Report: Bongino Thinking of Resigning Over Epstein Files Fiasco
It’s about to get ugly.
CNN reported that FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino has told people he might resign over the fiasco over the Jeffrey Epstein files.
It’s starting to boil over between the FBI and the DOJ:
This comes after a heated confrontation with Attorney General Pam Bondi over the handling of the case earlier this week.
The infighting over the case came to a head during a Wednesday meeting, which included Bongino, Bondi, FBI Director Kash Patel and White House chief of staff Susie Wiles, the sources said. Bongino and Patel were confronted about whether they were behind a story that said the FBI wanted more information released but was ultimately stymied by the Department of Justice, they said.
Bongino denied leaking that notion to NewsNation, which published the story, a source familiar with the matter told CNN, though he did not sign on to a statement defending the review included in that article.
Bondi dug herself into a hole. She said she had the Epstein client list on her desk in February.
Then on July 6 she said it doesn’t exist.
It also ticks me off that President Donald Trump has tried to brush off the subject like it’s no big deal after making it a big deal on the campaign trail.
Pam Bondi said the Epstein client list was on her desk to review for release to the public just a few months ago. Now the DOJ she leads claims that there’s no Epstein client list.
Sorry but this is unacceptable.
Was she lying then or is she lying now?
We deserve answers. pic.twitter.com/VcBSLsCLtl
— Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) July 7, 2025
Pam Bondi embarrasses herself with this bullshit excuse and Trump acts like the Epstein case ain’t a big deal
This is a terrible look for the Trump admin pic.twitter.com/4BSgnNPWjL
— Hodgetwins (@hodgetwins) July 8, 2025
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“I’m a politician, which means I’m a cheat and a liar…” – Richard Jordan as ‘Jeffrey Pelt’, The Hunt for Red October
Jordan was awesome in that role. He died too young. What a talent.
That’s when they still made movies that were intended to entertain people.
“and when I’m not kissing babies, I’m stealing their lollypops.”
You gotta put in the whole quote.
…and when I’m not kissing babies, I’m stealing their lollipops.”
You need the full line to give color to the character’s admission.
Great movie….
There is one and only one reason that Trump and his administration refuse to release the list of names and videos. It’s because they know exactly who is on the list and exactly who is in the videos.
No one listens to you as a voice of reason.
Trump himself has said that, so that’s not news. Specifically, he said the list includes people who weren’t involved with pedophilia, so it would be unfair to besmirch these people just to expose the criminals.
But, speaking of criminals, why don’t they just indict them? Surely if they know who is who they can separate the wheat from the chaff and safely indict the guilty and not besmirch the innocent.
BTW, remember this the next time you complain that “MAGA is a cult. MAGA people never disagree with Trump.”
Defense would introduce the list into evidence, resulting in the smear anyway. DOJ may, repeat may, be trying to build cases without reference to the list, just to avoid that sort of situation.
i don’t know why they don’t indict them unless they are on a client list but there is not other evidence. I do know that if the alleged meeting between Bondi, Bongino and Patel took place and Bondi accused Bongino of something he didn’t do I doubt Bongino would stand for that.
When did Trump ever say there was a client list? And based on what knowledge did he say it?
What has been reported is that there’s a phone book with over 1000 names, which is a completely different kettle of fish. A phone book is not a client list, and being in Epstein’s phone book is no indication of anything, so it should not be released. Most people he knew would not have been clients, so just because he had someone’s number doesn’t justify exposing them to the kind of grief they would inevitably get from such a release.
“BTW, remember this the next time you complain that “MAGA is a cult. MAGA people never disagree with Trump.””
The penitents will return to the fold. After all, it’s “all part of the plan”, dontchaknow.
The problem for them, though, is that that extreme loyalty and deference is not transferable to anyone else.
A wise choice indeed, always to carry a hat to speak through.
No one cares about what you think.
Objection, assuming facts not in evidence. “Think…”
Are you in those videos? Is your name listed?
Or there is no list, and when Bondi claimed she had it she was fabulating.
A politician who lies? That’s unpossible!!1!
The “Hunt for Red October” was a great book also. The movie was very true to the book.
