbabwians, we do it the green way on computers.

The dim’s will always tell you whom they fear the most. This is classic Alinsky. Isolate, polarize, ridicule… They know the only way they can slow the freight train down is through the suppression of the organizations. They aren’t scare. They’re terrified. Thus, the vitriol. The only way to beat a bully is to punch them back harder than they punch you. So far, we’ve only got a handful of folks in DC willing to punch back.

    Paul in reply to texan59. | October 4, 2013 at 11:24 am

    How long before it starts in the coffee houses, bars and on the streets? Do the proggie sycophants support him that much?

    Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to texan59. | October 4, 2013 at 11:41 am

    Texan59, you said it!

    “They’re terrified.”

    In fact they’re sc…sc…sc…oh scared sh… sh…sh…
    Oh Shucks!

    WITLESS!

The more I think about this shutdown the more I like where it could take the house in terms of power. If they win this battle regardless of cost they could be on the way to winning the war against runway spending. If all spending is broken up into many small appropriation bills and sent to the senate the house and president would now have line item veto over spending. Any spending would have to have long term bipartisan and presidential support to survive several election cycles.

    “If” they win. The House has held steady so far, but I doubt it will continue. There is already grumbling and talk of a deal before the debt ceiling fight. The House will cave as it has each time before. Apparently our side isn’t very adept at the game of chicken.

      HarrietHT in reply to MAB. | October 4, 2013 at 1:12 pm

      I can’t imagine being pummeled on every side, by the Democrats, the media, and one’s own Party’s ruling elite and then having to endure — when you finally DO stand your ground — the slings and arrows of your supposed Tea Party supporters, carping in your ear that you’ll cave. Alas is the nature of the heat inflicted on Speaker Boehner.

      Stand strong, Boehner. More of us out here in Tea Party country have your back than don’t. We must prevail or the Republican Party will have made itself PERMANENTLY irrelevant and will be superseded by a third party.

      This dictatorial regime must be brought to heel. They hate the Tea Party because it’s the ONLY block to their power grab.

        princepsCO in reply to HarrietHT. | October 4, 2013 at 5:48 pm

        HarrietHT: your comment, “Stand strong, Boehner. More of us out here in Tea Party country have your back than don’t,” would have more revelance if Boehner were a conservative. However, as a member of the Permanent Ruling Class, Crying John regularly swings progressive with the right incentives. I can easily see him pushing through amnesty for illegals, fully funding the ACA, and guarding Obama’s back more than I see him protecting the Constitution and rule of law.

>>”I’m worried. I don’t know how Obama steps the country down from the no-negotiation ledge on which he is trapped.”

He intends to exploit that worry (which he generalizes across the country) and go all-in. Because he’s heartless and ruthless. He may in some way feel cornered but he also feels supremely empowered, for he has the media. And the media is going-in with him.

The media is the X factor, always has been. As Breitbart often said, the media is the sine qua non of the political Left right now in America.

The Right still does not realize this or know how to fight or flummox or neutralize the media — not as a strategy. So it will come down to the Right vs. the media and the issue of perceptions or “optics.” Who would you put the odds on?

The Republicans have the ultimate power of being right on the inequity of Obama’s and the democrat’s special treatment and exemptions on Obamacare — but do they know how to exploit and demagogue the issue? I’ve not heard this issue even mentioned by a prominent Republican in days. Why? Fear that they’ll be blamed for being the ones dividing the country and derailing the negotiations?

Obama has every reason to be confident that Republicans will cave. Yet Republicans could use this confidence as one more leverage point, to execute one of the most devastating public defeats of a President ever. But this potential scares them; they don’t want the responsibility or the risk.

It’s a terrible point we’re at; there’s good reason to worry.

No Wonder the Progressives-Libs-Democrats are so terrified of the Tea Party. The core principles of the Tea Party are:
o Fiscally Responsible Government
o Constitutional Government
o Government Climate Enabling Free Enterprise.

That is a set of objectives totally reprehensible to Obama, Schumer, Pelosi and all the rest of the Progressive crowd–including the Lame-Stream-Media. So they are following the play book and demonizing the force they most fear. I think they are actually on the run and know that 2014 is looming ominously threatening for them.

Maybe if Obama got his nose out of the air he could see straight. Right now he’s acting like a slave owner proudly reviewing his vast plantation.

If the markets start selling off, then I’m buying because the market will come back regardless of BO and his fear mongering. Capitalism keeps going like the Eveready bunny.

You can’t kill the (now) minority of Americans who still have free market-capitalism – hard work, invention, investing, wealth creation, charity, human flourishing – in their blood.

BO, the Titanic, will sink at the end of his iceberg term (or before) but the markets will go on. (I feel a song coming on.)

