This is going to be a painful night to sit through.
We will have to sit through 20 or so minutes of Liz Warren giving her standard lashing of business and Republicans, playing the holier than thou card. There are few prominent politicians less deserving of such a role. Some late entries on Warren:
- Michael Patrick Leahy – DNC Pins Hopes On Shredded Credibility of Elizabeth Warren
- Harvard Law group whose blog previously was shut down by law school copyright threats to WordPress.com gives Warren a rather dubious award.
As for Bubba, I voted “9” in the poll as to how strongly he will support Obama. I may have been overly cautious. I expect Obama to join him on stage and raise their hands together in unity.
As soon as Clinton is done I’ll post the same poll again, again assessing how strongly Clinton supported Obama.
Update — Warren’s speech was flat, didn’t come across well on television, she wasn’t on her game. Kept talking about people rigging system. No rock star status tonight.
Update No. 2 — Here is the Reader Poll. I changed the wording slightly since it’s after the fact, and there is no doubt Clinton strongly supported Obama. I was right, Obama joined Clinton on stage.
The Question now is how effective Clinton was in supporting Obama. Poll open until 2 p.m. Eastern on Thursday.
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Heartbreak — Sandra Fluke was skipped over in tonight’s program
So… I’m guessing they figured it was a bad idea to make this convention about Sandra Fluke’s uterus?
SANDRA FLUKE ABORTED
They put her back in. (real bad imagery)
Bad idea?
Sounds good to dems–
I thought I heard that ….voice…from the other room
Good timing having Fluke on during HT. At first I thought she was taking about the horror of Barack Obama when she described a president standing by as public figures savaged those private individuals speaking out. But then she said Paul Ryan wants to kill women. Or something like that.
Oh well, back to the game.
Woodard’s Beta Barack sure does not sound like the Barack Obama everyone is praising at the DNC. He sounds rather like Clint Eastwood’s Barack Obama!
Huh! You think 20 minutes is painful?
I watched everyone last night and am doing it again tonight and tomorrow.
Pray for me to survive……I’m not that tough anymore.
“Convention-goers who left the Time Warner Cable Arena are now unable to get back in, because the hall is at capacity — 24,000 people. A huge crowd has gathered outside the arena doors, where fire marshals are turning people away.”
I just this morning listened to Ball-less Bill speak.
I gave him a 3 on effectiveness.
One of my favorite segments was his lament that Republican incumbents had been voted out of office by us conservative “extreeeeeemists”.
I noted, too, that the audience response got progressively (heh!) less enthusiastic as he drone on, and on, and on.
“No sale” to the American people.
Well, at least the DNC took pity on you and reinstated G-d and J-r-s-l-m back into their platform.
And embarrassed the holy h**l out of themselves doing it.
And you think it was for whose benefit?
They took pity on themselves (imagine that) after they watched the polling numbers slide. Sorry, it’s out there and it’s who they are.
or is it, who you are?
Clinton is supportive of Obama-
well, depending on what the meaning of the word “is” is..
Let me know if he bites his lip, and feels our pain–I’ll be watching football….or a commercial….or a fly on the window.
Browndog, I imagine Clinton’s speech is going to be fascinating.
He really hates Obama, but can’t desert him either.
And doesn’t want Hills tied to a loser.
He’s in a tight spot.
I’m not sure it’s a tight spot. He’s got nothing to lose by giving a rousing speech. He knows Obama is going down, and he’ll have done his job and no one can hold it against him.
I voted “10.”
I guess you’re right Raven, not really a tight spot.
But he sure ain’t gonna enjoy it, 🙂
Right…did anyone but me have a moment of Deja Vu when he said something like, “Listen to me, listen to me…no one, no President, not even I could have brought this country back in 4 years”.
I thought he was going to say, “listen to me, listen to me…I-did-not-have-sex with that woman!”
Clinton will speak the right words, but that’s all they will be…words, just words.
Clinton’s real mission is to scan the delegates for some *hot* *hot* *hot* babes who need some ‘ministering to’ tonight …. know what I mean?
Ewwww. Elizabeth Warren an her nasal voice, full of bs.
What little I caught of her, she didn’t have the gravitas that Clinton or Obama have. I think even Pelosi is better, and that really puts Liz in the basement.
I was going to say she was “bush league” but that would be to belittle the Bushs, all of whom are better.
And THIS is who they want to replace Scott Brown???? She won’t even meet with the DEMOCRAT Indian delegation after being caught lying about her “Cherokee” heritage.
And she thinks corporations are not people. Well she must be angry with the brick and mortar buildings which now stand empty, thanks to Obama Administration policies.
Liz Warren is speaking right now. She went over her childhood. No mention about being a Native-American. Too busy lying about Republicans.
I was hoping Liz Warren was going to show up in war paint.
Well, she was a couple feathers short of a headress, if that helps!
She switched sides tonight. Tonight she was one of the missionaries. She even quoted the Bible.
The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
Democrats are the party that loves women?