Another great book was “Red Storm Rising”, which to my chagrin was never made into a movie, but still seems relevant today. I was inspired by Reagan to join the military (much like we are seeing today with Trump) and was a young lieutenant when RRR came out. We had numerous exercises like REFORGER to prove that we could respond in time if the Red Army crossed the Fulda Gap.
I remember… REFORGER ’77 and REFORGER ’78. I was enlisted USAF, EC-130E maintenance.
The WH is making a huge unforced error. Release it all hardcopy, digital, still photo and videos. Redact the names and blur faces of the minors but get this into the public domain. Wishing that many prominent, powerful, politically connected, wealthy individuals didn’t hang around with Epstein/Maxwell and hadn’t visited Pedo Island or another Epstein property, party or event will not make it go away. Get the info out minus very limited redaction and privacy protection for minors and let the public make its own conclusions about this. At minimum it stops the growing cascade of voices who view this as the issue in battling/defeating the Swamp/Deep State. If the WH refuses they will be earning the scorn coming their way as acting to protect instead of defeat the ‘uniparty’.
The only reasonable explanation is that the list’s release would be so damaging to the nation that Trump made the decision not to release it. Bondi is only acting on his behalf.
I can’t see Trump NOT being the one to make the final decision on this. He’s very hands-on with everything else
Well, those girls didn’t molest themselves now did they?
And Maxwell is in prison for a crime that apparently has no documentation? Either spill the beans or release her.
My own take? What’s contained in the documentation is so horrible and so pervasive that not even Trump wants to release it.
I think if that was the case then he’d be talking about it, not trying to change the subject. Trump has never shied away from that sort of thing. He’d also be going after everyone involved.
Trump has said that the list of those involved with Epstein would ruin the reputations of people who committed no crimes. He said that’s why the “list” hasn’t been, and won’t be, released. Surely, they know at least some of those on the list who were involved in criminal activity. Those people should be investigated, indicted, and tried if they have the evidence.
Come clean, Pam, about all – ALL – of it and enjoy the temporary embarrassment but more long term credibility. Give us a reason to trust you, not one to doubt you.
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Right now it’s about her. She was careless and almost flippant when she said the files were on her desk. If there is a suitable replacement for her now who has already been Senate confirmed, then if need be, she can go. If not, I doubt this ‘Republican Senate’ will give Trump a new one.
She’s not a serious person and I beta horrible AG
Have you learnt nothing? UNLESS you hear it direct don’t believe a damn thing reported in the media 🙄
Bongino himself has the Bongino Rule, which is basically wait and see.
Whether or not the files exist, we were assured they were. Two men who made their careers out of Esptein “truthing” got dragged in front of a camera to spew the same rhetoric we’ve been hearing for years now only after they got their government appointments. Pam Bondi can’t keep her story straight at all.
It’s a terrible look for the administration, and the opposite of the transparency that we were promised. Things become much darker when the CCTV footage we were told didn’t exist (because the cameras were broken) then deleted in error turns up unannounced last week with an eight minute gap in the runtime.
Thanks for funding ICE and securing the border, I guess, but the trust is gone.
I think you’re believing lies.
And if you realize that these people were grifters and not brave patriots fighting the powers that be, perhaps ponder that many, if not all, of their fellow goers are also maybe, juuust maybe, grifters.
“Nothing to see here” doesn’t pass the smell test. From beginning of the first time Epson was picked up until he didn’t kill himself it was a major case then all of a sudden it was a nothingburger.
Ghislaine trafficking young females to herself only is laughable.
Don’t know Bongino and never talked to him but from listening to his podcast for years he doesn’t strike me as a go along get along type of guy. I think Trump needs to make a decision and quick. Bondi or the rest of his cabinet. This Epstein stuff considering the number of people like Dershowitz who have said the list is there and they have seen it is too much.
‘Wired; is reporting that they’ve analyzed the metadata from that jailhouse video Bondi put out (of Epstein’s cell area) and determined that the video “was edited with Adobe Premiere Pro, stitched together from 2 clips, and saved 4 times.” They’re not necessarily asserting that it was manipulated to nefarious ends. But, they (correctly) point out it is clearly NOT ‘raw video,’ as Bondi described it. It’s obviously edited video.