Henry Hawkins | October 4, 2013 at 10:42 am

Obamacare (and Porkulus) sparked the Tea Party in the first place, leading to the 2010 midterm disaster for the Democrats. Now, with the 2014 midterms barely a year away, the Obamacare roll out is crashing and burning in front of the entire country, coupled with multiple ongoing scandals, and the Tea Party is awakening yet again. The Democrat Party sees the specter of losing the Senate and an even greater GOP majority in the House. This shuts down their party for the duration and sets up reversals of all they’ve ‘achieved’ during the Obama/Reid/Pelosi regime.

Though it is expressed as hatred and anger, at the core of every Democrat politician is bone-chilling existential fear.

Only the desperate resort to name calling and vilification when they know themselves not to have any other persuasive arguments. The MSM and Democrats have all but admitted they have no power other than the fear of negative perception by the GOP. The GOP has only one opponent, the perception of itself. After forcing ObamaCare down the throats of an unwilling population, what really did Obama suffer? He got re-elected through the short memories of the voter.

Honestly, GOP leaders there is more than a year to the elections of 2014, do you seriously believe the voters of Blue States are going to vote differently because you stopped ObamaCare in it’s tracks?

Do you seriously believe that the MSM pinning the blame on you is really going to change any outcome a year from now?

IF the murder of Brian Terry and 300 Mexicans due to Obama and Holders incompetence in Fast & Furious didn’t change the outcome of the 2012 elections what makes you think the voters will hold you accountable in 2014 for a government shutdown the year prior?

IF the preventable murders of 4 American heros in Benghazi due to the blazing incompetence of President Obama and then Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta were not a significant factor in the 2012 elections, why would a fight over the Debt Ceiling be any different in outcome in 2014?

The MSM is always going to negatively portray the GOP, get over it and do your jobs. Pass the 12 or 13 appropriation bills as per Law and then go home. Quite frankly, you have the chance here to change the entire trajectory of federal spending. Send up the appropriation bill for the EPA based on 2006 spending levels, let Harry Reid REFUSE to go to conference on it and then ZERO out the EPA and publicly announce it. Let them know you are to be taken seriously like a heart attack or Val Putin. Then send up the Department of Education and Homeland Security bills shortly thereafter. ZERO them out too if they refuse to go to conference. Honestly, GOP leadership, the Dems don’t respect you because they don’t fear you. What have you truly ever gained by trying to get liberals to like you? NOTHING so why keep failing at it?

Midwest Rhino | October 4, 2013 at 10:54 am

So far few blame mostly Democrats like Reid (8%), whereas about 24% blamed mostly Republicans like Cruz (I think), and 23% blamed mostly Obama. (numbers just from memory)

When the polls start to blame Democrats for not negotiating, and refusing to pass “piecemeal” budgeting, they will have to back down. Reid lies over and over, saying budgets are never done piece by piece. But that is how a budget has been and should be done. Quit hiding behind these “omnibus” bills full of pork and unpopular spending.

Even a CNN reporter asked Reid about “saving just one child” and she was denounced as stupid, as Reid launched into another tirade, unable to give a reasoned response. The reporter stayed calm, not convinced.

If more bills are sent to the senate that would fund the things Americans want funded, it will be clearer that the House is doing their job using the power of the purse. Democrats have already recognized that their only defense is to inspire hate, using nastiness and lies, as their nature is.

The truth will emerge if the spotlight stays on the story. The Democrat game of playing the news cycle doesn’t work if the story doesn’t go away. How does “we will not negotiate, shut it all down” square with “separation of powers”?

If the Democrats refuse to fund every other part of government, just to keep Obamacare exemptions for big business and congress, they could lose the Senate in 2014. Right now the House holds the purse, and Democrats are the screaming kid demanding the candy bar at the checkout. Obama is the Deadbeat Dad on the phone saying, give my crying boy the candy bar, or I’ll burn down the house.

[…] I guess these veterans and kids with cancer are just collateral damage because of the Democrats fixation on the Tea Party. […]

Not A Member of Any Organized Political | October 4, 2013 at 11:16 am

Over at the big pink (Hillaryis44 org web site) they sure think the whole stink is BarryCade!

“The Obama publicity stunt is over and Obama will not negotiate with American leaders duly elected by Americans.

Far from demonstrating strength this latest Obama publicity stunt shows that Obama is worried about the appearance of not negotiating.

The hope is the public will not notice Obama’s total failure of leadership.

