Researcher: Trump supporters still want The Wall
Anne Sorock: In interviews, Trump supporters bring up the Wall, “there’s still a sense that that needs to happen”
Anne Sorock of The Frontier Lab started writing for Legal Insurrection in April 2012 and was a regular contributor for many years. Over time Anne focused more and more of her time at The Frontier Lab, and now writes for us only sporadically.
Anne uses “deep values” research rather than polling and superficial surveys.
In November 2016, just after Trump’s victory, I wrote about how Anne was the first person I’m aware of to predict a Trump victory … in February 2015, Research Guru saw Trump phenomenon coming before anyone else:
I saw Anne at CPAC 2015, and in the course of our discussions, I asked Anne who she liked among the many rumored presidential candidates. She said Donald Trump.
I was like, what is that all about? He’s never going to run, he always teases, and anyway, Trump? Seriously? She was serious. She said, look, he’s the one. She was insistent not only that Trump would run but that he’d win. It seemed totally incredible.
By that point I’d known Anne for a while, and considered her a friend. I could tell she wasn’t joking. That she knew something I didn’t. But it still seemed so other-worldly, that even after Trump took the famous escalator ride at Trump Tower to announce, I didn’t give it any credit.
That was then, this is now. President-elect Trump saw something in the mood of the nation, and captured that lightning in a bottle.
In that post, Anne explained in detail the research methodology which led her to conclude that Trump was likely to win when no one, and I mean no one, gave him a chance. I’ve been trying to get Anne to pick lottery numbers for me.
Anne was interviewed recently by Ginni thomas in The Daily Caller about the 2018 election cycle, Is The GOP In For A ‘Rude Awakening’ In 2018 Elections?
Speaking to Washington elites, Sorock says, American voters have totally rejected a minutiae, maneuvering and a piecemeal approach to stopping the decline of America. As an example, she said that voters aren’t asking for a tax cut, although that can be a part of it.
“They are asking for you [Congress] to say, through your work, that you love America and that you want it to survive,” Sorock said.
Sorock told The Daily Caller News Foundation that the perception of “one party rule” is the biggest threat facing the nation, as there seems to be little to distinguish the governing parties in voters’ minds. Unless the Republican Congress changes course fast, Sorock said, the 2018 midterm elections will be a “rude awakening” for the GOP….
As for those that are similarly interested in promoting freedom and constitutional government, she doubts whether conservative leaders really trust the average common man and woman. She challenged those comfortable in their “ivory towers” that are misunderstanding the erosion of values, labels, words and principles.
I found this part of particularly interest:
“What has come up [in interviews] is The Wall. There’s still a sense that that needs to happen.”
Here’s the video of the interview:
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“A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation.”
― Ronald Reagan
Reagan, during his June 14, 1984 press conference,
“But the simple truth is that we’ve lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive.”
John Cleese, “I’m not sure what’s going on in Britain. Or, let me say this – I don’t know what’s going on in London, because London is no longer an English city.
“That’s how we got the Olympics.
“They said we were the most cosmopolitan city on Earth. But it doesn’t feel English.
“I had a Californian friend come over two months ago, walk down the King’s Road and say, ‘Where are all the English people?’
“I mean, I love having different cultures around. But when the parent culture kind of dissipates, you’re left thinking, ‘Well, what’s going on?'”
What’s with the “deep values” stuff? This is all bloody obvious … including Trump’s win. The Press, the punditry, entrenched Washington, and, for that matter, the staff at LI missed it cleanly, but that hardly means that there’s any great mystery involved.
It’s also obvious that “Trumpism” is stronger than ever, despite the universal whining in the press and just about everywhere else about everything he does. The longer he survives—and I predict he’ll have no trouble doing so—the more obvious it becomes that the Progressive program to castrate everything about America can be fought.
And opposing national castration includes fighting back the crime wave on our border. The Wall is far more than a “sense”—it’s an imperative, and American voters know it. The problem isn’t the electorate, the problem is candidates. There’s only one Trump. Again, no deep analysis is needed to spot that. The sort of people who have any desire to go into politics are, well, generally bums. And I don’t see that changing in the future. No deep analysis needed for that prediction, either.
“doubts whether conservative leaders really trust the average common man and woman”
Dear As*hats: The feeling is mutual, and there are more of us.