I’ve thought from the moment her nomination was announced two things: She’s a better choice than Gaetz. But, she doesn’t exude competence. I think she’s in way over her head and her total lack of experience trying cases (she hasn’t tried that many) and absolute lack of experience in practicing federal law in any capacity hurts her, deeply. She managed a few dozen lawyers at the State of Florida DOJ office. She’s managing tens-of-thousands now, plus sworn officer and administrative people.
Fascinating. Locard’s Principle: “Every contact leaves a trace” has been a foundational concept in forensics since the early 20th Century. Now we see it even in the digital domain. Obvious that amateurs were trying to doctor the video and only succeeded in more embarrassment to all those entangled in this web of lies.
For this particular situation, I think Gaetz would have been a better choice. He’s a bomb-thrower, a loose cannon. He may have cut the evidence loose just to watch the world burn.
I agree, but he’d hurt the feelings of the muh principles crowd and we can’t have that.
Jethro is an idiot
Trump nominated him because he knew he’d never get confirmed and now he’s gone for good.
Gaetz never would have been confirmed. His nomination hearing would have been a disaster of biblical proportions. Remember, everything the House Ethics committee had on him (which was apparently voluminous) would have been introduced into evidence. Whatever AG he might have been is largely moot because absent a recess appointment, it was never going to happen.
It takes one to catch one?
Gaetz was extensively investigated by Florida and federal law enforcement for several years and the allegations were found not credible.
She was bad in Fl: involved in Zimmerman witch-hunt, weak on property title crimes and weak on 2A.
Alan Dershowitz is all over the news saying he knows who ‘s on the list and he wants it all released. He knows everyone who is being protected. He would just love to have it all released because it would further prove he is innocent of the vile, baseless accusations lodged against him. Since he met Jeffrey Epstein, he says, he has slept only with his wife. (Were you dabbing it up on the side before you met Jeff, Allen?). But, privilege and court orders totally prevent him from speaking up. How convenient if he is lying and how cowardly he won’t even consider suffering the consequences by speaking up. Allen, please, put up or shut the F up. We see through you.
Come on, Allen, spill the beans. Are your fellow tribesman downvoting me? Stop smirking, and start singing.
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The rootless cosmopolites are circling the wagons for you. Please, do us a solid and name those names.
I believe the stories about Dersh are about statements he made some time ago, after he had his go-around with accusations. They’ve been dug up again because he directly contradicts the now-official administration line.
Follow the news, friend. He is screaming from the roof he can name names only if he could.
Nope. I saw him just a few days ago on a podcast I think. He says there is a list because he saw it and he knows who is on it because he has seen it
Hey, Haxo (moonmoth) —
YA HAPPY NOW?
I was wondering the same thing.
Yes. I’m also happy to learn (as I’m sure you are) that Mary agrees with me about Trump’s attempt to shut up the reporter who asked about Epstein’s alleged connections to foreign and domestic intelligence agencies. Here’s what she posted:
It also ticks me off that President Donald Trump has tried to brush off the subject like it’s no big deal after making it a big deal on the campaign trail.
Indeed, I agree that was low-class of Trump, transparent, and Bidenesque.
It was also quite a damning way to evade credible allegations that Trump’s been covering up for foreign intelligence services whose Kompromat operations pimp out little American girls to rich, powerful pedos.
Now you’re making foolish leaps.
It was tactic worthy of “Move On.”
There’s a reason for it that we don’t know yet.
Claiming it’s that reason is a big-ass stretch.
“It also ticks me off that President Donald Trump has tried to brush off the subject like it’s no big deal after making it a big deal on the campaign trail.”
To quote Johnny Rotton: “Ha-haha, ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?”
Yes. I’ve felt that way a couple times since January.
For the four years before that, I felt it every day.
In the first place, I said from the start that even IF they released something, there was no possible way it would be complete and accurate, Too many rich and powerful people have had far too long to scrub it.
However, the way Bondi has handled this from the start is completely and utterly INCOMPETENT. From her idiotic stunt with claiming the list was ‘on her desk’ and then making a big show of handing binders to a bunch of conservative influencers… that contained zero new information. AT BEST she was too lazy, stupid, and incompetent to actually verify what she was handing out. At worst she was corrupt.
And the same thing is happening again. Why are we talking about this now? Not because Bondi did her job, talked to Congress, held a press conference, or answered questions. But because of a stupid memo. And Bondi has utterly REFUSED to actually manage this situation properly.