Tomorrow we will see if the latest Obama ploy to nudge Wall Street into a panic will work. We doubt it will.” (NOTE: It didn’t work.)

http://www.hillaryis44.org/2013/10/02/hillary-clinton-movie-shutdown-the-government-shutdown-obamacare-shutdown-obama-strategy-shutdown/

    From Larry Johnson at No Quarter:

    “Obama is spending your taxpayer dollars to post a guard at a monument [Lincoln Memorial] that normally is open 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and does not require any kind of controlled access. To now set up barricades to prevent people from visiting these public sites is beyond petty. This is outrageous. It is one thing to close the American History museum at the Smithsonian, which is a building you must enter and houses artifacts that, if not closely guarded, could be stolen. But that’s not the case for the Lincoln Memorial or the Vietnam Memorial or the Jefferson Memorial or the WW II and Korean War memorials. This is just pure vindictive chickenshit on the part of Obama and his group of thugs.”

    Is Michelle Obama still traipsing around with her third-world-dictator’s-wifelike entourage?

      Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to janitor. | October 4, 2013 at 1:25 pm

      It is actually a violation of the “right to free assembly!”

      Time to Sue Barry-Cadie and his Demo-Rats out of existence!

      platypus in reply to janitor. | October 5, 2013 at 8:13 am

      Now we know why green paint was splashed on the statue. It is the backup pretext for having a guard. Trust me, this one has David Axelgrease smeared all over it.

    Time to fly more banners over the highway: “Honk if you hate Obamacare!”

Good! If the Tea Party isn’t making steam come out of Democrats ears then they’re not doing their job.

I believe this administration will declare martial law over the entire country at the slightest provocation. I believe it is only a matter of time before they suspend the constitution and deploy troops to every major city.

I notice that Fox is now reporting of potential anti-incumbent back lash.

GOP will hold the house, Dems will lose the Senate.

It won’t be pretty but the result will be better.

MaggotAtBroadAndWall | October 4, 2013 at 11:38 am

It would be a big public service if this post were to run as an op-ed in USA Today or WaPo.

I tend to think they detest individual liberty and freedom. It is a totalitarian mindset, and they intend to win.

The individual mandate fundamentally transforms the relationship of citizen and government, flipping the whole scheme of American freedom upside down. The hate that exists now is not unlike the hate that propelled Obama into the White House from the start, against the self-interest of most of those who voted for him.

Their promotion of hate creates a climate of cloudy judgment.

It is useful in other contexts too; like making young folks think that elimination of the tolling of the statute of limitations on student loans (and only student loans) is somehow a good thing for them. (20 USC § 1091a) See In Re Lewis in Ninth Cir. also about shifting goal posts in favor of government (Contract Clause only applies to states). The same can happen in the future for all the gloriously huge mortgage debt “purchased” for free by the Federal Reserve. They can and likely will terminate the state prohibitions on anti-deficiency judgments and the like, and anything that prevents collection (or perpetual debt slavery) – so as to save the Federal Reserve and they’re collective grip on power over the individual.

Nothing is free, and be even more wary of “bipartisanship.”

NC Mountain Girl | October 4, 2013 at 12:33 pm

The optics on this have been bad for the Democrats since the beginning. Once Obama steps away from the camera the leadership of the Democrat party is old and looks ancient. The Republican insurgents like Cruz and Lee are young. Reid is particularly non photogenic.

Screwing with the National Parks and Monuments was a huge mistake. The national media isn’t covering it much but local media will. Those privately owned concessions on leased federal land are huge local economic engines. The hikers who find the parking lots at the trail heads closed are agog. There seems to be more manpower employed to keep them out of the parks during the shutdown that ever saw patrolling the parks on all prior trips combined.

    BannedbytheGuardian in reply to NC Mountain Girl. | October 4, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    Yes except for some who leave litter hikers require no rangers. The trail does not cross many areas used by the regular public visitors.

    I never saw a ranger but did see a litter notice about the dreaded baby wipes being non bio degrade able. Baby wipes are the biggest problem & it is more the short term walkers that use them .

    A volunteer litter patrol would suffice.

    I can’t believe Americans are accepting this.

Today the WWII Monument has wire reinforcing the barrycade. I wonder when that will be in the news? They want to inflict the maximum pain – it may backfire.

Democrat recalcitrance is not entirely irrational.

Not if you consider their worst fear – the dog that did not bark.

A shutdown/slowdown begins to impact the public. Initially through direct Executive effort, but eventually it does cut into things the public really is in favor of providing.

The departments and people who provide those popular and/or desired things are then free to ‘bark’ loudly about the need to finance them.

The people who cannot bark are the contractors, cronies, clingers, and leeches who know that if the public truly knew what they were paying for would man the torches and pitchforks.

They are the dogs that do not bark.

At least not publicly. Oh to be sure they bark privately to their bought and paid for President and Congresscritters, but in this environment no one can pay them heed (or pay them anything else.)

The Democrats, and RINOs fear a piecemeal approach that, with everything spelled out, will be the end of the gravy train.

