Trump to House Republicans: ‘Don’t F— Around With Medicaid’
Speaker of the House Mike Johnson hopes the chamber will vote on the bill on Wednesday.
Numerous outlets have reported that President Donald Trump warned House Republicans not to touch Medicaid.
“Don’t fuck around with Medicaid,” according to Politico, which heard about the remarks from two people associated with the private meetings.
The Democrats, left, and media have tried to claim that House Republicans will take an ax to Medicaid when all they did was tighten the requirements to avoid fraud.
This made me laugh:
Trump said in response to a question from POLITICO that the hard-liners needed to pare back their demands for deeper spending cuts: “I’m a bigger fiscal hawk,” he said. “There’s nobody like me.”
Yeah, let me introduce you to Rep. Thomas Massie. Oh, wait. Trump already knows about him.
Trump took a shot at Massie, claiming he doesn’t understand government and is a grandstander.
No…Massie understands the Constitution and the government our Founders gave us. He’s the ultimate fiscal hawk and the one person who means it when he says he wants to cut taxes and spending.
Trump’s “Big, Beautiful Bill” barely passed the Budget Committee.
Speaker of the House Mike Johnson wants the House Rules Committee to meet and pass the bill within 24 hours.
Johnson hopes the bill hits the House floor on Wednesday.
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lefty:
without fraud
we have no budget
so if its even close to true
medicaid paid for at least half of allll births in the usa
and even “qualified” non citizens are eligible for the program
we are allowing the left to continue to roll over civility
b/c while the left claims it is uncivilized to not have socialist programs ( the rest of the industrial world has it) we know that the conflict of interest is paramount when the government is running it as they cant/wont investigate themselves and/or have criminal consequences when failures occur
why isnt trump DEMANDING that any political donations made to any politicians be turned into the funding of needy americans?!?!?!
abortions
housing
food
school
npr/pbs
this is america
you want it you can have it
but not at your neighbors expense
Big government has become nothing more than a vote buying scheme.
“Has become”?
Always was.
You’re seriously defending that grandstanding idiot Massie here?
The guy that voted for Biden’s spending bonanza that straight up REMOVED the debt ceiling for the duration, but somehow found his ‘principles’ to make a stupid show vote against Trump’s temporary bill?
but what about this one point where massie wants actual cuts so that the debt will not increase sounds fiscally sound….all the other issues ( for the moment) aside
I agree we cant seem to get these so called fiscal conservatives to be ,,uh,,fiscal conservatives
but massie is making a on target point here
cut the fn spending
Y’all need to decide if you are for raising the debt ceiling or not. Massie voted once, one single time, his entire career to raise the debt ceiling and vote a budget out of committee that raised the debt ceiling. If y’all are this upset for doing it once where is the increased outrage for the GoP members who do so year after year?
The debt is near 125% of GDP. Greece hit the financial skids at 135%. The USA has more room to go before crisis but that’s also gonna make it a much bigger crisis when it hits. Japan is our future at 225% ish ratio. They hit a significant bump this week at their.debt auction. Turns out markets are losing faith in the ability to repay and are.demanding far higher rates of interest.
Speaking of faith in the US Dollar and US sovereign debt take a look at Bitcoin and Gold. Both up substantially as some investors and even a few central banks shift out of US Treasuries and into those as a hedge. That will continue. We have $7 Trillion in debt coming due in 2025. Much of it originally issued at 2 and 1/4% or lower. Rates are nearly twice that now. So our borrowing costs on that $7 Trillion will basically double.
For context We are spending right at $1 Trillion on the entire US Defense Budget. We’re gonna be spending at least $1.2 Trillion on debt service/interest. IOW our debt costs are 20% more than we spend on national defense. It isn’t sustainable. We need cuts to current year spending. Requiring able bodied Adults to work a minimum of 20 hours a week to retain eligibility for the massive welfare, healthcare and housing programs seems a minor thing to hold out for.
I’m not upset that he ‘voted once’, and claiming that is the reason is just lying to cover for what a little weasel Massie is.
The ‘just once’ he voted was the ‘just once’ that they literally REMOVED THE DEBT CEILING, for a freaking DEMOCRAT President.
You don’t get to vote to utterly remove the debt ceiling for a Democrat and let them spend literally as much as they wanted without limit, then whine that your ‘principles’ prevent you from raising the debt ceiling for a Republican.
I’m not saying that we shouldn’t be cutting the budget, and the RINOs are certainly fighting against it, but Massie is utterly worthless in this discussion and has never actually contributed to a single cut in government. He’s a grandstanding, useless jackass.
Just so I understand what you are saying here;
1. Massie voting in ’23 to raise debt ceiling = Bad.
2. Massie voting since then on multiple occasions NOT to extend the spending of that budget via passage of multiple CR = Bad.
