MTG’s Exit Interview with The NY Times: Scorn, Self-Pity, and a Rewrite of History
Draper wrote that Greene’s “disillusionment with Trump” went “beyond the Epstein files.” … “I was so naïve,” she said.
Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) has always a rather strange bunny — one whom even some Republicans had serious reservations about long before her election to Congress in 2020. Axios reported that her past support for conspiracy theories prompted concern among party leaders, including Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana, then–House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, and former Rep. Mark Walker of North Carolina.
Still, their opposition proved insufficient to counteract the strong backing she had from then–White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. Her enthusiastic embrace of the MAGA agenda later earned her the endorsement of President Donald Trump and secured her position within the Republican Party.
That position ultimately collapsed under the weight of her perceived betrayal. After years of near-total allegiance, we’ve watched her acrimonious break with Trump unfold over the past six months.
In a scathing interview with The New York Times’s Robert Draper published just days before she leaves office, she casts herself not as a defector, but as one who has been abandoned.
Marjorie Taylor Greene ran to the New York Times to trash President Trump, saying of Trump’s remarks at Charlie Kirk’s funeral, “That was absolutely the worst statement… It just shows where his heart is… and proves that he does not have any faith.”
Unforgivable. pic.twitter.com/i4XXRgWVvA
— johnny maga (@_johnnymaga) December 29, 2025
Draper opened with Greene’s withering criticism of Trump’s speech at the September memorial service for Charlie Kirk, which he called a “clarifying moment” for her. The Georgia congresswoman noted the contrast between Erika Kirk’s forgiveness of her husband’s alleged assassin and Trump’s professed hatred for his political opponents.
Trump said of Kirk, “He was a missionary with a noble spirit and a great, great purpose. He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That’s where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent[s], and I don’t want the best for them.”
Greene told Draper:
That was absolutely the worst statement. It just shows where his heart is. And that’s the difference, with her [Erika] having a sincere Christian faith, and proves that he does not have any faith.
Our side has been trained by Donald Trump to never apologize and to never admit when you’re wrong. You just keep pummeling your enemies, no matter what. And as a Christian, I don’t believe in doing that. I agree with Erika Kirk, who did the hardest thing possible and said it out loud.
Although Greene has given as good as she’s gotten during her time in Washington, D.C., she once told a friend (whom Draper said confirmed the remarks), “After Charlie died, I realized that I’m part of this toxic culture. I really started looking at my faith. I wanted to be more like Christ.”
First, few — if any — politicians love their opponents. Second, Christ taught his followers not to judge.
Draper disingenuously claimed that “Greene’s demands to release the Epstein files seemed to be the last straw for Trump.” According to Draper:
Greene told me that the Epstein files represented “everything wrong with Washington,” adding that it was a story of “rich, powerful elites doing horrible things and getting away with it. And the women are the victims.”
In early September, Greene spoke with several of those victims in a closed-door House Oversight Committee meeting. Their testimony struck her as entirely believable. In her own small way, Greene later told me, she could understand what it was like for a woman to stand up to a powerful man.
The reality is that the rupture in their relationship began after Trump sent her private polling on how she might fare in a potential Georgia Senate or gubernatorial run. CNN’s Scott Jennings reported, “[Trump] didn’t tell her not to run [for Senate]. What she didn’t say was that he sent her a poll privately, discreetly, and it had information in it. And it showed her down 20 points to Sen. Jon Ossoff.”
🚨 BREAKING: SCOTT JENNINGS on President Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene
"[Trump] didn't tell her not to run [for Senate]. What she didn't say was that he sent her a poll privately, discreetly, and it had information in it. And it showed her down 20 points to Sen. Jon Ossoff."… pic.twitter.com/t8dTssaQoe
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 16, 2025
Draper wrote that Greene’s “disillusionment with Trump” went “beyond the Epstein files.”
Greene told me that she once believed that Trump wanted to help ordinary people but has since been disillusioned by his actions and statements on issues that include tariffs and Gaza. “I was so naïve,” she said.