This is the kind of thing you hold a press conference, you make VERY CLEAR statements, and you answer questions.
Instead, the few things that she’s said are directly contradicting what she said previously.
So was she lying then, or is she lying now? Or is she just too plain incompetent to manage this properly?
And that’s even BEFORE you start into the fact that she once again claimed she was releasing the ‘raw video’, but actual competent hackers have already demonstrated that its missing time and is actually stitched together from 2 videos.
So again, is she corrupt, or just stupid and incompetent?
Either way, something drastic needs to change, FAST, whether that’s firing Bondi or having a very intense Q&A press conference and actually answering the questions that need to be answered.
checks and balances at work here
we should be applauding and once again not allowing lefty to control the narrative
the left would just cover everything up..like the rigging of the 2020 elections
high praise for the checks and balance being shown between different departments
ITS THE ONLY WAY TO CLEAN UP AND OUT THE GOVERNMENT WASTE
CORRUPTION and Civil Servants being defended by middle class hating
red tape loving bloated bureaucrats
We applaud the honesty of the administration
dont let lefty control this narrative
Release the information, all of it, to the ultimate check/balance; ‘We the People’ so that we can see for ourselves if there’s no ‘there’ to see. Maybe it is all much ado about nothing…but I don’t know anybody who believes that. Refusing to release it and trying to spin it as a good thing is the equivalent of pissing down my back and telling me it is raining.
Or don’t and be viewed fairly or unfairly as another cog in the uniparty machine captured by the DC deep state despite lots of promises about draining the swamp.
no argument to this
but I do want credit given ( hence my post) that the maga are willing to show that there is something rotten going on vs the continued business as usual that the lefty lead country/world feeds us
the list must be devastating !!!
dont let lefty control this narrative
Are you referring to the numerous Trump supporters who have been demanding answers online for the last 4 days? Or perhaps to Tom Fitton (of Judicial Watch), who is suing Trump’s DOJ for evading JW’s FOIA request for information about one of Epstein’s deceased victims? See the video “FITTON: Judicial Watch IN COURT NOW for Epstein Records!” ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSjaQ04SY4U ).
no
not talking about the pro americans who want the truth
Im referring to the anti american thuggs who feed off of chaos and welfare -for-life loving slugs
No, we’re talking about idiots like you who call MAGA support “a cult,” and who claim we always support Trump and acquiesce to his decisions. That was plainly never true, but it’s so plain now even a dimwit (hey, like you!) can see we do not support Trump over this issue.
I was going to plunger you, but DaveG’s response perfectly sums up my thoughts about your keyboard flatulence.
How very convenient that both you and DaveG have forgotten that until Mary Chastain posted this article 5 hrs ago, and agreed with me about the hypocrisy of Trump’s “why the big deal about Epstein” response, regulars here had been screeching at me like banshees all week for saying that the cover-up of the Epstein files is a big story that LI shouldn’t keep ignoring.
As usual, you completely and totally miss the point, Haxxor.
Get the hell out of here.
As Yogi Bera would have said, your post is deja vu all over again: “You miss the point completely” and “Get out of here” are exactly what several regulars here had been shrieking at me all last week when I was saying that the Epstein-files cover up is a big story that LI couldn’t continue to ignore.
No, we were screeching at you for strongly implying that there was an ulterior reason for LI not coming out and publishing such an article on a schedule that would satisfy YOU.
Well, better late than never. LI finally discovers the big story of the week. Zero Hedge, Tucker Carlson, Fox had this story days ago. Trump and his people seem to have forgotten the old dictum: “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt”
thats just it
its notttt the biggest story of the week ,,unless you put bad personal behavior
above stopping iran hamas hezzzzz blmplo
I too want the truth of the epstein story
but its not as important as what I just posted about
but it IS important
You nailed it. Most of what Mary has reported here was already a red-hot topic elsewhere 4 days ago — except the “Bongino resignation” reports. Those reprts sprayed napalm all over the Epstein files cover-up, after which it was no longer possible to ignore.
Well, Oden; it looks like you and I were wrong, and the Epstein files cover up really is a non story that will be forgotten by Monday. (/sarc).