3. Massie not voting to extend dent ceiling in now = bad.
So really you ain’t principled about the debt ceiling, fiscal.restraint and spending cuts. Instead your primary objection is whether it is the d/prog or the GoP spending money we don’t have. IOW it is OK when then the GoP spends like drunken sailors but not OK when d/prog do the same.
You are.welcome to your own priorities mine are:
1. Deport all the illegal Aliens
2. Radically UT current spending to get to a balanced budget within five years and begin paying off the $37 Trillion debt.
3. Firearm issues/2A
4. End forever wars and neocon military adventures and ‘entangling alliances’
5. Zero out foreign Aid
Now tell us about the the GoP reps opposing passage and holding it hostage to raise the SALT deduction. Where’s your same level of vitriol, anger at these GoP reps by name? When you consistently spill an equal amount of ink, effort and scorn for those folks then I’ll take your criticism about Massie refusing to ‘go along, get along’ more seriously. As it stands though you are attacking the one GoP rep who won’t play nicely with the establishment and just vote for more deficit spending. The ‘go along/get along’ crazy as gotten us a $37 Trillion debt growing at $1Trillion every hundred days.
Medicare and Medicaid sound alike, but they are very different programs. Many people confuse the two, especially older folks. Any talk about changes to the Medicaid can send a panic through those enrolled in Medicare because they think it applies to Medicare.
Those enrolled in Medicare paid for it through FICA deductions during their whole working career. While in Medicare you still pay for premiums and you need secondary insurance because Medicare only pays 80% of qualified medical expenses. Secondary insurance premiums are very high and they go up as you get older. Medicare doesn’t cover items like hearing aids which can be very expensive, and most older people need them. The Part D for prescription drugs can be close to worthless. GoodRx will frequency cost you less than using Part D.
On the other hand, Medicaid is a welfare program jointly administrated by the states and the federal government. In some states it can be quite generous covering most everything at no expense to the enrollees. People who never paid a dime of FICA tax can qualify including illegal aliens. Why do Americans have to provide free medical care to the world? Anyone that can jump the border.
I suspect Medicare and Medicaid have similar names by design to promote confusion.
Yes. Trump is actually a Democrat.
Beat me by ten minutes.
Not quite.
Medicare costs about $1 Trillion +/- ea.year The breakdown for total program revenue paid:
Payroll Taxes 36%
Premium paid 15%
Those are the two categories most folks believe pay for it. In fact, about 43% is paid be general Treasury revenues shifted to Medicare. That totals 94%. The next largest % comes from taxes on Social Security benefits.
While payroll tax do pay for the bulk of Part A expenses the fact is Part A is only about 44% ish of total Medicare program cost and payroll taxes pay basically zero on Part B and Part D both of which rely upon funds from general Treasury revenue for 72% of their funding.
Like Social Security retirement the Medicare trust fund will have been repaid, with interest, every $ borrowed in 2034 ish. It is projected to have current revenue from payroll tax and premiums to pay about 85% of current Medicare total expenditures.
There’s also no requirement to pay taxes to be eligible for Medicare (but you have to pay for it….still not near enough).
There’s also zero requirement to pay taxes to be eligible for the Social Security fund if you use the disability grift (which isn’t hard to find one by the time you reach retirement age).
Not really. There is a work history requirement of payroll taxes for 10 years to gain eligibility for Social Security and Medicare. SSDI also generally requires a 10 year work history though if younger than 31 the length of work history is prorated. To get Medicare from SSDI determination there’s also a universal 24 month ‘waiting period’ between grant of Disability determination and receiving Medicare eligibility. It is also possible to gain eligibility for Medicare from the eligibility of a Spouse.
IMO all Social Security/Medicare eligibility and the amount of payments should be solely based on individual eligibility and individual work history. If someone wants higher benefits they can get a job and grind for it.
Massey’s an antisemite who “cares more about the Palestinians”, but on the other hand he’s good on the budget.
So Trump shuts him down specifically on the budget?
Where’s DOGE anymore? Where are the DOGE spending cuts? Where’s the cutoff of funding for Dept. of Education and any other departments Trump wants to close?
If it’s not done this year it will never get done. That’s why Trump is in a hurry to jam his bill thru the House without including those things he ran on. Because he never actually wanted to do them.
agree on doge….wtf!!!?!?!?!!
but to say he never wanted to cut them…..dont agree
I just think he knows as we all do that politicking will win out unless you have a crushing majority in a motivated congress and a take no prisoners electorate that wont stand for a differing agenda
lefty and rinos have us sealed in and unless we outflank them (and thats what we hoped for with maga) it will just be the same old sh
any more movement to the left and its gonna be like a San fran /LA fault line
Making an observation that AIPAC is an effective and very powerful lobbying voice that works hard to deliver more US Gov’t support, funding and closer relations with Israel doesn’t make him antisemitic. Nor does his consistent position on ending ALL foreign aid to.EVERY Nation make him one.