Greene’s last exchange with the president was by text message on Nov. 16. That day, she received an anonymous email threatening her college-aged son: “Derek will have his life snuffed out soon. Better watch his back.” The email’s subject heading used the nickname Trump had given her the day before: “Marjorie Traitor Greene.”
Greene texted that information to the president. According to a source familiar with the exchange, his long reply made no mention of her son. Instead, Trump insulted her in personal terms. When she replied that children should remain off-limits from their disagreements, Trump responded that she had only herself to blame. Greene texted a senior administration official that Trump had endangered her family.
Draper asked Greene if her recent apology on CNN for “taking part in the toxic politics” referred to her accusations of treasonous conduct against then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY). She responded, “Yeah! Because a Christian shouldn’t be that way. And I’m a Christian.”
Please.
Greene told Draper that she was “politically homeless. … I’m, like, radioactive. … But I’ve matured. I’ve developed depth.” Right.
She added that she was “done with Washington and with politics.”
Good. Few will miss her.
Greene’s attempt at reinvention — framed as spiritual growth, moral clarity, and hard-won maturity — rings hollow against the record she leaves behind. She rose by embracing the very political culture she now condemns, wielded it relentlessly against perceived enemies, and only disavowed it once the cost became personal.
Whether her estrangement from Trump marks genuine reflection or simple fallout from a failed alliance is ultimately beside the point. What remains is a familiar arc in modern American politics: grievance repackaged as growth, betrayal reframed as conscience, and an exit that offers no accountability — only the absolution she grants herself.
My message to Georgia’s 14th district and America.
Thank you. pic.twitter.com/tSoHCeAjn1— Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) November 22, 2025
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Of course, it’s her point of view. Not taking her side and I freely admit I voted for Trump three times, but there have been times I wanted to put duct tape on his mouth and mittens on his fingers.
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Lincoln on Gen. U.S Grant: “I can’t spare this man; he fights!”
I’ve probably had the same number of times for this woman and I didn’t vote for her (nor was I eligible)
well
he is a fighter
and sometimes things are said that are cringy
but I’ll take it for the win!
We’ve all been there, but DJT has shown more restraint this term than in his first.
Charlie didn’t hate his opponents, and they still murdered him.
So Greene can just STFU. We are through with this surrender nonsense.
That’s the thing isn’t it? It doesn’t matter whether we hate our opponents. They certainly hate us.
Hmmmm. Trump or Harris as president.
Wow, I am soooooo conflicted!
Well, OK, I am really not conflicted. I’ll take Trump for the win. After all, I wasn’t voting for a Pope. I was voting for a President.
Oh, and MTG, Christ stuck it out until he was crucified. You, not to much. You folded like a cheap suit.
Not to mention, your angry bitch photo reminded me of the now forgotten harridan from Wyoming. What was her name again?
“The Georgia congresswoman noted the contrast between Erika Kirk’s forgiveness of her husband’s alleged assassin and Trump’s professed hatred for his political opponents.”
I’m sorry but I fail to see where President Trump is in a position in which he needs to forgive Kirk’s assassin. Those with a similar mindset have tried to assassinate him. I’m of the opinion that assassins should be given no quarter myself.
And as to Trump’s comment, am I the only person who’s ever met someone from Queens? They’re loud, brash and rude just like Trump. What’s the problem here? Does everyone have the vapors?
The necessary pruning of the tree of conservatism continues apace. Green is gone, and Owens and Carlson’s true colors are coming to light. Good riddance to them.
Shocking news to those of us who have been aware of Donald Trump since the 1970s (I grew up in the tri-state area.) Donald Trump is not the greatest ambassador for Christianity.
We are all flawed. Trump at least doesn’t try to conceal his.
MTG is just as flawed at Trump when it comes to Christianity but she’s incapable of seeing the beam in her own eye.
Then perhaps she needs to worry about herself.
Elections are a binary choice.