We need to get back to the old appropriations process – the more bills the better.

No more grand packages, no more CR’s.

I understand your worry, Professor. I’m not sure how he gets out of this either . . . maybe he should give Putin a call. Or let Kerry babble something at the press that he can then latch on to as his “solution”?

Excellent analysis.

How the Nazis got ordinary German citizens to become genocidal maniacs and/or tolerate genocide of the Jews, and how Mao and his gang manipulated ordinary Chinese youths into becoming genocidal maniacs are lessons that have not been lost on the left.

Very ordinary people in America, and many educated people in America have been completely brainwashed to hate, and in addition, to rationalize the outrageous unconstitutional acts of Obama and is gang. And brainwashing it is.

There is only one way out of this: WE have to be tougher, and more in-your-face than they are. We have to be intractable.

The average Obama zombie is weak and dependent, and will fold in the face of our push-back. The more educated zombies are weak in that they will never,ever fight in the streets.

It has to be ‘our time.’ We have to be Ted Cruz, not George Bush.

Excellent analysis indeed, Professor Jacobson. I also think that the “delay” Obamacare effort may be politically more palatable than the “defund” movement, though Dems seem to think they’re going to have the same political effect on Republicans. This early on in the shutdown, we’ve already seen Obama’s Gallup job approval rating drop to its lowest level in two years and his disapproval rating rise to a significant 52%. The flap over his mean-spirited closing of the memorials may hurt him even more.

I like to think of these as his “Gingrich moments.” He can’t conceal his hatred and vitriol, and it’s reminiscent of Gingrich’s statement in the ’96 shutdown that he felt slighted on Air Force One. The public saw the shutdown as vindictiveness and revenge, and Republicans paid a price. If the public sees Obama’s unwillingness to negotiate and his strong-arm tactics at the memorials as vindictiveness, they may punish him too.

The president’s hatred of the Tea Party has blinded him to the traditions of the presidency and the need for leadership. And that’s not just bad for the Democrats. It’s bad for America.

    platypus in reply to jlayne. | October 5, 2013 at 8:28 am

    I still want to know who is on the other end of Jugears’ Blackberry – the one that prompted a squabble with the Secret Service. I do not believe this fool in the Oval office is running the show any more than I believe in man-made global warming. Be that as it may, I do not believe the record shows the Newt-led GOP paying a price. The press may have wished it to be so but the media wish for lots of things (tea party is dead, etc.).

The Republicans should embrace the shutdown as a way to restore fiscal sanity. They should pass bills to restore essential “nonessential” functions of government and promise to never fund back pay for those laid off “nonessential” government employees.

I would love to see the next negotiation include a clean CR with one condition – Obamacare as it was passed, taking away the waivers, the 1 year deferment of the employer mandate, etc. Let the dems vote that down and show everyone how twisted they are. And if it passes, then everyone will find out immediately how rotten it is.

RReaganConservative | October 6, 2013 at 6:18 pm

This is what happens the govt is run by ideological zealots like Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Schummer, Durbin, etc, aka liberal fascists, for which their favorite political tactic to use is Projectionism- The incendiary false accusations against their political opposition, and any other of their intended targeted victims, accusing us of what they themselves are guilty of. Hitler perfected this tactic against the Jews, and liberal fascists today, aka Obamacrats use it with absolute intense fervor. This is used with in conjunction with their standard Marxist Alinsky-ite tactics of denigration, polarization, demonization, labeling, race and class warfare, etc. Why, because it works.

Does this current situation claim an aberrational event in US history, or does this foretell of an ongoing historical event and consequence struggle in man’s human existence of power and control over people, and of of the people who want to be and remain free, who then fight to be the tyranny that seeks to oppress and subjugate them forever.

No to the former, and yes it does to the latter assessment of the current political situation with Obama and his loyal rank and file sycophant soldiers, aka Democrats, and their end goal agenda of fundamentally transforming America from a US Constitutional Republic by collapsing the current govt Constitutional system, and our Free Market Economy system construct, into a centralized all powerful unlimited authoritarian govt construct based on Socialist Marxism

If we are save the very Freedoms and Liberties that the Founding father’s fought and died for us, handed down to us, then we fight for it unconditionally committed, or forever lose it forever.

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“I do not believe in a fate that will fall on us no matter what we do. I do believe in a fate that will fall on us if we do nothing.”

“Let us be sure that those who come after will say… we did everything that could be done.

You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children’s children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.

Freedom … must be fought for, protected, and handed on for [our children] to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children, what it was once like where men were free.  

We’re at war with the most dangerous enemy that has ever faced mankind … and … if we lose that war, and in so doing lose this way of freedom of ours, history will record … that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent its happening.”

~US President Ronald Wilson Reagan~