Water…also still wet.
With the failure, the deliberate failure, by the GOPe to a) restore the rule of law, b) confirm the replacements for Obama’s cabinet and sub-cabinet appointees, c) repeal Obamacare, d) return to constitutional budgeting, e) do anything about tax reform [they are doing a dog and pony show now before killing it]; the only thing left is regaining control of the border and of the immigration process. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are trying to turn that into acceptance of the ability of states and cities to nullify Federal law for privileged groups and open borders and amnesty.
If Republicans fail in that, there is absolutely no reason to vote ever Republican, or even vote at all because electoral politics are now moot. That does not mean the end of politics, but just a change in form.
Anne is talking…and sampling…”high-intensity” T-rump supporters.
This is a skewed sample, obviously. These are the “I could shoot someone on 5th Ave” types.
They don’t know, and they don’t CARE, about what the real T-rump DOES. They care about their faith.
T-rump parachuted into the parade, co-opting “immigration” when the reality was that this was a campaign conversion. Ter’bul old “cuck” and “illiterate” Jonah Goldberg had been calling for a border barrier for over a decade when Donald Ducks co-opted the idea.
Now, he’s shown he OWNS DACA, and he has gone all stoppy-foot FOR amnesty.
If you down-thumb the comment, make an argument refuting what I said, cowards.
Or we can just point our fingers at you and laugh at the circus clown … hahahahahaha 🙂
Your premise is wrong: Trump’s supporters voted ‘for’ him as a way to oppose the political establishment, and continue to support him as a way to continue opposing the political establishment.
Trump is the flag of the Populist movement, not its leader, and he’s a very imperfect one. But absent a better flag, he’ll do.
Well, while I disagree, that at least is a statement that I can respect.
I have a problem with the leader of the most powerful nation on earth being a “flag”. But I take your point.
I think, for instance, the T-rump doesn’t see it that way.
Trump is simply trying to do a job, MAGA. What you,and others, fail to understand is that Trump is not a political ideologue. He did not run simply claiming to be a conservative or a liberal. He ran by promising to do specific things. To the limits of his power, he has done most of the things which were most important.
Crushing the ideological enemies of the right is not high on his agenda. Creating jobs, reducing the burden on the working class and small business and making the US economy competitive on the Global market is what he considers important. He sees the most important accomplishment as being putting people back to work by CREATING jobs. He started by reducing the economic pressures on the working class by reducing regulations which place onerous conditions on businesses and workers. He lobbied for the repeal of Obamacare [which was blocked by the Republican Congress]. He pushed for comprehensive tax reform [which is being watered down in a bid to kill THAT by the Republican Congress]. He has tried to begin construction of the promised wall [also being blocked by the Republican Congress]. Beginning to see a pattern of obstruction here?
And, building the wall to curtail illegal immigration, which steals jobs and money from this country, is still high on that list. But, the existing Republican Congress is what is holding all of that back. The Congress is working in direct opposition to its constituency. It is absolutely incredible. And, yet, we have people, who are so consumed with personal hatred for Trump, that they seek to blame the failings and obstruction of others on him.
“What you,and others, fail to understand is that Trump is not a political ideologue. He did not run simply claiming to be a conservative or a liberal.”
Yah, no. You’re typically full of shit.
He expressly ran pretending to be a “conservative”. Even the modern iteration of Reagan. He lied, of course. Which is the basis for my feelings about the lying, fraudulent sack of shit.
He is a New York Progressive with rightist leanings. You can tell who he is by who his kids are. BIG GOVERNMENT Progressives. Life-long Deemocrats.
No, Trump did not run as a conservative. He ran on a specific agenda. And, he has fulfilled much of that agenda. Now, much of that agenda was composed of conservative issues. But, it was a specific agenda which was designed to make America Great again. That it went against the Establishment position had everything to do with the agenda.
As to being a Progressive, this does not seem to be a problem as long as he delivers on his promises. After all, the Conservative hero of the last election cycle was Ted Cruz. The same Ted Cruz who has very close historical ties to the Bush clan and Goldman Sachs [it don’t get anymore Establishment-Progressive than that]. But, what really frosts you, and other self-identified conservatives, is that Cruz lost because Trump ran on Cruz’s platform, that of the anti-Establishment crusader. Unfortunately for Ted, not only was the GOP primary set up to defeat his bid, but Trump really was a political outsider. This is all beginning to sound very Hillary Clintonesque, at this point.