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-defends-embattled-ag-pam-bondi-nobody-cares-about-jeffrey-epstein
If Pam Bondi, who I thought was a good choice, I can’t explain her (seeking publicity that she later retracted on the Epstein Files), she should be fired.
Bondi should either: (1) ap0l0gize for her ill-thought comments; (2) provide evidence of the Epstein client list on her desk,; or (3) admit that real federal agents might know more than her about ongoing investigations.
They’re all political folks – some have a national security background
It also ticks me off that President Donald Trump has tried to brush off the subject like it’s no big deal after making it a big deal on the campaign trail.
Ty Mary,
Me too.. and I am a big Trump fan.
Big Trump fan also ….. but Trump is dead wrong here. Apparently important figures committed crimes and there are ZERO arrests and ZERO prosecutions. We need sunlight to disinfect this mess. Release what is available and take it from there.
That word “apparently” is doing a lot of work there. What exactly makes this “apparent”? Why do you think “important figures committed crimes? On what basis did you reach that conclusion? Or are you just repeating rumors? Because the thing about rumors is that they’re often false.
If those who’ve seen all the documents say they do not include a client list, and that there doesn’t seem to be any indication that Epstein ever had a client list, or that he ever blackmailed anyone, then I have no choice but to believe them until contrary evidence emerges.
Can’t always make the right choice, but the track record is pretty good so far. Here, it seems like a no win situation. It could be incredibly hard to separate the innocent from the bad actors that most care about, and to know whether anything will be enough or trustworthy. That said, from 30,000 feet, is this a make or break moment that could derail the wins of late and prospects going forward? Hope not. There is so much outrage over everything these days that the truly outrageous can get overlooked. Not saying the outrage here is false, but for some it sure is.
The only possible way to overlook this boondoggle is if major players in the Russia hoax are tried and imprisoned. Starting with Comey, Brennan, and Clapper. Follow that up with people going to prison over the 2020 election swindle. Maybe dangle immunity and some major cash rewards for mid-level conspirators who can lead investigators up the food chain.
Yes, something important. Those guys definitely deserve it. If nothing else, they should be lawfared to the extreme. Would love to see some creative civil suits, perhaps for violations of civil rights or something creative. Make them pay! In the overall scheme of events, perhaps a good tradebefore the deadline.
Trump’s not likely to get away with using Russiagate prosecutions to distract from his cover-up of the Epstein files. Patel alteady tried that this week on X. He got blasted for that trick, then people went right back to demanding the release of the Epstein files.
“That said, from 30,000 feet, is this a make or break moment that could derail the wins of late and prospects going forward? ”
Good news for Trump that most people don’t rank this as a significant concern, he still has the vast majority of the Right totally devoted to him, and those obsessing over this have generally already been tuned out by most others.
You just show up here every few months to pile on and play “gotcha.”
It’s a tribute to Trump that you have so few opportunities.
moonhammed hasn’t been this excited since he thought supporting Israel at the expense of his bros in Hamas and Hezbollah would cost Republicans the mid-terms.
I trust Trump’s judgement on this matter.
What a disaster. We are coming up on the midterms. We cannot afford to lose the House or the Senate.
I don’t think the White House understands how angry people are over this.
This was handled very badly. I say release everything. Let the chips fall wherever they fall.
Yes, it is a disaster. And Trump can’t get out of it by firing Bondi, because he’s the one (not Bondi) who made the statement that’s been causing the most uproar online: when the reporter asked her whether Epstein was working for either foreign or domestic intel, he butted in to shame the reporter (at length) for continuing to talk about Epstein.
That was just about the worst response he could possibly have given, regarding credible allegations that for years, the US (including Trump 45) had knowingly allowed Epstein to pimp out America’s little girls to generate Kompromat for foreign intelligence services.
You are hyperventilating here. Guess there’s little good news these days.
“credible allegations…”
Care to post some of these “credible allegations?”
I’d like to see them for myself.
I doubt that you’re interested in seeing them. If you were, you’d have found them easily during the last week. Alternative media starting dealing with them after the way that Trump attacked the reporter for asking about them.
If you were interested, you’d be aware of them by now.
In case someone is not aware, can you list them for us? Since you already seem to know it would be easier for you to list them than suggest people go off searching without knowing exactly what to search for.