Do mothers really want to abort babies in the ninth month?
Do women really support womanizer/abusers Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton? These guys are the Dem’s heroes, not just in the party.
Then there is rising star Elizabeth Warren, committing ethnic fraud, questionable scholarly works. She pushes the Lakoff Marxist pap that your long hours and smart decisions have nothing to do with your success, because you drive on the same highway as the less successful.
Clinton on … gag. “Obama is the uniter, the compromiser … Republicans are evil haters.” etc.
We really need both parties to stop holding conventions.
You got that right. Conventions are a waste of time and money!
Clinton has laid the groundwork for the Democrats to take credit for any growth under Romney. Everything in the last four years was Bush’s fault. If the job market improves under Romney, Obama will get credit because he laid the foundation, if it does not improve, Romney will be at fault because he destroyed what Obama had built. If Obama happens to get re-elected and the job market continues to tank, it will still be Bush’s fault. He’s given the media and his followers their talking points for the next four years and beyond. It will be repeated ad nauseam, because it’s all they know how to do.
Clinton made a speech for his own reelection. Going back to the Clinton years with the brilliant Newt Gingrich leading the House isn’t the choice we are facing but Clinton succeeded in creating that illusion. Obama is no Clinton.
Well, Michelle or Valerie would castrate him, for starters, if 0bama went all Bill 😉
The good thing about Clinton was that he knew when he was beat and knew how to make the best of it.
Obama’s hubris doesn’t let him do that. The pseudo-intellectual in him, with all its pretense, keeps him from accepting any responsibility for fault.
0bama has done one thing…he’s brought the term SCoaMF into the mainstream.
I was watching the 3rd quarter of the Giants Cowboys game. Too bad for the Giants. I do not like the Cowboys.
Nice dinner with some old friends in Astoria, Oregon (yes, New York we have one too). Fresh sturgeon fish and chips. Excellent. Nice sunset over the Pacific ocean at the mouth of the Columbia river.
Much better than watching that thing tonight and I don’t have to wash my eyeballs with acetone or take a shower.
The only fish better than Columbia River sturgeon is Columbia River spring chinook. Very nice.
I’m surprised they didn’t dig up Ted Kennedy’s corpse so Obama could embrace him in prime-time as well.
I feel very very optimistic now. All the GOP has to do is run ads in the heartland swing states with the Dems throwing God and Israel under the bus then changing it back again, then the boos.
Major screw-up. The teleprompter (shown on Hannity) even displayed the “two-thirds” majority announcement for the LA mayor to parrot when clearly it was fairly evenly divided on the vote. I hope the RNC and the GOP get out and educate the public that this is not “Your Fathers Democratic party”.
Between Fluke, Warren, and the platform modification and re-modification I don’t think even Bubba or “The One” with his teleprompter can save this cesspool of a political party.
Clinton spoke well for Obama, but everyone knows he did this for his party, not Obama. In the end, it was the same old BS it’s always been. He seduced the crowd just like he did Lewinsky, and after they wake up tomorrow morning they will realize that Bill did the same thing to them that he did to Monica. They won’t mind because it was Bill, but the effect will be fleeting.
Does everyone at the DNC need dry cleaning now?
Only those who cannot control their tongues – the media and a few others.
This all made me remember that press conference early in the B.O. presidency which Big Dog took over because the Obama have to go to some party of his wife or something. Once again daddy came in to help the incompetent — interestingly, in a way he couldn’t muster for Hillary.
Clinton is a masterful politician. No one denies that. But as good a speech as it was, he sloughed over a lot of facts, looked to me as if he was going to choke defending the deficit, and didn’t adequately address that “arithmetic”.
Ryan has his work cut out for him. But also, the Republican party — and Romney! — need to wise up now and give Gingrich the credit due during the Clinton years to counter this.
How “effective” was Clinton for Barry?
well, effective is a relative term. I voted for clinton both times as well as Hillary in 2008, now I consider myself a tea party fiscal indepedenent, did the speech work on me, a “bitter clinger” american as the dims and Barry like to call me? Not really.
I watched about 20 mins of the speech, a load of BS and got disgusted at Bill Clinton, lost of a lot of respect for him shilling for man like Barry. Did it convince this independent to vote for Soetero?
Not really. The only thing it did do is make me lose a lot of respect for Bill Clinton.
I am not a Cowboys fan, but they do have cheerleaders.
And Democrats boo God, and manage to piss off Jews and Arabs. And Bill Clinton reflects on the good old days…but I was busy watching the 3rd Quarter.
Clintoon spewed an absolutely horrid speech – more like a rant full of lies.
……and REALLY LONG-WINDED
Bill Clinton’s long, long speech about the meanie Republicans http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/bill-clintons-long-long-speech-about-the-meanie-republicans/2012/09/05/a999331c-f7ce-11e1-8398-0327ab83ab91_blog.html #DNC2012 #tcot
Never get between Clinton and an active camera.
I’m surprised they didn’t have to drag him off the stage.