Harris could have been president. She’s not. The semensaver from California would have been an absolute travesty for this nation.
Nothing, Absolutely NOTHING Trump can do would make me regret my vote for him.
Political actions (i.e. Trump’s ‘hatred’ of his enemies) and personal actions (Erika Kirk’s forgiveness of the evil that took away her husband) are very different things. By trying to link the two, MTG is showing both her intellectual ignorance and her spiritual immaturity.
I don’t agree with a lot of what Trump says. I also am smart enough to realize that it is quite literally no worse than the rhetoric coming from the ‘enemy’ side. Trump is not calling for assassintions, where many of the vocal left regularly do (and some have attempted and/or succeeded).
If she was polling 20 points behind the absurdly awful Ossoff, in a still mostly red state, her retirement and mea culpa tour of the media is nothing more than trying to save whatever legacy she thinks she might have. It will work in her mind and for a handful of her loyal followers who couldn’t understand why her rhetoric was actually more damaging to conservatism than Trump.
The departure of Green will be felt the most in Congress where the majority is razor thin (not that her vote would necessarily matter). Other than that, good riddance. She was past due.
It’s not like Congress is actually doing anything anyway 🤷♂️
I can see why her husband divorced her.
The very fact that she went to the NY Times to do this shows that she isn’t a very serious person.
She was also on The View. I don’t know which is worse.
Maybe real news programs. wouldn’t air her so she sided with ‘fake news’ instead?
Yep. At that point it was anyone who will listen to me even if they wave at me on my way down.
She’s moved to the McCain/Romney wing of the party whose main goal is to be liked by all the right people at all the right media companies.
And to earn that like they embrace the neocon, globalist agenda of big gov’t spending, big unions, corporatism without concern for monopoly/cartel practices and open borders. If/when the US domestic manufacturing base and the good paying private sector jobs with good benefits that create and sustain the broad middle-class (the center 70% above the bottom 15% and below the top 15%) nearly disappear ….they are totes ok with that.
They got theirs. Now that’s progressive thinking.
She is the classic woman scorned, just like Candace Owens. The biggest problem is her seat will be vacant for months.
No, it won’t. Georgia has a Republican governor, so he will surely call the special election as quickly as the law allows him to do so, rather than delaying it as long as possible, as a Democrat governor would do.
She is serious enough to go on The View first. Grifters gotta grift. The left hated her until she badmouthed Trump and now they love her, what’s new?
She will disappear into oblivion now that she will no longer be a useful idiot for the left. They hated her, and still do.
But she doesn’t have the staying power to be a permanent problem. She is Adam Kinzinger with a va jay jay.
She also bought a 5$ estate in Costa Rica and was down there for the holidays with her family amd Masse
Oh she ain’t done
And she got her :0f pieces of silver
She was a fireball and a bit crazy , but I never saw this coming
$5 Estate? $5 million dollar estate? I didn’t hear about that but didn’t she have money before Congress or are you saying she got rich in Congress?
well BYE…
dont let the door hitya where
the good LORD split ya.
IMHO she was past her Best Buy
date anyway … but that is just me.
mtg has it wrong
the christian spirit isnt about being made into slaves
its about an at the surface level of forgiveness so that the heart your own heart wont be weighed down by the criminal actions of those you forgive
while the forgiver maintains the knowledge that they must seek justice for the evil that knows no justice and deal with them in a swift manner as to stop their next attacks
A lot of people have a deeply flawed warm fuzzy understanding of what it means to truly love somebody.
Came into Congress with a net worth of 400k. Leaving with a net worth north of 7 million. Just
Another grifter masquerading as a MAGA/American First politician. And made sure she waited till her Congressional pension vested. At least a prostitute earns her money.
I think the actual figures are something like entering Congress in 2021 with a net worth of about $700,000 and leaving 4 yrs later with a net worth of $25,000,000. Her claim is that the figure reflects an increase in her 50% stake in her construction business. Quite an increase.
She’s been batsh*t crazy for a long, long time!