Just so we’re all on the same page, moonhammed was bitching all week that the Epstein story was not discussed sufficiently at LI to satisfy him. Now, he posts this gem.
Yeah, I’d like to see them, if they exist. All I’ve heard so far is not credible allegations but wild speculation.
“What a disaster. We are coming up on the midterms. We cannot afford to lose the House or the Senate.
The only ways the GOP is losing the Senate is either an economic crash, a cartel war in Mexico that doesn’t go well, or if RFK, Jr. and his Brainworm ban either vaccines or HFCS.
“I don’t think the White House understands how angry people are over this.”
Most people don’t rank this as a significant concern. This is a nothingburger, especially when it comes to the midterms.
To me, the Epstein issue is now a lot like the UFO issue, Bigfoot issue, Yeti issue, JFK Assassination issue, etc.
We hear claims of special knowledge, sightings, information, whatever, but until there is real information made public and verified, I just ignore it all.
I want justice to be done, but I’m not going to hyperventilate with every little headline or news hit.
“until there is real information made public and verified, I just ignore it all.”
That strategy fails when the PTB say one thing one day, and the opposite thing another day. That’s something somebody needs to get a wrench on.
I think it’s way more substantial than that. Why? Because Epstein and Maxwell were both convicted in federal court. We know ‘beyond all reasonable doubt’ that they were sex traffickers. What was never released to the public (officially) is precisely who the beneficiaries of that all that trafficking was. Bondi would now have us believe the beneficiary of over ONE THOUSAND (her number) sex trafficking victims was Epstein and Epstein alone. That simply doesn’t pass the smell test.
The problem is Bondi’s source on her claim is, ‘Trust Me Bro’.’
I’m not ‘hyperventilating’ over ‘news hits.’ I’m critical of their behavior – and lack of action – after they campaigned consistently on the PROMISE of releasing this information to the public. And to top it all off, Trump is now saying, ‘Why are you still talking about Epstein?’ That’s not media disinformation. That’s on video. If there’s nothing to hide, they should be acting like they’re hiding something.
“Bondi would now have us believe the beneficiary of over ONE THOUSAND (her number) sex trafficking victims was Epstein and Epstein alone.”
People keep saying this, but I don’t see anybody in the administration claiming this.
The claim is not that there were no clients. The claim is that the administration doesn’t have that list. Not at all the same thing.
Or that there ever was a list. If there weren’t a lot of clients Epstein wouldn’t have needed to keep a list.
So let me repost this from the LI article on climate change:
However, the mainstream media’s constant doom-and-gloom reporting is not having the desired effect. CNN’s chief data analyst, Harry Enten, recently reported on a poll showing that Americans remain largely unmoved by the histrionics surrounding climate change.
SOOOOO
be it epstein slimate change or anything else
STOP ALLOWING THE LEFTY MSM TO CONTROL THIS NATION
so form a “warrren commission” and then get the info in 60 years
oh wait
this might hurt trump so allow the lefty to continue to control the narrative
THE LEFTY LOST US THE VIETNAM WAR THAT WE WERE WINNING AND GETTING OUT OF..or trying to ..except Cronkite said …its a stalemate at best and of course the REAL CROOKS AKA MSM ran with it
the msms lost their power
they lost to joe rogan and the podcasting world
they lsot the 2016 election for hillary clinton
they made a good rebound with covid and the 2020 rigged election..even fox chppied in by declaring AZ way wayyyy before it was known the real results
they got tucker carlson fired so that his constant uncovering of the jan 6 lefty debacle was being exposed
and you wont fight back so you bend at the knee to the lefty
no wonder the gop are rinos
YOU GAVE THEM THAT weakness
IMO, from the beginning, Bondi has appeared to be out of her depth. Has anyone seen any indictment of the money behind all the violence? Trump keeps making personnel mistakes, although much better this term. JFK, picking his brother, and Obama, picking Holder, showed that they understood how important having the right AG was. Arguably it is the position involving the most risk to the Presidency. Trump made many DOJ mistakes in his first term, with Sessions, Comey, Rosenstein and maybe Barr. You think he would have learned by now. He needs a tough, loyal, street fighter.
Like Homan.
Unfortunately, Homan could never get confirmed…which is precisely why he’s in a position that doesn’t require confirmation, and unfortunately exercises no (real) authority because of it.