Charles Krauthammer pointed out that all during Clinton’s very long speech, Obama had to stand backstage waiting. Maybe he dragged it out more just so Zippy could cool his heels. 😉
It was vintage Clinton but I don’t think it will have much impact. Remember, they called him in during the 2010 midterms to try and save some of their House and Senate seats. He campaigned against Scott Brown to no avail.
I think people do have a fondness for him but they know well two things:
He lies.
He’s very partisan.
So while they enjoy the show, they don’t give it much credence.
Talk about ‘pain night:’ did anyone hear how Hillary Clinton was humiliated by the Chi Coms today?
Nobody in the world takes this moron seriously:
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/hillary-snubbed-in-china-vp-cancels-meeting/288848-2.html
A fun parody of it:
http://thefinereport.com/2012/09/hillary-clinton-americas-loser/
Did anyone hear the Obama “Hope” graphic artist may be going to prison? (True story!)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/shepard-fairey-sentencing-report-683412
One thing lefty talking heads like Kirsten Powers are fond of citing is the stock market. This too is not real.
The market has risen on very low volume, few individual investors are participating in the way they used to. Institutional investors are driven to equities by the weakened dollar and low bond yields.
You can tell by the way the market is less affected by the mounting bad news on the economic front and more by any indication of further monetary loosening by FRB or ECB. If such occurs, it will drive more bond money into equities, creating what will in the end amount to just another bubble.
I’ve been struck at the level of discord at the DNC.
The Jerusalem issue could cost them Michigan if Muslim Democrats stay home.
I expected more discord from the RNC, but Team Romney is the one who has all it’s ducks in a row this election season.
It’s been over for a couple hours now.
Wasn’t very painful for me.
I ignored it.
Had a good dinner with a couple adult beverages.
I’m sure I’ll hear about it tomorrow.
Bill Clinton on September 5, 2012:
Barrack Obama on August 21, 2012:
Either Bill Clinton isn’t paying attention to what Barrack Obama is saying, or he’s telling us we shouldn’t vote for Obama.
I haven’t watched one minute of any of it from the day it started. I’d rather eat ground glass and crawl over hot coals than listen to those gawd-awful liars, thieves and corruptocrats.
After tonight, I’m pretty sure that the DNC mantra is this: keep repeating incorrect facts (e.g. 4.5 million jobs) over and over again. The more times you say it, the more ‘true’ it becomes.
Instead of watching I went to GOP Hq and spent several hours making a bunch of calls. Professor you were dead on about slick. I was a bonehead to think him anything but a party buttboy. A caller to Dennis Miller wed mentioned L.I. and your crusade on Lizzy.
Obama is running on every politician’s and previous President’s record but his own.
If you were watching the DNC livestream last night, you were probably greeted with:
Pain. You said it.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120904/22172920275/copyright-killbots-strike-again-official-dnc-livestream-taken-down-just-about-every-copyright-holder.shtml
I can see it now, in the event of a national emergency (like a nuclear war or such) these wandering killbots come in and cut off the civil defense broadcasts.
Id like to think voters understand two points:
Romney isnt running against Bill Clinton
Obama isnt running against G Bush
I gave him an 8. He had to do it but he wasn’t happy about it. OTOH, it got him in front of a mike again. It did get hm the adulation of the ignorant again.
Bill Clinton: “President Obama can’t run on his own record, so we’ve decided to lend him mine…”
there’s been no bounce for obama so far from his DNC convention/speech. …If this is telling obama has some serious problems and looks to be losing ground slowly to Romney. maybe it’s too soon to say tho… how long does it take for a president normally to get one from a convention?
…but also the timing was pretty poorly thought out… Most people I know were tuning into football. that takes priority over such… so it’s REALLY bad to hold a convention that day because virtually no one was watching cept for hardcore leftists.
I actually heard Clinton’s speech abd it sounded decent, but I don’t like that he defended 0bama… and couldn’t understand how he could in any way shape or form make any excuses for him …especially when he was caught saying while hilary was making her run for the presidency in 2008 ‘that 0bama wouldn’t even be good enough to carry his bags, let alone be president.’ …if clinton is as smart as they say… I would think he would see obama as a total failure and that he has to go in 2012. if anything, I’d also think he still would be inclined to sabotage Obama’s 2012 chances rather than help him. …at the going rate it would appear obama is set to slowly lose in november…
I saw something else… michael moore predicts Romney will win 2012 …mostly because of the huge funds he recieves. it seems the lefty base isn’t at all happy with the disappointment that obama has brought to the office… and that is slowly starting to show …bush tax cuts was one of the things the libs just were furious about… and obama extended them, and didn’t deliver on 99% of his promises so most libs may just stay home and not vote like in 2010. *l* which would be awesome…
nothing like seeing 0bama cring on election night and having to say the words: “I concede to romney.”
on a sidenote… there’s an awesome game you all should check out called X-com Enemy unknown, they show some of the gameplay on youtube at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VP4YmExQAE