No, neither of those two things make him an antisemite, but he’s said and done some other things that make me worry he might be.
In particular when he claimed that AIPAC “represents a foreign country”. That is an outright lie, and he knows it, and people generally tell it only if they are antisemites. It’s part of the whole “Jews are disloyal” thing.
Which bothers me because other than that he’s my favorite member of Congress.
It doesn’t seem too much of a stretch to claim that AIPAC is working for what their members and supporters view as the best interests of Israel. IMO it is disingenuous to claim that the goal of AIPAC isn’t to push Congressional and public support for policies that benefit Israel.
That said some I can be a Patriotic US Citizen and still support Israel and work to get the Gov’t of Israel and its people more favorable policies from the USA. The disloyalty due to religion claims are as stupid when deployed against Judaism as the are when deployed against Catholics or any other religion. One can definitely be a devout X and still be Patriotic Citizen just as one can be amidst or agnostic and be a Patriot.
I haven’t seen the other comments you refer to so I can’t address them. I would say that my ‘feel’ of Massie is that he doesn’t have hate in his heart for Jews. He is extremely critically of ALL foreign aid desiring to cut it from the budget and has been critical of the Israeli govt from time to time and I can see how combining that with his outspoken criticism (often seems like grudging admiration) of AIPAC could be taken together to form a negative opinion of him. Not saying that’s whay you did but I can see how someone on alert for antisemitism may view close enough as the real thing when there’s several close contacts. I prefer not to engage in ‘ists and isms’ accusations without smoking gun proof which is not often found. Maybe I’m too lenient in that respect but I try to apply that standard consistently to all.
I absolutely detest Medicaid
Trump is WRONG
This crap must stop and it’s only way to stop the insane aliens
Stop feeding them taxpayers money
it’s ours!!!
The Donald is no fiscal hawk. This budget is the same old same old. There are no real cuts, just some malarkey that averages out to maybe $50 billion a year, which does nothing. Medicaid is a giant scam. Most Americans don’t understand how much free stuff the dolesters get. In MA, the state, via MassHealth, used to pay (maybe still does) for taxi cabs from Boston to Cape Cod. Why would any provider do anything like that? A lot of this money comes from the feds. In his heart of hearts, I suspect Trump thinks America is going to produce its way out of the $37 trillion debt after he lures back the industry that went global. That’s not going to do the job. Spending must be cut–drastically. He should see the debt for the cancer it is and stop talking nonsense.
I have been openly critical towards Trump in areas I feel he is wrong and he deserves criticism (which is tariffs).
He is ABSOLUTELY right about this.
There is no way to break promises about Medicaid made by the Republican Party in the 2024 election and be even CLOSE to viable for 2026 and 2028.
The time to discuss if we reform medicaid was the primary of 2024. We picked Trump, Trump made the promise, this is THE issue people care about, and THE issue people will not forgive a betrayal on.
I am sorry did Trump stutter when you listened to his promise that he would not cut or tamper with medicaid and that his solution to the deficit was growing our way out of it?
Was he speaking in tongues when he said it? I thought he was speaking English and I understood every word.
Trump is absolutely right to demand the party in power keeps her promises.
This is an issue that involves electoral annihilation if the public does not think you are to be trusted on it.
Trump is sometimes right and sometimes wrong and I have never defended him when I thought he is wrong, he is absolutely right here.
Pretty sure he never promised not to go after fraud,.waste, abuse in Medicaid. Part of the abuse is lack of consistent enforcement of work requirements on able bodied Adults. We had them but they were suspended ‘temporarily’.
FWIW those work requirement are IN the bill but in out years starting in FY29. So the real question is not WHETHER to re-impose work requirements but WHEN. Many of us believe next year is appropriate. Personally I’d have them go into effect at the end of March next year. That gives States and beneficiaries more time to adjust with it occurring 180 days into the next Fiscal Year.
“The Democrats, left, and media have tried to claim that House Republicans will take an ax to Medicaid when all they did was tighten the requirements to avoid fraud.”
South Park mob: “They took rrrrrrr entitlements!“
The SALT deduction increase is getting to be ridiculous. Several GoP Reps from high tax States are holding the bill up to demand more concessions on raising the SALT deduction. Current limit is $10K. They got offered an increase to $30K and turned it down. This is current sticking point and I look forward to seeing the same sort of ‘be a team player’ criticisms about holding up the ‘big beautiful bill.