MTG’s act of running away from her responsibility to her constituents because muh feelz is disgraceful. The fact that it comes at a time when the R majority is razor thin merely underscores her essential triviality and selfishness.
Do your hair-shirting on your own dime, bint.
Yeah, Why couldn’t she just stay on till the fall elections. No excuse not to really.
Sorry 5 million estate in coasta rico
I just commented above on that. I know some real estate in Central America is cheap but not that cheap, lol
I may be mistaken but wasn’t it already a done deal per Trump that he would not support her because the numbers just weren’t there?
He wouldn’t support her for Senator, probably, She was still a congressman and would be till the fall. Nothing prevented her from announcing she wouldn’t see reelection and finishing up her term.
Thanks.
I didn’t always agree with her, but I admired her feistiness and strong support of Trump. She reacted understandably to her son being threatened, though it’s not clear that the threat came from Trump or his team. She’s not the first ally to break with Trump, and probably not the last.
People change. Has she really been on the scene for only five years?
STFU. Even this ALLEGED threat came in the middle of November. Long after she had gone off the reservation insane attacking Trump and everybody else.
This is pure damage control BS trying to turn herself into the victim.
She started this fight.
At least Trump doesn’t call his opponents “whitewashed tombs”.
Matthew 23:27
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness.”
MTG appears to be Biblically illiterate.
The feminization of the christian church continues unabated.
Terse and true. Well done!
“Greene texted that information to the president. According to a source familiar with the exchange, his long reply made no mention of her son. Instead, Trump insulted her in personal terms. When she replied that children should remain off-limits from their disagreements, Trump responded that she had only herself to blame. Greene texted a senior administration official that Trump had endangered her family.”
Now as much as I’ve agreed and supported Trump on many of his policies and actions (especially the ones that restored rightful Presidential authority) I have to admit the above certainly comes across as being very like what his reaction would be. He is not a man for curbing his tongue or pen to allow for his better angels to prevail.
I honestly don’t get the hate slung MTG’s way. I certainly don’t see eye to eye with her on all issues. But if you look at the legislation she sponsored while in Congress it shows her politics reflected what used to be considered a core Conservative platform. So I think the hate is more about her disagreeing with Trump than her Conservative bona-fides.
Was it poor judgment to go on the View and speak with the NYT? I’d sure say so, but I am sure she is finding out just how that backfired already.
And personally I think what Trump said at Kirk’s service was inappropriate because even for a brief moment it made the service about Trump. I think most people know Trump is not a turn the cheek kind of fellow. Which serves him and this country very well.
If her principles are so superior, why did she wait for vestment and not wait until her term is over? The egos these politicians have and their actions reminds me of high school kids that never grew up.
MTG is just a grifter now, no different than John Bolton after Trump fired him.
Her primary source of income, and more importantly: fame and relevance, is to be the R bashing R on lefty media.
That is literally all she has.
So, she’s on “The View”, CNN, MS whatever their name is this week, NY Times, etc, etc, etc. Every hate-filled, Anti-American, entirely Fascist, radical lefty propaganda outlet.
And now that her entire gig is bashing Republicans as, supposedly, a Republican she will find steady work and those media outlets will absolutely love her.
For the rest of us, she is the equivalent of the proverbial soiled toilet paper stuck to your shoe when you return your table in a fancy restaurant that everyone notices but you – until its too late.
This chick is wacko!
She got her money and is leaving. She is not up to the 66,000% net worth increase Omar has had or Sandi from the Bronx going from student debt as a bartender to using millions of “campaign donations” to live the high life of private jets and 5 star hotels but didn’t do too bad for herself
The only thing more insufferable than a reformed smoker is a professed “Christian” who cheats on their spouse.
Her unstable future will be well documented in the pages of the New York Post and her legacy will be that of a quitter and a grifter.
MTG went from hot stuff to cold soup.
Marge was always too ugly to be a Republican; she has the face of a demorat. And now we know the morals of one as well.