Yeah. You’re delusional. Really, badly delusional.
Ha, ha, ha. I’M DELUSIONAL????? REALLY????? Watch out for the unicorns as you dip lemonade out of that stream flowing down from the Gumdrop Mountains.
“Yeah. You’re delusional. Really, badly delusional.”
When you know you’ve won your debate against Ragspierre. 🙂
No, stupid.
It’s when you can read crap like “T-rump is the ultimate outsider” and “Reagan was not a conservative”, and correctly identify the crapper as a delusional nutbar.
I want the wall, but failing that – give me the judges. One of two reasons I voted for Trump – the judges. The other is he is not Hillary. Everything else is gravy.
Mexico has a problem that they will not confront unless there is an incentive. Curbing immigration “reform” will force Mexico to confront its internal problems, and America to confront labor arbitrage, Democratic gerrymandering, and Planned Parenthood.
what “argument”, Rags? This isn’t an argument you put forth, it is ad hominem. “I paid for an argument, this is abuse”
nne is talking…and sampling…”high-intensity” T-rump supporters.
This is a skewed sample, obviously. These are the “I could shoot someone on 5th Ave” types.
They don’t know, and they don’t CARE, about what the real T-rump DOES. They care about their faith.
T-rump parachuted into the parade, co-opting “immigration” when the reality was that this was a campaign conversion. Ter’bul old “cuck” and “illiterate” Jonah Goldberg had been calling for a border barrier for over a decade when Donald Ducks co-opted the idea.
Now, he’s shown he OWNS DACA, and he has gone all stoppy-foot FOR amnesty.
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There are several arguments there. There’s my usual word-play. There’s no ad hominem. Look it up.
Not only are there arguments there, they seem to be too strong for you cowards to deal with.
This is fun…!!!
Mac45: “Unfortunately for Ted, not only was the GOP primary set up to defeat his bid, but Trump really was a political outsider.”
Mac45, we have Vichy Mitchy, Boner, even Dole on the record as saying they’d rather have Trump than Cruz specifically because they thought Sen Cruz was more principled than Donald Trump. So they systematically no-platformed him. I supported Ted Cruz and still do, but once Cruz was out of the race, Trump was the only other candidate who supported the things I want… and so far he’s delivered them. That the GOPe was stupid enough to misread what Trump represents isn’t a surprise.
Yet, all of these “principled” politicians turned against Trump as soon as it was clear that he would probably win the nomination. Originally they viewed Trump as a Cruz spoiler. And, as the primary was set up to defeat the anti-establishment candidate, Cruz, Trump was being used to split the vote of potential Cruz supporters. But, it all backfired. Make no mistake, Cruz is a brilliant politician. He saw the anti-establishment sentiment rising when he took his seat in the Senate. And, he positioned himself on most of the issues to be able to present himself as a champion of the anti-establishment. His only problem was Trump. Trump was THE political outsider. Cruz wasn’t.
Trump, ran the Cruz race [anti-establishment outsider hated by the establishment politicians]. But, he really was a political outsider. And, since being in office, he has continually attempted to keep his promises. He is still attempting to keep them. And, he is the only one in DC who is making any attempt to keep these promises. The GOPe congress has not only made NO attempt to keep the promises on whcih the ran and for which they were elected, but are now willfully attempting to keep Trump from keeping his.
Now, let me explain something about the Republican Conservative Movement. When Goldwater lost to Reagan, the conservative movement, as it was originally, died. Reagan was not a conservative. He was a former Democrat moderate turned Republican moderate. And, he was wildly successful, as he appealed to moderates from both parties. So, the Republican Party rebuilt their Conservative wing around Reagan, a moderate. He became the Republican poster boy for conservative values. The remaining Goldwater conservatives, the true conservatives, were pushed farther and farther out of the party. The Republican party still paid lip service to true conservative values, but it did nothing to advance them. Ideology took a back seat to political expediency. So, today’s ideological divide is those who support the Establishment and those who oppose it.
You ARE a delusional idiot.