He also struggles with the English language, don’t he?
I don’t mind that he doesn’t speak the King’s English. Makes him more down to earth. He’s not concerned with niceties, just doing his job.
Do it. Be A Man, Toasterhead
Cynical Publius on X had an interesting post.
https://x.com/CynicalPublius/status/1943831071730360380https://x.com/CynicalPublius/status/1943831071730360380
Dear MAGA People Prone to Conspiracy Thinking (Which is Rightfully Most of Us):
Please consider the fact that the current DOJ, led by Pam Bondi, has resulted in more courtroom successes for the modern conservative agenda than any of us have ever experienced in any of our lifetimes, even if you are 100+ years old.
Please consider further that the current DOJ, led by Pam Bondi, has done so while causing the Democrats and rogue judges to wholly discredit themselves via sheer narcissistic stupidity.
Please consider further that this is all a transformational approach that has completely changed the trajectory of the America justice system and has allowed the enactment of the most significant aspects of the MAGA agenda.
Finally, please consider further that the REAL conspiracy is to destroy such success by making MAGAs rabid over Epstein evidence that may or may not exist, thereby wrecking DOJ leadership in the same manner as when Jeff Sessions was sabotaged.
I’m pretty good at spotting actual conspiracies to undermine our success, so please consider all I have to say.
Your pal,
CP
This isn’t a ‘conspiracy.’ This is people correctly expecting that an issue that came up in Trump’s stump speeches over and over again on the campaign trail would actually be delivered. The only undermining that’s being done is by Bondi…and Trump for that matter.
so what
we are in a war and now is not the time to give in to the enemy
the left is literally fighting agents in the streets
Im not giving in to them by “Caring” about fn Epstein and his sick friends
of course
but many on this site dont realize or want to accept that we are in a war
and that while we want the truth…IN A BATTLE IS NOT THE TIME TO GIVE IN TO THE ENEMY
so as well meaning as some are or might be
they dont realize how true the above is… in a battle is not the time to give in to the enemy
the leftists are the enemy of freedom
100% and I am going to subscribe to CynicalPublius on X because of that excellent post. We need Bondi right where she is.
I’ll give my take on this subject. Epstein was an intelligence asset. He was being run by the Mossad first and then jointly by the cia. The videos, computers, memory sticks, hard drives, security video were all scooped up by the fbi after his arrest. My belief is that this operation started as a way to target British subjects. It spiraled out of control to include Americans of all stripes. They had to offshore after the sweetheart deal given Epstein in South Florida. My opinion is that the information if released would severely damage our foreign relations with multiple allies.
I have listened to Bongino for years. I believe he is a man of principles and morals. This cuts against his standards.
Fine. I understand he’s angry, even I’ll assume righteously angry. But Bondi is far more important than he is and she’s been very successful as AG, both in Florida and now of the US. She stays. I hope Bongino stays too, but if not, I wish him well.
Bottom line; There has never been any reason to suppose there ever was a client list. It was nothing but speculation and rumor. Now those who’ve looked at all the available documents say Epstein never kept any list of his clients, and it makes sense Why would he? He knew who they were, why would he need to keep a list?
And if there never was any list then it makes total sense that they won’t release it, because it doesn’t exist.
So what was Bondi blathering on about a few months ago? I assume she had some documents on her desk that she hadn’t looked at in any detail, and just assumed this “client list” must be among them if it existed at all. But if it didn’t exist then it wouldn’t have been among them. Or maybe she was as stupid as some commenters here seem to be, and thought a phone list is the same as a client list.
Then there are the idiots who seem to think that saying there was no client list is the same as saying there were no clients. No, they’re not the same at all. I don’t think anyone has suggested there were no clients.
This is nonsense. What the hell is the point of running a blackmail operation if you don’t keep proof of the crime you are blackmailing the mark for? A box of thumb drive videos is just as good a “list” as anything else. Epstein tapping his head and saying, “I know what you did” is a ludicrous image.
Well put. People think in terms of a Little Black Book. It probably always was “a box of thumb drive videos”, which may no longer exist. I always thought that Maxwell behaved as if she thought her life was on the line. IMO it is entriely appropriate to draw negative inferences from lack of clear, additional info, after the earlier comments by both Trump and Bondi.
There is not and has never been any evidence that he was “running a blackmail operation”. That has always been pure speculation. And now those who’ve seen the documents tell us that it isn’t true. He never blackmailed anyone and doesn’t seem to have ever planned to.
Right. This is why, when they caught him the first time, instead of throwing the book at him for child trafficking, they kissed his ass, tapped his wrist, and told him not to do it anymore. Then completely ignored him when he went right back to doing it anymore.
If Epstein was running, or part of a blackmail operation, there has to be a client list. Likely in digital form, and if he had any sense, encrypted. If there was no blackmail operation, then where did his money come from? He had an airplane, an island and expensive Manhattan real estate. All that requires considerable funds to acquire and maintain. I follow financial news, and I never head of him, and evidently no one else in the business did either. A man of mystery. So either his money came from clients, or somewhere else. Like dark money from a government. So where is the list? Possibly never decrypted because he used a one-time pad. Possibly the list is on a micro sim card or a nano-sim card. Very small and easy to conceal. More likely some part of the government has it, or has destroyed it because too many important people are involved including foreigners. Epstein had a lot of clients. Do you think he held all that information in his head?
That’s just not the case. He was a high-profile figure in the finance world for decades, making deals of all kinds. Enough to get very rich on without any need for blackmail, though of course also consistent with blackmail if there’s independent evidence for it. But there isn’t.
I don’t know where you get information on his financial activities. Calling him a “high profile figure is a stretch. From a New York Magazine article on how Epstein made his money.
‘After sex-trafficking charges were handed down on Monday, executive-suite financiers discussed how absent Epstein was from the field: “He’s supposed to run an enormous FX foreign-exchange] trading firm,” said Enrique Diaz-Alvarez, chief risk officer at Ebury. “But I never once heard of him or his firm or anyone who worked or traded with him.” And as Forbes wrote in a 2010 blog post with a very direct title — “Sex Offender Jeffrey Epstein Is Not a Billionaire” — his money-management firm based in the U.S. Virgin Islands “generates no public records, nor has his client list ever been released.” ‘
“According to his lawyers, around the time of his notorious plea deal in Florida in 2008, Epstein’s net worth was over nine figures. The figure was “a bone of contention with Epstein’s lawyers,” Spencer Kuvin, an attorney representing three of Epstein’s alleged victims, told the Palm Beach Post in 2008. “In the litigation itself we were never able to get him to produce verified financial information. The ‘nine figures’ came by negotiation. It kept going up and up and up. They started at zero — they wouldn’t tell us at all.”
nymag dot com /intelligencer/2019/07/how-did-jeffrey-epstein-make-his-fortune.html
How do you know he had a lot of clients? He had a lot of clients for his financial business, but that’s not what we’re talking about. How do you know he had a lot of clients for his sex business? Maybe it was only an elite few. And we don’t know how much they paid, which takes us back to where the money came from; some of it came from pimping, but we have no basis for supposing there were a lot of clients paying a little each, rather than a few clients paying a lot each. Or even a few clients paying a little each, because he wasn’t doing it primarily for the money.
From the victim law suits and the indictments.
Geez, Milhouse, just count the girl victims. Over 1,000.
He could have Western Civilization’s nuts in a vise only pimping them out once apiece!
agree
Big “I can’t believe the leopards would eat my face” vibe on this one.
Oh, shut up.
You’re only here to kick the bleeding kid on the playground.
It is my fervent hope that Bongino will remain in his post. I believe he will serve the US better in his current position.
Don’t let the perfect become the enemy of the good.
I don’t see any big problem. Pam Bondi is a major and important figure in this administration. She’s the former longtime AG of a major state. She’s winning, winning, winning massive historic wins at SCOTUS, may they continue with God’s blessing. She stays.
Bondi is the boss of the boss of a midlevel administrator named Bongino at the FBI. I don’t know quite what Mr. Bongino does, but presumably he does it well. Still, he could be replaced if he chooses to leave. Before being appointed to this position far higher than any he’s ever held in his life, he was a fairly ordinary and probably very good cop. He’s also said Epstein killed himself.
“It’s about to get ugly.”
Boy — did Mary nail it, or what? https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-defends-embattled-ag-pam-bondi-nobody-cares-about-jeffrey-epstein